Major League Baseball is requiring players to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to participate in the Arizona Fall League, reports Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic. It marks the first instance of an MLB vaccination mandate directly affecting players.
Last week, Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic reported that MLB was mandating vaccinations among non-playing team personnel in order for those individuals to be granted access to the field during postseason play. That requirement did not apply to players, as any sort of vaccine mandate for MLB players would need to be agreed upon with the Players Association. MLB can and has attempted to encourage vaccinations among big leaguers by loosening health and safety protocols for teams that fully vaccinate 85% of Tier 1 personnel.
The Arizona Fall League is an annual prospect showcase that takes place after the conclusion of the standard minor league season. It is operated by MLB. Teams send a contingent of players at various minor league levels to the AFL in order to log extra playing time. The caliber of player assigned to the league is also highly variable, but it’s not uncommon to see at least a few of the league’s most promising prospects participate.
It’s possible a few players on MLB 40-man rosters will be tabbed for Fall League action. Those players are members of the MLBPA, but Piecoro notes that the Fall League is generally treated as a minor league, making a MLB vaccination mandate for players permissible. That naturally raises the question whether MLB could consider a vaccination mandate for all affiliated minor leagues next season even if the MLBPA doesn’t agree to a mandate at the big league level. There’s no indication that’s presently the league’s intent, but one executive opined to Piecoro the AFL vaccine mandate might wind up being a precursor to similar measures for minor leaguers during next year’s Spring Training.
The players union should strike.
Minor league players don’t have a union.
The union only deals with major league players, not minor leaguers.
They absolutely should. It HAS to suck to make zillions of dollars to play a game and THEN be told you need to protect those around you.
Pretty sure prospects don’t make “zillions of dollars”.
Somebody told him they make zillions so he believes it to be true. Just like he believes we are in a deadly pandemic
@ars, or is it arse? What do you call it when 675k Americans have died due to this virus? Did Q tell you this is not a deadly pandemic?
I suppose the earth is flat and climate change is a myth as well?
Out of those 675k deaths, how many of them were caused solely on Covid?
pirateking24 that argument has been debunked ten thousand times. It’s like saying Kennedy didn’t die from a bullet because the death certificate listed massive head trauma.
Go tour a hospital, anywhere in the US, and tell me everything is normal.
Please give me a list of hospitals open for tours.
Heck yeah the earth is flat, that explains why we’re all on edge….
@giantsphan12 What do you call it when it’s a shot that doesn’t keep you from getting and/or transmitting COVID, only lessens the symptoms per the claims. Why doesn’t everyone need to be tested? I’ve known more people that have gotten “vaccinated” and came down with COVID than those that have not gotten the shot. But even if you’re of the belief that this is a vaccine and it keeps you from getting COVID, then what do you care if someone else gets the “vaccine”? You’re protected right???
People who got vaccinated are probably more careless about other preventative measures than the unvaccinated.
@Ted…although the death toll IS high, the numbers have been inflated. I work for a hospital as a respiratory therapist, we ARE getting our butts kicked from the unvaccinated and some vaccinated also, but facts are facts. We had a terminal patient that came in, passed away. His family is suing the hospital for his death certificate stating covid when it was cancer. Florida had 15k patients die from other illnesses that were labeled covid deaths and they had to fix that count as recently as a month ago.
Balk please provide the name and case number of this so-calked lawsuit. In fact it Florida has underreported COVID deaths.
Protect what???… you can still spread and get the “virus” after being fully vaccinated… #wakeup
I personally know multiple LAPD officers that’s have had LA County coroner state that they are false labeling cause of death as COVID when it was absolutely not related. Wake up, turn off all the zionist propaganda and realize COVID is communism
@Dodger1958..I misspoke about it being a lawsuit, but in fact was a correction CDC had to make for over counting number of cases. They did correct it. Here’s the deal…hospitals get paid $13k for a covid patient and $30k if patients go on vents. When it comes to cause of death, they have to only assume that covid played a roll not necessarily be the number 1 factor to label the death as covid to get that money, which equals BS! Terminal patients that were on death bed who contact covid while hospitalized get labeled as covid death.
deseret.com/u-s-world/2021/8/11/22619946/cdc-chang…
@dodger1958…also I don’t believe for one second Florida or any state is undercounting anything. It’s the hospital and Dr/physicians that have to report time of death and reason. It has to corroborate with coroner then gets filed with CDC.
Zionist propaganda? Bigot much?
Facts are facts. Don’t be so out of touch! your in your own virtual reality. You may be entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts! SMH
@Dodger1958…I hear you say Zionist propaganda, and bigotry. Are you one of those people who blame everything on racism? I should’ve known not to try and have a civil conversation with a person who’s probably from la
Balk that was in response to LABaseball not you.
