5:40 pm: The Red Sox announced they’ve selected Peacock and left-hander Stephen Gonsalves. Righty Raynel Espinal has been removed from the 40-man roster and returned to Worcester. Gonsalves, a one time well-regarded prospect during his days in the Twins’ system, signed a minor league deal with the Red Sox over the winter. Over 67 innings with Worcester, he’s worked to a 4.97 ERA with a huge 30.2% strikeout rate but a very high 16.4% walk percentage. Josh Taylor has also landed on the COVID IL as part of contact tracing efforts.
3:30 pm: Boston will lose a fifth player to the COVID IL, as reliever Hirokazu Sawamura has tested positive, Chris Cotillo of MassLive was among those to pass along. Sawamura has a 3.06 ERA over 46 2/3 innings this season, his first in MLB after nine seasons in Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball.
3:03 pm: The Red Sox are planning to select righty Brad Peacock to the big league roster, the team informed reporters (including Sean McAdam of Boston Sports Journal). He’ll get the start for this evening’s game against the Rays. The Red Sox have a couple vacancies on the 40-man roster because of their recent placement of four players on the COVID-19 injured list, so they’ll only need to make a corresponding active roster move.
Boston just added Peacock from the Indians in exchange for cash considerations yesterday. He’ll almost immediately get brought up to the majors for the first time this season, the ninth consecutive (and tenth overall) in which he’s made it to the big league level. Peacock had spent the past eight years with the Astros, bouncing between the rotation and long relief throughout his time in Houston.
Peacock had a few rocky seasons to begin his career but he found quite a bit of success beginning in 2017, when he reeled off 132 innings with an even 3.00 ERA. He hasn’t repeated quite that level of production, but he remained a valuable member of the pitching staff over the next couple seasons. Between 2017-19, Peacock worked to a 3.46 ERA across 288 2/3 frames, striking out a fantastic 29.4% of batters faced against an average 9% walk rate.
The 2019 campaign was the last in which Peacock has picked up extended big league innings. He was limited to three relief appearances by a shoulder injury last year and ultimately underwent arthroscopic surgery last October. That kept him out of action until late June, when he hooked on with Cleveland on a minor league deal.
He has since made eleven appearances (ten starts) with their top affiliate in Columbus, where he’s worked to a 7.68 ERA over 34 innings. That’s obviously an unsightly run prevention number, but Peacock’s peripherals are quite a bit better. The 33-year-old has essentially league average marks in strikeout rate (23.8%) and walk percentage (8.8%). His 34.3% ground-ball rate is rather low — contributing to some home run troubles — but he’s also been plagued by an abnormally high .340 opponents’ batting average on balls in play and should strand runners at a better clip than his current 56.5% mark moving forward.
I’m a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
Only thing peacock is letting fly are the hits tonight
This should be interesting.
Now the bloom apologists will blame the free fall on covid instead of roster construction and a blown trade deadline.
Do you miss Dick O’Connell?
I’d take him every day of the week and twice on Sundays over bloom… possibly even today. The query is whether a guy 6 feet under would do less long term harm if the assistants ran the ship?
Keep in mind that Bloom was hired to be a puppet for ownership. It’s not his fault they traded Mookie or refused to go over the CBT threshold. He’s doing exactly what ownership has asked of him. At least he is rebuilding their farm system. They went from a bottom 5 farm system to a Top 10 farm system in the 2 years he’s been here. That’s pretty darn good if you ask me given the spending restrictions he has at the major league level.
@ Dorothy – the current farm talent rankings have little to do with bloom.
The guys who’ve gained stock were drafted before his tenure…. With the exception of this year’s top pick which anyone who tanks a season can pick up.
While I disagree with the mookie trade (mostly including price, I’m OK with trading mookie although as a general idea) I think bloom was supposed to be doing an LA/TB style identifying under the radar guys and getting them. And he’s made tons of moves there, but, low success rate/ little results compared to what he could’ve gotten by buying a couple quality players with the same money.
He hands out a plethora of 2m to 5m but keeps coming up snake eyes on most all those rolls. Judiciously spending that same money on fewer effors would’ve gotten better results – mainly because of guys just not panning out, you couldn’t have done worse.
