Last week, Major League Baseball presented a proposal on (some) core economics to the MLB Players Association. Among the features included in the league’s offer: the implementation of a draft for the acquisition of international amateur players.
The league’s interest in an international draft is nothing new. MLB pushed for its inclusion during negotiations on the 2016-21 collective bargaining agreement as well. The MLBPA didn’t agree to one during the last round of CBA talks, although the union did consent to a modification of the existing international signing period setup. In the last CBA, team spending pools allotted for international amateur signees were hard-capped. That proved a much tighter restriction than had been in place under the previous CBA, when teams could exceed their allotted bonus pools (and often did in dramatic fashion) so long as they were willing to accept spending limitations in each of the subsequent two seasons.
Thus far in CBA negotiations, the union has continued to propose alternatives to an international draft, report Maria Torres, Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic. However, as The Athletic covers in a lengthy and detailed piece, members of various constituencies — MLB, the MLBPA, player reps, buscones (essentially hybrid trainers/agents for Latin American amateurs), players and team officials — believe the process for acquiring amateur players from Latin America needs some form of adjustment.
Under the current system, amateur players not subject to the domestic draft (i.e. those outside the United States, Canada and Puerto Rico) are eligible to sign with clubs after they turn 16 years old. While players have to wait until that age to officially sign, however, it is common practice for teams to come to verbal agreements with prospects multiple years in advance as part of a race for talent that The Athletic writes has accelerated since the introduction of hard caps.
The league has pointed to a desire to stamp out such early agreements as justification for its desire for a draft. Those kinds of early deals can leave players out in the cold. Teams can agree to verbal deals with players that, when summed together, exceed the value of their allotted cap. With the rules prohibiting clubs from honoring all their commitments, the team may circle back to second or third tier prospects and require that they lower their bonus demand. The player often has little recourse but to do so. Unlike a domestic high school prospect, international signees don’t typically have a looming college commitment as negotiating leverage. And while they could try to shop their services to other teams, many clubs will already have verbally committed the entirety of their bonus pools to other players in the signing class.
That said, the union doesn’t seem to agree that an international draft is the optimal solution. Implementing a draft inherently removes the player’s flexibility to choose their first employer, an element which the union finds concerning. According to The Athletic, the MLBPA would prefer the league implement and stringently enforce a ban on verbal agreements with players below the age of 15. The union is also pursuing more flexibility for teams to roll over funds from their annual bonus pools, which isn’t permitted under the current system.
In addition to concerns about early agreements, The Athletic article raises myriad other problems with the current setup. Ulises Cabrera, a player representative with Octagon, claims to Torres and Rosenthal that some scouts have taken under-the-table payments from buscones to arrange deals with players from outside their assigned geographical purview. The piece also goes into detail about concerns including lesser pay for international prospects relative to domestic draftees of a similar caliber and eradicating performance-enhancing drug use. It is well worth reading in full for a picture of the numerous issues that need to be ironed out.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I think that an International Draft (or making it part of the existing draft) is a good idea.
But it seems like an issue that, if needed, could be dealt with apart from the CBA.
I think the CBA should increase player salaries as follows:
1+ days service time $700,000 per year (pro-rated for games played)
1+ years service time $800,000 per year (pro-rated for games played)
2+ years service time $900,000 per year (pro-rated for games played)
– Free agency occurs one year sooner for players
– Payroll floor minimum $80 million at least once every two years
– Payroll cap of $325 million
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Sabermetric Acolyte
If I remember correctly the last player’s proposal was something similar, arbitration after two years and free agency after five. The league responded by offering to remove service time altogether and set the age of 29.5 as when anyone can go to free agency.
So I’d say your proposals wouldn’t fly.
deweybelongsinthehall
Why shouldn’t there be restrictions on international drafts as long as a team is required to spend a specific amount of money each year on drafted prospects? Also why is a draft part of the CBA if drafted players don’t become members until they’re promoted to the majors? That said, my idea is have drafts based on age along with set spending amounts. If an athlete has less options, it’s part of any negotiations, in and out of sports.
