10:08am: The Phillies have had recent talks with Castellanos, tweets MLB.com’s Jon Morosi. As he points out, Philadelphia president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski was GM in Detroit when the Tigers selected Castellanos with the No. 44 overall draft pick.
7:36am: As a strong season for Nick Castellanos progressed in Cincinnati, it became increasingly obvious that the slugger would opt out of the remaining two years and $34MM on his contract in favor of a return to the free-agent market. Castellanos, however, is perhaps seeking an even larger payday than most would expect; MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand tweets that Castellanos and agent Scott Boras are eyeing a contract of seven or even eight years in length. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman tweeted this morning that the Marlins still have interest in Castellanos even after landing Avisail Garcia, though Feinsand suggests Castellanos’ asking price is too rich for Miami’s liking.
The 29-year-old Castellanos (30 in March) posted a huge .309/.362/.576 slash with 34 home runs, 38 doubles, a triple and three steals through 585 plate appearances this past season. Castellanos briefly missed time due to a microfracture in his wrist, but he shook off the rust almost immediately upon returning and closed out the year on a .294/.335/.606 heater through the final six weeks or so of play (176 plate appearances).
Excellent as Castellanos is and has been at the plate, seven and eight years are stills jarring numbers. Castellanos’ glovework has been consistently panned by defensive metrics — both at his original position (third base) and since moving to right field on a full-time basis in 2018. The 2021 season was no exception, as virtually any metric (-7 Defensive Runs Saved, -1.9 Ultimate Zone Rating, -7 Outs Above Average) framed Castellanos as a liability in right. He also rejected a qualifying offer from the Reds, meaning any team that signs him will be subject to draft-pick forfeiture.
To his credit, Castellanos is far from a one-year wonder — even if the 2021 season was his most productive to date. While a poor three-week finish in the shortened 2020 season tanked his season numbers, he still finished with league-average output, per both wRC+ and OPS+, and he’s been consistently strong at the dish outside that season. Both wRC+ and OPS+ suggest Castellanos has been about 22 percent better than the league-average hitter dating all the way back to 2016, and his bat truly soared to new heights upon being traded from the Tigers to Cubs. Even when including that average 2020 output, Castellanos carries a .292/.346/.571 batting line (134 wRC+) through 1052 plate appearances since leaving Detroit.
It’s commonplace for agents to aim for the moon in free agency, and while it can oftentimes burn a player, there are also deals of surprising magnitude each winter. (Few would’ve expected Marcus Semien to command a seven-year deal this winter, for instance.) It’d be a surprise to see Castellanos command such a weighty commitment, but he’s arguably the best bat available in free agency this offseason and would clearly benefit from the widely expected advent of the universal designated hitter.
Smoking something strong there nicholas
Greedy DH
Yeah, he’s one of the worst RFer’s in the game. And Cinn is a band box inflating his numbers. Buyer beware.
The guy can flat out hit.
the guy wants to play into his late 30s. what is greedy about that? would be very surprised, though, if he gets more than 5
This just a typical negotiating tactic. Boras does it a lot and it’s pretty smart. They know he will never get an 8 year deal and he probably won’t even get 7. Start the negotiations asking for the moon so the end result is higher. The end result is some team will be convinced they got a bargain by getting Castellanos to “settle” for a 6 year deal when Casty knows 6 years is probably the best he could ever hope for. This probably means he’s going to wait out the market and won’t sign anywhere until February.
I think it’s going to be a long wait for Freeman too. The Braves know he will sign for slightly less than top offer and doubt anyone will offer more than the 6/200 he is asking for. They will find out what the top offer is and offer slightly less. I don’t think Freeman is getting anywhere close to $200M. $180 would be the max on a 6 year deal and he might have to settle for 5. I think the Braves are just waiting for the market to prove that to Freeman. There aren’t a ton of teams in the market for a $200M first baseman right now.
6/$162M
is he though… I mean we did just see Semien sign a 7 year contract and he’s 2 years older. Ever since that Prince Fielder contract when he appeared to have no market and then suddenly he signed that monster contract I stopped doubting Boras.
