Acquiring one of the game’s better power hitters in Kyle Schwarber doesn’t exactly make for a quiet deadline season, though compared to what other AL contenders did in July, the Red Sox were comparatively modest in picking up Schwarber and relievers Hansel Robles and Austin Davis. Chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom told MLB.com’s Ian Browne and other reporters that the Sox looked into several trade possibilities, but teams put a very high price tag on pitchers in particular, leaving Bloom’s front office unwilling to sacrifice too much of the future for a short-term gain.
“There were a lot of things that were put to us where we just felt we’re not doing our jobs and ultimately we’re going to let our fans down, whether it be tomorrow or whether it be next year or the year after or all of the above if we did some of things we could’ve done to make more of a splash,” Bloom said. The $210MM luxury tax threshold “was never a hard line” that prevented the Sox from making a trade, and Bloom said the team indeed considered some moves that would put them in excess of the $210MM figure. However, “we just didn’t feel like it was worth the cost in talent, let alone the additional effects of going over the line.”
Bloom also denied a report that ownership put pressure on the front office to land Max Scherzer. The Sox were known to have interest in the former Nationals ace, and Scherzer was reportedly open to the idea of waiving his no-trade protection to come to Boston, before he eventually agreed to be dealt to the Dodgers.
More from Fenway Park…
- Chris Sale threw 81 pitches over five innings in a Triple-A rehab start yesterday, the longest stint to date of his four minor league rehab outings. Working a more standard game appeared to Sale, who told The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier and other reporters that “I’m starting to get into more of a normal routine and more of fighting the same fight everyone else is fighting, instead of having an injured elbow, fighting back, rehabbing. I don’t feel that way. That’s big.” Sale mostly threw his fastball in the 91-93mph range but occasionally reared back to touch the 96mph mark, while striking out seven and allowing one run (on five hits and a walk) over his five innings. The left-hander is scheduled for one more Triple-A rehab start this week, and he could then potentially make his long-awaited return to the Red Sox rotation.
- Second-round pick Jud Fabian won’t be signing with the Red Sox, as a tweet from his personal account more or less (with an assist from Eminem) officially stated he will return to the University of Florida for his senior year. A $1,856,700 slot price is attached to the 40th overall selection, and rumors have circulated that the two sides were a good distance apart in negotiations — The Athletic’s Peter Gammons reported that Fabian could have landed $3MM from two teams that picked later than the Sox in the second round. Due to remaining pool space, MLB Pipeline’s Jim Callis writes that the Sox couldn’t give Fabian more than a $2,100,680 bonus without having to surrender a future first-round pick as punishment for exceeding their pool spending by more than five percent. The Red Sox will receive the 41st overall selection in next year’s draft as compensation for not signing Fabian.
Get Off My Mound
Chris Sale threw 81 innings in 5 innings aye? Thats pretty spectacular.
natsgm
Normally i hate commenting on the writing errors but this one is too funny
Get Off My Mound
And normally I hate these too, but I just couldn’t pass it up. Lol.
dodger1958
Pete you didn’t go to Taft did you?
5TUNT1N
Sale threw 81 Innings in a rehab , subsequently he needs another TJS.
User 4095290658
They tried to make me go to rehab… I said ‘no, no, no!’
jlauer003
I see what you did there!
User 4095290658
Poor Amy, ten years gone this week. Camden Town’s finest.
TheTrotsky
It’s all that damn Pete Doherty’s fault.
User 4095290658
Can’t stand me now.
hoff38
As a senior he will not have the same leverage so $1.8m sounds better than $50k (he may get more if he has a great senior year). Plus he gets to start his pro career now. On the surface this does not sound like a smart plan for him.
redsoxu571
It’ll work out if his stock rebounds to him being a top 20 pick next year, but that is indeed a tight margin of error. He has the talent to do it, though!
bobtillman
I don’t remember any senior getting picked in the top 20. LOTS and lots of times they have a poor year or get hurt, and wind up with 50K. if they’re lucky. Not a real good move on his part, or for that matter the Sox; they should have known better. And ya, they get the pick back next year. But the system needs refreshing THIS year.
Another poor Bloom move. This and not being aggressive on Friday, while the Jays, Yanks and Rays got better, is just poor management.
mookiessnarl
I mean it’s disappointing sure, but it was either give him the best offer and hope he took it or lose a pick next year. There are plenty of ways to get new players into the system that aren’t the draft. I don’t think he was going to make or break the future.
