Three full offseasons have elapsed since the Cubs signed Yu Darvish to a six-year contract, and the only multi-year arrangement they’ve signed with a free agent in the offseasons since was a two-year, $5MM deal to utilityman Daniel Descalso. Even including the in-season three-year contract Craig Kimbrel signed in 2019, the Cubs’ total free-agent expenditures over the past three years comes to just under $82MM — about 65 percent of the total figure they gave to Darvish alone. Suffice it to say, they haven’t been especially active — at least not by the standards of a former $200MM-payroll club that plays in one of the game’s largest markets.
Team chairman Tom Ricketts has attributed the downturn in spending to myriad factors. As far back as 2019, he claimed that the Cubs “didn’t have any more” resources to commit to payroll, and in the years since he’s referenced the “dead-weight loss” associated with paying the luxury tax and “biblical” losses during the Covid-19 pandemic.
The 2021 season, of course, saw the Cubs blow up the core of their World Series-winning 2016 team. They traded Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo and Javier Baez (as well as several other veterans) prior to the deadline. Now, with a much cleaner payroll slate, Ricketts has publicly indicated for the first time in several years that the club plans to spend to some extent this winter.
“We have the resources necessary to compete in 2022 and beyond, and we will use them,” Ricketts wrote in a letter to season ticketholders Friday. “We will be active in free agency and continue to make thoughtful decisions to bolster our roster.” He goes on to stress that the organization “respects” the “high expectations” of fans and shares their desire to win. “We commit to fielding a competitive team reflective of your unrivaled support,” Ricketts added.
Cubs fans will surely be relieved to see any ownership mention of spending after a few seasons marked by payroll cuts. That said, Ricketts’ use of “thoughtful” might not set the stage for major expenditures — particularly when taken in conjunction with president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer’s recent comments about being “opportunistic.” Hoyer noted that the type of flashy, aggressive moves made when teams strive to “win the offseason” can quickly become detrimental once the initial excitement fades.
Having gone out of his way to promise that the club will be active in free agency, Ricketts will surely push the front office to spend to some degree. The more meaningful question will come down to what constitutes an “active” offseason, particularly after Hoyer’s more measured comments last week. Gordon Wittenmyer’s recent interview with Carlos Correa over at NBC Sports Chicago will no doubt have Cubs fans dreaming of a mega-deal for a new franchise shortstop, but it’s hard to imagine the team going in such an aggressive direction not even a year into this retooling/rebuilding process.
Hoyer has been clear that this won’t be a full teardown to the extent of the Cubs’ prior rebuild, but Chicago is lacking depth all over the diamond. Pouring so many resources into one position at a time when there’s a dire need for starting pitching, outfield help and long-term options elsewhere in the infield would register as a surprise. The Cubs probably do have that type of financial wherewithal — we’ve seen as much in the past — but Hoyer’s comments portend a series of smaller-scale signings aimed at addressing many areas of need up and down the roster.
DarkSide830
this really just does seem to make it look that a lot of their recent financial hesitancy had to do with losing faith in Theo after some of his later signings.
Cap & Crunch
I don’t believe a word Rickettes says
Its all been smoke
They saw (correctly) what had to happen…now they are just trying to play the media to get those 2022 season tickets sold.
Deleted User
They will be very active signing utility infielders, 4th outfielders, and swing men in the bullpen.
rememberthecoop
This is my take too Steve.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
The sky is blue, the rain will fall, shoulda, woulda coulda, ugh
Why even release such a bland statement? I’m not convinced, are you?
Georgiajeff
In short dumpster diving
Dogbone
Agree with your view of Ricketts. But as far as the needs of the team: They need a starting caliber SS or 3B depending on what they do with Hoerner. They need a LH bat for DH. They need 2 or 3 relievers. But most of all they need 2 quality starting pitchers. All of those needs cannot possibly be filled this offseason.