Semien plays some defense and unless the NL adopts the DH… Nick’s value is diminished.
Prince Fielder was a bad first baseman when he signed the contract, otherwise known as a sure fire future DH, he got big dollars and big length.
I don’t know where you are getting your information from but Castellanos has graded out as a average to slightly below average fielder. specifically this past year, so I doubt teams see him as just a DH, perhaps a future DH but no one yet.
Also there is a difference between his value and how long his contract will be.
Although his value defensively as a middle infielder is undoubtedly more important and harder to replace than a middle infielder, you could make the case against Semien’s offense as he’s on;y had 2 years above 100 OPS+ and/or OPS over 800
Which happens to be 2 of the last 3 seasons, the 2 last full seasons.
You say it in a misleading way like he hasn’t been above average in 5 years. He’s literally been the most valuable position player in all of baseball since the beginning of the 2019 season.
Average to slightly below average? Dude was in the bottom 6th percentile of outs above average and was 6th to last in DRS. Closest to average he was in was UZR/150, which was still a below average -1.9 and range runs above average at -1.3. He’s below average to well below average.
Below average, not well below average.
My argument isn’t that he deserves 7-8 years, I don’t think if I was running a team, I would give it to him. I don’t think he’s a good bet defensively and personally, I’ve never been big on his bat. My argument is not what I think of his skills, my argument is that this market will bare him getting a 7-8 year contract, specifically with the agent he has.
Of course, if it wasn’t 2 of the last 3 we wouldn’t be having this conversation as he wouldn’t have gotten $175 m. It’s also well documented how great he has been the last 3 years (2020 was weird for everyone and I won’t count that against Semien or anyone else). His last 2 full seasons were elite, but prior was all below average offensively. I say this as someone who really likes his play and sees tremendous value there, but his offensive track record could be called into question. Hopefully it’s a JDM situation where he found the on-switch and continues to mash.
“I don’t know where you are getting your information…”
Try: literally above, in the article you are posting below.
@baines03 that’s the entirety of your contribution to this conversation? why bother posting? If MLBTR is your sole source for stats I think you should broaden your horizons.
Semien is two years older but is a net positive on defense and at times is arguably a better hitter. There really is no comparison.
Semien has rarely been a better hitter, and his two best years are equal at best using all metrics… Castellanos is a much better hitter overall and was doing it outside of Cincinnati so people need to calm down with that rhetoric… But his defense sucks, and maximum I would do is five years for him if it were my team and money
He’s got roughly a couple days to cash in or figure out he got to greedy and walked away from 34 million. Stranger things have happened before.
8 year deal for essentially a DH.
Stanton got a longer deal. At least you know you’re not going to lose any defensive value to age when the guy doesn’t have any defensive value to begin with, so in a sense his career trajectory is more predictable. So it all depends on the price point.
Stanton signed his contract at a younger age and has much better defense.
Yes, I think this guy is essentially saying he’ll only be worth for example 80MM over those 7 years, he could put all that value up over two years. So instead of offering him 2/80 or 5/80 offer him 7/80.
The 80M is number I’m entirely making up and so are my examples.
Stanton was younger, but that contract proved to be disastrous. I’m all for players getting paid, but it’s getting ridiculous. If players are getting this much, then I think there needs to be a salary floor and all owners need to be spending.
Was the Stanton contract disastrous? Or was the Wei-Yei Chen and their ace killing himself and his friends on a boat disastrous? Lack of pitching killed the Marlins, not the contracts of their outfielders.
@bucs. I believe you have Wei-Yin Chen mixed up with Jose Fernandez. Cocaine and Alcohol are a bad combination.
VonPurple, certainly for the Marlins, not for the Yankees. The Marlins are paying the Yankees tens of millions toward Stanton’s contract. His hit on the luxury tax payroll is “only” $22M a year. I put it in quotes since it’s still a lot of money, but look at the dollars being thrown about now. And that’s the thing with long-term deals. What seems insane one day, becomes more reasonable every year that ticks by. That why Tatis’ contract is going to become a bargain with every year of that long deal that ticks by. The Rays got a tremendous deal with Franco, etc.