Dustyslambchops23
I like it all minus the min and cap.
AlienBob
and 16 franchises just folded.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Bob:
Nope. In 2021, 25 out of 30 teams were already over $80 million. Due to pandemic, I am not using 2020 figures. In 2019, 26 out of 30 teams were already over $80 million.
Only four teams would be impacted by my floor:
Miami spent $75.6 and $58.2, so they would have had to spend $4.4 million more.
Pittsburgh spent $72.7 and $54.4, so they would have needed to spend $7.3 million more.
Tampa Bay spent $70.8 million and $64.2 million, so they would have had to spend $9.2 million more.
Baltimore spent $73.3 and $42.2, so they would need to have spent $6.7 million more.
And no teams would be impacted by my cap those years, not even close.
My floor is designed to prevent even more egregious owner dealings where they get increased equity due to the monopoly and rising numbers of narcissistic billionaires who want to own a sports team to feed their ego, but then decline to use their tv and internet revenue to field a good product.
You would just have to exceed the floor one out of every two years providing maximum flexibility to avoid a dollar for dollar tax.
And my cap is $54 million more than the Dodgers spent last year and $90 million more than the Mets presently have on the books for 2022. The reason for the cap is to eliminate draft pick compensation for free agents.
iverbure
I wish I could be as blissfully ignorant as manny.
Otis26
How about we just get on with turning into a Communist country and you can force them to do whatever you want – especially those pesky billionaires you seem to loathe.
AlienBob
The floor affects every franchise as none may cut payroll and go below it. That is a problem for all but those that are so rich they will never be in need of cutting payroll costs from the budget.
lucas0622
Personally I think that cap has to be wayyyyyy lower
phantomofdb
Hard caps don’t work. No need to have one at all
Salvi
MannyBeingMVP: Are you negotiating for the Union. Your proposals are huge advances for the players, yet concede nothing in return. Thats not how negotiations work.
Willy Smith
Just not on YT. Their announcers are sickening.
bigjonempire
I wish you were the commissioner!
elmedius
Sometimes it crosses my mind that If I had been good enough to ever merit draft consideration would I have resented international prospects who could sign younger and with the team of their choosing?
As it stands I’ve never had a dog in the fight and have always found the international signing period fun and exciting. It will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward.
DarkSide830
yep. any other system is an easy way to screw over these players. of course, the union doesnt care about them because they are non-members so they will likely get sold out here.
User 4245925809
No school required. Ran by buscones, which are leeches worse than agents like Boras ever were, or will be and have young teenagers practicing at sports instead of learning, knowing 90% will fail.
Draft is the logical and intelligent way to go about it for the good of all the young kids. MLB could take over for every team which has put in infrastructure in the 3rd world nations and still have a sports learning area, but add life in general, as in schooling as mandatory for all kids allowed to enter the facilities.
Teams themselves now who have 1-2 camps manage to afford these places, I say force every single franchise to pay an equal amount to send sports instructors and teachers to 1 camp and demand the union then give in to a draft for these IFA players, with the ones left not drafted at age 18 FA’s, like undrafted kids in the US.
Doing the right thing, getting rid of buscones and stop touching young teenagers is just wrong.
JoeBrady
as in schooling as mandatory for all kids allowed to enter the facilities.
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My understanding is that in the D.R., school is only compulsory thru age 14. Are you going to force a 15 y.o. to attend school simply because he is a good BB player?
Salvi
Are you going to force a 15 y.o. to attend school simply because he is a good BB player?
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If he comes to America to play BB—Yes. Is that a bad thing? He gets an education, whether tutor or school, while still getting $$. If baseball doesn’t pan out, he has a fallback.