Ronk325
I’m not sure if you’re strictly talking about position players but Mark Appel was taken 1st overall as a senior in 2013
all in the suit that you wear
I don’t see the problem with the Sox gambling on the Fabian pick. They will get a do-over next year. So, if there ever was a time to gamble, this was it. They also kept Fabian away from the Orioles. Looks like Fabian is a gambler too.
deweybelongsinthehall
Bob,
I totally disagree. Very short term view by the kid or those guiding him. Succeeding in a big market and potentially starting his pro career one year earlier put this in my view not on Bloom. Who was giving him $3m? Foolish move by the kid’s advisors in my opinion and Bloom likely expected him to come around.
deweybelongsinthehall
Like the Orioles will pay him? How many owners are cheaper? Boston usually compromises a little above the midpoint in arb years and if he’s any good, he’d have made more in Boston than in Baltimore leading up to free agency. The first contract (signing out of college) is not the one you go for broke on unless you don’t want to play in Boston to begin with
KD17
Bob – Outstanding. Bloom continues to be terrible at his job. I think new phrases like “he pulled a Bloom” means he went cheap and came up empty will go well with phrases like ‘he pulled a Devers’ meaning he made an error. Or maybe when money is involved the phrase is ‘he Bloomed it’ meaning he pretended to be doing something but nothing happened.
The deadline was Bloomed. Now the draft was Bloomed. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news but put a pin in the season. If the Red Sox lose tonight they will be four losses ahead of both the Yankees and Toronto and three losses in front of Oakland with 55 games left (one-third of the season plus a game).
Rizzo was a huge add while Schwarber sits on the IL. Cruz was a huge add while Schwarber has no position he can play defensively. Berrios, Hand and Soria were a huge add while Robles is a small part of a bullpen that needed a closer. Tell me, would you rather have Graveman or Robles? Houston got the better player and they have an excellent closer, much better than Barnes. Why much better than Barnes? Because we’ve all seen Barnes choke in the past but we haven’t seen Pressly choke in the past.
Bloom the blunderer. Devers the butcher of Boston. Cora the timex of cheaters, he takes a lickin and keeps on cheatin. Someone needs to start printing the t-shirts!!
bobtillman
As Dorothy notes below, he’s a draft eligible soph who’s betting on himself to increase his standing. I don’t have an issue with that; he’s betting on himself, an admirable trait.
But apparently the new Bosox FO can’t navigate the bonus system. It’s not easy, and there’s all kinds of under-handedness about it, but it is what it is, and they’re paid to live with it.
bobtillman
Yep. No excuse not to act aggressively at the trade deadline. Folks can whine about Moncada and Kopech all day long; Flags Fly Forever, and they ain’t gettin’ the flag without Sale. I don’t care if Moncada and Kopech got to the HOF.
All their competitors in AL East got better; getting Schwarber just kept them running in the same place. It’s baseball, not a crystal ball, so I won’t predict the future. But a 4th place finish isn’t out of the question.
A sacrilege on a team with the middle of the order (and other decent parts) that they have.
deweybelongsinthehall
The team is in first plXe still with two months left in a year when very view thought the Sox had a shot at making the playoffs. KD, sorry but overall, I view Bloom as a B+ to A- with a chance to improve to an A+ so far if the team somehow wins it all. I’ve supported DD who through most of his chips in and won in 28 but crapped out in 19. Bloom is looking long term. Look at his bid of work after 23 for a fair comparison. I said it before, TE, BS and DD all produced titles so the bar is high. Bloom is looking to pull off what only Epstein has done, win and consistently stay competitive in years you don’t have a duck boat parade.
deweybelongsinthehall
Neither is a championship flag or still a fourth place finish after making major moves and depleting the farm that was quickly rebuilt. Bottom line is Bloom did not believe short term moves that were additionally possible were worth the risk. Remember DD was brought in after two last place finished with orders to win at all costs. Bloom’s hiring orders were vastly different so let’s give him the time to do what he was hired to do. See my above other post. So far, the team is ahead of schedule.
KD17
Dewey = So the run this season was fun because it was completely unexpected after Bloom butchered the roster or was ordered to butcher the roster depending on your point of view. Now reality is sinking in and this year will be exactly what Red Sox fans didn’t want. A middle finish that gets no playoff games and no good draft pick.
2020 was the result of Bloom and ownership’s actions but it did get the team the fourth pick in the draft and an excellent player fell to the fourth pick. Since the draft occurred in 2021 the luck of the player falling to fourth parallels the luck of a talent depleted team coasting to 1st thru 106 games. Unfortunately there are 162 games and the lead disappeared in one series with TB and in the next month we will see the first wildcard turn into the second wild card turn into the first spot out of the playoffs to the second spot outside the playoffs. A crap draft spot and no post season. Why? A lack of action by Bloom. I guess his long-term plan didn’t include procuring real talent until year 3? 5? 10?