Dorothy – I can’t say this enough times. The reason the farm system went up since Bloom got to Boston is the piss poor finish in 2020 and the 250 points they got for the fourth pick in the draft!!! That’s not a credit to Bloom is a NEGATIVE and it shows what bull crap the ratings are. He added guys like Downs who have fallen from their lofty perch. That’s NEGATIVE he’s done nothing good for the farm system.
If the 3 big guns hadn’t played so well he might have improved the farm system even more with another bottom 5 finish in 2021 but alas it wasn’t meant to be because he inherited studs from DD that lifted this team on their shoulders and carried it for four months.
DOROTHY – You are full of crap when it comes to the farm system BS you are spewing at folks!!
Dorothy: Why would the Red Sox or any team spend $200M or go over the CBT threshold when the Rays compete every year for about $80M? A smart business man would hire someone from the Rays to run their operations which is what John Henry did. I think the Red Sox are going to build a contender Rays style. They can also use their financial advantage along the way where it makes sense.
AITSTYW – Sound business logic BUT you are missing some key information.
Businessmen seek profits. The Red Sox profits have been in the hundreds of millions for years. Not revenue, PROFITS. The luxury tax on a payroll that spends $228M is $10M which is $1M less than JBJ’s 2020 salary. So exceeding the cap by $20M in the 3rd year over only costs $10M. The first time you exceed by $20M it costs $4M (less than Perez money) and the second time it cost $6M (replacement cost on a #5 SP). So the cap is not really a deterrent to organizations making nearly half a billion in profits yearly. or even a quarter billion.
So if you have a very poor revenue stream that causes your bottom line to teeter between red and black it makes perfect sense for a team like TB to cap payroll at $60M or $80M or even $100M if they can still profit.
In Boston, there are very different revenue streams than in TB from a volume standpoint. TV money is far greater, merchandising is far greater. Heck nearly every revenue stream is far greater thus instead of breaking even at $120M they make nearly half a billion at $120M. Consequently, the logic you apply is NOT comparable for both organizations. Your viewpoint works for TB but not for Boston.
For example. In 2018 when they won the world series their revenues streams significantly increased thanks to the playoffs and world series. That addition revenue was far greater than any luxury tax that was levied on the over the cap payroll.
Since over $40M of the payroll was retained payroll from before DD, he’s often been accused of over-spending. The fact is he stayed way under the cap in 2018 but the team went over when the retained earnings were included. That’s on ownership not DD. Ownership simply reduced their profits by the $40M but still made nearly half a billion.
So, lets peg profits at $400M per year in the late 2010s. Payroll is around $210M (the cap) and they spent $240M roughly. Most people would expect profits to fall from $400M but thanks to the huge additional revenues profits went up thanks to winning a championship.
So I ask you, knowing this situation; Is it more frugal to approach this like a big market team that believes they can make the playoffs and win a ring or a small market team that is trying to make money?
With the incredible revenue streams I believe it’s most logical to win rings by spending more than the cap because profits go up, fans are happy and your franchise grows in value. The current poor man’s approach lowers total revenues, produces an inferior team, less satisfied fans and less notoriety for the organization which lowers the intrinsic value of the organization. Spending over the cap is a win-win and being frugal like TB is a lose-lose. That’s why it makes no sense to fire DD and hire Bloom. It’s costing the owners a fortune to be frugal. It’s illogical but it’s easily proven by looking at the books.
Now THERE’S a revered name I haven’t heard in a while….a complete Profile in Courage who went against his owner in terms of minority players….and a heck of a talent analyzer….
They should be missing Dombrowski. He’d make some goofy deals, but the team won. Yes, you can dismantle the farm, but there are always free agents to sign and trades to make. Bloom County and Core-a-apple are really bad to the point where this team could be behind the Jays by Sunday.
The Red Sox season is over.
No, I think they’re still playing.
Hondo, the problem is for the past two years bloom hasn’t committed and just keeps making fringe moves with little to negative net gain.
There’s 3 types of teams in MLB –
1) the full blown rebuild where you don’t expect or try to contend. You sell your performing pieces to get massive amounts of high end nearly-cant-miss young guys whenever you can.
2) a team of mostly young pre-arb guys just entering contention. Sometimes you take a wait-till-next-year approach if prices are high side you’ve got many years to look at.
3) the team has aging players going into their 30s and on expiring deals. This is your “win-now” club since you know you’ve only got one or two decent years left before there are holes all over. Also known as the team in its prime but starting to age.
