The Phillies announced they’ve released Vince Velasquez. That was the anticipated outcome once Philadelphia designated him for assignment over the weekend.
Velasquez was on the injured list at the time of his designation (although he had begun a minor league rehab assignment). Injured players can’t be placed on outright waivers, and with the trade deadline having passed, Velasquez’s designation meant he’d wind up released. That’s mostly a formality anyhow, since he would’ve had the right to reject an outright assignment in favor of free agency while still retaining his entire salary as a player with more than five years of MLB service time.
If Velasquez clears release waivers, he’ll be free to sign elsewhere. That seems likely, as claiming him would require a team to assume the remainder of his $4MM salary (approximately $452K through season’s end). If he clears waivers, a new club could sign the right-hander for the prorated portion of the league minimum while leaving the Phils on the hook for the bulk of the salary.
Whether he’s claimed or signed as a free agent after clearing waivers, Velasquez wouldn’t be eligible for a new team’s postseason roster since he was released after August 31. It’s still possible a team on the fringes of contention could look to bring him in for a couple weeks in an attempt to bolster their pitching depth as they try to make a playoff push. Velasquez worked 3 2/3 innings during his rehab outing last Wednesday, so he’s seemingly nearing readiness in his recovery from the blister issue that landed him on the IL last month.
The release concludes an up-and-down tenure for Velasquez in Philly. Acquired from the Astros as part of the December 2015 Ken Giles trade, the 29-year-old spent parts of six seasons with the Phils. He got off to a very promising start, tossing 131 innings of 4.12 ERA ball while striking out 27.6% of batters faced, a mark that dwarfed that year’s 20.2% league average for starting pitchers. That ultimately proved to be the high-water mark of Velasquez’s tenure in Philadelphia, though.
Over the next five seasons, Velasquez never posted an ERA below 4.85. He showed flashes at times, working in the mid-90s and missing bats at a league average or better rate. But he also issued walks at a higher than average clip in four of his last five seasons (2019 being the exception) while giving up a fair amount of hard, airborne contact. That predictably led to consistent troubles with home runs — particularly in Philadelphia’s hitter-friendly home ballpark — that inflated his run prevention totals.
Velasquez’s up-and-down performances will make him an interesting free agent this winter. (Even if he signs elsewhere for this season’s final couple weeks, he’ll again reach the open market this offseason). He’s still only 29 years old, and Velasquez has shown enough bat-missing promise to remain intriguing. Between their park and lackluster team defenses in recent years, the Phillies haven’t been in position to get the greatest results from their pitching staffs. Perhaps a club with a more pitcher-friendly environment and/or solid defense feels they can yet coax mid-rotation production out of Velasquez, with a multi-inning relief role a fallback possibility if he continues to scuffle as a starter.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
A long, unfulfilling history with Phil. You can’t con-Vince me it was worth it.
BovineCrab
It doesn’t matter. As Phillies fans love to say, “The rest of the league better watch out once Vince Velasquez gets good.”
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
After 7 years he’s only proved he has little or nothing to offer.
When does he get good?
kje76
Ass soon as he leaves Philly. I’m not convinced Vinny Velo has it, but that’s been the luck of the Phils – the pitchers find their way after they leave …
fullzvision
I’d be surprised if he could land in Toronto and see what Pete Walker can do with him, not saying he’d turn it all around like Robbie Ray but who knows?
caryloyd
Robbie Ray was hardly a bust with a 5 era like Velasquez. Ray had one bad year 2020. Other than that he was solid.
D24
A clear target to turn into the next Collin McHugh, best case scenario. His starting days have to be done.
paddyo furnichuh
Or maybe a minor league deal with LAD to come back to some of his roots.
Mjm117
He needs to sign with the Fish. Hasn’t been given enough opportunities to be DFA’s enough times.
When it was a game.
The times I watched him pitch his pitch selection seemed terrible.
FletcherFan66
That’s the catcher’s fault.
When will PhiLOLies fans start begging to trade Realmuto?
bucketbrew35
Um probably never? He’s a true professional and is an asset when healthy. I love rooting for him as a player and a person.
Phillls
Overrated and overpaid. Going downhill fast. Bad re-signing.
When it was a game.
Let’s assume I’m right. Shouldn’t pitching coach say hey we have to get on same page here.