What the roster needed was an injection of talent to fill needs. What it got was a talented guy who doesn’t fit anywhere and a set-up man to go with all the newly acquired set-up men. Yes, it’s beginning to look like the Yankee roster except they buy premiere set-up men and the Red Sox buy K=MART set-up men.
The fans have given Bloom two years and what has he done? He’s torn the heart out of many fans with his Mookie giveaway. He’s received players at the wrong positions in almost every deal he’s made. He had one bright spot realizing Pivetta was rushed to the majors and actually had talent. Then he reversed his ONE smart move with this dumb trade of Benny who got the same type of career path that Pivetta got in Phillie. He finally had a chance to ACTUALLY impact what happens on the field and he choked grabbing Schwarber instead of Rizzo or so many other better qualified 1Bs. He then neglected to actually fill the biggest need and get a SP.
That’s a lot of screw ups in less than two years. Each minute we keep the guy adds 10 minutes to the time it will take to win another ring. His system isn’t working 2 years into his program. The farm players who look good right now were in Boston before Bloom arrived. The product on the field is far less than it was when he arrived and he rehired a manager who got caught cheating punished once and should have been punished twice if the timing of the discovery of the incidents had been different and players actually stepped up and told the truth.
Compare that to DD who got less than 5 years. DD came in made some key additions to the roster including Sale and the team’s success was enormous. He hires on in August 2015 and they win 26 of their last 44 games. They win the division the next 3 years including the World Series in his 3rd full year. They might have won in his second year but they lost to Houston in 2017 when Houston cheated.
After doing so much for Boston fans DD is dismissed because he wants to bring Mookie back and the owners don’t. They want to increase profits. They dismiss DD with a slap in the face and then they begrudgingly fire the instigator of the greatest cheating scandal in the history of the sport. What’s wrong with that picture? The cheater practically gets a vacation at Club Med and DD get the old “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out”. Some very screwed up behavior on the part of ownership.
Bloom got hired in October of 2019 and immediately proved to be ineffective. Challenged with Cherington’s retained payroll he was asked to get under the cap.. So any good GM would start with non-tenders in December. Not Bloom, non tenders never included the players earning far more than their contribution like JBJ. This great opportunity to carve the $228M payroll by nearly $14M as his first act, NEVER HAPPENED.
Two months later, Bloom sends the face of the franchise to LAD prematurely and compounds the problem by INCREASING the dead contracts rather than reducing them. Roster disaster and financial disaster. It’s like taking a loan when you are too far in debt. It made no sense to give LAD money for Price. Less than six months and the mistakes are huge!! He hurt the talent level of the roster while decreasing the available payroll for 2020!! What a blockhead!!
Then for 18 months he acquired utility players and minor league players none of whom have impacted the success of the team SUBSTANTIALLY. Why substantially? Because many of the players were relievers and utility players. Utility players are a dime a dozen and the impact of their play is inconsequential compared the alternative utility player. The relievers fall into the same boat. One year Hembree looked good the next he didn’t. The same can be said about Kelly, Barnes, Workman and countless other Red Sox relievers since 2018. Will the 2021 relievers be as good next year? Not likely. It’s the nature of most relievers except the quality relievers that actually cost money. Then, the issue is staying healthy more than performance. So is the man brilliant for acquiring average relievers at low costs? Or is that just a small part of his job? You know what the big part of his job is? Acquiring impact talent. He’s not done that. He’s only at best acquired complimentary talent.
So Blooms net add is a half dozen average utility players, a bunch of hopeful minor league players who may not be better than what the Red Sox had before he arrived and a power-hitting left handed hitter who has no real position where he can play adequate defense.
Bloom subtracted the best player in the franchise, a developing left fielder who had played a key role in the Red Sox success since he joined them just a few short years ago, a SP with a Cy Young who helped win the World Series before Bloom got to Boston, If you put the adds and subtractions on a teeter tauter the subtractions would be touching the ground and the additions would be at their summit.
If you think 2022 is going to be better than 2021 you are dreaming and thinking with your heart not your head. Only three star hitters and all had career years in 2021 like the top three in 2018 did. In 2019 they weren’t as good because they regressed to the mean and will do so in 2022. That leaves a bunch of utility players to pick up the slack. That’s not going to happen. The fake farm system boost won’t be showing dividends because the talent level didn’t rise. Next year’s graduates will be more of the players that existed prior to Bloom like Duran, Houck and Dalbec.