They are ok in the OF with Brennan Davis and Nelson Velazquez about to arrive in Chicago in 2022. Joining Happ and Ortega.
cars
History of minor league players tells us 1 thing, don’t count on them making the ML and sticking for at least 1 year. I hope Davis and Velazquez make it. Ortega and the other 30 year old 1st year players, I don’t count on them. They all played with no pressure to succeed.
pt57
Only 2 SPs? Try like 4.
The Mets "Missed WAR"
I mean… The Cubs aren’t a great team right now. They don’t have a solid young core ready to help the expensive veterans make a run at a championship. The Cubs SHOULD be saving their money until they can spend it on years where the less expensive core is ready to actually contribute with the veterans. Spending a bunch of cash right now would kind of be a waste. Like it or not the Cubs are in somewhat of a mini-rebuild. Jumping the gun and spending the cash now when the rest of the team is not ready would be counter productive. Wait until the younger guys can almost get you there on their own and THEN add the veterans to push them over the top. Don’t try to do it in reverse order just because some impatient fans want to see you spend money. Make sure that money really counts. Never try to buy a playoff spot. No one cares about that. Earn the playoff spot first and then try to buy a World Championship.
pt57
No. You go after younger FAs who will be good when/if the younger players develop.
The Mets "Missed WAR"
Pt57: what happens if the core isn’t ready as soon as you hope? Then by the time they are the big free agents you sign are on the downside of their careers and still eating up a ton of payroll. Then instead helping your team it will be the expensive vets hurting your team like Heyward is now. Don’t count your eggs before they hatch. It could screw you in the future when you might actually have a chance. The Cubs don’t have a chance right now anyway and you might be blowing up the next chance you do have for no good reason other than “the Ricketts should spend more money and I want them to do it now.” It’s unwise. Too much risk with very little reward. It’s also pointlessly expensive in the meantime. Teams should be cheap when they can’t contend anyway.
rondon
I agree with much of that, but I think Theo, at least at the start, did it right. Sign a front line starter like he did with Lester, and grow a staff around him. They have a couple of solid young arms on the verge that would benefit from a vet like that. (Extending Contreras would also help in that regard.). They don’t have a young Rizzo or Bryant to build around yet, so that might mean waiting another year to see if any of the kids step up or a trade works out. It wouldn’t break my heart to have Rizzo back and maybe a Ben Zobrist type like Chris Taylor. Gonna be an interesting offseason.
Dogbone
@ The Mets
What your logic is missing, is that it is impossible to expect to acquire all your ‘missing pieces’ in one offseason. You add when you can. There are 29 other teams that are competing with you, for these same good players. You don’t have to break the bank all at once, but if you see an opportunity- you take it if you have the money. And Ricketts has the available funds.
1984wasntamanual
That works out really well, just look at how awesome the Phillies have been….oh wait.
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When you have as many missing pieces as the cubs currently do, how do you know which ones you need to start spending FA$ on?
Georgiajeff
You make good points but Ricketts I hope knows he needs to be competitive. I think the days are gone when the Cubs could count on a full house when fielding a last place team. He has way to much money invested in the team his cubbie land. Spending money on a ball game is discretionary cash and there are a million other things to do besides watching bad baseball. I have been a fan six I was 5, now 60 and live in Georgia. If this team is bad no way I am spending money on Marquee to watch nbad baseball.
cubbiepatriot21
There aren’t many young FAs. Carlos Correa is the only youngish/prime FA to be and he will likely return to Houston and/or be way too expensive. Trying to get Bryant back and someone like Trevor Story and Marcus Stroman/Noah Syndergaard (coming off injury).
There are not a lot of players becoming FAs that are going to greatly improve this team. Ortega is a placeholder who cannot be counted on to repeat. Late bloomer, perhaps. Wisdom needs to improve his contact or he is just like all the sluggers we shipped out, minus Bryant (who takes walks and strikes out less).
They have to go for a number 1 starter or it won’t matter. They have young guys that could bloom in their second full year, but you cannot count on Steele, Alzolay, and Thompson to all dramatically improve unless the pitching coach somehow learns how to coach. Each has the tools and youth.