Stanton remains a significant force in the lineup, basically carried the Yankees down the stretch, and has been a very good postseason performer. He’s not peak Stanton, but he still is building a HOF case and likely finished his career with over 500 HRs. He was gifted with an elite talent. That’s not Castellanos. I really would be uncomfortable with anything more than four years, but the current market says he’s going to smash that.
Contracts like Pablo Sandoval’s or Carl Crawford’s with the Red Sox, or Ellsbury with the Yankees. Those are disasters! Stanton remains productive and may even take over RF (he is only a DH by the Yankees choice) if Judge moves on, although I don’t believe he will.
@FredMcGriff, he may have been referring to the bad Chen contract as well as Fernandez’s death as the greater problems that hurt the Marlins. It actually was the former owner who really hurt the Marlins. Jeter and company had to come in and fix the financials and start rebuilding the organization toward one that fits their revenue base. If Stanton hurt them it’s in that they will have to pay the Yankees tens of millions in the coming years. That will hurt on some level, but not catastrophic. They know it’s coming and can plan for it.
I like Stanton, RobM, as he’s handled NY well when the fans haven’t been exactly kind to him. Nevertheless, I don’t want to see any suggestions of Stanton taking over because the Yankee let Judge leave!
I absolutely love Stanton as a player. Still elite IMO, but the fact is he hasn’t been on the field enough to warrant 22MM a year.
Uh, don’t forget Stanton was also coming off an MVP and was not a DH, but one of the better corner OFers in the NL.
It was a poor comparison on the OP’s part.
I just can’t see it for a guy that offers zero defensive value.
Does that include a team opt out? Who is going to give him 7 or 8 years?
Just say no.
Semien is a two way player. Castellanos is more or less forced to play the outfield in the NL but in reality is a younger JDM. Depending on the bidding, I’d expect a five to six year deal for $100m -$130m.
I assume by 2-way you mean hitting and fielding?
in this politically correct and inclusive world, I only meant hitting and fielding. TMI to anything more.
Could have meant position player and pitcher. That’s the usual meaning in a baseball context.
Position player and pitcher is only today due to a certain Angels’ player. Historically it’s meant glove and bat.
Way too long
Reminds me of JD Martinez, but seems a little more about himself, a little less of a team guy.
“Team guy” most over rated quality in professional sports. Especially baseball.
Explain. Have you never heard a scout or coach or teammate talk about how “team guy” improves a player’s worth?
Baseball is an individual sport. Yes, every player is part of a team, but that’s the extent of teamwork… every single aspect of the game is the result of an individual accomplishment. Every AB, pitch, base runner, every fielding play (multiple players contribute individually to fielding, even double plays are individual contributions, with each player having to catch or throw independently.) So, when you hear someone talking about a “team guy”, it’s some meaningless lingo to feed the media. Everything is scripted.
hogwash.
The guy can hit. The problem is that if that skill declines even a little he’s basically useless, and he’s coming off a career year.
But all you need is one team…
Might get the years but less AAV than Semien. If so with the DH could be a good pick up. He walked from 2/34. Probably thinking can get 7/140 and retire at the end. I’d rather gamble on this guy at the above numbers than a lot of other free agents.
I’d guess he gets 5 years for $110m
Boras correctly sees teams scrambling and desperately wanting to make its splash in these next 2 days. Just takes one club to get caught up in the fever and give the extra year or so…..and regret it later.
I can see him getting an 8/72M deal somewhere if he really wants an 8 year deal. That’s his WAR value.
What was the point of writing this comment? He just turned down 18 mil but will take an annual salary of less than 10million
8/$72 is a lot more money than 1/$18, though. Sure, it’s less per year, but that’s a pretty normal thing – maybe not *quite* with this extreme of a difference, usually, but it’s entirely possible.
