The Padres, eyeing upgrades in their bullpen, are in talks with a pair of somewhat under-the-radar options on the free-agent market. FanSided’s Robert Murray tweets that San Diego is in talks with righty Luis Garcia, while The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reports (also via Twitter) that the Friars are in serious discussions with right-hander Robert Suarez.
Garcia, 35 in January, had a resurgent with the Cardinals after joining the organization on a minor league deal over the summer. Through 33 1/3 innings, the former Phillies, Rangers and Angels hurler worked to a 3.24 ERA with a strong strikeout (25.2%), walk (5.9%) and ground-ball rates (45.7%) while quickly working his way up the ladder into high-leverage situations (11 holds, two saves).
While Garcia has had his share of success in the past, the 2021 version of the right-hander was the best yet. His 98.7 mph average fastball was a career-best, as were his 14.9% swinging-strike rate and that 25.2% strikeout rate. It’s still worth pointing out, however, that Garcia’s longstanding troubles against left-handed batters were as pronounced as ever in 2021. He overwhelmed opposing righties, holding them to a putrid .152/.190/.177 batting line in 84 plate appearances. However, lefties teed off at a .289/.353/.511 clip in 54 trips to the plate and tagged him for the only two long balls he yielded.
Suarez, 31 in March, is perhaps an unknown to many readers but is squarely on the radar of Major League clubs this winter. The Venezuelan-born righty has never pitched in the Majors but has spent several years in Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball, splitting his time between the SoftBank Hawks (2016-19) and the Hanshin Tigers (2020-21). The righty has an outstanding track record in general but enjoyed a dominant campaign in 2021, pitching to a 1.16 ERA with a 25.3% strikeout rate and a microscopic 3.5% walk rate with 42 saves in 62 1/3 frames.
fred-3
Preller’s problem is that he always buys high on players. Garcia probably shouldn’t cost much, but I don’t expect him to repeat his season last year.
J0sh
Dude, that’s called paying your workers/players fairly. Other players are and should be taking notes of this as SD being a good/fair destination
DarkSide830
not paying for past performance isnt being unfair, it’s being realistic.
GareBear
That’s not how that works
darkstar61
It’s a foolish, unsustainable plan
Yearly raises to players means you can’t keep them all while you’re also overpaying for the declining years of players you previously splurged on
It cuts your possible contention window by years and ensures retooling to rebuilding is inevitable much faster than it should be.
Plus, it rarely ever results in your team being better in the short term either
Brew’88
The Tatis contract is looking like a bargain after Seager/Scherzer contracts this week
SDHotDawg
Don’t forget Semien. A 31-year old SS given a 7 year deal for (iirc) around $180 Million. Wow.
Pads Fans
Thanks for the good laugh @dark Revenue is going up so of course they can afford to pay raises.
padresfan111323
No he’s got a point. They bought high on Darvish, Machado, Hosmer, Nola, Frazier, Myers, and probably a bunch more players that I’m missing. Apart from Machado and maybe Darvish, they’ve regretted all of those moves. The idea is to underpay for undervalued players, not overpay for overvalued players. Anyone can spend money. Excecutive make their money from finding hidden gems and turning them into good players.
ganondenorfia
like Cronenworth?
CrikesAlready
Profar, you forgot Preller buying high on Profar! 🙂
Oh, and Shields, Kemp, Headley and Mitchell too.
Weren’t Josh Johnson and Carter Capps signings too?
Brew’88
In all fairness, for every overpay, you can also cite RPs Preller has picked up cheaply…only to see them move on (outpricing themselves as Padres) after performing so well with Padres. Brad Hand, Kirby Yates, Trevor Rosenthal. If the Pads are good at one thing, it’s building a RP staff, and that trend actually pre-dates Preller
SDHotDawg
Rosenthal was already an experienced closer.
Brew’88
sure but my point is that they didn’t overpay to get Trevor
Brew’88
Sure, but they didn’t overpay to bring him in and didn’t want to overpay to keep him
SDHotDawg
Got it. He signed a low money one year deal to prove himself. He was a steal.