This list is not inspiring. Some of the top younger players at key positions are former Cubs. mlb.com/news/mlb-2021-22-free-agents-by-position
This is why the team will be doomed to fail next year unless they can get three top-caliber players.
Yankee Clipper
To me, this screams of patronization of the Cubs’ fans. This is the manager at *insert cable/dish company* telling you how sorry they are they’ve overcharged your account again, or that you’ve had the same repeat issues with service.
This is to keep fans purchasing, attending, and at-bay while they navigate the offseason trying to figure out how to save as much money as possible, without taking, and make it look like they tried.
Typical ownership BS. If they go out, land top FAs, and blow past the CBT (of there is one)? Yeah, it’s true. I have a feeling this is more of the same ubiquitous crowd-pleasing sentiments to appease until more excuses are made.
Dogbone
Ricketts is far more concerned with money than he is, winning. And he gives his attention to transforming Wrigleyville into Rickettsville.
dodger1958
Ricketts (and his family) is far more concerned with politics than whether the Cubs are successful.
The Human Toilet
Being over the CBT 2018-2020 really showed that.
Totally cool for the Yankees to make resetting the CBT this year over going all in, Dodgers to be below the CBT for the last few until this year, Red Sox dumping Betts to get below the CBT but if the Rickets reset it and they don’t care about winning anymore and terrible owners.
Somehow the Rickets get all the blame for the downfall of the core and where they are now but somehow Theo who built that roster barley gets any,
dodger1958
The owner has ultimately say so on salaries. Always.
Yankee Clipper
Patches: I did not, nor will I, give the Yankees a pass for prioritizing staying under CBT over winning. Most Yankees fans haven’t, if you’ve read. But they also didn’t make it a point to send letters out misleading their most important source of income- fans. So, you’re comparing apples to oranges.
Oooohhhhh, it isn’t misleading them!! I just realized, “They will be active this offseason” doesn’t mean FAs….it means while other teams are signing people, they will be “active,” ya know, biking, talking, running, playing hide-and-seek.
Dogbone
@dodgers
Very true regarding Ricketts family true values. And those values come with their love of money.
Cap & Crunch
Yup and Yup
Spot On
Oddly tho It could all be much easier by just telling the truth
BeforeMcCourt
It was a letter to season ticket holders. OF COURSE it’s playing the fans like fools
Fire Krall
Are you a Reds fan? that’s the same thing they did around the all star game in Cincinnati….oh and every year since. ….kinda like the new Taco Bell commercial….except Ricketts/Castellini goes to the bank….not a Taco!
BeforeMcCourt
… yeah it has nothing to do with sharing the exact timing of Ricketts getting busted for trying to skate construction laws on Wrigleyville
Why do so many people refuse to acknowledge this? It doubled the cost of their project and they haven’t signed any major money deals since. are people so naive to think Theo did that too dark?
Phanatic 2022
Every Mets player ever belongs in the HOF.
seth3120
Idk. A lot of guys that they traded were on bounce back years. I think they’ll have a hard time. Brewers are still there and although the Cardinals aren’t a juggernaut they lost a lot of dead weight on payroll. A lot of who they let go are they’re young core. Maybe a few years down the road but I don’t expect much from them this year
Cap & Crunch
Not a full teardown? Why not should be the Q, not why……
Contreras and Hendriks together to bump the package – Should be 20 suitors
SD Ana Hou NYM stand out as frontrunners but many more will be interested
Mystery Team
Kyle Hendricks isn’t as enticing this off season as he has been in the past. He took a serious step back this season. He’s the poster boy for why wins shouldn’t matter all that much as a stat. I’m not saying he can’t bounce back I’m just saying I don’t think teams will be chomping at the bit to get him and he certainly won’t be the piece that puts any trade over the top. Contreras now that’s a different story. A catcher of his caliber is enticing for sure. I’m sure the Yankees will be checking in on him unless of course they keep trotting Gary Sanchez out there with his horrendous glove.
PutPeteinthehall
Contreras is a free agent 2023. Think Hendricks has friendly contract and little injury history. Hendricks brings more.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Losses of Biblical Proportions!
