Red Sox Chris Sale has tested positive for Covid-19 and will not make his scheduled start Sunday, per Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com (via Twitter). He’ll be placed on the Covid-19-related injured list, joining eight other Red Sox players who have either tested positive or are in protocol due to the recent team outbreak in Boston.
Major League Baseball’s health-and-safety protocols for the 2021 season stipulate that Sale will be away from the club for at least 10 days, further straining a rotation that has been heavily impacted by the team’s outbreak. Both Nick Pivetta and Martin Perez are currently on the Covid-related injured list, which has prompted recent starts from Kutter Crawford and Brad Peacock. Perez has been on the IL since Aug. 30 and could be nearing a return, and the Sox also currently have Eduardo Rodriguez, Nathan Eovaldi and Tanner Houck in the rotation. The Boston Globe’s Peter Abraham further reports that it’s also possible Pivetta could be activated to make Sale’s start Sunday.
The 32-year-old Sale missed the bulk of the 2021 season as he worked his way back from Tommy John surgery but has been excellent in five starts since rejoining the team. He’s yet to pitch beyond the sixth inning but carries a 2.52 ERA with a 27.5 percent strikeout rate and 5.5 walk percent rate — both quite strong marks — in his first 25 innings since being activated.
The Red Sox have a fairly tenuous hold on the top Wild Card spot in the American League, leading the Yankees by a margin of just one game. Three more teams — Toronto, Seattle and Oakland — are within two games of that second Wild Card spot and within three games of Boston’s top spot. The Sox have managed to remain in competition despite an outbreak that has seen 10 players test positive since late August.
Sale’s positive test comes less than 24 hours after Red Sox right fielder Hunter Renfroe controversially claimed in a WEEI radio appearance with Lou Merloni and Christian Fauria that Major League Baseball had told the Red Sox to “stop testing and just treat the symptoms” (Twitter link with audio). Asked in a follow-up to confirm that MLB had instructed the Red Sox to stop testing, Renfroe replied with a simple, “Yes.”
Both Major League Baseball and the Red Sox moved quickly to refute the claim. Julian McWilliams and Kate McInerny of the Boston Globe cited a league spokesperson who called Renfroe’s claim “completely wrong and inaccurate,” while the team issued a statement indicating it has “been following MLB’s COVID-19 protocols all season long.” The Red Sox added that they have “continued to test and [the league’s] medical staff has been very supportive.”
Renfroe has not further addressed his comments, and there’s been some speculation that he misconstrued the league’s policy of reduced testing frequency for vaccinated, asymptomatic players, which went into place back in June. Under those updated protocols, vaccinated players are not tested for the virus unless they either display symptoms or are deemed a close contact from a person known to have tested positive.
jz2016cubs
Ouch. The Red Sox are really hurting rn.
Fever Pitch Guy
Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
If the Red Sox don’t collapse I expect Sale to pitch the wild card game and win it.
ChiSox_Fan
Darn!
Was looking forward to Chris Sale pitching vs. White Sox on Sunday!!
tpedrick
Brutal. Makes you wonder how much of the postseason will be decided by COVID….
mister guy
well despite having the best record, the giants are just now getting solano back and still out wood due to the covid list – it is a factor for sure
Fever Pitch Guy
The Red Sox are not taking it seriously. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Very few masks, very little social distancing, Bloom has yet to implement stricter Covid protocols and that’s why the Red Sox are STILL coming up with all these new Covid-positive test results more than a month later. First positive test was Venable on August 7th, no other team has continued to have so many new positive test results more than a month later.
WtfMate
Because it isn’t that serious for athletes
Fever Pitch Guy
Doesn’t matter, their apathy has resulted in the Red Sox roster being decimated and could very well cost them a postseason appearance.
Common sense says if there’s an outbreak on a contending team, do everything you can to stop it from spreading. It’s not rocket science, social distancing and sanitizing.