Deadguy
Garcia will fall apart under the coaching and leadership of San Diego. His control issues will resurface possibly derailing the career he just got started. Hope to see him re sign with the Cardinals.
Deleted Userr
We can only hope and pray that Ruben Niebla has something to say about that.
Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid
All the Luis Garcias should play on the same team. Would make for a great lineup card.
Ron Tingley
You know you have a shot at getting a cup of coffee if your last name is Garcia in general.. there’s been a baseball team of them
baseballpun
Surprised St. Louis hasn’t already signed Garcia. They expressed interest in retaining him.
Win Cor
I wonder what’s going on there. Maybe Garcia is cashing in…
mrperkins
I wouldn’t have minded a quick re-signing after the season for 2-2.5 mil. But it is crazy to start a bidding war over this guy. Besides, he is due for a bad year. Let someone else dole out 3-4 mil. Sure 3 mill doesn’t break the bank but it is the difference between Steven Matz (11 mil) and some of these guys like Heaney and Cobb (8 mil)
baseballpun
I agree. I assume Garcia’s price is going to be high, otherwise he’d already be back on the STL roste.
Best Screenname Ever
Instead of Luis Garcia and Robert Suarez, Padres should recruit ex-Barca footballer Luis Suarez, who bites other players. lt would bring something new to the field instead of what Garcia and Robert bring.
youtube.com/watch?v=Uy31pdfntUw
DarkSide830
They can also see if the LA Kings are interested in dealing Brendan Lemieux. Same skillset as Luis.
Pads Fans
Preller’s big moves so far are to move an All Star for 2 suspects and to look at mediocre relievers.
beersy
Maybe not “winning the off season” would be a good thing for the Padres.
baseballpun
It’s not like they’re going to win anything else.
Deleted Userr
Has a team ever “won the offseason” and that translated to the regular/postseason?
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Pierce Johnson has worked out well for them since coming back to the states.
SDHotDawg
OK, Johnson makes ONE. If he could scout and evaluate pitching talent, he wouldn’t have to keep throwing spaghetti at the wall. That’s been his M.O. from Day One.
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
So you’re upset Preller is looking at low cost additions to squeeze value out of? Seems stupid to be upset at your team trying to improve. You can never have enough pitching. Injuries always happen.
Brew’88
Hotdog isn’t a Padre fan
SDHotDawg
No, Brewer. I’m just not a low baseball IQ uber-homer wearing blinders. It’s called objective reality.
Brew’88
Fair enough, then use some of that IQ and not jump to conclusions that “your team” is going to do nothing to address needs this off-season. Be patient.
SDHotDawg
@Brewer … I don’t have a crystal ball. If/when those needs are addressed … until then, I’ll stay with “today.”
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Objectively speaking, low cost bullpen additions have seemed to favor Preller more than big free agent signings
Stammen, Johnson, Crismatt last year were some of the stalwarts of that pen. All low cost additions.
Being a Rockies fan you tend to familiarize yourself with other teams players through the years. Preller seems to finds low profile guys that contribute
Ryan Buchter was another one.
Pads Fans
How is the subtraction of an All Star and looking at mediocre relievers improving the team?
Deleted Userr
@Pads Fans How isn’t it? You’re the one that wanted Frazier gone. One or both of those two scrubs they got for him can be traded elsewhere to till a need now. The problem is Marcano has more trade value than the two of them combined.
SDHotDawg
Preller is a disaster at roster building. He’s going after more mediocre relievers that will “maybe” be one-inning guys, and he’s ignoring the more pressing needs of starting pitching depth and an empty outfield.
thejedisloth
You might want to take a look at the depth chart for the Padres again. The rotation is fixed: Darvish, Musgrove, Snell, Clevenger, Paddack. The outfield is far from empty with Grisham in center and Myers in right. They do need an option in left, but that is far from a difficult spot to fill on a roster. Right now the biggest need for the roster is to fill out the bullpen.
SDHotDawg
Actually, YOU might want to take a look at it. Obviously, you haven’t been paying attention. The “need” to sign Arrieta and Vasquez, and bringing up a far from ready Knehrshould tell you all you need to know.