The Bloom schedule is so slow for building a champion that I’m thinking I’ve seen the last ring I’m going to see. They need a new GM to build back the confidence of fans. Some of the fans are drinking the Cool-Aid like you but many realize that it’s all smoke and mirrors. Lots of media hype but no substance. The only redeeming thing that Bloom can do for me to consider supporting him would be to fire Cora and that’s not going to happen because Cora has more pull with ownership than Bloom. Remember, Cora had something on ownership related to the Boston cheating scandal and Cora’s actions with the players and not talking to the commissioner allowed the scandal to go away so they owe him. He’s got a job for a long time based on the embarrassment he saved them by not confessing that he was in on it and had shared what they were doing with ownership.
Dewey – I will give you this. I evaluate players based on performance and I do the same with GMs. If Bloom ACTUALLY does something worthy of recognition I will recognize it but until then I will continue to point out the many, many shortcomings of both Bloom and Cora. They suck at their jobs. 2022 will be the year both will be exposed just like 2019 proved to fans that Cora didn’t make them winners in 2018 and Bloom didn’t make them winners in 2021. JD, Bogey and Devers did!!
deweybelongsinthehall
KD, your response is way too long. Shirt and sweet:. Bloom did not gut the team as you state. Had they resigned Mookie, the only way to have done it was to vastly overpay especially in years. He never wanted to stay so money and too many years was the only way. That would have gutted the team as the matching orders were to reset in 2020.
SoxRule
You have things so wrong, so mixed up…Bloom built that Tampa Bay team that keeps besting us. Bloom has our farm system strong again, with more players, the future of the team in Downs, Casis, etc. The Red Sox are in the second year of a rebuild and they are fighting for first place despite being underrated by everyone in Baseball. Why are they this good now? Kike has been a great addition. He brought in one of the best right fielders in baseball who wins games with his bat and his arm, Verdugo is Bloom’s, and you uninformed, depressed dope, Mookie was not and is not worth what the Dodgers paid him, we’re doing better than when Mookie was here in 2018. Now we have Verdugo. Downs is the future at 2nd, Casis is the future at 1st….The list of great things he’s done goes on and on. You’re adding Sale, Schwarber, Houck to this team? We’re very, very good, and Bloom deserves much of the credit. And we’re loading up with more and more prospects…
bergyman
KD,Please write a response,not a book.Every GM makes good and bad decisions,Chaim `s made more good than bad……Kike`,Hunter,and trading JBJ are good examples among many.Felger would be proud of your pessimism.
MafiaBass
You sound like somebody that doesn’t know enough about baseball to know they don’t know enough. Iirc, that’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Last year’s 24-36 was a fluke. We were looking at the scrapheap’s scrapheap. The Red Sox haven’t been that bad a team at any point in my life. Even the 2012 disaster was better.
Right now, this team is 5 games up on its Pythagorean W/L%. They’ve been playing their butts off all year and have been getting breaks. Unless they’re on pace to win over 100 games, I’ve found that August is deciding month for the Sox usually. If they get it together and win 20 games this month, they’re going to the playoffs. If the slump a bit and are maybe a game or two over .500? Early offseason.
Remember, we’re getting hopefully 10 starts from Sale, and maybe Houck will get to stay this time. Then Richards, Perez, and Rodriguez can sort themselves out (preferably at least one of them off the 40-man)
Dorothy_Mantooth
Due to the extra year of Covid eligibility, Fabian is only considered a sophomore so he has two more seasons of eligibility. If he does well this season, he’ll be a high first round pick and make north of $4M. While I hate to see Boston lose out on him, the kid probably made the right decision for himself.
bobtillman
Yep. I stand corrected about HIS angle. Not about the Sox’ tho.
JoeBrady
I liked the pick, and wished we had signed him. But Fabian is no lock. He fell as far as he did due to contact issues. That could return.
And this is why teams should be allowed to trade picks. There are probably a couple of teams out there that are under-slot, and have no one to spend it on.
deweybelongsinthehall
Even with what you said, he’s betting against himself in that he’ll get signed for what he wants but also that he won’t make the majors. if he’s as good as some believe, the idea is to sign and start the time clock so the big money can be earned. If he’s that good, that one year becomes millions.
jdgoat
Fire that AAA manager ASAP
Keithbw22
81 innings is damn near half a year of usage.
nyy17 2
Maybe if his parents named him Judd instead of Jud he wouldn’t be so pretentious and take the deal. Reminds me of the kid Robbert I knew. He got beat up in the cafeteria for a dumb spelling of his name.