Bob333
PLEASE TRADE HIM HE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM
tbone0816
Come on Cardinals sign him for depth!!
Monkey’s Uncle
It might indeed have been an up and down tenure, but I sure seem to remember a lot more down than up.
BillGiles
Padres
solaris602
Book it. They just need bodies right now.
fred-3
Dodgers, Giants, Rays or Brewers will fix him
5TUNT1N
I know he’s never lived up to his potential but I’ve always kinda liked VV. Would love to see him as a buy low candidate for the giants. He throws hard maybe they can help him with his command and he can settle in.
Kiko Garcia
He did gun that guy down from left field once…
swinging wood
I remember he had a great start to 2016. Looking at his numbers, it looks like that was about it.
astrosfansince1974
Don’t understand why he was never tried as a reliever with his strikeout stuff. D24 is probably right.
VonPurpleHayes
He was tried as a reliever. It did not work out. Similar to his starting pitching career it started off nicely and quickly derailed.
JoeBrady
I’d give him a shot with the RS. He’s been in the league parts of 7 years. He has 37.1 IPs in relief. For all practical purposes, the Phillies never even tried him in relief. He probably wouldn’t be any good, but he has a lot of Ks.
VonPurpleHayes
Phillies tried him in relief for a stretch, but he started getting rocked immediately. And he went back to being a starter.
JoeBrady
VonPurpleHayes
Phillies tried him in relief for a stretch,
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Not really.
2018 1 IP
2019 10
2020 3
2021 5
That’s not really trying him in relief. Relief is like a real job. You need to figure out how to prepare yourself, which pitches to throw, etc.
VonPurpleHayes
@JoeBrady I hear what you’re saying. But 2019 was a failed experiment. He was getting killed in the pen. Did a bit of relief appearances in the minors as well. Also killed. Phillies couldn’t afford a longer term experiment, but some other teams may have that luxury.
ShawnMcCullough
Watch him go onto to be a lights out closer somewhere.
jjd002
Always thought that was going to be his role in Houston before the trade.
lindle368
He’s going to go to another team just like pavetta and start pitching well
bucketbrew35
Pivetta is still more of the same player as he always was. Mid 4’s FIP, high K rate, prone to shelling, 5 innings or less per start. He’s hardly lighting the world on fire.
AshamedMethGoat
Gonna be a Padre.
phillyballers
How’s the line go? When I die I want Velasquez to lower my casket so he can let me down one more time.
davemlaw
He’s from Cali so I could easily see him pitch for the Padres, Giants, Angels, A’s or Dodgers, in that order next year.
Dorothy_Mantooth
This guy has change of scenery success written all over him. He has quite a bit of talent; he just couldn’t stay consistent in Philly. He could very well end up being a solid bullpen option for another team. Who knows if anyone will pick him up for the remainder of Sept, but there will tons of minor league offers for him to choose from next season. Some team like the Giants or the Rays could spin him into gold.
VonPurpleHayes
Agreed. I’ve been saying this for years. He cannot pitch in Philly, but the stuff is there. Someone will fix him. He’ll never be a top-3 starter, but he has the potential to be a real solid bullpen piece, just not in Philly.
Sherm623
You hit the nail squarely on the head, @VPH.
“Someone will fix him.”
Too often fans think a guy just magically gets better after being traded or picked up, when it fact it frequently has to do with coaching. Teams pick up players they think they can fix. If they didn’t need fixing, they usually aren’t available.
Watch Velasquez end up with someone like Tampa
bpskelly
His ability to miss bats sucks you in, but when you look at all his numbers and peripherals he’s at best mediocre and at worst lucky to be in the league. And now, technically he won’t be.
Someone will take a flier on him. Although it might not be the rest of this season. He’s a bullpen piece at this point.
Dumpster Divin Theo
His ability to make bats
Orioles Fan
I expect either the Marlins or the Orioles will take a flyer on Vasquez.
Gwynning
Padres, please!
wmurphy24
Always thought he would see more success as a reliever. Never did well a couple times through the order.
When it was a game.