DarkSide830
then you make it an option. making it forced is going to be questionable legally.
elmedius
Well, there’s plenty of other industries that haven’t had a problem instituting mandatory high school diplomas or GED equivalents for employment… so I’m sure that if they were really compelled to do so, they would figure something legal out.
Not saying they should or that it would be good for the game, but I think they wouldn’t have a problem doing it legally. Union agreement is a different story.
elmedius
Now here’s a question: who was the last American born player to not finish High School or get his GED and have a major league career?
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Ideas so good and fair you have to mandate them. No thanks comrade.
dmarcus15
High school grad would be Harper but he did get his GED.
elmedius
Yeah, Harper got his GED to enroll in college early to accelerate his draft eligibility.
He’s certainly an interesting “what if” had he been an international prospect. He was already well known at 16. What kind of record signing bonus would he have gotten and what team would he have chosen?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Not illegal if you are paying them. Lots of companies make their employees take classes.
Patrick OKennedy
There is much more to the history of this story. MLB offered the players getting rid of payment of compensation for free agent players who accepted a QO in exchange for an international draft, and players were ready to go for it. That is, until a substantial group of latin players lobbied hard, even going to the negotiating site and opposing the draft, which would have left these kids at the mercy of clubs with no real alternative but to take their offer.
So the deal was scrapped, but in it’s place they agreed to hard bonus limits for international players per team, with severe penalties if they go more than 5% over the caps. Teams used to blow past the limits under the old agreement, but no team has dared to go over under the recent CBA.
When Bud Selig left office, his greatest unfulfilled wish was to have an international draft. They even wrote the possibility into the last CBA under his reign, but the players never were able to extract enough quid pro quo to get it done.
It’s funny how the players, for once, actually showed some concern for amateur players. They throw minor leaguers and draftees under the bus regularly, in exchange for fattening their own wallets. Cut the draft from 40 rounds to 5? no problem. Sperad bonuses out over three years? Sure! Just give us a few bucks for major leaguers. But latin American players stepped up for amateurs when they saw something very wrong.
If there is an international draft, it should have bonus slots that MUST be offered to the players drafted. No screwing around with them after, leaving them no alternative but to sign.
Owners got the cost control they were seeking in the last CBA, but they’d still like an international draft. It’s a distant second to expanded playoffs, but it’s there, under the radar, as a concession that the players could offer. Under the bus you go, kids!
Dustyslambchops23
Very good information, nice post
BlueSkies_LA
One flaw in this plan is international amateur draft players would still have no real alternative but to sign, no matter where in the order they are drafted and according to whatever slot value is decided by MLB. Unlike U.S. amateurs they aren’t going to have the option of playing college ball and reentering the draft again later. For them it’s one and done. The other problem is the larger issue with the draft order that they can’t seem to settle for domestic players. Adding international players and the special issues they present to the mix isn’t going to make solving the larger problem any easier.
Best Screenname Ever
Nobody’s forcing anybody to sign, they have a 100% alternative.
The internet can start the ‘No Biz Sense Baseball League’ where you just pay however much the players want. I imagine it will be in business for about 3 seconds.
BlueSkies_LA
Sure, you can be forced to pursue some secondary ability or talent because the market for the one you are best at is completely controlled by a monopoly. Nice “no sense at all” plan.
Highest IQ
I’m gonna build a wall and keep them out.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Your desperate plea for attention is hereby noted.
Highest IQ
Your hatred for an intellectual such as me is hereby noted.
Salvi
So this is what a trolll account looks like.
Kayrall
Wouldn’t a draft dissuade teams from investing in international development facilities?
BlueSkies_LA
Good point. I imagine they would lose interest in running these camps, which is pretty much the only way kids learn to play in poor countries without organized youth baseball. MLB should offer to fund youth baseball programs unaffiliated with any team if they really want an international draft in those countries.
stymeedone
No, because having a facility provides more access to scouting the players. I would like the extra knowledge that a particular prospect takes instructions well, or refuses to, before drafting.