Not saying I predict 8/$72, but he’s not getting 8/$144 for sure; he would probably happily sign 8/$120, and if he signed 8/$100 I think it would be a win. Guaranteed money over time is worth WAY more than one year at a higher salary.
Your comment is almost as bad as his. He’s not signing some ridiculous low Aav contract. He just opted out of an 17 per year contract and turned down 18m for 1 season. In what bad business world would he accept way less like your ridiculous 8year 100m contract.
You guys come on here just to say random ridiculous things
Every year there’s a guy that overvalued himself. Usually a Boras client. He turns down guaranteed money and signs for less when he can’t get a better deal. There’s no DH in the NL as of today. And DD is delusion if he’s putting him in the field.
We are also talking about a guy that had a career year, never posted above 3 WAR before this and doesn’t have a position he can field.
I doubt he tops 100M. 4.2 fWAR is more likely his Peak than not.
Is that new math?
seems a little far-fetched. Nick is at the tail end of the age where a 7-year deal at least seems plausible. In terms of the National League, unless a team sees a huge need for a big-name offensive outfielder or values offense over defense, I don’t see him landing a deal with one. Then again, he’s been with the Reds the past 2 seasons.
what is he smoking
Who knows? A lot of bad contracts are being handed out lately. A good player now does not mean they will be a good player for long.
He’s one more guy I think will be a massive overpay. He’s not as good as JDM, not as consistent, and he is selling himself like an outfielder. With JD, we paid him like a DH, which is a better scale, imho. My guess is that, if someone were to give him 6 years, they’ll get 12 WAR altogether, maybe less.
I could see a team giving him 7 years around 20 million a year.
Castellanos strikes me as a 115-125 OPS+ guy coming off a peak year. He’s entering his 30s. No defensive value. Could see a fairly quick fade into hitting mediocrity. I wouldn’t go more than a 4/72. He’ll easily beat that, but whichever team gets him will likely have some buyer’s remorse.
Now we going for Rosario… Definitely getting some bats but not signing what we expected. Jeter and Ng straight lying now.
I pity the fool who signs Castellanos for 6 or 7 years.
Teams PR flack leaking this to make Castellanos look bad.
pretty good hitter, but gotta be JD Martinez or Big Papi for a contract like that as a likely DH.
Jays please trade for Castillo and our rotation will be one of the best in baseball
That would probably take Biggio, Pearson, Groshans maybe more. It would really deplete depth and the farm, can’t see them doing that after the Berrios trade
He actually has eerily similar numbers to jayson werth before he signed his deal with the nats for 7 years. It just takes one team willing to go that far
That’s actually a pretty good call on the stat comparison
That rules at possibility of a cubs reunion. Damn.
Not happening at 7-8 years. We don’t need or want another Soriano type contract.
Yeah I know. Maybe if 1. Ricketts wanted to win. 2. He was willing to spend money and 3. If it was 5 years max with the bonus of JHey being bought out. Davis’ can play all 3 OF spots. He’s probably gonna man CF with Happ in LF
Nevermind, leave him. Contract seems like a huge risk.
Check his offensive numbers away from the hitter’s paradise in Cincinnati last year: .259 batting average, .319 on-base pct., .454 slugging.
Semien’s stats for the same criteria:
.253 ba, .317 obp, .449 slg
I think it’s unfair to cherry-pick stats and leave out context.
What more context is needed for home/road splits?
If you think it’s unfair to compare those two groups of numbers, then Dante Bichette wins the MVP in 1995.
Taking career Home/Away splits, which includes stats from 7-8 years ago, doesn’t factor much into what a team will expect production-wise moving forward in a contract. Take those splits for the last 2-4 years for sure but just taking career numbers from when these guys broke into the league at 21 & 22 just waters down their recent progress and performance.
Using career numbers WOULD be out of context. But they didn’t.
They literally used his road numbers from this past season only.
Castellanos is coming off a career year. How is someone posting his road numbers from 2021 taking something out of context?