WtfMate
Pfft. It’s the red Sox, nobody cares
giantsphan12
@Wtf, it “can” be serious for athletes. It’s just that there are not many athletes who have gotten it, so the rare cases where an athlete (or otherwise healthy, young person) would get really sick hasn’t happened much. There were some Olympic athletes who got really sick. Further, Alex Wood has been rather sick (un-vaxxed) and has put the Giants in a stressful pitching situation as a result.
WtfMate
1 or 2 out of the hundreds of athletes to confirm having it with serious symptoms… Such a scary virus…
Redsoxx_62
#$&@
Monkey’s Uncle
Yosemite Sam has entered the chat
percontesauce
Maybe they should get a shot or two.
mister guy
you can still test positive with a vaccine, you still need to be quarantined to stop spreading it to others. there should be a modified quarantine protocol though rather than the mandatory 10 days, it should be like 24 hours or some such after testing negative since when you contract it after vaccination you clear it more quickly from your system
Eatdust666
Yeah and some people have even died after getting it. Not saying it doesn’t work , though, because it does more than half of the time.
Dexxter
I don’t know what the Sox vaccination rate is. After losing E Rod for the entire 2020 season due to complications after contracting covid you’d think they’d have incentive to get the shot more quickly than most teams.
phillyphilly4133
And plenty of people watch loved ones die in the hospital yet they refuse to get vaccinated.
TalkSomeSense
MLB should look into why some teams only have 1-2 cases and other have large outbreaks. Vaccination rates or some teams have better protocols and players willing to follow them.
mister guy
the giants had an outbreak with like a 90%+ vaccination rate – I don’t know the status of wood but solano was vaccinated when he got it. Vaccination lets your system fight the virus more quickly and effectively but it isn’t a shield that repels the virus or anything. With guys in close quarters and a lot of close physical contact it doesn’t take much for it to spread and the testing and quarantine protocols are to keep it from spreading further and protect those who didn’t get vaccinated and those with underlying conditions.
dodger1958
The new delta variant can “break through” and cause infections in vaccinated people. The more vaccine bozos refuse to vaccinate, the more chance that the virus mutates further. Eventually some scientists believe, a new variant will arise that the current vaccines have little ability to deal with. Stop the spread. Get your asses vaccinated.
Captain Dunsel
I am not aware of any protocol or study regarding gluteal administration of the Covid vaccine; it is typically given in the deltoid region. Otherwise I concur with your statement.
billysbballz
So genius let me ask you a question since it’s obvious you work for the CDC. If a person is not vaccinated but has gotten covid numerous times is t that just like being vaccinated? It’s the same antibodies is it not? So this theory on blaming the unvaccinated needs to stop being peddled by a president and a party because it will only further divided and divided country as is. People are getting the virus everywhere in the world, some countries in the Middle East have no vaccines yet they are not dying at alarming and worse records than vaccinated countries? There is allot we don’t know so rather than play the blame game let’s take it easy.
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
Sarcastically calls someone “genius,” then spells “a lot” (2 words) as “allot.”
dodger1958
Billy is it your “genius” suggestion that instead of being vaccinated all people are exposed to COVID? Allot of us want to know.
mister guy
it is actually not like being vaccinated. Saying that it is is like saying that if you have been robbed numerous times and had cameras it is the same as having an alarm go off and the police showing up and stopping it. The vaccine trains your system to stop the virus once it is in your system without causing the harm to your body as the virus will or to allow a log incubation in which the virus attempts to adapt to your body, hence creating variants. We learned this in elementary school – hell my daughter just did a report about it in the first grade.
ayeitsfabes
If you individually get COVID multiple times that would imply natural immunity is nothing like vaccination as that’s not what’s happening in vaccinated populations.
Aaron Johnson
I don’t work for the CDC but certainly have the ability to read their website, which states that being vaccinated is better than relying on antibodies from a previous infection. Per the CDC website,
“Evidence is emerging that people get better protection by being fully vaccinated compared with having had COVID-19. One study showed that unvaccinated people who already had COVID-19 are more than 2 times as likely than fully vaccinated people to get COVID-19 again. Learn more about why getting vaccinated is a safer way to build protection than getting infected.”