As John Belushi once said Many Moons Ago
There were Locusts!!!!
Chicago was attacked by Locusts
hd-electraglide
So, does a cow need to kick over a lantern in the O’Leary (Ricketts) barn?
cars
PROVE IT RICKETTS!! Otherwise all he said is BS. Why keep Contreras and Hendricks when the team won’t be maybe getting good for 2 to 3 years. Cubs need a lot of prospects because most won’t succeed. Cubs bloggers would want fans to believe most will succeed.
Rayland#1
Cubs don’t need to spend, they need to develop.
kodiak920
Amen, brother.
Ry.the.Stunner
They need to do both.
ortsacnilrats
Amen brother. But I’m less concerned if they spend this off-season. I’d rather not just spend to spend and especially before we’re ready. Sign as many guys that you think you can flip for more prospects. Then start spending the years after that. Just my thoughts.
micpande
Why can’t they do both. The Dodgers, who have had arguably the most sustained success over the last decade, have done just that. When Friedman left the Rays he brought his ability to draft and develop to a big market spender. The Cubs should absolutely be following this strategy.
The Human Toilet
I think they will, you can spend and develop at the same time and I think that is the goal here.
I see payroll being around $150 million and putting up a solid team in 2022 but not legit contenders, but they will be in a good position in 2023 or 2024 to take that big jump.
dodger1958
Define solid.
iml12
You sign short term veteran pitching. If you are not competing by July you trade those players for prospects. This isn’t rocket science. You use your money to compete or improve your farm every single year. Every contending team in baseball is looking for pitching in July. You don’t have to lose 100 games to upgrade the farm. The cubs traded 8-9 guys on expiring contracts and added a ton of young talent.
ajrodz1335
Why though?
Rsox
Signing 10 to 15 minor league contracts is technically being “busy in free agency”
sdbaseballguy
Why is a team in the 3rd largest market EVER in rebuild mode? The Yankees snd Dodgers never rebuild, they restock yearly. What’s different about the Cubs? They have tremendous revenue streams and very deep pockets. Might it be their owner?
1984wasntamanual
How’s that working out for the Yankees? You can’t buy a whole team in free agency…that’s why they’re rebuilding.
sdbaseballguy
The Yankees compete EVERY season and I’ll take that over 1 Cubs championship every century. BTW, the Cubs have had as many loosing seasons since 2000 as the Yankees have had in the past CENTURY.
1984wasntamanual
Every season, huh? Guess 2016 never happened.
dodger1958
1984 competing doesn’t mean winning the WS every year.
JoeBrady
They have to rebuild. They stink. The absolute worse thing they could do right now, is to sign a bunch of long-term contracts in a bid to be .500.
Ry.the.Stunner
Yankees haven’t even been to a World Series in 12 seasons, so maybe they should consider it.
sdbaseballguy
and a winning record EVERY year. The Cubs, a joke of a franchise since 1919.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
For the past eleven regular seasons 2010-2021:
Cubs are 922-920.
Houston is 913-929
Phillies are 897-945
Mets are 896-946
Padres are 855-987.
So the Cubs average more than 6 wins per season more than the Padres over the past eleven years.
The Human Toilet
Or could be Theo ran the team into the ground? $238 Million payroll and missed the playoffs in 2019 but must be the owner.
Yankees have not done crap since 2009, even the Cubs have a more recent World Series championship.
Haha!! Be like the Yankees and pay a pitcher $35 million for the next 9 years to not even make it out of the 3rd inning in the Wild card game.. lol
I will take a pass on that one.
sdbaseballguy
It’s not your money, why do you care what a billionaire owner spends. I’d rather watch Cole pitch than Hendricks, Davies or Mills.