He’s worth more if you remove him from the field.
Exactly.
I’ve always wondered why DH’s show negative defensive WAR on Baseball Reference.
Yeah I could never wrap my head around that.. Stanton is a fine defender, why should he be penalized for the Yankees choosing to plug him in the DH role.
Its wins over a replacement player. The average player can play some defense.
They would be replaced by a DH though, someone has to fill that role it’s an actual position.
That’s the thing though, with the positional adjustment they’re not measuring the DH’s defensive position value against the defensive value of other DHs, they’re measuring the DH’s defensive value against all other positions. If you add together all of the positions, the baseline for the positional adjustment averages out to zero across the league.
So for example, coveted defensive positions like C and SS might have positive adjustments of +9 and then +7 then on the other end of the spectrum 1B and LF might have adjustments of -9 and -7.
The reality is that teams are willing to sacrifice offensive value at certain positions for defensive value, so WAR takes that into account. Since there is no defensive value to a DH, the positional adjustment has to be negative.
I guess my point of confusion is on the “Wins” part.
If a SS and DH both have 3 oWAR and the SS has a dWAR of 0, my feeling is that they should end up with the same WAR. The DH didn’t add or take away and wins on defense, the same way the SS didn’t add or lose games on defense.
This is based on my (limited) understanding that if you pulled that DH out of the lineup and plugged someone else in, that the team would have 3 less wins. So why doesn’t it just stop at 3 without any further adjustments? A win is a win.
RicoD, what you’re seeing there is the positional adjustment. BBRef for example has a -15R positional adjustment for DH.
What positional adjustment does is say, for a player at X position, they have to be a little better of a hitter and/or fielder to have a similar score to a player at Y position, because players at X position don’t help their team win quite as much as Y position.
This is pretty intuitive if you play fantasy baseball; you know that identically hitting OF and SS are not the same draft position wise, right? It’s not quite the same reason – the WAR has more to do with how much they actually help the team win due to their fielding – but the same intuition applies for the most part.
For DH, they don’t help their team win on the field *at all*. This means that to be worth the position on the lineup, they need to be a little better hitter than average – otherwise you have the 2019 White Sox (sigh). If you picked a “replacement player” and put them in at DH, you’re not doing well – and in fact, it’s entirely intuitive to imagine there are “replacement DH” players that are a little better than “replacement SS” players with their bats, right? Maybe… 22 runs or so better? Certainly there are old guys who can hit a home run or two, but just can’t play the field; then think of the guys who can barely scratch the roster but can play in the field effectively enough to make up for barely hitting .200. Any chance Brian Mitchell plays for the White Sox last year if he’s DH only? Nope.
Of course, other positions have similar adjustments – 1B has -9.5 runs for example. The only difference is that a good fielding 1B can make up that negative and turn it positive, while a DH just doesn’t have the opportunity to do that – so it’s more obvious in the DH’s case when looking at the dWAR specifically.
It probably would be easier to swallow if they just added 15 runs to everyone’s defensive RAA – then DH would have a zero baseline and every other position would be positive – but part of the point of “above replacement/average” is it’s zero-baseline… so it doesn’t work that way.
Also – don’t think of it as penalizing the player directly for their “could have”. WAR are not intended to rate the “could have” – they’re “did” measurements. If Yadier Molina DHs for 162 games, he gets DH WAR, even though we know he could’ve had some defensive value in the field… it’s not how WAR works.
A couple things that might help explain this. First, the basic WAR formula is WAR = (Batting Runs + Base Running Runs + Fielding Runs + Positional Adjustment + League Adjustment +Replacement Runs) / (Runs Per Win).
So one thing to point out is that it’s not like dWAR + oWAR = WAR. Take Castellanos for example, he had a WAR of 3.2 last year but a dWAR of -1.3 and an oWAR of 4, which obviously doesn’t add up.
dWAR is a different metric than regular WAR and is calculated separately. So when you’re looking strictly at dWAR, it’s already factoring in positional alignment because it’s measuring the player against a league average defender across all positions. Whereas in the standard WAR calculation, you’re getting the positional adjustment as it’s own component of the calculation.