Here is what LABaseball said (above): “ I personally know multiple LAPD officers ……false labeling COVIID when it was absolutely not related. Wake up, turn off Zionist propaganda and realize that COVID is communism.”
@dodger…my bad, I don’t know about this virus being into politics. It knows one thing…kill.
What’s your preferred format? Pdf, excel, googledoc, etc.
The players who play in the Arizona Fall League don’t make zillions of dollars & are not under the MLBPA Umbrella of Representation
These young kids have a vaccine mandate for the Arizona Fall League. What about the St Louis Cardinals? Half of their staff is in the AARP.
And going to the playoffs. How about them buccos?
The MLBPA has no ability to fight for the players in the Arizona Fall League or in the Minor Leagues since the MLBPA doesn’t represent the players who play in the Minor Leagues or in the Arizona Fall League
That’s great, ruin more stuff because you’re afraid of a needle.
screw the vaccine mandates.
Screw yourselves. Get COVID, stay isolated, because anything less is literally hurting others.
The problem is the “I’m Billy Badass the Freedom Guy” people aren’t willing to fully commit to their cause. They claim to hate vaccines, government, blah blah blah, but then they get sick and go running to the hospital right away, usually begging for the vaccine.
I don’t think giving a vaccine to someone who already has COVID would help.
And you know this how?
Thisistheyear funny because my boss went to a vaxed only concert with his daughter and contracted Covid-19 both he and his daughter. The logic is astounding that people choosing to not vax are the problem when the bigger issue is the vax not protecting anyone from the virus it’s designed for. Cases are up 10 fold in states with highest vax rates both in deaths and number of cases. Use your head
@slide, ok, don’t get vaxxed. Fine. But for the good of your neighbors, the kids in your community who can’t yet get vaxxed, and your fellow citizens in general, get tested on a regular basis so you don’t inadvertently spread it to others who may get very sick, or worse.
Lol, covid is an excuse for being unhealthy slobs. No actual healthy, young people are getting sick. Sheep. Follow the leader idiots.
Tatsumaki
Did you have a point?
Calcetines did you? Vax doesn’t work, sorry you don’t use critical thinking to realize this.
“BeCaUsE aNtI-vAxErS wOnT gEt VaX, tHe VaX wOnT wOrK”
Huh?!
Not true. 10x. BS.
You sound like an echo chamber of Fox CNN or any other Zionist’s owned propaganda machine. Try undertaking ten minutes of some independent research it’s sure to blow your mind.
Yup
Triggered liberal snowflakes inbound
You’re replying to a triggered right wing snowflake comment
There is no difference between right and left wing… same Zionist occupied government
I’m glad that mlbtr opened up the comments section to allow a platform for this kind of discourse. Very healthy and many minds will be changed
I like it. Now I know who to mute.
Music to my ears. Thank you baseball Gods
WTF?
Hopefully every company starts mandating vaccines. Time to end this pandemic and stop catering to the dangerous irrational minority i.e. the antivaxxers.
You are being racist. BIPOC are smart enough to see past your BS. Gonna inject our future stars with syphilis again?
Blacks and Hispanics are the least vaccinated lmao.
Pandemic won’t end btw. Covid has animal reservoirs. There is no end. Small pox, measles, and polio only infect humans. Covid flu cold infect humans and animals.
Dr. Faith in the Padres everyone!
PA*
Does someone give you a dollar every time you say the phrase “animal reservoirs?”
Nope. Wish they did. Probably be a millionaire by now after explaining that comparing viruses and vaccines that only infect humans to covid doesn’t make much sense this many times. You’d think the “trust the science” crowd would know this.
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/4/20-3945_article#:~:….
Just to be clear here. Earlier you said you don’t trust the CDC, now you use the CDC as a source. Just trying to understand here.
Articles about animal reservoirs.
Not any scientific advice from the cdc. I chose this article cause it’s actually pretty funny if you read it.
Wanna try again RaysAllDay? Helps if you read the article.
They explicitly mention your cat and dog are animal reservoir for coronaviruses.
You gonna start vaccinating your pets so they can’t spread the virus to you? Wouldn’t put it past you to do so.
“Companion animals, specifically dogs and cats, are among the most commonly infected groups of animals in the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. Natural cases of suspected human-to-animal transmission have been confirmed in dogs and cats from several countries, and the earliest reports date back to March 2020 in Hong Kong (32). As of January 2021, there are ≈100 confirmed cases of SARS-CoV-2 infections in dogs and cats in the United States; most of those cases resulted from exposure to owners who had COVID-19”
So why aren’t you vaccinating your animals against covid19 RaysAllDay?
You completely missed my point, or maybe just avoided it.
I asked about the dissonance of your distrust of the CDC while subscribing to something else from said CDC. So the content really is immaterial to my question, which was regarding your own comment about refusing to trust the entity which you later use as a source of truth.