By including Clevinger and Paddack in your “fixed” rotation, I can see you’re one of those blind uber-homers with no sense of reality. Clevinger is coming off his SECOND TJ, and is an unkown. Paddack has been terribly inconsistent since the end of 2019, and had to get PRP injections at the end of last year. When is the last time Darvish had an injury-free year?
So, do you really want to make an argument that our rotation is “fixed?” And if you try to argue we have depth, prepare to be embarrassed, because we have none.
Brew’88
I actually agree with you (this time) Dawg. SP (depth, insurance) is number 1 need for Pads. But they also need other pieces, including some depth in RP (and maybe a closer), plus a corner OF
SDHotDawg
@Brewer … Yes, a corner OF is also a huge need. Relatively speaking, middle relievers are a dime a dozen. And closer is a big question mark, too. A lot of people are thinking Pomeranz, but his recent injury history says otherwise.
Brew’88
I wonder how much team is figuring in Weathers, Lamet, Wingenter for RP help next year,
SDHotDawg
Good question.
Weathers needs to go to the minors to finish developing. By all rights he should have been in the minors last year. But there was that pesky depth thing.
Wingenter is kind of a “who knows?” guy. He could be anything from star to stink. But, he’s coming off of TJ.
Lamet needs to be in the rotation. That’s his strength. For over a year, he’s been trying to avoid his second TJ, and it hasn’t helped him or the team. Either he’s healthy enough to pitch, or he’s not. He and the team need to make a decision.
2021 great year to be a Padres fan
Yeah. Great point. I was so excited in 2020 to see what Lamet is capable of doing, and hopefully he can Stay healthy in 2020. But at 4.6 Million aprox this year and another year of arbitration in 2023, a second Tommy John would wipe him out until free agency, it’s a tough reality that another Injury filled year can have such a big impact on his future with the padres, that are already walking on thin ice with clevinger, Paddack, Darvish, Morejón, Báez and castillo, Strahm, Pomeranz!!!!
thejedisloth
Ok, so I take it you do not understand what fixed means. Fixed means set. As in those spots are filled. Not fixed as in improved. I don’t even know why I am responding to some an immature, and insulting response.
SDHotDawg
I still wouldn’t call it “set” for the previously stated reasons.
Pads Fans
You may want to take a look at the guys on that depth chart again.
Clevinger will definitely not be the Sunshine of old. He just had his 2nd TJ surgery who will be making his first starts back in 2022, so he is 100% guaranteed to be a mediocre starter that makes maybe 15-20 starts. Optimistic projections are a 4.20 ERA and 120 IP. He might someday be as good as he was before, but 2022 is not the year you will see that kind of performance.
Paddack is injured and its not at all out of the question that he needs to have his 2nd TJ surgery. He was a 5 ERA starter last season and has put up 4.21 ERA for his career. Not helping much.
4.22 ERA and 4.20 ERA. That sounds like a 4th or 5th starter on a playoff team to me. That is Darvish and Snell. Neither can be counted on to stay healthy either.
As a Padres fan I am not going to be very happy if that is the opening day rotation because its not one that can win a championship. In fact, that same rotation is the biggest reason the Padres missed the playoffs last season.
Right now the only things Preller needs to be focused on is getting a TOR starter and a LF. After that if he can pick up some cheap relievers then so be it. With all the guys returning from injuries the Padres really have no need for relievers.
Pads Fans
Lamet is a non-tender candidate. We will find out tonight if the Padres are willing to go to arbitration with him. Weathers might be a good choice as a long man out of the pen. A healthy Wingenter would be a major reason that the Padres would not be looking at relievers in the FA market
Pads Fans
The point is those spots are NOT filled. At all. Only Musgrove is fixed or set in that rotation. Which is exactly why the Padres must sign or trade for a starter.
Deleted_User
@Pads Fans I thought you said we would get Sean Manaea for Adam Frazier!?!?!?!?
Brew’88
Moving Frazier and his 280/5 Hr/5 SB career stats was necessary given the 427,000 other 2b they have locked up in contracts
darkstar61
You’re mad that they traded a turning 30 Adam Frazier, who has 1 above average season for his entire career, was pretty worthless after going to the Padres, and didn’t have a clear spot on the roster for 22?