Bob Adaka time to do your magic like with Carlos zambrano
Peart of the game
Vince Velasquez looks like a potential NPB target. Expensive option but could dominate in the NPB as hitters aren’t quite used to his levels of velocity as a quasi starter save for Roki Sasaki, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Takahiro Norimoto, and the flamethrower Kodai Senga as Masahiro Tanaka only averages 92.5 MPH on his fastball.
imissjoebuzas
Vince Velasquez is not a good candidate for an NPB contract for a few reasons: 1) the ballparks there are smaller than Citizens Bank Park, and homer prone pitchers are not welcome 2) Vince’s walks per fame have been heading in the wrong direction regardless of his strikeout rates, and 3) the NPB teams will sacrifice a little velocity for the ability to get outs on balls in play and control, 4) Japanese hitters can hit the fastball, especially one that sits on the plate. That thinking of “speed paralyzes them” is from before the millenium.
It would be best for him to work out his issues here in the states where velocity ( as opposed to real pitching ability) still turns heads.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
The .500 Phils… predicted that since day 1.
TDM
Yes, it did seem like that for a while. I was hoping they’d sell at the trade deadline for whatever prospects because they seemed nothing more than a mediocre club. Segura would have been a nice chip. Bradley, Neris, although his stock was a little down at that time. Cutch, maybe Goofy. Dangle Hoskins to see if someone offered a great package in return. And who knows, maybe the team did put out feelers, but the offers were not very good. But, meh.
Let’s go Harper.
VonPurpleHayes
It seemed impossible that they would finish .500 at one point. They were trending up with an easy schedule. But of course the Phillies beat themselves and collapse under pressure. It’s Bryce Harper, Zack Wheeler and a bunch of guys who can’t hit, field or pitch.
imissjoebuzas
A major league team will sign Vince Velasquez. He is the Andrew Heaney of the Phillies: live arm and very homer prone. At this point, he cannot pitch in the post-season so he is not much use to a contender unless they are desperate. Some team could fix him, but as he is now, I’d wait until his free agency this off-season.
Bob333
THIS ORGANIZATION SUCKS.Good Riddens to Vinnie Velo who will sign with Oakland and win 15 games next year watch.This organization not only needs to clean out more of the front office slackers and scouts and minor league coaches.Im tired of hearing we are a family that is the problem.We need someone to stand up to ownership who by the way is a FRAUD and stop being cheap with signing draft picks.This organization reminds me of a 1million dollar home with the nice cars in the driveway and boat and when you look inside the home they are sitting on beach chairs and boxes for tables.STOP THE INSANITY
TDM
Well, at least Bryce Harper is sitting on one of the beach chairs, wearing Phanatic cleats, with his feet up on a box full of 32 homer hats.
MVP.
TDM
Should have kept him because of when he was drilled on his pitching arm with a line drive, recovered, and fired a bullet to first base with his left arm for an out, then collapsed on the ground in pain. That and 16Ks.
We don’t deserve VV.
jim stem
I’m sure he’ll end up with a team like Oakland or Tampa who will “suddenly” turn his career around.
jim stem
Not for nothing, but I’m a little surprised no one has discussed turning him into a Michael Lorenzen type of player. He sure looked comfortable when he played in left field field a little while ago.
Bob333
The pitching is BAD but the OFFENSE is worse every batter has 0-2 count and how do you get to the Major Leagues and not be able to hit a Fastball worst team in baseball hitting fastballs WTF
empirejim
Stay by the phone, Vince. I have no doubt the Padres will be calling as soon as you clear waivers.
htbnm57
Once again the Phillies play mediocre ball for
most of the year and then with Nola and the BP leading the way collapse in September. They are predictable, new faces with the same results.
Dennis Boyd
@htbnm57, collapse? Predictable, new faces with same results? Padres organization says, “hold my beer”
Bob333
Oraganization philosophy just a pure failure no matter who the player is or the manager is until major changes happen LOSERS forever
Bob333
More like PROLAPSE than a collapse and you see where Gabe is now with a bunch of has been pitching
Ron Tingley
Don’t think anyone has mentioned he had 2016 thoracic outlet syndrome/surgery. That’s after his first full season. He had an 4.15 and was up and down with control but when he was on, it looked like a bright future. Hasnt really been able to recapture who he was. Want a comp it would be Matt Harvey, although I think he can turn it around better than the Dark Night has
edcl54
Phillies are loaded with mediocrity and Vince was one. 3rd base , SS, 1st ,LF and CF are below average along with at least 3 starters and a bullpen. Manager isn’t very good either