But, you know, why not politicize it?
mister guy
yea I mean it makes sense that specifically introducing your body to the blueprint of the spike protein coating of covid in order to allow it to recognize it on contact is going to be more effective than just letting your system do – whatever when it encounters it and try to figure it out while it’s systems are compromised
phillyphilly4133
Vaccine helps the body recognize the virus and starts fighting right away.
Sure your body will eventually figure out a natural defense to fight COvId but that takes time. It may take up to a week for you body to figure that out. In the meantime the viral load keeps growing and growing while the body builds up the defense. Sometimes it becomes too much for the body to fight and play catch-up. The load can get too big.
The vaccine allows you to fight off Covid right away. It helps keep the load lower and allows you to fight it off faster. The quicker it’s gone the less of a chance you have to spread.
terrymesmer
> If a person is not vaccinated but has gotten covid numerous times is that just like being vaccinated?
That’s as dumb as advocating all kids get Tommy John surgery in hope that they thereby avoid Tommy John surgery as adults.
Skeptical
Billy, thanks for commenting on something you know nothing about. Restores my faith in both propaganda and P.T. Barnum.
dodger1958
@skeptical. He is, after all, a genius.
5TUNT1N
His strikeout rate is good, but his 5.5% rate tho!
Disjointed Team
So tired of this. Does he even have symptoms?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
That actually doesn’t matter if he tested positive. It means he can transmit it to many, many people who may suffer way more than a well-conditioned athlete.
Kewldood69
I love al the internet doctors here. Probably guys that prefer injecting horse medicine over stuff made
for humans. Oh well.
Disjointed Team
This is what’s wrong with all this, and why people will live in fear as they listen to political hacks trying to stay in power. Where are you getting your information? Where are the stats for flu and pneumonia deaths? Inquiring minds want to know.
Weasel 2
Flu deaths were EXTREMELY low this year. That’s good in general but very troubling for next season
1) We will have less natural immunity since fewer people caught it this season
2) It might be harder to identify which variant to vaccinate against. (The flu vaccines only protect against a specific strain and they have to guess which one is most likely)
3) Pneumonia is usually a SECONDARY infection stemming from another condition
4) Specific to COVID the use of ventilators makes it harder for the body to clear the lungs. Hence pneumonia
As for internet doctors.
1) the COVID vaccines work
2) they are safe for almost everyone
3) you can still get COVID after vaccination (1/5000 cases are breakthroughs)
4) Ivermectin does NOTHING for COVID
5) I’d personally like to know which MORON misled Americans about ivermectin. That person should be jailed
6) Masks protect others, not the wearer as much
7) The virus lingers in the air so places with poor ventilation are more dangerous (I will eat out now that I’m vaccinated but only outdoors)
8) I’m not an MD but I have a degree in micro biology.
Disjointed Team
Flu deaths are down for a reason. I’m not going to waste my time explaining why. Teenagers can figure this out.
I’m all for everyone to make their own decision on this vaccine. But no jacka$$ is going to dictate to me what I’m going to do. NOBODY has the authority to do that. If it walks like Mr. Magoo, looks like Mr. Magoo, and talks like Mr. Magoo, it’s likely…46.
Weasel 2
Correct no one can make you do anything
Expect the military draft and taxes
Also you should drive on the right side of the road and you should wear clothing when outside.
On the other hand when idiots like you get COVID you go to the hospital and take up space and costs $10,000s to treat.
So be a REAL MAN. If you get COVID protect everyone else and DIE AT HOME.
Disjointed Team
Weasel, so nice to see another listen to me or get out of my way person like you spew your communist crap. So if I get influenza real bad, and didn’t get the flu SHOT, should I stay at home? In 2019, do you think anyone went to a game with flu symptoms?
Bruin1012
I know everyone has a right to choose whether or not to take the vaccine but here’s another point for you to think about.