1984wasntamanual
Because I’m not a child and I understand how a business works.
citizen
Different owner, same day. When the tribune owned it, or zell owned it, they were never serious about putting a competitive team on the field. Wrigley is a historic park, a giant beer garden and a cash cow. Most teams, ie pirates, marlins, padres had losing teams and little to no attendance. Padres historically losing team, made an all star team , increased attendance but can’t get over that playoffs hump. Cubs don’t want to spend the money.
dodger1958
citizen they traditionally, at least since 1919, have losing records and the fans still support the team. Why should Ricketts care, if the fans don’t seem to mind?
citizen
That was my point, losing record, historic ballpark still fills seats. However winning or competitive teams draws 40000 on avg vs 32000 on avg.for a losing team in recent years.
dodger1958
It is possible the Cubs resign some of the players they traded away. Baez, for example. Though I know some fans have issues with him.
Curveball1984
It’s all got to do with price. If there’s one I would invest in would be Bryant, but Boras is going to convince them to go crazy on price, even tho KB was pretty putrid down the stretch for the Giants. Baez still loving talks like he wants to sign, and he was better with the Mets, but he also should only be signed at certain price. He has alot of holes in his offense that will eventually come back to haunt whoever signs him. Rizzo & Schwarber are the most obvious targets, especially with a potential DH on the way. But Rizzo seems done with the Cubs. There’s some heat there. Schwarber again becomes…. how much do you pay a full-time DH/part-time position player? Obviously getting rid of Kyle for Joc was a huge mistake.
dodger1958
Curveball more than price. They won’t have to give up draft picks to resign any of them. Many potential FA will have QOs attached to them. Not so with any of the former Cubbies.
1984wasntamanual
As a cubs’ fan, no, I don’t care what Ricketts says. I also am not one of the people who constantly screams about “cheap ownerzzz”. He’s already shown that when it makes sense, he’ll spend.
IACub
unlike everyone else here, im gonna take this at his word. He has been clear about not wanting to go over the luxury tax and unfortunately that left the team in stuck position with their big contracts. with that being said, I cant imagine the Cubs going after top tier free agents this off-season. a few middle tier SP will likely be the extent of the big money but otherwise they need to find some guys to build around first
JoeBrady
I assume he is lying. There is no reason to spend right now. Contreras is real good. Hoerner, Wisdom, Schwindel, Happ maybe okay. Not much else on offense. 5 SPs with no ERA+ of 100, or a FIP of less than 4.53. No closer.
At this point, 70 wins might be a good season. The best thing they could do is maybe sign a few RPs, win a couple more games, and hope that some of them become trade chips.
I like the trades they made last year, but it makes them worse in the short-term.
1984wasntamanual
I’d like to see them also sign some starting pitchers. Even if it’s bounce back/reclamation project types, maybe they can get lucky like they did with Jake (I know they traded for him) or they can find people they’ll be able to trade at the deadline. They NEED to find pitching somehow…you can’t buy an entire rotation.
micpande
Madrigal is going to hit .320 and be a great leadoff hitter. Brennan Davis will be up in June. That’s a legitimate and inexpensive offense. The Brewers won the central with zip offense and a great rotation and bullpen. If the Cubs spent $100 million on the rotation they would absolutely compete for the division next year.
1984wasntamanual
Ah yes, let’s count on a guy with 0 MLB experience to be a good MLB hitter the second he comes up, surely there is no chance for that to fail.
If you’re spending 100m+ a year on your rotation to aging pitchers, you’re setting yourself up for failure unless you’re gonna run a $250m+ payroll every year.
micpande
Shorter contracts at higher AAV and making smart trades that don’t cripple your farm system. Again using the Dodgers as the model.
JoeBrady
1-It is never wise to look at a team that is currently success, and then assume that they have THE model. A cynic might point to one WSC in 22 and suggest that there are other viable models.
2-I hate to have to break it to you, but the Cubs don’t have a Seager, Lux, Bellinger, Smith, Kershaw, Buehler, Urias, Gonsolin that they can promote. Nor do they have a Verdugo, Downs, Ruiz or Gray to trade.
1984wasntamanual
Good luck with that. What % of good starting pitchers accept deals like that (some have for geographic reasons) …there is a reason that Bauer signing the contract that he did was such a big deal.
dodger1958
1984 Bauer was born and raised a Dodger fan. Went to UCLA (teammate of Cole). So it wasn’t such a big deal that he came home.