BlueSkies_LA
Somewhat but the point is if the teams want an international draft they should be willing to do more collectively (instead of individually) to support player development in those countries. MLB-operated youth programs and camps make a lot of sense, especially if they are supported at least in part by CBT money. All teams get equal access and the rich teams pay for most of the cost.
Appalachian_Outlaw
So this boils down to the owners saying we need you to agree to an International amateur draft in order for us to help police us from doing shady things?
The current system needs tweaks, but it’s mostly fine. Just institute a no contact rule on talking to players or setting agreements before the age of 15. If a scout or anyone violates it, permanent ban from the game. Clubs who go back on agreements forfeit 3 years of International signing ability completely.
JoeBrady
Clubs who go back on agreements forfeit 3 years
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These are unwritten agreements. You won’t have any proof that someone made an offer.
stymeedone
Its not the legal system. It would be an MLB investigation. The level of proof would not need to be absolute.
JoeBrady
Perhaps I am overly cynical, but it feels like everyone that didn’t get drafted would say that the team broke a verbal promise. I could easily see 100+ kids filing a claim.
gson
Unlike the domestic draft.. an International draft has some consideration to the youth of the draftees.. principly, these kids need more than a signing bonus if their lives are going to be adjusted for basebal.l.. this includes mandatory class room education, life experience teachings/learning, fiscal responsibility, etc.. etc.. almost to the point of the clubs drafting these kids becoming surrogate parental figures..with their families included to the extent that makes sense for THEIR culture..
It might add a nickel for each dollar these kids sign for.. but the value on the front end vastly improves the chances of these kids becoming as great as they can be.. with or without future careers in baseball..
Hello, Newman
That’s fine MLB. I’m going to be hitting the lakes and doing some more fishing.
CATS44
What about going to a single, universal draft? Throw all the kids into the same basket. Institute a bottom age limit of 17…and a minimum bonus for each draft position. Add a second draft in which players that aren’t chosen or who refuse offers can be drafted a second time…and the team that originally drafted them could not do it again. Thats some leverage right there.
The buscones are out of business. Kids without a college option still get paid relative to their draft position if they sign..and still have the option of turning down an unacceptable offer and reentering a second draft, say in October. No more under the table deals, no more verbal agreements.
nbresnak
On this issue, I 100% agree with the MLBPA! The Athletic article was an in depth explanation why this system is broken and the owners are the ones who are not following it by having to police themselves and breaking the rules that they set forward.
The players need to hold firm on their stance for this issue and I agree with their recommendations!
Best Screenname Ever
It’s Sidecar Max, come to join our thread.
Max, tell us again about your proposal to force rebuilding teams to sign players they don’t want just to artificially inflate salaries and how it’s for the ‘Good of the Game!’. We love hearing that one Max.
tigerdoc616
It is gong to be near impossible to clamp down on verbal agreements without a draft. My preference has always been for international players to have a process to declare for the our domestic draft once they turn 18. HS players have leverage because they can go to college. 3rd year college kids can go back for a 4th year.. Give international players the option of declining their offer and returning for the draft the following year. Also would need limits on the current slotting system to keep teams from low balling the international players. Would also add 5 rounds to the draft and the slotting system to accommodate the added talent in the draft.
It’s not a perfect solution, but the situation is far from perfect. But these kids do have options when a team does not come through and honor their verbal agreement. They are 16, they certainly can wait another year, continue to develop their skill set and sign again with another team the following year.
Salvi
‘Once they turn 18’ — I feel the same way, it seems like a logical age, and most career jobs in America start then. But, for these kids in Venezuela, Cuba etc., they need better coaching, conditioning and nutrition they sometimes can’t get in their own country. 16yo rule helps teams, but, it also benefits these kids.
JoeBrady
That was going to be my question as well. This isn’t the US where kids have well-funded HS’s, AAU, Cape Cod summer league etc.