The wife was recently diagnosed with cancer and needs surgery for this cancer. The problem she has now had two cancellations because the unvaccinated knuckleheads are taking all the beds in the hospitals. I’m getting pissed that this is happening get your damn shot stop being selfish for people that really need to be in the hospital.
JoeBrady
Weasel 243 mins ago
Flu deaths were EXTREMELY low this year.
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Probably the regular flu deaths being characterized as Covid. I checked this months back in Michigan. Most of the deaths caused by things that resemble Covid, were down, while Covid was up.
It was a strange negative correlation.
TalkSomeSense
Bruin
The selfish amongst us tend to not see beyond the end of their own nose. They want all the benefits of being in a modern society without making any effort for the common good.
I truly hope your wife comes through this with flying colors.
JoeBrady
Bruin, I am fairly far right, but these people are idiots. My employer stops by my office every year and asks if I want a flu shot. It costs me nothing, it takes no time, and if I am lucky, I can shake them down for a free donut.
So what’s the downside? I am not sure anyone ever answered that for me.
And good luck to your wife.
TalkSomeSense
Not so strange when you consider that measures to combat Covid , hand washing, social distancing etc work very well against the Flu.
Delta has a R0 much higher then the flu so apply some logic before jumping into the conspiracy boat.
mister guy
1 isn’t true as far as the flu goes but 2 is – you have a base level of immunity against the general influenza family if you have ever had the flu but the reason a seasonal flu shot happens is to guard against potential variants specifically reducing spread and symptoms. That means that the level of community immunity via exposure is irrelevant but #2 is a lot more important since variant prediction will be tough with less global spread over the previous year to make accurate vaccines this year.
This all means again that dumb people will get worse since now they will use the argument – well if the flu vaccine is ineffective all vaccines are ineffective because common sense and not science.
dodger1958
Communist crap? Hardly. Anyone who disagrees with your views are branded communists or fascists. If you are infected with the flu and experience flu-like symptoms (I assume that is what you mean by “if I get influenza real bad”), yes, you should stay home. Assuming, however, you don’t die. Though not nearly as deadly as COVID, thousands die a year from the flu. COVID is not the flu.
Aj5258
Nobody can make you do anything. Got it. Good to know
Unless, of course, you’re a woman in Texas. Then men can tell you what to do with your body.
FOmeOLS
Men cannot, however, tell a woman to have sex. And if she doesn’t have sex, she won’t get pregnant, boy there’s an idea.
etex211
And abortion is still legal in Texas, unfortunately.
Skeptical
Wow, do you drive on whatever side of the road you want or have you caved in and drive on the right side? With freedom goes responsibility to your community.
Disjointed Team
What a ridiculous comparison. When the “shot” becomes a law, and I can go to jail for not obeying it, then I’ll get the “shot.” In the meantime, don’t be a fool and use driving laws to compare to what goes into my body.
dodger1958
No one is being forced to vaccinate or go to jail. If they don’t wish to do so then there are consequences to not doing so, like losing your job. Of course mandatory vaccines have been legal in the US since 1905. And George Washington mandated that all his troops be be scratched with live smallpox virus. A person’s right to not be vaccinated is not paramount to Some people cannot be vaccinated due to underlying medical conditions or adherence to religious beliefs.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
@W 2. This is not how you will get people to vaccinate. Be kind.
rangerfan4ever
Yeah mandate for Americans to get vaccinated but leave the borders wide open so it can keep getting brought across. Makes total sense. But yet it’s the unvaccinated Americans causing everything
dodger1958
@Fred. Anyone who wanted to be vaccinated by now would be. You can’t “get” people to vaccinate. Either they want to protect themselves and their fellow human beings or they don’t wish to. Simple as that. All the benefits of being vaccinated and the dangers of not being vaccinated are out there. Have been for months. You can explain it to people, you can’t force them to understand.
Julio Franco's Birth Certificate
“Horse Medicine” which won the Nobel Prize for its safe and effective use in….wait for it….humans.
Turn off your TV.