Bloom inherited number 3, but isn’t pulling the trigger to either win or sell to avoid number 1 (this of Yankees reloads vs the boom-bust cycles of cherington.)
Bloom wouldn’t add the pieces to a playoff caliber roster for multiple offseasons. Now guys are nearing the end of their contracts and getting some age on them while he squanders that potential and value.
If he’d commit one way or another it wouldn’t be so bad – you could say he went for it, or, he got some premium talent for a new wave. Instead it’s purgatory while other teams load up for a postseason and boston…. wallows.
The RS went all-in to the extent of the payroll cap. We are competing for the playoffs, and will continue to compete for the playoffs, for many years to come, imo.
I’d beg to differ Joe.
The redsox didn’t go all-in. A first place team with a cushion of a couple games. Other high caliber teams exceeded the cbt limit. Owmership signaled they would be OK exceeding the limit. Bloom didn’t.
The redsox had trade chips of value. Bloom didn’t trade them for impact talent at positions of need.
The term “all-in” means you burn money and prospects to buy the best players you can. Not nibble at the edges for a bunch of retreads that are fringe AAAA players who, aside from roster filler, are on their way out of mlb, and an injured guy with nowhere to play on the team that doesn’t fit a roster hole.
We can argue pro or anti Bloom all day long, even agree to disagree on him as a gm… but it’s beyond a stretch to say this team went all-in at the deadline.
Again, once the decision was made to stay under the cap, then they went all-in to the extent they could. They are at ~ $209.6M.
Still not true Joe.
You could bundle a prospect, plus a bad contract or two, and get a useful piece. Instead bloom signs his 4m guys, then releases them wasting the payroll.
Or, example in point, Chavis. After 2019 the guy was league average after a rookie year as a 23 year old. In the 2020 abomination which should count for little with anyone, he didn’t respond well. Rather than stick with 2018’s #1 raked prospect he gets sparse, inconsistent, playing time before being sold for a song as a horrible sell low with cannon fodder as the return.
You could bundle money wasted by bloom together and get better players- and don’t forget, it was bloom deciding to bundle and pay price to pitch for LA. The sox were under cbt by moving mookie alone.
We could list off move, after move, after move by bloom that squandered resources. If I give you $500, which you insist on pissing away on a series of “low-risk high reward” lottery scratchers then complain there’s no money left for groceries whose fault is that? The lottery tickets that failed? Being out of money?
No, it’s the guy who mismanaged resources and refused to use other assets he had on hand.
Just admit bloom screwed up this year.
JB – You say so isn’t a good enough reason. There is no logic to your statement only heart. Nice loyalty but most folks want to deal in facts not your opinion.
Facts since Bloom arrived –
1 – MLB Talent level is down
2 – Deals for minor league players have back=fired
3 – Downs was Bloom’s best acquired prospect and he’s a bust
4 – Cora hired by Bloom
5 – Cora still making daily mistakes like starting Peacock instead of Sale
6 – Farm system gained 250 points thanks to Mayer not trades
7 – Best players graduating from farm system predate Bloom (left by DD)
8 – Ticket prices haven’t gone down.
9 – Merchandise hasn’t gone down despite the talent drop-off
10 = The rush to get under the cap was not followed with a rush to go back over so the 2 year plan to get under would have made more sense and kept the talent level higher
11 – The current payroll without arbitration player increases for 2022 is $80M plus the $22M if JD opts to stay and $11M if both BOS and Schwarber mutually agree to a contract and $16M of the $80M is for Price who will pitch for the Dodgers!! I can see why signing Mookie wasn’t possible, they were only going to be $80M under the cap by 2022!!!
At least Bloom will be comfortable with the payroll soon. It’s nearly down to $100M which is still high for TB but clearly a small market payroll!!!
GASoxFan: Who are all of the “trade chips of value” the Red Sox had to wheel and deal with at the trade deadline? Do they really have enough to trade a bunch for help now and keep some for the future? In my opinion the answer is no. Not yet.
AITSTYW – I want to answer your question for GASoxFan because the answer has been preached by many on this site and I have disagreed which aligns me with your opinion.