The general trend I am reading in here is that buscones are evil. But if a player needs food, training, maybe a place to live, then whoever supplies that HAS to get paid. If anyone watched King Richard (highly recommended), the Williams sisters developed at a tennis academy at the age of ten. He didn’t do that for free.
We have camps for baseball, and they don’t do that for free either. Someone is going to get paid to develop these kids.
mike156
Quick macro observation on this. The more the teams are able to squeeze international prospects, regular draftees, minor leaguers, and early major leaguers, the more leverage the teams have in individual negotiations for cheap extensions for top tier talent. There just aren’t that many players who get such large bonuses (especially “net” after everyone takes their cut) that they can wait out the owners who control everything about their professional lives. And, when a team is penalized in international draft dollars for some infraction (or because they signed a QO FA and exceeded the CBT) that money also disappears from the amount available.
The owners are always looking to lower the floor…not just because it saves them money up front, but has the potential to save them more going forward.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
A draft would eliminate the corruption and exploitation that routinely occurs with young Latin ballplayers.
But, it would also help even the playing field between the small and big market teams, so…wouldn’t want that.
Best Screenname Ever
The union.
JoeBrady
A draft wouldn’t affect the fact that someone has to pay for developing these kids.
outinleftfield
It wouldn’t do any of those things. It would just limit opportunities for Latin American players.
angelscamp
Let’s just disband MLB, and start over with a less corrupt organization, something not at the beck and call of the owners.
JoeBrady
Yup, how dare the owners run their businesses?
BlueSkies_LA
How dare the fans have any opinions about them!
stymeedone
And why do they keep score?! That just makes one side feel like losers!
Airo13
The owners unanimously voted no on your proposal. Next.
NY_Yankee
Except for the fact Boras Corp is signing more and more guys from Latin America, I do not understand why the Players Association opposes a draft. The system right now discriminates against kids from America, Canada and Puerto Rico. How? Under IFA if you are from another country you can pick whatever team you want ( basically 30 options), while the option for the others is whatever team drafts you or college. Either have an IFA Draft or NO draft for anyone. That is the fairest solution.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I’m sure the Yankees would love to have no draft. Tons and tons of money, the history and panache – they’d always be loaded with top prospects as well as top FA’s. If you’re trying to make the league competitive, there needs to be a draft.
Mo R.
They have less to spend than several other teams in the current system and have a hard cap. Lower market clubs are given more money.
phillyphilly4133
This is where back room deals occur.
Dominguez, Arias and Mayea in the pit of the last four years.
Somebody’s palms were greased.
outinleftfield
The amount of money that foreign players can earn in terms of signing bonuses is extremely limited. In the Rule 4 amateur draft players can and do make over $6 million in the first round. Teams are limited to $6 million total for foreign players and there is a hard cap. In 2015 there were multiple players that signed for more than $6 million each in IFA. Teams cannot surpass their allotment. As we saw in Puerto Rico, once the system of buscones was broken up and the kids had no coaches and mentors to help them, few made it to the draft at all. There is no travel ball or high school ball or college ball where teams can go scout players in the DR or Venezuela like there is in the US.
phillyphilly4133
I don’t think a draft will stop this.
Buscones will still find players and deliver them to trainers.
The trainers will be incentivized to train better since a draft bonus will be dependent on their success.
It will be in nobody’s best interest to cut a deal early. Let’s use Vacquero as an example. Signed for 4.9. If a pre draft was in agreement with the Nats but they would be picking at 20
Then Vacquero and his trainer would lose out on a lot of money.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Just combine the int’l draft with the normal draft. Increase the pools, add another few rounds, and be done. There’s no reason it should be basically FA as it is right now. It’d give a team options as to timeline. A team like the D’backs that’s years from contending could target a bunch of kids from Cuba and the DR the first year or two, switch to US high schoolers for a year or two, then switch to college kids. All of them should come up at near the same time. If a team feels comfortable with Cuban players, like the White Sox do, they can spend their first seven picks on them if they want.