Disjointed Team
Julio, exactly. Horses and humans both take LASIX too.
Weasel 2
Ivermectin is great against parasites. You know, like WORMS
COVID is a VIRUS.
Take 5 minutes and read a white paper
But I do agree with you on “turn off your TV”
Fox News has vaccinated ALL their anchors.
ALL GOP governors are also vaccinated
ALL GOP senators are vaccinated
I dont know about the House though haven’t seen anything about their rate of vaccination (makes me think it’s not 100% though)
Most SEC football programs are now 100% vaccinated (they are the most vaccinated conference)
mister guy
when I go fishing I bait my hooks with viruses though
mrkinsm
Even Trump got vaccinated before leaving the white house, and that’s after being hospitalized from the virus.
pirateking24
Ivermectin isn’t Horse medicine. I guess you wouldn’t know that.
Setzer
“horse medicine”??? Maybe do a little research before posting your political BS. Ivermectin is also for humans as well.
LaBalaDePlata
Again with the “horse medicine” talk. It is used in humans, has been for 40 years! Do you refer to penicillin, doxycycline, or dexamethasone as animal drugs?
I don’t know if Ivermectin helps much or not, but it is very safe to take and other countries give it to their patients. Not the “ horse medicine” version either.
dodger1958
Ivermectin is a parasitic drug. It is used in both humans and animals, such as horses.
Ivermectin did not win a Nobel prize. Those that developed might have (haven’t checked).
Ivermectin has not been proven to be an effective drug treatment for COVID. Just like injecting disinfectants internally has not proven to be effective.
Ivermectin is by prescription only. Which means a doctor must prescribe it (most doctors won’t do so). Which is why many are turning to the horse paste formulation because it is much easier to obtain. This is not meant fo human consumption and there have been reports of elevated “poisoning” reports following adverse reactions to consuming hires paste.
Ivermectin, like other other “45” inspired quack cures, has not been proven to be in effective in the treatment of COVID.
Don’t be a horses ass and consume horse medicine.
Disjointed Team
I know two people who got Covid. They both took Ivermectin,Remdesavir and Hydrochloroquine. They were out of the hospital in two days. So stop listening to MSDNC and other far left media outlets who refuse to report actual NEWS! Patients who know about this, and request it, have survived. By the way, it’s what 45 took and survived with flying colors.
TalkSomeSense
That must be why no country with a Top ranked healthcare system has approved the use of HCQ or Ivermectin for the treatment of Covid.
LaBalaDePlata
I’m in the cattle business, and I know all about ivermectin. I use it and moxidectin on my cattle every year. I am not advocating its use, but it is being used around the world for treatment of COVID, whether it be compassionate use or a supplement to other treatments.
It is a safe drug to take, and if it lessens symptoms or even the viral load then it could be beneficial. If it doesn’t, then no harm, no foul.
But to hear Anderson Cooper, those idiots at TYT, or any other media person strictly refer to it as “horse dewormer” and make it seem barbaric to use gets me angry. As if those who do take it will grow hooves.
LaBalaDePlata
Because they don’t have billions tied up in a vaccine with narrow immunity.
TalkSomeSense
Actually only countries like S.Africa have used it to treat Covid. But you go ahead and follow the lead of the 175th ranked healthcare system in the world.
Please reference 1 peer reviewed study showing Ivermectin is effective in treating Covid.
LaBalaDePlata
Dude, I’m not advocating the use of Ivermectin. What I am saying is that it isn’t just “horse medicine” and that it is safe to use, so even if it did nothing at all that individual would still be fine. Obviously there have been plenty of people who have been prescribed Ivermectin by their Dr’s and have recovered quickly. Whether the Ivermectin helped or not, who knows. But they weren’t taking the horse paste from the feed store.
cwizzy6
You’re a liar. No hospital will provide Ivermectin (not approved for use for COVID) or “hydrochloroquine”, which isnt even how you spell that. I say it again. You. Are. A. Liar.