The STAR minor league players that should have been used at the deadline begin with Downs and Wong and even Verdugo. Throw in Potts and Seabold too. Lets see if they really do have value or is Bloom just blowing smoke up our shorts with these prospects all being great acquisitions. I see Downs falling from his over-rated 44th prospect spot by hitting .190 at AAA. Super prospect? I think not. Sold as a super prospect by Bloom? ABSOLUTELY. Has Verdugo made an all-star team yet? NOPE. Was he a professed star in the making by Bloom? YES. Is that true? Nope he’s a slightly above league average outfielder much like Benintendi until the coaching staff fixed his swing.
I believe you are right that the trash Bloom has accumulated might not have bought the team much in help from other teams who don’t see these guys as budding stars. For me, the budding stars are the same guys that they have always been, the graduating players from a much maligned farm system that just keeps cranking out starting MLB players. Trading Dalbec or Duran isn’t advisable in my opinion but for me you could NOT stop the words “Downs and Wong” from coming out of my mouth when talking to other GMs. Maybe Bloom could spin their value like Friedman did and suddenly make them seem twice as good as their actual skills. It would be worth a try. Otherwise, there is a good chance neither will actually contribute to the MLB team and if they do contribute it will be in a reserve role not as a starter like Betts, Bogaerts, Devers, JBJ, Dalbec, Duran, Vazquez or Houck.
“Do we really have enough to trade a bunch for now and keep some for the future?” You say no, not yet. I say yes please.
DD had the concept of the farm system right. The farm players are resources that either contribute on the MLB level or get traded for a player needed at the MLB level. There is no “worth” in farm players. They are futures that are only cashed in one of two ways. Stockpiling players is assumed to be a good thing. It’s not. It can be if the players eventually provide one or the two values I’ve defined but many just linger in the minors providing no value. So your stock piling idea is flawed.
The MLB club has 8 defensive positions and a DH spot. It has a 5 man rotation with 8 relievers one of which is a closer. All farm players need to be eventually slotted to replace a MLB player at one of the spots or traded so a player from another team can fill the spot needed.
Today, Casas is a farm system person that plays 1B. Dalbec plays 1B, The team is trying to get Schwarber to play 1B. Bloom has also filled the team with utility guys who could play 1B too. Does it seem like we might be too deep at 1B today? I think so. Do we have shortages? I think so. First we need SPs, then we need relievers including a real closer. All these spots can be filled but you must be willing to either pay for a Free Agent or trade a current resource to acquire the talent at the lacking position.
Since Price departed there is a hole at the #2 SP position. Scherzer would have been a HUGE add that might have made 2022 a playoff season. With all the 1Bs, Downs, Wong, Seabold and Potts I think Bloom should have used his farm resources to fix a very bad hole in the current pitching staff. The farm system crazies would scream at the idea as if the farm system actually provided value in other ways than I have described but it doesn’t. The use of the farm players to get the needed MLB player is EXACTLY how it is intended to be used by successful organizations.
Could deadline talent have been procured by Bloom? Absolutely. Could it have made a difference in 2021? Maybe if it was significant enough and targeted at the key areas of need. DD procured a closer and a solid SP for Philadelphia. Two things Boston needed too. Bloom got Schwarber a bad outfielder to play 1B. Could we have found prospects to get players like Ian Kennedy and Kyle Gibson? Absolutely. They cost Philly less than $400K (about the same as Shaw!!)
The trade deadline didn’t have to be a disaster and the last two years didn’t have to transpire with an undefined plan for reacquiring talent. On day one Bloom should have fought to keep Mookie to maintain the talent level. With $80M of open payroll in 2022 it would have made sense to do what the Dodgers did by offering him $30M a year for 10 or 12 years and a $65M bonus in 2022. The Red Sox were already paying him $27M so the $30M would have been a $3M a year raise with a bonus in a year when the payroll was low. Creative financing of super stars should be a prerequisite to becoming a GM.
Lets just hope someone defines a plan by position for the future Red Sox roster. Lets also hope the ownership group pulls their heads out of the hind quarters and realizes they are making less money by not competing for a ring. Their ill advised austerity program needs to end now.
Thanks KD, quick end to an early night with the back pills.
BUT, I’d go one step further.
I’d trade anyone, ANYONE, who gave a meaningful upgrade commensurate with value. Wong? Gone. Seabold? Gone. Even houck? Verdugo? Devers? Gone. Nobody is untouchable for the proper return.
Odds are you don’t usually match up. But, if the player coming back, years on deal, and contract made sense. Anyone remember Garciaparra heading out of town in the midst of a postseason race?