Why would you be mad at that?
SDHotDawg
You really should take another look at Frazier’s numbers. The mistake was Preller’s. He stupidly traded for an infielder we didn’t need. Had he used him exclusively in LF, it would have made more sense. But don’t knock Frazier.
Brew’88
I actually like Frazier, but he has no place on crowded (committed) Padres infield roster and certainly does not have the bat to occupy a corner OF spot. Preller picked him up last year during time when Tatis season was in jeopardy. It turned out the need wasn’t there and I hope he thrives in Seattle..
darkstar61
The reply was to PadsFans
He seems to be upset the team traded away a player thats never been that good, didn’t hit after the trade to SD, and has no spot on the club.
SDHotDawg
Frazier’s “never been that good?” Get real. The Mariner’s got a steal due to a bad Preller trade.
darkstar61
He has 1 season with a fWAR above 2.2. bWAR is a little more generous putting 2 previous years in the 2.5 range. 2.0 is average.
At 30 years old, with only 1 to 2 decent seasons over your entire career before a fluke half season as a 29 year old… yes, you’ve never been that good
Then at this point he’s just a light hitting, light patience, versatile but not great fielding, some speed but poor baserunning, aging player set to make more than 7 million.
Really, what exactly is the draw here?
ayrbhoy
There are good points being made by both sides here- this is not a ‘black and white’ scenario. It is a little more complex.
The Padres farm system needs restocking and the ML roster, the BP in particular, needs depth. The Padres are in a win-now mode so it’s vital to have depth in your Org to deal with the multitude of injuries that come in a 162g season. No-one knows that more than a Friars fan.
Although Adam Frazier is an established (contact) hitter and a GG Top 3 Finalist in back-to-back seasons he is only under control for 1 season. The return on the Frazier trade filled both the needs I listed by sending a player who most likely wouldn’t play everyday. Lefty RP’s who throw 100 do not grow on trees- Seattle gave away a valuable commodity.
Now, the Matt Brash trade? That’s a different story, that is def looking like a steal for the Mariners. Of course, I am biased here, being a Seattle fan. Fact is, Brash has yet to throw one pitch in the Majors, but what a year he had last yr! It’s a pity he didn’t actually get to pitch after his promotion to the big leagues.
SDHotDawg
Did you look at anything besides that pseudo-stat WAR? Because everything else you said is demonstrably false.
Light hitting? Only if you think every player in baseball should crank out 25+ HRs. I’ll take a career .280-ish hitter in my lineup every day.
His defense is also well above average. Versatile? His only other position is LF.
5th in the NL in hits, 5th in doubles, 6th in triples
Light patience? You can’t be serious. He doesn’t strike out and he takes walks. I’ll take a .368 OBP all day.
You really haven’t thought this through. You must be one of those guys that feels the need to trash any player Preller trades off the team just to convince youself it was a good move.
The only thing wrong with Frazier is that Preller traded for him. The last thing we needed was another second baseman.
SDHotDawg
@Ayrbhoy … I’ve just grown really tired of listening to my fellow fans bash every Padre player that gets traded. It’s like some uber-homer psychological defense mechanism. It doesn’t make any sense that they can’t seem to appreciate even good players. Now, if they want to bash somebody like Jose Pirela, I’m all in.
And, btw, that lefty reliver is a 27-year old with 13 total innings above AA.
Deleted_User
Pads Fans said we would get Sean Manaea for Adam Frazier lol
Deleted_User
The issue I have with trading Frazier is they just bought him at peak value FOUR MONTHS AGO. Prospects are volatile so it is entirely possible that one (or even both) of the guys they got end up having better careers than Tucu Marcano, but it isn’t a LIKELY outcome. Ex ante, Preller definitely lost value between the two Frazier trades. And nothing other than that was EVER going to happen. Guys in the middle of career years with only one year of arb left’s trade values don’t go up. They go down.