LaBalaDePlata
Did I say hospital? No, I said a doctor. And yes there have been doctors prescribe Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Doxycycline, z-pacs, etc. I know several who were prescribed Ivermectin.
Will all doctors? Of course not. Your general physician can prescribe what he feels might work, and if you talk to your dr. about certain meds, he might let you try it out. Especially if it is a safe drug to take.
But yes, if you are in the ER, they won’t be giving you Ivermectin.
cwizzy6
I was replying to Disjointed who did say the hospital.
Disjointed Team
Hey motor mouth Cwizzy, Walter Reed Hospital gave it to Trump. You can think what you want, but many doctors that are NOT affiliated with a politically slanted, government entity are using Ivermectin, Remdesavir and Hydrochloroquine to wipe out Covid symptoms. It’s happening, whether your narrow, whack mind wants to believe it or not. And I don’t care how you spell it. Not important.
TalkSomeSense
Disjointed
As it seems you like to shoot your mouth off and pretend to be an expert which you are so blatantly obvious not. Walter Reed treated Trump with Dexamethasone and Remdesavir they DID NOT treat him with HCQ or Ivermectin.
0 Western countries have approved either of HCQ or Ivermectin for treatment of Covid.
Do some research next time rather then blindly listening to Fox entertainment ,or social media crackpots who line their pockets on the ignorance of their followers.
Disjointed Team
I don’t care what Fox says. I’m not shooting my mouth off. I’m just not going to listen to some A$$ call me a liar. I know people who have taken ivermectin for Covid. I don’t care if you or anyone believes me. There are doctors out there that don’t listen to Fauci or CDC and treat patients how they see fit. Just like a person and his/her doctor should decide if the vaccine is good for them. Not some power hungry, senile old man.
dodger1958
LaBala it is not totally safe to use. Hint if it were it would likely be over the counter. No prescription drug is entirely safe to use. So if it won’t help why risk any potential adverse reaction. From the PDR on adverse reactions.
angioedema / Rapid / 1.2-1.2
Stevens-Johnson syndrome / Delayed / 0-1.0
toxic epidermal necrolysis / Delayed / 0-1.0
seizures / Delayed / 0-1.0
ocular hemorrhage / Delayed / 0-1.0
coma / Early / 0-1.0
TalkSomeSense
Disjointed
Why then did you say HCQ and Ivermectin were given to Trump at Walter Reed? Ignorance ? Making statements that are not true leaves you open to ridicule.
Disjointed Team
Whatever. I just know it wasn’t the “shot” he was given. So I got the drugs confused. The point was there are drugs doctors are using to treat Covid that aren’t coming from Pfizer, J&J or Moderna.
TalkSomeSense
Suggestion- In the future do a little research on the topic first otherwise you will have 0 credibility on this or any other forum/blog.
Disjointed Team
Thanks for the advice, Jesus.
TalkSomeSense
Very welcome, have a pleasant weekend.
dodger1958
Disjointed I know dozens of people who received the vaccine and did not come down with COVID. So why hasn’t everyone been vaccinated? And this, from the manufacturer of Vekkury. “Risk of reduced antiviral activity when coadministered with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine: Coadministration of VEKLURY with chloroquine phosphate or hydroxychloroquine sulfate is not recommended based on data from cell culture experiments, demonstrating potential antagonism, which may lead to a decrease in the antiviral activity of VEKLURY.”
Disjointed Team
Are the cattle the source of the Mu variant?
dodger1958
Ivermectin is a drug to treat parasites.
Ivermectin is by prescription only.
Ivermectin is used to treat both humans and horses.
Because most doctors won’t prescribe Ivermectin for an illness which it has nit been shown to be effective in treating, many people are turning to horse medicine contains it as an ingredient.
The horse grade version is getting some people ill.
Ivermectin has not been demonstrated to effective in the treatment of COVID. Like many other 45 inspired quack remedies.
Weasel 2
If players lost salary for COVID they’d get vaccinated. But, athletes are super superstitious about their bodies (understandably).