I don’t advocate trading every guy every year. But there were plenty of pieces you could move, and, Chavis was a giveaway that was wasted.
Just admit bloom screwed up this year.
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I’m required to go by the records. I cannot believe he screwed up, when we are playing far better than anyone expected. That’s an emotional response, not a rational approach.
Again, this is not Bloom’s fault. This falls on ownership for refusing to spend the money needed to put a true contender on the field. I’m shocked they have played as well as they have given the holes in their roster, but ownership knew they would have to exceed the cap and drain the farm system at the trade deadline to be true competitors this year; neither of which they wanted to do. I guarantee Bloom told them it would take 3-5 years to turn this roster over and get young, inexpensive talent in place. That seems like what they are going for and they are trying (poorly) to mimic the Giants while doing so.
Dorothy. If the idea is to turn that roster over rip the bandaid off and trade off guys before they hit FA or only have one year left.
If the idea is to contend do it.
But don’t sit there in purgatory while burning away valuable years of control for no return while you won’t go for it.
Also, guys like Raffy should’ve been extended a while ago. And yet, now the claim will be another “just can’t afford him” when they could’ve offset some FA years by the low salary controllable ones. 20m/4 plus 25m/5 is 145/9. Now they’ll be looking at demands for 275/10.
If the idea is to turn that roster over rip the bandaid off
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Why would we be ripping bandaids off? We have the 8th best record in baseball. Everyone returns but Richards, Perez, and Ottavino, and that frees up $24M, plus $17M from Pedey and Benni not needing to be supplemented.
Uhh….so you’re happy watching an 8th place team year after year after year?
This type of argument applied in 2019. 2020. 2021. Now we hear it’s the same for 2022. And soon 2023.
Benny ABSOLUTELY needs to be replaced for 2022. The sox don’t have 3 mlb ready OF, two of which need to be CF types because of how RF plays. Duran showed he may not really be ready. As much as his speed is missed, and, the juiced AAA ball isn’t helping evaluations on anyone.
One would argue 2B is a problem. 1B should be dalbec, if Cora would stop screwing with him and letting him play. Devers really should be a 3B and move JDM, and you need a 3B.
And the pitching needs work, both rotation and pen. As it has every year under bloom.
Really you need an everyday CF, 3B, 2B, pair of SP, and a good 3 relief arms. Whitlock should get a shot at closer, he seems to thrive in the position and more than one RP got screwed up by a SP conversion. I’d throw a backup C into the mix as well.
You take for granted erod returning, and, even with the down year probably costs more than he did this year anyways. So you’ve got the end of eovaldi, plus sale, houck, and possibly seabold who would probably be a mid season callup given IP limits he would face.
No, each year that goes by more holes open, guys get older and more expensive, and the only constant is bloom ignoring a competitive window and his apologists keep saying “next year.”
Should read “Devers shouldn’t really be a 3b”
Dorothy – Are you a management plant or what? My god nothing you say is true. Bloom doesn’t have the balls to say no to ownership but you have him telling the it would take 3-5 years to turn this roster over? Turn it over to who? To what? It was a roster filled with players in their prime. This wasn’t an old roster you nimrod this was a perfectly calculated team in it’s prime until Bloom destroyed it. A normal age distribution curve with JD on the high side and Devers on the low side.
You are just making up crap!!!
Nothing you say is true. It’s all propaganda not factual. Quit misleading the readers. Speak the truth or don’t speak at all!!!!
The Giant’s? What? Yet another misguided tangent with no meaning. They are NOTHING like the Giants!! The Giants didn’t trade POSEY.
Stop. Just stop making crap up and pretending it’s true. If you aren’t being paid by ownership or Bloom’s marketing team you should be. Spinning everything to seem different than it is, how does that benefit you? You know the rise in the farm system ranking had nothing to do with the acquisitions by Bloom it’s all about the draft pick they got from being horse crap in 2020. Yet you credit Bloom? WHY? You are either getting paid or really don’t understand baseball. Which is it?
GASoxFan
Uhh….so you’re happy watching an 8th place team year after year after year?
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I’m happy with being the 8th best team in BB this year. And we are well within striking distance of #5.
Longer term, everyone wants to improve, and our long-term prognosis has improved. And there is no way around admitting these facts.
Past that, I have difficulty understanding your thought process. It feels like you are having trouble processing the fact that we are a good team, and are on pace for 92 wins.