darkstar61
Oh my lord…
He’s a career 132 ISO hitter. Last year it was 103. Last year the MLB average was 167, with a high average of 187 over his career and never lower than 161. His “power” places him between Ben Gamel and Tucker Barnhart since 2016, with him landing at the 62nd lowest of 362 hitters with 1k+ PA
Yes, he’s a weak hitter. He gets by by trying to make contact with everything and hoping he can leg it out. At younger ages that can work a little, at advanced ages it’s usually disaster
And hes a career +5 OAA fielder at 2B. Yes, it fluked high in recent seasons. No, he was a -2 in his time in Pittsburgh in 2021 before it going the other way over 2 months in SD. He’s not a great fielder
Playing either Middle Infield or a Corner OF spot makes you versatile, yes
Yes, little patience. He has walked at just a 7.4% over his career, 7.5% last season. League average has been between 8.5-9.2% over his career
You really haven’t thought this through, and clearly know absolutely nothing at all about stats.
And trading for him when you had lost your star middle infielder was not the problem. Not recognizing he was having a fluke season and the pathetic .267/.327/.335 line he held in SD was inevitable was the problem. Anyone with half a brain knew he’d tank in the second half (as this very website even predicted when announcing the trade)
Of course, you somehow think the thing the Padres did wrong was not play the pathetic .267/.327/.335 hitting guy in Left Field, where he is a poor fielder …you seem mad at the Padres that they managed to get any value out of his otherwise worthless play for your team
And now you’re mad he’s someone else’s problem while you somehow got actual value for him in return?
Deleted_User
@darkstar61 Trading for him at all was pointless. They did not get back the same value they gave up to get him.
darkstar61
Absolutely. As I clearly stated, they traded for him when he was obviously fluking, and there was very little to no chance it was going to continue. He was clearly going to hit poorly in the 2nd half
He wasnt worth trading for then, and the Padres got such little production from him over his time
But in trading him now at least they are recuperate some of that value. They’re lucky they found notoriously easy to dupe DiPoto to give something of value up
Deleted_User
But of less value than what they gave up in the first place.
SDHotDawg
ISO? What a joke. That only measures power numbers. You’re fixated on it. You do understand that not all good players are power hitters, right? Well, probably not as that would require some knowledge of the game.
Dude, I know plenty about stats and the math they use to compute them. In fact, math background is exactly why I don’t take many of them seriously. Especially WAR. And don’t even get me started on defensive metrics. Even FanGraphs admits they have issues. But, since you insist, +16 DRS at second.
Funny how you only want to use the small sample size of his Padre time to bash him. Well, not really. I expect that garbage from some people.
Stop hating on the guy. He’s good.
SDHotDawg
@remove … Exactly. It was “pointless,” and I said that from the beginning. The last thing we needed was another second baseman. It would have only made sense (some) had they played him mostly in LF.
Brew’88
The Frazier deal was dumb, even when justified at the time as insurance for the injured Tatis. Just when the team desperately needed SP help they grab yet another 2b.
But that’s in the past now. Call it a mistake, and move on. Getting rid of Frazier, who deserves to play and not as backup to Cron, was necessary. At this point it’s good for Frazier and good for the Padres. Should they have gotten more? I doubt it. Ever team in the league knew they wanted to dump some salary. I do think Kerr fills a need in 22, they need another L arm to back up Tim Hill. So at least they got something in return for the mistake.
Brew’88
@ Remove. Yes, dumb acquisition for a ho-hum hitter that didn’t fill a need and who they would never get more in return for. I said that when the deal was made right here in MLBTR. It might end up being Preller’s worst trade, assuming Marcano has eventual value.
But, at some point move on to 2022. Let’s hope for a better season with fewer injuries and better coaching and maybe some positive surprises from upcoming prospects.
Deleted_User
@Brewer88 No. Not the worst trade. Kemp, Myers and Justin Upton were WAY worse. Tucu Marcano is probably overrated. But Adam Frazier is not and was never a guy you trade for to flip later on. He is/was a guy you trade for to USE. And the Tatis injury excuse doesn’t really work considering the Padres already had an elite defensive SS in Ha-Seong Kim (who by the way needs to play shortstop ONLY on the days he is playing).