Oddly they seem to take a lot of untested supplements though.
On the plus side no pro athlete has died for COVID.
Cedric Ceballos is the only prom level athlete that’s been hospitalized with significant symptoms as far as I know.
BloodySox
How many posts are you going to make saying the same thing?
Dorothy_Mantooth
E-Rod spent time in the hospital too with his heart issue.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I just wanted to point out that those things you’ve noted are not mutually exclusive.
samthebravesfan
Boo hoo. He’ll live.
Louholtz22
We need new blood anyway. Come on Seattle and Toronto
TalkSomeSense
I do hope the Jays and Mariners take the Wild Cards. Late August I placed a $100 bet that they would. The payout will be a tidy sum.
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
STOP THE COUNT!!!!!!1!!1!
Weasel 2
Trump can’t count. He doesn’t math. He does claim to know technology and he also said he’s good at nuclear.
Basically a moron for all seasons.
ZabbiaI
Yeah, the guy with dementia who can barely read a teleprompter is a much better choice…
etex211
But he defeated Corn Pop.
C’Mon, man!
cwsOverhaul
Too bad. Would have been great to see Sale pitch against our WSox on Sunday even if he dominated.
Weasel 2
If WW2 happened today:
Every Trumpist; You can’t vaccinate me! I’d rather learn to speak German.
Disjointed Team
Are you a Drama teacher?
Chad623
Don’t you have anything else to talk about? Baseball, perhaps?
Take your rambling nonsense to Twitter with the rest of the emotionally unstable activists.
bledrules
Complete ignorance,which explains why you are A Biden lover
Birds of a feather
Jdlucas2001
Oh everything good happens on the left.
hopper15
You guys should probably just close the comment section with anything Covid related. It’s getting pretty bad.
Fever Pitch Guy
When they re-opened Covid comments it was supposed to be baseball-related only. People aren’t following the rules, so eventually they could be taken away again.
DarkSide830
or just ban the people breaking commenting policy. judging by who is making the original inflammatory comments, it’s only a few people instigating.
mister guy
that is because humanity is sad.
johnnieleeboo
They should close it, but whether it’s clicks or that the Power(singular) that be agrees with the self-called Conservatives, they won’t close it until the antivaxxers have a good long “owning” session..
Notice that the latest post, today. on the Former Pitcher was closed before any of us called out the whitewash brigade/Victim-bashers or the hypocrisy of various actors.
That’s your “tell”
Betcha I won’t be here all week.
DarkSide830
you do realize this sort of sentiment is exactly what OP os reffering to, right?
FredMcGriff for the HOF
Nobody is forcing anyone to read the comments. It’s free will. There are thousands of people who visit this site and the vast majority don’t leave comments.
vtadave
….and this is why most of the MLBTR COVID threads are locked.
BloodySox
All these “facts”, not one single source. How about we talk baseball?
Dustyslambchops23
Opinion of 1. If someone is Vaxxed, they shouldn’t have to take any time off (unless they actually get sick)
The idea that we need to continue to protect either the vaxxed or unvaccinated is absurd. Either you’re protected or you’re not, and if you’re not you’ve had the opportunity to be and therefore assumed the risk
Dorothy_Mantooth
Come on Dusty, you have to know better than that. A vaccinated person who catches Covid can still spread it other people, so they have to quarantine that person for the betterment of society. Whether or not they need a full 10+ days of quarantine is certainly up for debate but as soon as someone tests positive, they need to be removed from situations where they are around other groups of people. It’s the only way to prevent another mass outbreak (which is starting to happen now).
Dustyslambchops23
The vaccination brings covid down to a flu. I’m not saying they can’t spread it, I’m saying who cares that it’s being spread when everyone who wants to be vaccinated had done so.