And please make draft picks tradeable. There’s absolutely no reason not to.
phillyphilly4133
The international trainers will not go for this. They will lose out on a ton of money.
Vaquero and Arias bonus money would fall between picks 9 and 14. Teams will not draft them at those picks. A number of these guys also signed in the 2 million dollar range. That puts them at the back end of 1st, CB, and early 2nd round value. The international guys will collectively fall way lower.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
International trainers don’t get a vote in this.
phillyphilly4133
you are right. Ben Badler mentioned on a podcast that everybody is on board with this. Owners, union and now the trainers. There will be no resistance on the international side to move forward with this.
seamaholic 2
I think if MLB is serious at all about competitive balance there has to be some kind of limitation or structure on Latin signings. The current system isn’t great, but it’s better than nothing and the last thing we need is a Wild West free-for-all, which would be dominated by a few teams from big coastal cities (because that’s where the best prospects want to go). Even the current system is leaning more and more that way each year. A draft creates a lot of questions. Obviously you have to include guaranteed bonuses if drafted (regardless of whether the team signs the player). I’d also like to see all players drafted but not signed immediately be placed in a follow-on draft with the same guaranteed bonuses. The draft should be short (couple rounds max) with leftover players free agents under a similar system to what we have today.
Then there’s the question of what order an international draft should have. Same as the domestic one? That’s a helluva incentive to tank, as you might end up with two of the best players in the world in one draft season. Or you could combine the two drafts into one, but then what to do with some players having guaranteed bonuses but others not?
It’s kind of a cluster.
outinleftfield
Key words about a draft in that article are the questions about, “how the league would implement such a process in Latin American countries that don’t have the same travel, high school and college baseball infrastructure that exists in the United States.” Go there. You will see kids playing sandlot ball with no shoes or in sandals. Most of those kids don’t go to high school at all unless they get into a baseball academy and they are professionals by the time they would be a junior in high school in the states. It would take MLB spending a huge amount of money to set up the infrastructure in places like the DR and Venezuela to allow a draft to happen. Just look at how the talent dried up out of Puerto Rico when they were added to the US amateur draft.
gbs42
MLB & MLBPA: “We already stuck it to these international kids by capping overall signing and bonuses per team. Now let’s screw them over again by limiting their negotiation power to only one team.”
phillyphilly4133
If a draft is implemented teams will have to sign a player for that assigned value.
Just like the MLB draft, picks come with a slot value. The MLB draft allows players to sign or go to college. The players have an option.
With the international draft teams will have to pay a guy his 2.5 mil slot value. Not 1.75 or 500,000. They must honor that slot value. The players have zero negotiating power at that age.
gbs42
The Rule 4 draft didn’t used to have slot values, so players could negotiate for as much as they could.
No international draft and no total pool amount would allow int’l players to negotiate with all 30 teams for as big a bonus as possible. Why is that a bad thing?
phillyphilly4133
Competitive balance.
If KC has the first international pick and does not want to sign an international player then they pass. Simple as that.
The key is to strike a balance between the current system and a new draft. Trainers want to make sure they get paid as well so they can continue their pipeline. Teams want access to players.
gbs42
If a team passed on the first pick in an international draft, that would be moronic and the complete opposite of any intent to improve competitive balance.
phillyphilly4133
I agree. I don’t think teams will pass on players, especially early on in a draft setting.
A draft setting offers competitive balance to all teams. They have the ability to draft guys and sign them to their respected slot value, No more or less.
A no capped system would only benefit teams with deeper pockets by outbidding lower budget teams. I think that is why they decided to go with a cap on international signing spending.