PS. I am good friends with his guidance counselor (one of them) and he said Bauer was a POS in high school. Dodgers whiffed on that one.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Is that 100 million a year or total? Because yes if the Cubs sign Scherzer, Ray and Stroman, I agree that they can compete with Brewers as a great pitching average hitting team. But this is not going to happen. They have Contreras behind plate, Schwindel at 1B, Madrigal at 2B, Hoerner at SS, Wisdom at 3B and an outfield of Happ, Ortega and pretty soon Davis. Maybe they can get Chafin back, a couple of young starters but they need to develop pitching before worrying about fun things like bringing back Jorge Soler or Javy Baez.
JoeBrady
The Cubs are really bad now. I doubt that Scherzer, Ray & Stroman would even make them a .500 team.
They won 71 last year, and got rid of Bryant, Rizzo, Baez & Kimbrel. What are they now? A 60-win team? Maybe 65? The idea that some Cubs want to sign multiple guys to $100M contracts, to reach .500, is really counterproductive.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Let’s make it clear, I do not think that Cubs should get Scherzer, Ray and Stroman. And we all know one hundred percent that they will not. But I do think with those three pitchers and a couple mid-ling quality relievers and being in their relatively weak division that they would end up over 0.500 and maybe even compete for division. But it is not worth arguing whether, if unicorns can fly, whether they will also have phasers. My point is that the Cubs need to develop or being in pitching more than the position players. And this off-season I expect several bargain upgrades for position players to be available, players like Soler and Duvall, but bargain pitchers will be harder to identify.
WtfMate
People just don’t like Ricketts’ politics, so they make him out to be the boogie man…
dodger1958
Wtf people don’t like extremist politicians or those that support him. Same would be true of a Bernie Sanders supporting person.
WtfMate
If Trump is extreme, then I’m not sure you understand what the word extreme means… The dude was the most centrist president we’ve had in decades… Unless you listen to CNN
dodger1958
Wtf centrist? Not even close. Unless you listen to OAN, Newsmax and read Breitbart (however you spell it). He’s as centrist as Bernie Sanders.
1984wasntamanual
Only by California standards…
dodger1958
Your statement makes no sense. Are you claiming Trump is the most Centrist president in decades?
mfm4200
his politics have killed thousands of his voters in nebraska.
that’s more than enough to call him out (and the boogie man is like jesus christ: something folks made up to scare children. only difference is you types actually think jebus is real and is coming back any day now).
1984wasntamanual
Source?
SilvioDante
It’s always easy to “talk the talk” but let’s see Cubs ownership “walk the walk.” That being said, the Cubs’ interest in Correa has been floated for years, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if they make a push for him. But pushing and signing are two different things.
Jake1972
The Cubs shouldn’t be in the market for any free agents unless they can be traded for prospects because the team can not compete…
The Ace of the Staff is Kyle and their only legit star is Wilson, so let just tear it down and rebuild correctly where development is the most important aspect of the future.
Adolpho67
All this Ricketts-bashing never ends & now any positive comment is turned around to a negative. But never fear “real Cub fans”, imo things aren’t as bleak as haters think.
Going into a winter when every team out there is awaiting news on a new CBA, it’s a scary proposition for many teams with huge payrolls or low payrolls. Luxury tax, qualifying offers, service time issues…make positioning your team to react a priority. Good news is Cubs may be in best position of all teams. Very little future payroll on the books and a ton of money to spend. They can react to any market change immediately and enter this winter with a clean slate! Hoyer/Hawkins will be a good team…Cubs have a good track record with Vandy guys.
micpande
If draft picks can be traded after the next CBA I could also see the Cubs and Nationals for that matter using that capital to go after teams like the A’s and Rays higher arb players.
Dunk Dunkington
Hopefully they are smart and spend smart while developing their own PITCHERS!!
Their is so many holes and lack depth to be able to build a serious contender this offseason but they can build a team that fans can get excited about an entering while keeping the focus on the big picture long term.