1. I never said I trusted the cdc in my post where I linked the article.
2. I linked the article to see if ppl would actually read it. You didn’t read it clearly. If you did you’d probably laugh at the CDC saying “hey your dog and cat can infect you with covid 19!” No seriously that’s the entire point theyre making from April 2021. Your dog and cat can catch and spread covid serving as animal reservoirs. That’s it. That’s the message put out there by the CDC. Your dog and cat are the biggest animal threats to you if you’re vaccinated as vaccinated people can catch and spread covid.
3. I wouldn’t put it past pharmaceutical companies and government agencies being paid to tell people vaccinate your pets against covid 19 next. And people in this thread would. That’s the sad part.
Faith in poll taken in late August of this year it was determined that far more (%) Blacks and Latinos have been vaccinated than those who voted for Trump. By a wide margin.
Cool. According to different reports.
59% have received at least 1 shot as of September 2021.
~60% white
~10% black
~5% Asian
~20% Hispanic
~5% other
What is even more cool is that a poll taken on or about August 24, 201.
69% claim to have been vaccinated,
White 66%
Black 76%
Latino 71%
Dem 88%
Republican 55%
Cool indeed.
Which specific poll was that Faith. Date and name of organization.I will Google. Trust but verify.
Oh a poll. Well clearly a poll is more accurate than reported numbers.
How many people were polled dodger? Got a link to the poll?
Those are the supposedly reported numbers. It’s not from polls. Those are the numbers being sent in from people taking the vax. Hence the 59% have had at least 1 shot. Like always numbers are off when you have a mass quantity of reporting.
So where’s your link?
Sorry misread the category. Race/ethnicity known for 59% of people who’ve had at least 1 shot.
Defining people by race in any situation is dicey. Because it totally relates to how one defines themselves. Is Obama black or white? His mom was white and his black? Is Penelope Cruz (Spanish) white or Hispanic?
In any event, poll after poll after poll has found a huge disparity between whether Democrats or Republicans remain unvaccinated. The number of unvaccinated are disproportionately Republican.
Right.
And actual numbers being reported to health agencies and being tracked say
~60% of people who’ve had at least 1 shot we know the race and that number is primarily white people.
You can poll as many people as you like. Polls aren’t hard data. They’re guesses based on how people respond, assuming they answered truthfully and didn’t take a poll more than once. Cause everyone knows nobody lies on polls.
Lol get a life hopefully the country stops giving unemployment to everyone. You gotta be the dumbest person on this whole thread. ‘The antivaxxers’. Might as well hate minorities like african americans too,
…glad you’ve taken the jab it’s quite evident your lineage should end.
If Manfred does anything right it will be to mandate a vaccine and ban anyone who doesn’t comply from the game for life.
#wiffleball You sound like a far left clown. Typical Democrat hates Americans
Americans hate themselves bro. That’s why they let big business run over them while saying “thank you Sir.”
How is favoring getting everyone vaccinated hating Americans? What is even the logic there
Can we ban you from here for life?
Does your wiffleball league mandate them?
Wtf…
Ol’ Robbie is slowly edging forward – heads-up.
Ahhh yes. Freedom of choice out the window. idc which side you’re on, the fact that people are being forced to put things into their body they don’t want, will indeed lead to 1861-1865.2.0
Why aren’t there more people who understand this?
I came back to check how my troll comments were doing but unironically I agree with you. In a free society, all you need is to say “no.” If you can’t do that, then you’re not free. One half likes their choices being stripped–part of why they have disdain for capitalism: there’s too many options–but the others will defend their freedoms to the death.
A peaceful divorce that breaks the union into states or regions like the EU and returns federal control to the Articles of Confederation days is preferable, with the feds providing common defense and protecting freedoms when state/regional rights are violated.
As a wise man once said, “I don’t want to change your mind, but I don’t want to share a country with you either.”
Yeah, that’s going to be super successful fighting existential threats like climate change. Let’s decentralize and return power to a federation of small states. That’ll solve big problems for sure. *eyeroll*
We don’t hate capitalism. We just see problems with it and recognize that individuals make bad choices when they are acting in their own self interest. The invisible hand of the market isn’t always right. Sometimes scientists, doctors, engineers, and researchers know better than you do. It’s not 1770 anymore.
Social Dilemma illustrates this well too. The media is dividing us!
Funny how we have so many mandated vaccines right now for children to be able to go to school, but now people have a problem with mandating a vaccine.
You are comparing vaccines that have been around for decades versus one that’s been around for a year?
You mean required vaccines for human viruses?
How come the cold and flu vaccine aren’t required every year and how come you don’t get vaccinated every year from the ones required by school?
Hint: there is a correct answer why you aren’t vaccinated for polio small pox measles every year but are offered a vaccine for flu and cold every year.
Animal reservoirs – right, right?
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/4/20-3945_article#:~:….