Pads Fans
@dark Improving the team is not trading away an All Star for suspects then looking at mediocre relievers. Neither of those things improves the team. Packaging Frazier to get a TOR starter would have.
The Padres NEED two things.
A consistent, 30+ start, 3.50 ERA or lower STARTER.
A LF with power.
That is it.
They could also probably use a closer, but they have been really good at developing closers so not as big of a need.
Middle relievers are a dime a dozen. If it was a closer they were looking at I would be cheering the move. But two guys that are not better than what is already on the squad? One who is a complete unknown against top level players? WTF?
Brew’88
@ Pads Fan. I’m more concerned about their closer question than most I think. I keep hearing rumbles of going with Pom or (dread) Pagan, or both in committee. That won’t work! The FA market for a closer is fundamentally risky. They have an amazing track record of developing closers (Hand, Yates, etc…) but I don’t see that guy in the wings now. To have a quality closer by April, trade seems likely, but for who? Preller has some work to do.
SDHotDawg
And who are you willing to give up for a proven closer? Again, this points to poor and short-sighted roster management.
Right now, we don’t have anyone I’d call a closer.
Brew’88
Ok Remove, you got me there, those other trades definitely had greater negative consequence. But I just REALLY didn’t like the Frazier deal and not because of Frazier per se, but because it seemed so diametrically opposed to the need at the time. They needed SP, and within 24 hours of that trade Paddack also went down, further twisting the knife in Preller’s move and securing the season-ending downward spiral for the entire team.
Pads Fans
If he was a valuable commodity then he would be listed on some prospect list somewhere. What he is, is an older non-prospect. A suspect. They are hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, but he is not good or he would have been in the majors before 27.
The other guy hit in low A ball but was so poorly thought of in the draft that he went in the 12th round. I can count on the fingers the number of guys that made the majors as a position player this decade that were that low of lower in the draft.
Deleted Userr
Adam. Frazier is a 2-WAR type player (which is plenty valuable in and of itself) who came out of nowhere to post 3 WAR in 60% of a season in 2021 and had less than 2 years of club control yet which, to me, is the point where the thought of losing the guy to free agency becomes a legitimate concern. Players like that don’t gain trade value.
SDHotDawg
There was even some grumbling in the clubhouse about Preller not acquiring a SP at the deadline. And that was our #1 need.
Deleted Userr
@SDHotDawg I wanted them to go after Jon Gray. Although he admittedly tanked down the stretch.
Dodgers look pretty stupid right now for not making the Scherzer trade contingent on an extension.
SDHotDawg
Gray would have been good. Preller’s problem is made worse when you see that other teams (especially the Cards) were able to plug their pitching holes by the deadline.
Brew’88
LA’s real target in the Scherzer trade was Turner…they knew where Seager was going
Deleted Userr
If Turner was the real target Scherzer wouldn’t have been acquired at all. And I doubt whether a shortstop who pouts when asked to play a different position was the “real target” when LA already had one of those.
Brew’88
Scherzer was a late season rental that didnt pay off. Turner is a perennial MVP candidate, who cares if he prefers a position? Still, LA gave up the homegrowns for him, I guess that’s their new style.
SDHotDawg
“… a shortstop who pouts when asked to play a different position.” For a second, I thought you were talking about Tatis.
Deleted_User
@SDHotDawg That description works for a lot of players.
SDHotDawg
Not many of them do it publicly or show it on the field. It’s called “professionalism.”
2021 great year to be a Padres fan
It’s early , Preller is waiting for tthe new Cba agreement to see how much Money he can spend, My opinion is he’s gonna make 2 significant moves, one a top starting pitcher but vía trade, not FA. The other is an outfielder with power.
SDHotDawg
@2021 … I hope you’re right. But we’re going to need more than one SP. We don’t even have any minor league depth that’s ML-ready.