Ti
rememberthecoop
The Cubs need so much help that it’s unrealistic to think they will contend in 2022. The rotation is in shambles, with no help from the farm unless a guy like Justin Steele surprises. It seems like their top pitching prospect Marquez is injury prone to an extent and his future may be in the pen. That fastball should eventually lead to a closer opportunity.
I see the infield as Wisdom at third; Hoerner at short;
Madrigal at second and Frank the Tank at first. Not great. The outfield will have Ortega in center and I guess Heyward in right. Left will belong to a free agent or trade. Catcher is Willie, unless they move him.
This is a 75 win team.
Adolpho67
Happ is LF and BDavis (top prospect) is in CF by June.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Agree outfield is Happ, Ortega and Davis but also agree they are 75 won team without big FA pitching acquisitions.
rememberthecoop
You’re right Adolpho. I forgot about Happ. And I agree with you that Davis will be up next season. I can’t wait to see what. he will do.
Yep it is
Not a Cubs fan at all but feel for their fans. Ricketts is a Snake Oil Salesman. That team should of had at least 2 Championships in the last 6 years. Don’t tell us about the COVID season 1 out of 5. What a joke he is.
micpande
1 World Series. 2 NLCS appearances, 4 division titles and 5 playiff appearances in 6 years. The most wins in MLB from 2015-2017. A top 8 payroll for 6 straight years. Disappointing that they only won 1 WS, sure, but know the facts before posting asinine comments.
sdbaseballguy
Lol top 8 payroll. They’re in the 3rd largest market. Nice 3 year run to choose 15-17. What about 2000-14 & 17-21, also convenient to just ignore the prior century of futility. I get it you’re a fan but the Cubs are a dumpster fire of an organization.
Compo
So are over half the teams in baseball. Aside from a few of the Gwynn years, the Padres have been absolute garbage as well.
Rick Wilkins
A Padres fan calling ANY organization a dumpster fire is laughable. YOU GUYS HAVE LITERALLY NEVER WON ANYTHING, except the contest to replace the Mets as the worst fan base. Mission accomplished. Put on your swag chain.
1984wasntamanual
His response was about Ricketts specifically, why are you including years that Ricketts didn’t own the team?
revolver
3 NLCS appearances.
mike127
Thank you micpande——it’s amazing that people call the Ricketts cheap and completely overlook or just don’t know or take into consideration the BILLION dollars of their own that they have invested in the upgrade of the park and action around the park. THAT is where the loss of biblical proportions happened during COVID. If you really really follow the Cubs, Ricketts promise is to reinvest the money from there back into the team. That’s a billion dollars over a five to seven year period ON TOP of a $200M+ a year payroll. They are anything but cheap.
It’s amazing that 95% of the people (won’t consider it can base) are far more pissed off that they didn’t win multiple championships (yet) under Ricketts than thankful that they have won sports most difficult championship, if only once.
LookHere
@Yep it is, Ricketts is ehh but you got the wrong person. Theo Epstein is the snake oil salesman. He traded a lot of prospects away for a cheap and quick WS win. If we knew back then that the core we had, would have won us a World Series or two eventually, we should have kept the prospects and developed them then call them up when ready.
The prospects are already doing well with their teams now so yeah all of this for a dirty cheap and quick WS win then Theo hightailed out of Dodge as soon as his scam was exposed.
I’d prefer we continue to contend and win every year with the same core plus the prospects we had prior to being traded away then who knows, we probably will have what the Blackhawks had — three Stanley Cup wins.
All in all, Thanks a lot Obama and Theo and eff off.
JoeBrady
You traded Torres, Soler, Jimenez, and Cease for a WSC. Those guys are good, but none are stars. Cease is pretty good, but Eloy & Soler are basically DHs, and Torres is difficult to predict.
Would you actually hand back your WSC to have kept everyone and hope for the future?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Joe Brady, No the guys traded away were future stars and a heavy cost to pay. But yes, worth it to get the WS win. The issue is not do you regret the trades but rather if they had spent more could they have retained more prospects. In any event, I have few complaints about the past, it was time to rebuild and if the Cubs have a top 5 payroll within 3 to 4 years and smart player development especially pitching then that is all we can expect. But until we see the payroll and product of the next few years we can only grade management as TBD.
sjwil1
Soler, Jimenez and Cease were traded after the WSC.