So let me ask you a question: if we do win the 91-92 games we are on pace for, and make the playoffs, would you be happy or disappointed?
This is ridiculous. The yankees went through the same thing and they won games. Bloom, Cora and the coaching staff are the real reason the sox are nonentities since the all star game
Before the season, you guys were a huge favorite to finish 1st, and many people projected us for 4th place. For all your brave talk, you’re still only 2 games ahead of us.
JB – Wake up. In 10 days that’s going to be 5 or more and it may not take that long. The only reason the Red Sox are close is that Boone is nearly as bad as Cora. He’s playing Gardner and sitting Voit!!! He’s a moron just like Cora.
Stick a fork in the season JB. TB is doing to Boston exactly what I told you. Now a COVID outbreak hits too!! The early season luck is gone. Now they have to stand on their talent and they are lacking big time.
I’ll give yuo credit; you managed to make just as many mistakes in two paragraphs as you do in your 15-paragraph rants.
I’ll let you slide on the 5-game deficit thing since it a prediction, but wondering why Boone is playing Gardner over Voit is not something anyone in the world would suggest. Gardner is their only CF. Theoretically, you could start Gallo or Judge in CF, and move Stanton to LF, but that’s an awful alignment.
In addition, Gardner has a .799 OPS since July. He continues to be a good player.
In addition, your suggestion that Voit should be starting brings us full circle to the Rizzo trade. All Rizzo did was to replace Voit in the lineup. Since Voit has a .955 OPS since July, how much has Rizzo improved them? He is certainly a good fielder, but Voit is certainly hitting better.
Their play since the ASG is only slightly poor. They are actually only one game under .500, while having a positive run differential. And 30-45 games were against the NYY, TB, and TO.
Against weak teams, we look like a .600 team, and against good teams, we look like a .500 team. FWIW, this goes for every team in BB. When Atlanta won 9 in a row, it was largely because they played Washington, Miami, and Baltimore.
The they lined up 8 against the NYY, LAD and SFG, and they went 2-6. That’s the way the schedule impacts things. This game is more linear than people realize. When teams get hot and cold, the quality of the opposition and their record in one-run games is probably at least half the reason for their success/failure..
Seems like yesterday the A’s were trading for him and then trading him away.
great to see Gonsalves get another shot
I’m both surprised and disappointed that they didn’t call Connor Seabold up. He has the highest upside of any pitcher they could have called up from AA or AAA right now.
Calling up seabold is another example of going for it… which bloom never intended to.
Yeah, either that or he just pitched recently and the RS want to keep him schedule.
Yeah, either that or bloom didn’t want to give him a shot after the August 21st start, when the team has been sliding backwards through subpar outings by guys not named sale/eovaldi, and to a lesser extent, houck.
Because, you know. Why try to win.
GASoxFan – My take isn’t that Bloom and Cora are trying to lose. My take is they have no idea how to do their jobs. The net result of both your theory and mine is the same. Failure. I’m just a believer in ineptitude rather than a plot to lose. But a plot to lose makes about as much sense as the other actions of the last two years since DD was dismissed.
For those of us old enough to remember before this ownership group took over, this Sept will rival many of the seasons between 1918 and 2004!!
KD, it’s less a plot to lose than not willing to try to win.
Both born of ineptitude, but, bloom is desperate to show he can live up to the claims that got him hired.
And spending farm assets to win a title isn’t what he pitched to Henry & Co.
Likewise, knowing he can’t win in 2021 due to his mistakes, bloom would rather a higher pick in next year’s draft than a slightly higher middle pack finish by trying his hardest. So why bring up the guys best positioned to help you win rather than hold more retread auditions that you hope give you something to point to your ability to find hidden gems?
GASoxFan
Yeah, either that or bloom didn’t want to give him a shot after the August 21st start,
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But, of course, mine is a factual statement, and yours is not.
Henry, et al., got the Red Sox a World Series win that hadn’t been seen since 1918. Now, as long as tv money keeps pouring in and fans buy tickets and they have the payroll costs on the way down, what do they care? They’ve got a team in a major soccer league, a racing team, etc., to keep them busy. Give the club a star or two and the fans will keep on coming.
Roush Fenway Racing has been a relative dumpsterfire compared to its heyday as well.
ottoc 2
what do they care?
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You act as if 2004 was it, and conveniently ignore 3 other WSCs.