A draft setting helps all parties involved. Teams will have to ability to wait and see players develop as they mature. Plenty of development and maturity happen between 13/14 years old and 16. Players will not get screwed over when teams going back off on a last minute offer. Weeks before the signing perod starts teams will sometimes 1/2 their offer on a player leaving them scrambling around to find a last minute deal. For years a verbal deal was agreed upon. At this stage of free agency most of the money is already locked up in players. Trainers will still benefit by a draft as long as their players are selected. The higher they are selected the more they will get in return by the player.
A draft setting will limit teams from making back door deals to get the player they want.
gbs42
Considering how screwed up the draft is – and you make several good points in support of that – I can see the appeal of a draft. My reservation continues to be the slot values. With the Rule 4 draft, slotting slashed the amount the top draftees received. All it did was save teams money, which is not going to major league players.
If an international draft is implemented, I understand how hard slotting could avoid the situation where teams bypass players to avoid those wanting really high signing bonuses. But the end result almost certainly will be lower overall spending on international players, to the benefit of no one but owners.
To be clear, I’m not opposed to owners making money. I’m opposed to the system being refined over and over to artificially reduce their spending, doing little to help the game and serving primarily to further enrich the owners.
Mo R.
Look Athletic. The DPL wasn’t created to improve the evaluation process in the DR. It was a business model created to exploit the then-current system of international player acquisition and maximize and centralize market share of the total bonus dollars awarded to 16 yr old kids. It’s handled tens of millions of dollars in signing bonuses. They have partnered with dozens of trainers. I guess they are saying scouts are scheming with trainers, but none of their trainers are involved. Or they are, but they protect them. It’s convenient to say it’s unfair the best 16 yr old gets less than the best 18 yr old in the domestic draft, higher bonus payments mean higher agent payments. The younger the player, the more risk the club assumes. There are more opportunities, roster spots for international signs than there are for domestic HS signs.
phillyphilly4133
MLB will always protect the BRAND. If you ever watched the movey Screwball (the A-Rod roid movie) you will see how they (Manfred especially) were more concerned with covering it up than addressing the steroid issue.
The same is going on here. Everybody knows what is going on. Everybody. This isn’t a new issue. Maybe it is getting more press now but this has been going on for years and only getting worse because nothing is being done to stop it. Each year they take it an inch further. Then a little more. Then some more.
Trainers are essentially the middle men in all of this. They are brought these players from these third party handlers who usually get an under the table “discovery fee”. The trainers then get rewarded when the player signs. Sometimes a cut of the players future earnings. The players win out if they succeed.
This is no different than say a modeling agency. Young woman are trafficked in their minors to these so called “modeling agencies” with the promise to work. They are sort of held hostage by these agencies in housing and told when to work and who to work for. Some make it. Along the way the person discovering them gets a cut. The agency get a cut of earnings. Eventually the model gets paid.
We look the other way because it’s baseball.
No matter how you look at it it is exploitation.
Mo R.
The current system is not good. Everyone knows what they have to spend years in advance and to compete for elite talent you must engage at an early age. The only way to stop early deals is to institute a draft or let clubs bid on players on a certain date through MLB. A draft can work. If players are given a chance to negotiate and not given a ‘you’ll take what we give you or nothing’ option.
phillyphilly4133
I think the fairest way to handle this is to allow them to declare like those in the KBO and NPB. Then all of the teams have the ability to offer a contract. The player is a more finished product (vs agreeing to deals at 14) and they have some say in which team they want to go to.
The big concern for these players are the buscones. They are the ones who find the players and deliver them to camps and get compensation for them. They fall somewhere in between a finders fee and low level trafficking.
I have no idea how to stop this from occurring. There is too much money in it for the players, trainers and handlers. We are dealing with a third world country where everyone is out for themselves. The kids are pawns in this game.
JoeBrady
phillyphilly41331 hour ago
They fall somewhere in between a finders fee and low level trafficking.
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That’s the way I see it. You need someone to scout the players. We do the same thing. You need someone to train the players. We do the same thing. The system probably works fine, so long as whatever people get for their work is reasonable.