Thank you, MasterShake!
“How come the cold and flu vaccine aren’t required every year and how come you don’t get vaccinated every year from the ones required by school?”
This has been answered time and time again since over a year ago. Covid is a novel coronavirus, and science is ongoing, so knowledge evolves as we learn more.
Since it’s novel, a vaccine was not in production. Vaccines have since been produced and approved by the FDA. Since it’s novel and there are many unknown regarding it, including multiple mutations, and it is more serious that a typical cold or flu, vaccines are being mandated because we don’t currently have a virtually foolproof way of mitigating the effects of infection. Perhaps once it’s in check, vaccines might not be a requirement, just like the flu vaccine is not.
Let’s not pretend this is something that has been around and understood for decades. Science is learning as it goes.
And you’re supposedly a medical professional. Do you also suggest horse dewormer to patients? How about Hydroxychloroquine?
Cardsfanatik redux were you a drama major in college? Or is it just a hobby?
@cards, no one is being forced to do anything include getting the vaccine. The Biden admin’s mandates offer a once-per-week test instead of getting the Jab if that is what someone chooses.
People have choices! No one is being forced.
No it doesn’t. There is no option to test out of the federal mandate for federal employees and contractors (which is good IMO).
whether or valid or not, the striking against minors players because they don’t have a Union is not a great look.
And if one or more died of Covid complications because vaccines were not mandated, the optics would be worse. Sometimes optics don’t matter when the right things need to be done.
Jodi O’Malley
There goes baseball!
Probably not a great idea to open the comments for this one MLBTR.
Feel free to read the article and ignore the comment section.
Why are so many people onboard with limiting conversations these days?
Those who want their opinions fed to them on a platter
And yet here you are taking advantage of the space to share your opinion.
Everybody knows the most logical scientific discourse comes from anonymous commenters on a sports website. This should get good.
Forget science for a second. Just focus on the ethical.
If you get the shot your employer, vaccine companies, and federal/state government aren’t liable if you have complications.
It’s safe for you. But you can’t sue us in case it’s not.
Why is nobody liable?
The CDC found 175 cases of complications for 1.1 million shots given. Only 21 of them were discovered to be negative reactions due to the first dose of the vaccine. Of those cases almost all had had previous history of allergic reactions from similar medications. For the record that is a 0.0019% chance of something going wrong.
You can look it up to verify if you don’t believe me. You can claim conspiracy and cover up if you don’t believe the CDC. This is the internet, heavens know I can’t stop someone from choosing what to believe.
I just don’t get the argument of liability when stacked against public health and actually for that matter personal health.
Per the article that was in the link from Faith in the Padres, it hasn’t been definitive that the cases were all caused by the vaccine (a bit too coincidental though). And the stats Sabermetric Acolyte was quoting were old as there have been over 386 million shots given in the US. But percentage-wise, probably close to the same.
As I’ve stated before. Hospitals aren’t reporting all instances of people developing complications.
Just like recent reports came out saying we’ve had possibly double the number of covid cases than have been reported you’ll start seeing more reports come out saying hospitals haven’t been reporting all complications.
You already are seeing reports coming out about under reporting.
Idk about you but I’m not fond of government agencies constantly lying and people not being transparent. Guaranteed way to build distrust.
I would love more accurate data, it would make more people trust in the science.
Vaccine side effects are not new, even with vaccines that are “required” for public health. In the past, “about 1,000 people for every 1 million people vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine for the first time experienced reactions that, while not life-threatening, were serious.”
The sad thing about Covid is that it could of, and should of, been contained early on. But this is the age of social media, divisive politics, and a serious mistrust overall.
Vaccine complications aren’t new. You’re correct.
What is new is nobody is liable if you develop complications.
Even if you’re assuming the .002% is accurate, its not cause underreported happens, that’s 7,000 people who have no means to seek damages.
Even at 1,000 per 1 mill people thatd be 330,000 people who’d have no means to seek damages for something they were forced into taking either through government mandate if military or job requirement.
Nobody is liable. That’s a huge red flag.
Yet 330k is still less than the amount of US Covid deaths by over half.
Lol “Guaranteed way to build distrust.” God you people are adorable.
You might be fine with your wife/girlfriend and the experts lying to you blancos. Everyone else that has standards typically say lying isn’t a good thing.
Sure man. She’s just friends with him. Good luck.
I muted the troll account, and the sources you provided (thanks for those btw) disappeared as well, probably because they were in the same thread.
I did access the WaPo article before I muted them, though. Nothing in that article remotely indicates that migrants are released into the US unvaccinated, or at all. I’m not really understanding what argument that one in particular substantiated?
You expect these people to read the articles they share? You must be one of those “optimist” types lol.
Faith-
Is your wife friends with John Redcorn too?
The vaccine liability shield law has been on th books for awhile.