I’m sorry there is no logic in it
Dorothy_Mantooth
@ Dusty – the Covid vaccination brings the SYMPTOMS of Covid in a vaccinated person down to something similar to the flu, but it does not change the virus into something less severe. That infected person can still spread “full-blown” Covid to other people. This is why they need to quarantine, as Covid can affect other people much worse than the carrier who has it. This is also why so many people have died from Covid. People with minimal symptoms or no symptoms spread Covid to other people whose immune systems can not fight it off and it has resulted in 100’s of thousands of hospitalizations and deaths. I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand your logic here. It’s still a deadly disease for millions of people so it should be taken seriously by anyone who contracts it even if they feel fine.
dodger1958
The vaccine is not 100% effective. New variants are “popping” up. The current vaccines are not as effective against some of the newer variants as the older ones.
Even vaccinated and non symptomatic persons can transmit the disease. The longer people don’t vaccinate the greater chance that a variant will happen which the vaccine will have little or no impact on. That means that many vaccinated people will be subjected to the disease as if they had never been vaccinated.
Moreover, the costs of treatment are huge, whether they assumed the risk or not, understand some 4,500 health care workers have died from COVID. So it can and does directly impact innocent victims.
Lastly, and as stated above, many necessary medical procedures are not being performed and cancelled because of lack of bed space or doctors being rerouted. I know I had to delay my yearly cancer screening.
Julio Franco's Birth Certificate
Since when in the history if humanity prior to the present has anyone cared what medical treatments another person has?
What you do medically to your body, or don’t do is none of my business and vice versa. period. I hope everyone stays well no matter what their choices are.
Yet everyone wants to mandate this or mandate that on others and politicize illness of all things.
Truly frightening and Orwellian. 1934 Germany-type stuff.
Dustyslambchops23
In order to go to school you need a bunch of vaccinations. In order to travel to certain countries, same thing.
I don’t agree with mandates but your point is not valid
mrkinsm
Since when?
Pretty much since modern medicine. Even our first president inoculated all of his troops. Why? Because he knew he couldn’t beat the British if everyone died from the pox.
In 1934 Germany you would have been closer to being put down for being sick.
FOmeOLS
The Red Sox hired a known cheater in Cora. They are a signature club. Of COURSE MLB is going to do as much as possible to help the Sox. Heaven Forbid the Mariners make the Post season instead of the Marquee guys!
Eatdust666
Oh god, not more stupid political crap.
DarkSide830
people complain about things being politicised and then invoke politics. terribly ironic, isnt it?
David Barista
Chris Sale 100% unvaccinated… Is that a fair assumption?
Ultimately, I only care about the death rate and the number of available ICU hospital beds, but we also have ridiculous masking and quarantining policies in place for asymptotic individuals because people (like Rizzo and probably Sale) are too selfish, ignorant, and/or naive to get a shot… quit the conspiracy theories! Getting vaccinated helps control the number of hospitalizations and reduce the spread of the virus…. When will we be “allowed” to be sick again?
dodger1958
Chris Sale has already had COVID once. There is no information one way or the other whether he is vaccinated. He will be out of action for a minimum of 10 days.
David Barista
Remember when Chris Sale cut up all the White Sox throwback jerseys because he didn’t like them? I’m basing my assumptions about his vaccination status entirely upon his personality
FredMcGriff for the HOF
I find it fascinating how many commenters want people to vaccinate by shaming them. All it does is the opposite effect.
David Barista
It’s a shame that some people perpetuate conspiracies about vaccines… whoever needs convincing has already ignored truth and logic… people are apathetic, and I don’t have optimism for that to change
dodger1958
@Fred. Anyone (with few exceptions) who isn’t vaccinated by now has consciously refused to do so. Moreover, it depends on how you define shaming. Unvaccinated people continue to spread a deadly disease. If death rates of 19-12x times that of unvaccinated people don’t do “the trick”, then you can’t really shame someone who doesn’t care about their own health, that of their friends or family, or of anyone else. Not only are they refusing to vaccinate but as David said, they are spreading lies about the vaccine and the disease. They are lost souls who are impervious to being shamed.
Jim Carter
Won’t be long before the players have to be vaccinated. Then they’ll have to rely on those hamstrings for some time off work.