The basic concept is just that WAR and dWAR both account for the positional values of the defender compared to all defenders at all other positions.
@CNichol and @snoopy369, Thanks for the detailed explanations.
In my opinion, a caveat for teams who are basing off-season expenditures on WAR is that there are no guarantees players will duplicate the value they’ve provided in the past. That’s particularly true of starting pitchers in an era where practically no one qualifies as a true workhorse.
Regarding the spending flurry, are either of you taking note of which teams are spending the money? It seems as if the best teams are laying low this week. I suspect these teams will rely on trades and their organizational depth to get more bang for their buck.
The average DH doesn’t play ANY defense
Measured against ALL other positions? Now I’m even more confused about WAR. I thought the point was to be measured against an average replacement at the same position.
If you play a position that doesn’t require any defense, why would you be rated worse than one that does?
I thought that was the reason for splitting it up by Offensive WAR and Defensive WAR.
If your the best hitting shortstop, you would have the highest Offensive WAR among all shortstops that year.
Of course a SS would be more valuable OVERALL than most DH’s.
But a DH can’t possibly cost his team a win on defense.
I’m looking for a 7-8 year deal, too!
McDonalds will put you on a management track.
Castellanos in the same lineup as Harper, Segura, Hoskins and Realmuto is pretty awesome. Castellanos playing defense along with Hoskins, Didi, and a mystery CF….not so nice.
I’d rather take Schwarber. Mets killer, should cost less, rapport with Long. Then I want Suzuki and that OF is pretty solid, even if not defensively brilliant.
I don’t love either option for the Phils TBH, but yes I’d take Schwarber and Suzuki at this point.
Von, you may recall that the day he became available, I said that bat is exactly the middle of the order bat that DD spoke about…Yes, I did acknowledge his less than stellar fielding..But, if he is replacing Andrew in left, his defense will be similar while his bat will be a major upgrade..since he will also take his turns at DH, I would love to see it happen as long as the contract isn’t crazy..I’m not qualified to declare what crazy is though…
The prima donna will be lucky if he gets a 4 year deal. Plus he sucks
I don’t think the Phillies should get Castellanos, as he’s likely to cost $20 MM or more. They need a lot of pitching and are already pretty close to the current luxury tax, and I doubt they’ll go over that. I’d rather see them sign some veterans (read: cheaper players) to fill out the outfield and bench and go after a good starter and a couple of bullpen arms. So far it’s all been whiffs.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but this:
“They need a lot of pitching”
is just not true. They have a solid 1-5. Wheeler, Nola, Suarez, Gibson Eflin. They could use a backend starter for depth, but their rotation is pretty set. They need defense more than anything else. Castellanos does not help there. Their second biggest need is another bat. They got very little production from the non-stars last year.
I meant mainly the bulpen. I do think Suarez is better as a setup man (read: Fire man), meaning they’d need a no. 3. starter too.
Castellanos is the last thing the Phillies need on defense. Our defense is already in the bottom third of the MLB. You only sign Nick if he’s strictly a DH or if you plug him in left and get a guy like Kiermaier to slot next to him. If they get kiermaier then it could work.
I don’t recall any of his teams ever trying to move him to 1B, but I could be wrong. In that light I think he’s a good fit for SF in that he could fill in for Belt at first during his annual 2-3 stints on the IL and occasionally in RF unless the DH is established in the NL. Don’t see him getting 6-7 years from anyone though, but Boras always expects way more for his clients than they deserve.
Tell ’em, Wash.
Deserve?
5 years and $130 M with a club option at best !
1.$27.5
2.$27.5
3.$25
4.$25
5.$25
$25 club option, 2.5 M buyout !
$155 M over (6) grand total or 132.5 M over 5 either the option declined !
Fair deal for both !
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Does he have the same agent as Semien?