Oh you wanted proof of illegals escaping custody into the USA?
Thought you wanted proof they weren’t being vaccinated.
Here you go. Back in April border patrol they estimated 1,000 people a day were sneaking in not apprehended.
washingtonpost.com/national/got-aways-border/2021/…
The troll poster said immigrants were being released into the US, unvaccinated. I asked for sources about that. The WaPo article you found mentioned nothing about that. Guessing you hadn’t read that before posting the link. I can read the next one you linked, but that isn’t really regarding the topic and reflects your bias.
Right. So we’ve gone from
You were wrong about them being vaccinated.
You were wrong about them not entering the country undetected evading border patrol
And you think you won’t be wrong about them being released and sent to other parts of the country?
Report came out July 2021 50,000 illegals were set free. This was before Biden in August 2021 said he’d ramp up vaccinations for illegals with few being vaccinated. No court date. And they’ve only heard from 13%
news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-released-50-000-19335…
“Right. So we’ve gone from
You were wrong about them being vaccinated.
You were wrong about them not entering the country undetected evading border patrol”
Reread my comments, multiples. You clearly are misunderstanding.
The other poster, whom I muted, said (paraphrasing) that illegal immigrants were being released into the US unvaccinated.
The WaPo source that you provided did not state that at all. That’s all I was saying.
“And you think you won’t be wrong about them being released and sent to other parts of the country?
Report came out July 2021 50,000 illegals were set free. This was before Biden in August 2021 said he’d ramp up vaccinations for illegals with few being vaccinated. No court date. And they’ve only heard from 13%
news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-released-50-000-19335…”
So this is concerning. What’s more concerning to me, though, is that I located the original article on Axios (via your Yahoo source, thanks for that), which did not mention whether or not the migrants were even tested, much less vaccinated. That’s criticL information which is omitted, leaving us to fill in the blanks (which we will generally do with our biases). The Axios piece should have been more complete for sure.
Story #1 – 50,000 illegals set free – axios, yahoo. Whoever wrote it July 2021 and prior. Illegals were set free.
Story #2 – Officials admit per wapo vast majority of illegals have gone unvaccinated with few being held in long term facilities being vaccinated. Biden plans to increase vaccinations after 50,000 were set free February 21, March 21, April 21, May 21, June 21. Whenever they were set free.
Right. All 50,000 were vaccinated and set free. Sure man. The overwhelmed border patrol agents that set people free without court dates cause they are overwhelmed and over crowded made sure those who were released got both vaccines before releasing them uh huh. Sure.
There was no information regarding vaccines OR TESTING in the source you provided. Test results obviously don’t take long, and could have been feasible though I agree that vaccines likely weren’t administered. I find it difficult to understand why border patrol would simply release unknowns into the US because they were overwhelmed, when they could have been released in the other direction.
There was information about vaccination status of illegals including the 50,000 that were released prior to Bidens new mandate in August 2021 in the OTHER article
“Until now [August 2021], only a limited number of migrants have received vaccine while held in longer-term U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facilities.”
washingtonpost.com/national/biden-vaccines-migrant…
From the article:
“Vaccine would be provided to those facing deportation as well as migrants likely to be released into the United States pending a court hearing, said one of the two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the tentative plan. Migrants who are quickly sent back to Mexico under the Title 42 public health law would not be offered a dose, at least during the initial phase, the person said.”
The article also does not say that those not given a vaccine were released into the US, only that some were given to those in detention facilities.
You derive what you want out of it, which is a lot of presumption. Just like the majority of your posts. A lot of conjecture, not much evidence. So believe what you want instead of simply accepting the facts on their face, if it supports your bias.
Love it, flush out the anti vax crowd
Just require them for all players period.
The interesting thing is what happens if they make all minor leaguers get the vaccine next year. Can MLB players who are unvaccinated play in rehab games?
It will likely apply only to players who are not protected by the union. All players on 40-man rosters have union protection so there will still be unvaccinated players playing in the minors. However, my guess is the total number of unvaccinated players playing in the minors ok 40-man rosters will be VERY low. I don’t know for sure but I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of MLB players have chosen to be vaccinated.
“Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
WTF is that?
You’re in MLBTR timeout.
My girlfriend has a PhD and is a biologist. She trusts the science behind vaccines. So I think I’m going to trust my girlfriend on this one – not some Republican with a GED who spells “lose,” “loose.”
That’s a interesting take. Assumption of Republicans having only a GED diploma. Thanks. I needed a laugh.
Google “Lauren Boebert,” and then check out the grand educations of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. I think you’ll surprise yourself.
Lighten up Fred.
Ferd,
Stereotypes are real timesavers.
Blast the misinformation crowd. Calling a tiny needle poke a jab.
Flush out the anti vaxxers
It’s funny you should say this. I know anti-vaxers are 100 percent about action. When the war happens we know where you’ll be and it’s not on the battlefield. Coward
This has the government’s name written all over it.