2021 great year to be a Padres fan
Correct. Its hard to forget this 2021 season. The way it started was pretty fun, until august and September when it became evident they went from 5 starters to 2, man that was rough. Anyways some guys like Adrián Martinez, Efrain Contreras, knerr, Lamet, could all contribute, maybe, just maybe. For guys like mckenzie Gore and weathers they need more time!!! Gotta give Niebla some time to work with the pitchers
Brew’88
Some would say they went from 7 starters to 1, with Morejon, Paddack, Snell, Lamet, Darvish and Weathers all suffering degrees of various ailments. Toss in Clevenger and this next season’s rotation is a big If on the health front. If they pick up 2 legit SPs (instead of 1 or none) this offseason it will tell you a lot about what the team thinks of the health of those 7 guys.
SDHotDawg
It was long before August. We were having bullpen games in the third week of April.
Brew’88
@ 2021, agree with your opinion, hope that’s what happens. They might resign Pham but I hope they still add another OF bat. I wonder if they go for Suzuki?
Pads Fans
Preller just traded his only real trading chip to Seattle. Who exactly will he trade?
Deleted Userr
@Pads Fans I thought you said the Padres were going to trade Adam Frazier straight up for Sean Manaea????
Deleted Userr
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Pads Fans
When did I say that?
Deleted Userr
On Friarhood
facebook.com/groups/253857891296/posts/10158162885…
Brew’88
Good question, not a lot of tradeable assets without dipping into the minors, or sending cash. The reported interest in Alfaro makes me wonder if Campusano is becoming a chip. Hope not..
PadreFan19
Honestly why not. The pen needs some fixing, he’d make a great addition.
SDHotDawg
Seriously? Of all the holes that need filling, mediocre one inning middle relievers are the lowest priority.
DarkSide830
teams that have multiple holes need to fill as many as possible. you dont just fill the biggest one and call it an offseason.
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Off season is still young. For all we know Preller could be looking at Seiya for the OF or finally see Jorge Ona get a full time shot. I was hoping the Rockies would have signed Ona. With the looming CBA agreement a lot of teams seem ready to resume filling out rosters once its resolved.
Deleted Userr
@ 1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th Jorge Oña was just DFA’d
SDHotDawg
Actually, nobody claimed him. He was outrighted to El Paso.
Deleted Userr
@SDHotDawg Correct. The fact that they DFA’d him in the first place means he’s on the outside looking in.
Pads Fans
Ona was outrighted off the 40 man. Seiya would be great. He fills a position of need. Most teams have been signing like a drunkin sailor at a bar the day before they deploy.
SDHotDawg
Considering our need for outfielders and lack of organizational depth, he must have really fallen off the rails.
towinagain
Starters needed.
Brew’88
Agree a SP is needed. Maybe a corner OF too. Those moves will likely come via a trade rather FA. There is some wisdom in waiting for CB/lockout before making trades though. Specific needs will emerge as negotiations evolve. For example, Pads might try to sign Cruz is DH comes.
Note the Dodgers and Giants have not been very active yet either…but that will come with CB/lockout clarity
Pads Fans
Padres have no one to trade. Preller just traded his best chip for two suspects.
SDHotDawg
And people still question my disdain for Preller.
Brew’88
I commented on this above, and clearly this is an problem Preller has created for himself (along with unfortunate injuries). Perhaps Paddack, Weathers, Morejon, Campusano are trade options. Not good ones, but options. More likely they send cash and lower prospects. I’m guessing they dn’t make a splashy move, but they need a mid-tier SP. They may resign Strip-joint LFer on the cheap or use Lamet $ in FA as well. We’ll find out tonight maybe
Deleted Userr
@Pads Fans He wouldn’t have gotten more if he could have.
SDHotDawg
Are you sure? The last 7 years have indicated that Preller isn’t a very good negotiator.
Deleted Userr
would* have gotten more if he could have. Big oof.
msqboxer
Seems like the 35 yr old resurgent right handed reliever who had 20 of his appearances against teams like the Cubs/Cincy/Pitts and Det shouldn’t cost more than his union minimum.
gavilan
Left fielder need it, Kyle Schwarber. 4 years for 70 MM.
snakqadj
Im praying cardinals resign Luis Garcia
Bart Harley Jarvis
Word of caution, avoid this Luis Garcia during even numbered years.
roman411
Could be worse…they could bring in Luis Suarez. That trade would totally bite.