Joospife
people are wrong about being active. To be active in free agency, you don’t have to hang on to the best free agents in the long run.
Joospife
Cubs have the payroll on the floor and they can and should spend but I think it will be to put together a decent team to compete in 2022.
Joospife
they will be in the market for free agents who sign in the short term 1 to 3 years no more. free agency is full of interesting free agents who must sign contracts like this. to mention a few, Michael Conforto, Jorge Soler, James Paxton, Andrew Heaney, Danny Duffy, Steven Matz, Alex Wood, Anthony Rizzo, Corey Kluber among many others. Cubs must be active in that type of market. And do not rule out that they can sign one of the young SS on the market if they see it as a long-term main piece to build around, such as Carlos Correa and Corey Seager
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My criteria for a free agent is how good and how expensive to still have this player on your team during 2024 to 2026. It would be great to trade for a couple pitchers they can control for a while. Let Kyle pitch have the season to regain value and then trade him for young pitching like the way the Rays traded Snell for Patino. I am sure that has Kyle not trended downward as the season progressed that would have traded him for a good bounty. Maybe they can bring back the Sheriff?
scuba17
Please no Carlos Correa. I honestly don’t care how good of a player someone is if they aren’t easy to root for. The guy participated in cheating and just comes off as arrogant. He isn’t even that good of a player and is injured frequently. He isn’t even worth what the Astros were offering him and he thinks he deserves a lot more.. The team that signs him will regret it, no question.
Bigtimeyankeefan
I bet they get rizzo back
scuba17
I hope so. It never should have gotten to him being traded.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I disagree. They offered Rizzo a fair deal. Awesome player always to be remembered fondly by Cub fans, but no reason to throw money at the guy, now he will end up with Yankees for maybe two years at 35 million when Cubs would have done four years at 70 million.
LordD99
Pretty much every team dips into free agency. Saying they’ll be active is as useful as my wife telling me she’s going out shopping. I just don’t know if she’s heading to Louis Vuitton or Target.
48-team MLB
The Cubs and White Sox should play a best-of-nine. The loser relocates to Indianapolis.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
That is as likely as Andrew Luck playing in this year’s Super Bowl.
Dorothy_Mantooth
As constituted right now, the Cubs are a 100 loss team and would compete with Pittsburgh for last place in the NL Central in 2022. The Cubs have a lot of work to do just to filed a .500 ball club. I just don’t see what they can do this offseason to build a ‘competitive’ team, there are just too many holes to fill.
JoshHolt32
Wilson Contreras to Miami for Braxton Garrett and decent left handed hitting OF Prospect
Altuves Buzzer
Think the Cubs should spend the next 2 free agency periods trying to get Free agents that profile like robbie grossman did, sign for 2 years at slightly above market rates but get the player, easy math say $20 million 2 years. Then front load the cash on year one and trade at the deadline for a rental with a year remaining at say $10 million against the luxury tax
Then target the likes of Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Oakland, Cleveland, next trade deadline where you can offer the player at a reduced ticket to the incumbent team and increase your return.
Do that with 3 players a year each of the next 2 years and stock the kitchen that much faster.
ChiSoxCity
The time to spend was 3 or 4 years ago. Very weird timing with this club. Nothing they do makes an ounce of sense.
sportsfan38
Ha Ha Ha
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Joe Ricketts probably cut his kids off. That’s why they don’t have anymore “resources”. With Brennan Davis more than ready to lead the next core of players. They need to focus on pitching. They don’t and shouldn’t even consider Correa an option unless its a short term deal so they don’t further block Ed Howard and other SS/infielders that can help in the not too distant future. Davis looks like the real deal. I can’t remember the last time the cubs had a 5 tool player
Stormintazz
“Active” = Kicking the tires on all the free agents. Will not sign any major free agents but will talk to all of them. Just to keep the faithful engaged for tickets