Dale Gribble is this you?
no one knows the truth. we’re not all in this together, you’re own your own.
Great idea keeping the comment section open, what did Steve Adams thing this was a good idea? What a joke.
I’m surprised and a bit disappointed the comment section was left open for this article. This discourse has seeped its way into every corner of my mediasphere now. Might be time to stick to books.
It’s the recipe now for this site. Post a Covid article. Watch the comment section turn into an absolute disaster. Then remove the comments that don’t conform to the writers beliefs. I’m not making this up either. I’ve had comments removed that in no way were disrespectful, or hateful, or FALSE, but they don’t line up to their propaganda. Shameful behavior frankly. America and American rights are crumbling, and people like these writers are playing their part in censorship, and the dumbing down of society. Just follow orders and shut up. Germany did the same thing in the late 30s and 40s. They had this crazy leader guy. I forget his name.
@Zach. Yep 159 comments 9am 9/21. Check back in a day or hours when half are left. I say let it fly and if you can’t handle it avoid the comment section. I’ve never muted anyone and don’t plan on it.
@Raff. About 70 got deleted around 9:20am.
How could anyone conflate the management of a comments section on an innocuous web site to Nazi Germany?
I just want to make sure I understand you here.
“You may be ok being a human guinea pig with 0 long term data. Rest of aren’t.” Then, you add, “You’re also ignoring studies saying people who have covid have longer and stronger immunity than the Vax provides.”
So according to you, the vaccine has 0 long term data, but the studies of the immune systems of those who acquired Covid does? What constitutes long term data to you?
I support the vaccine but forcing it upon someone to play baseball. Who are we now? Yes yes blah blah.. facts this and facts that. My thoughts are what if the player already has tested positive? He still needs to be vaccinated? We are all frogs in a slow pot of boiling water. If it was boiling when we got in, we would just jump out. Get in line
Don’t you hate pants?
I was told as a child I had to wear pants to play in the playground. It wasn’t fun because I played hard and shorts was the way to go.
Wayhayzee says shut up and get the damn shot. Ok comrade, again NOT against vaccines but there is something that was created called HIPPA. I don’t want to walk in room and have some guy like you have the right to ask me for my vaccine card. I never said I’m not vaccinated either right? Look at the premeditated hate.
Before we get political. New Vaccine technology (minus J&J). Was approved for emergency use and FDA has only approved one so far. Different vaccines being used by different countries. Brazil has their own I believe. Like anything you put into the human body, every human takes on the chances of allergic reactions and health complications. Or take it and receive %70 protection from an avoidable slow suffocating death with compromised health.
Again I’m not a YouTube doctor, but my initial comment was over looked. What if someone has had Corona virus? Would they not have more immunity than someone with the vaccine. I thought you can trace back the antibodies? Do they get a card for that?
Dodgers1958fan says it’s the cousin of the flu and is mutating. Sir we use facts and science every year on what mutation flu strain will be out. Yet it’s still an educated guess and doesn’t mean you won’t get the “flu”. Don’t stand outside your Beverly hills pharmacy with your signs.
I kid, I kid, go Dodgers!
Oh before I’m contacted by a lawyer. Pretty sure HIPPA doesn’t protect you from vaccine privacy. Like so your employer, like MLB, can require it or you gone! Oh and Guillian Bare isn’t fun so at least we’re not at risk of that, we’ll unless you went the J&J route like were long in the tooth eh?
Ron my friend it is HIPAA (by the way) which has nothing to do with vaccine mandates. Asking for your card has nothing to do with HIPAA.
As to your comment about antibodies following a COVID infection, the science seems to indicate no.
Is a hippa a female hippo?
Zing. Got me boys
Seems no one is really sure. Even the CDC.
Some antibodies made for the virus that causes COVID-19 provide protection from getting infected. CDC is evaluating antibody protection and how long protection from antibodies might last. Cases of reinfection and infection after vaccination have been reported, but remain rare. But getting vaccinated, even if you have already had COVID-19, can help your body make more of these antibodies.
I’d be legitimately curious to hear an answer to this question from the “it’s my body and the government can’t tell me what to do with it” people…
Why is heroin illegal?
Because it can kill you? Because people on heroin can be dangerous to other people in public? Because Bill Gates wants to control you? Why?
Why can the government take away this “freedom”?
Agreed. What many people refuse to acknowledge in the name of “freedumb” is this an extremely dangerous pandemic. 675,000 dead to date (and the body count continues to climb), hundreds of thousands with known, on-going serious medical complications (many of which will likely be permanent), and G-d only knows how many will suffer serious health issues in the future.