No, but he was born in Hialeah, Florida. Is that closer to Miami or Tampa Bay? Nick Castellanos’ next employer depends on your answer.
These contracts (Semien’s and what Nick is asking) are making Anthopoulos look worse for not giving Freddie six years.
@bhambrave I definitely think Freddie deserves the six, but at the same time…the Braves win all the time. Anthopoulos knows what he’s doing.
Losing Freddie over a sixth year would seriously dampen the joy of the fans for winning the WS. In a smaller way, it would be like the fire sales the Marlins had after their two WS wins.
bhambrave, they won’t lose Freeman. The crazy money is being thrown around by desperate teams while the better teams remain patient. The Braves, Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals, and Brewers have done relatively little and know what they’re doing. I’ll include the Padres in that group as well. They learned from last winter and already have their two big-ticket items in Tatis and Machado, who I’d prefer over any of these guys who have signed these past few days. It can be hard being patient as a fan; just trust your front office. While other teams are going nuts, the Braves will be adding Acuna and hopefully Soroka to a team that won the World Series. They’ll be fine. Should they lose Freeman, they’ll trade for someone like Olsen and use the saved money to improve in other areas.
@Cey Hey to be fair, the usually spend-happy Yanks and Phils haven’t done a thing yet either. Patience may pay off here, especially after the CBA talks.
Shouldn’t he wait to see if the DH gets added to the NL in the new CBA like many people think it will?
I get that he’s already conceivably an OF option and drawing interest from NL teams, but if they all end up needing full time DH’s and he’s the best option on the market then it seems like he would be better positioned after the new CBA, not now.
oh dear goodness please doent give him too many years Dombro…
@DarkSide yeah. I’m terrified. This is a rare case of not wanting to make a big splash, or at least not for the amount of years and $ Nicky C wants.
So, here’s a guy with less that 13 BWAR over his career, his highest seasonal WAR last year at 3.2. Is this the guy you throw WAR out the window for? From 1996 through 2006, Manny Ramirez never had a WAR less than 4.1 There are other first rank sluggers who were fielding-limited who had similar runs. Is Castellanos in that category?
Pete Incaviglia and Leon Wagner were born too soon.
In other news, my wife and I are negotiating an eight-year extension to our marriage. The sticking point is my weekly allowance. I want a raise to $20, but she won’t go a penny above $16.
Maybe you should concede on the money, and pivot to some other perks.
You must be single. When you’re married, money is the only perk available.
no sign-and-trade option?
Cey Hey about to be DFA’d!
This is another example of a guy who wants what he’s not going to get.
He’ll be lucky to get a 6 year deal. No one wants to pay a 30 yo that kind of money long term. Good luck with that. I hope the Giants don’t waste their time with this guy. We can find much better alternatives than this waste of money.
The Giants have an outfield full of guys who can play center field. They value defense. I can’t imagine them being interested in a DH-only guy like Castellanos. Let someone else make that mistake. There are some desperate teams throwing money around in case you haven’t noticed.
8 years is a lot. Marlins have Aguilar to DH.
Good luck playing elsewhere Nick. You won’t be playing for your hometown team.
I mean if Semien landed 7 years, it’s possible Castellanos could too.
Can you say Mets??
NL is adding the DH in the New Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Nick Castellanos will get paid.
He will play RF and DH (maybe 50/50).
Castellanos’s offensive numbers were slightly lower in Detroit because of that huge “pitchers park” in Detroit.
Great American Ball Park is a bandbox. His 2020-21 H/A splits are an example of that.
2021 BA OBP SLG OPS
Away .260 .319 .454 .772
Home .359 .407 .702 1.109
2020 BA OBP SLG OPS
Away .221 .288 .469 .757
Home .229 .308 .505 .812
Moreover, he’s horrible in the field and has no plate discipline.
I wanted the guy to stay here in Cincinnati mainly because he had become somewhat of a local icon, but he isn’t worth what he’s asking considering his defense is at best average, doesn’t really run much and is at best streaky.
Lol never