The coronavirus is a “cousin’ to the flu and cold. Unlike serious viruses such as measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, polio, the COVID 19 virus continues to mutate. This makes both treatment and eradication complex and challenging. This doesn’t mean that the vaccines are experimental (in fact the Pfizer vaccine has been fully vetted and approved, Modena to follow shortly), it means that it is a continuing battle which science must be able to deal with. The fear by many experts is that as the virus mutates an even more deadly variant will arise. One which the current vaccines are not effective, and/or one which will cling to surfaces and last hours or days and cannot effectively be cleaned with disinfectants.
The longer people refuse to vaccinate the longer the current variants will continue to mutate.
There is little to no verifiable scientific evidence that the vaccine is dangerous. In fact, the evidence is to the contrary. Anti vaxxers have existed long before the onset of COVID 19. There is no constitutional [at least in the US Constitution] right to refuse a vaccine. This has been well established for well over a century.
How do you feel about banning alcohol? How may innocent lives have been lost due to drunk driving?
Cigarette smoke?
Unborn children?
You’re on board with banning these things, right? Because we want to save lives.
We tried that already genius. Open a book once in awhile lol.
@Dodger, so true on every point. Thank you!
Waaaaaaaah. Freedom.
Get the damn shot and shut up.
Bunch of babies.
If this is the worst thing you are ever TOLD to do in this country, you live in the freest country in the world.
By far.
It really is beyond astounding what Americans WILL put up with without a peep, and then what they will not put up with, such as a vaccine lol.
Sounds like you’re the baby.
I’m not whining. If you want to live your life based on what politicians and media tells you is best for you, go ahead. I’ll make my own rational decisions.
Kidd tell me what your knowledge, skill, training, formal education and experience is in order for you to make your (alleged) “rational” decisions on whether to be be vaccinated or not. Your posts clearly reflect a significant political and media slant [which you seem to claim not to posses].
Why don’t you what your specific sources of information are which enable you to formulate your (so-called) “own” “rational decisions”.
It doesn’t matter what info I produce for you. It doesn’t really matter to you about my background. If you cannot see what politicians have done to this country, especially in the recent past, you’ll never understand how I come to my conclusions. Yes, I am very conservative and a Christain. I’m sure many of you would hate me based on my beliefs. But that’s beside the point. I refuse to take any advice from politicians and media, especially when they start trying to force it down my throat. Yes, I have very little respect for liberals, because everything they touch turns to crap. But mostly it’s discernment. So whether I have a PHD or I work at the local diner, I can figure things out for myself. And I try to point out liberal hypocrisy every chance I get.
Contrary to what you say you were not born with an innate understanding of the COVID 19 or the vaccines. Your understanding, if any, of the disease and the vaccine is based upon what you have been told, seen or read. So you don’t think for yourself. Contrary to what you claim, your view is bead upon
by what your religious leaders tell to believe, what your “very conservative” sources of information tell you believe and what your favoured politicians spew out. You in fact parrot what right media and politicians say almost in a formalistic manner. But you clearly don’t even see that.
So your knowledge, skill, training, formal education, and experience greatly influence how your are able (or unable) to filter out the messages you receive and actual formulate a factually based decision on whether to take the vaccine or not. Nothing you have posted remotely suggests a factual understanding of the science of the disease or the vaccine. Nor the background to even be able to do so.
The only hypocrisy I see here is that of a very conservative Christian.,
“Yes, I am very conservative and a Christain.”
I agree; you are indeed a stain lol.
So crude. I can definitely discern that you are no psychiatrist. Insult me based on my beliefs. I don’t care. You’re actually outing yourself as a typical liberal who thinks you know better than anyone else.
Side note- why do you think the left, including the media, discredited any type of treatment besides ventilators and the ‘vaccine’? Follow the money
A conservative Christian who is not interested in conserving human life? How interesting. It is an unequivocal fact that a fully vaccinated country will mean less people die. Less arguable than the existence of God. But you stick to your principles, whatever they are.
Hey Kidd the vaccine is not a form of treatment. And the left follows science not the right who relies on prayer and thoughts for the their decisions. You are so programmed that you are unable to think for yourself. Treatments are only treatments if they are tested, effective and safe for the application.
The funny part is that I actually don’t consider myself a liberal, but I can see that you’re one of those cranky pants old people (or cranky and old in spirit) that need things easy, so I’m fine with you telling yourself whatever you need to lol.
The left follow political science, which is nothing more than cherry picking certain data so it will align with their narratives. And you accept everything they say and follow it like a puppy on a string.
Yes I am pro life. Did I state anywhere that I am against vaccines? I am strongly against forcing a person to choose between livelihood and a political vaccine. If you want it, get it. But mind your business.
If you were pro life you’d be pro vaccine.
“The left follow political science”
My god your ignorance is simply amazing. I suggest you google the definition of political science, as it actually is a thing and it has nothing to do with biological science.
After that I suggest you leave yourself out of discussions like this. What’s the quote that pertains here? It’s better to have others believe you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt?
There is NO left/right it’s a Zionist uni-party….. watch “Europa the Last Battle”
Says who? People are dying from the vax… it’s reported directly on the CDC VAER’s section…
@kidd Yet, I’m sure and guessing you have no problem with trying to “shove your Christain beliefs down the throat of others” when given the opportunity correct?
“And you accept everything they say and follow it like a puppy on a string.” @kidd Says the “Christian Republican” who marches in lockstep with the rest of the mango Mussolini cult.
Too bad ignorance isn’t painful!
LAbasebsll, how many dozens have died from the vaccine and how many resulting from COVID?
I wonder if they’ll mandate proof of vaccination for fans?
@talking, I wish they would require proof of vaccines for fans. I have multiple chronic conditions since childhood, and, I’d love to go to a few Giants games while they’re in the great run. But, it feels too risky in a mixed crowd with presumably lots of unvaxxed fans!
I wish they’d just separate the vax from the unvax so I can spit spitballs at the vax section all game long. It’s a shame our wishes don’t matter.
And that’s why the corrupt system has “system tools” like professional sports to keep low IQer’s like yourself distracted and ignorant…..thank you for proving this!!
Sheep, Sheep, Sheep. MLB loves making political decisions.
The only sheep are those such as yourself who believe everything the Internet conspiracists have to say and have not a single original thought. All you can do is regurgitate what you’ve been told to say by….get this…politicians and their proxy. Sad. Really.
I bet at the outset of the pandemic you were one of the millions
Nah, that’s just a troll account. It’s fun to mute those.
Right. The big pharmaceutical, big corporations, federal government lap dogs are the truth seekers lmao.
Believe it or not. People are allowed to ask questions. There are good questions not being answered.
Here’s a few
1. Why aren’t vaccinated people being tested as regularly/often or mandated to be tested when they can catch and spread covid? If we are worried about cases why isnt testing weekly mandatory for the vaccinated to quarantine?
2. Why do kids need the vaccine? More kids died in 2018 and 2019 0-17 from the flu than they have from covid in 21 going on 22 months, almost double the amount of time.
3. Why were George Floyd riots allowed in 2020 during a pandemic?
4. Why do these covid mandates and rules never apply to politicians? The mayor of SF can go out maskless cause she was feeling the spirit but you need to follow her guidelines or else.
5. Why aren’t drug companies the government your boss liable for vaccine complications? Companies are liable if they produce bad batches like the ones Japan got…..except these companies are under EAU until 2023 when the trials end and not liable currently. They’ll become liable once they lose EAU. To my knowledge 0 people have been able to use VICP for covid vaccines
hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html
1. For the most part those vaccinated comply with distancing, masking and social gathering. Those who remain unvaccinated at this point have made, in most instances, a conscious decision, not to do so.
2. Kids can still die, albeit it is rare. What the long term effects on children are unknown. Unvaccinated children can still get sick and spread the disease.
3. For the same reason that Trump inspired insurrection of 1-6 happened.
4. COVID mandates do apply to everyone. Millions of people flaunt them politicians and no politicians alike. Like 45 who had to do a victory lap in an auto exposing several secret service members.
5. Because the government has decided to create preemptive laws shielding all forms of manufacturers from liability for their products like drug companies, auto and aircraft manufacturers and the list goes on.
1- you are an idiot
2- you are an idiot
3- you are an idiot
4- you are an idiot
5- you have been programmed well you damn idiot
LAbaseball. You’re a flaming bigot and antisemite. Zionist propaganda?
@la Your #1-5 Too bad ignorance isn’t painful!
I and some of my vaccinated friends have often wondered lately if “a thinning of the herd” might actually be a good thing or good riddance? It’s a shame we have even that thought cross our minds. Because it’s against our values and the way we were raised.
1. No they’re not. Vaccinated people were literally told by Biden you don’t have to wear a mask if you’re vaccinated. Biden also told them you can’t get covid if you’re vaccinated. In fact. Any time some one is caught violating mandates the vax crowd always says “they’re vaccinated”. They aren’t following mask requirements that have been put back in place.
2.
Unknown side effects of covid vs Unknown side effects of vaccine and booster shots. So why are we pushing vaccines on kids when it isn’t necessary as they are the least vulnerable group?
3. That the insurrection the fbi came out and said it wasn’t pre-planned as in just people got out of control? That also the one where they refuse to released the 14,000 hours of video footage for some odd reason.
4. No. Covid mandates haven’t applied to everyone. Businesses who violated covid mandates and people were fine some even arrested. Name me 1 politician that was arrested for violating covid rules. Just 1. I can name a few people who got fines and were punished by the states.
5. Just because they have done so doesn’t make it ethically or morally right. If the government is mandating vaccines someone needs to be held liable in the event something happens. Plain and simple.