Inside Out
Red Sox are idiots for wasting a pick. Lost development time and they knew what he wanted to sign. Payback will be sweet when they get just a wildcard slot and are out after one game.
deweybelongsinthehall
Everyone “wants” but few get.
JoeBrady
fffbbb3 mins ago
Red Sox are idiots for wasting a pick.
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It’s not a waste of a pick. They get the same pick next year. This was mentioned in the article.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Not to be a stickler but they get the very next pick, not the same pick. The Mets will get the 11th overall pick for drafting Rocker #10 and the Sox will get the 5th pick of the second round after selecting Fabian #4 overall in Round 2. Everyone goes down a notch.
JoeBrady
I knew that, but too lazy to type that much.
all in the suit that you wear
Yes, the Sox took a gamble on a first round talent at pick 40 and will get a do-over next year. I like the thinking out of the box. Also, I think the ~$250K that could have gone to Fabian can go to other draft picks such as Nathan Hickey.
KD17
JB – You must count the time value of the delay. At best it’s one year lost. At worst the pick next year is a bust and this year’s pick becomes an all-star.
Clearly, Bloom needs to learn his job. That’s what happens when you hire an apprentice!!
deweybelongsinthehall
KD, there are no crystal balls. Bottom line is Bloom has the team in better position than most thought possible, he reset the tax situation for future flexibility and re-stocked the farm far faster than we all thought possible. Plus, he inked KH and HR. While not all of his moves have worked, how can any knowledgeable Sox fan complain?
JoeBrady
“how can any knowledgeable Sox fan complain?”
There are fans like that for every team. They make up their mind that they hate the GM or manager, and no matter how successful that GM or manager is, they will continue to hate the GM or manager.
KD17
Dewey – As an ex-player I believe the players have the team in a better position than most thought possible. There was no reason to reset the tax quickly unless the plan is to going over the next year. Ownership POCKETED tons of money that would have kept the team competitive. For 20 years they re-invested in the future then it suddenly stopped and left the fans watching the most atrocious team in half a century.
The farm system IS NOT re-stocked. The contributing players graduating are all from before Bloom showed up. Signing KH rather than Semien was not a stellar move. Renfroe has worked out like Pearce in 2018. He’s had a spot of luck like DD did in 2018.
The better question is how can any knowledgeable fan NOT COMPLAIN? He’s been horse crap from day one. I’ve detailed it above.
deweybelongsinthehall
The system is restocked. Maybe not to where YOU want it but given the inability today to sign international players like in the past and in place slot money, the deals he’s made have been overall good to great. As for last year, 99% of Sox fans knew in 2018 that the bill was coming due in 20. DD tried to repeat instead of breaking it down in 19 and injuries ruined any chance.
deweybelongsinthehall
Thanks Joe. I needed the reminder that some will always look for the negative or once their mind is made up, the blinders appear.
JoeBrady
There was a guy on another board who, after Tito won his 2nd WSC, said that Tito could win the next 10 in a row and he wouldn’t admit he was a good manager. They do the same with players. They will start off disliking someone as a rookie, maybe the guy struck out with the game on the line, and that’s it. I knew a couple of guys who wanted Bogaerts DFAd, and I am trying to explain to them that he is going to get $100M contract.
If it helps, this is the same in real life.
JoeBrady
It’s a mathematical fallacy. If the ‘at worst is a bust and he blossoms, then the ‘at best’ is just the opposite, that he busts and next year’s pick becomes an all-star. The choices are mirror images.
JoeBrady
Nice ERA and all, but only 7 Ks in 81 innings?
Dorothy_Mantooth
It would have been more impressive if he pitched 81 innings with only 5 pitches being thrown.
KD17
JB – The ERA is based on whether a guy Ks people or gets them to ground out or pop out. Pitchers don’t need to have high Ks to be effective. Your modern metrics have created an obscured view of the player.
JoeBrady
He obviously didn’t have 81 IPs in his last outing. Everyone in here is joking about it. Your hatred of Bloom, Cora, the RS and Boston is warping your sense of humor.
KD17
JB – NO. I’m laughing because I got the joke but took the time out to bust on you a bit for fun. I apologize.
MafiaBass
Hey, I think there might be a typo in the first sentence about Chris Sale lol
tstats
How did Eminem help?
GaryWarriorsRedSox
Click on the Tweet above in the article. He used an Eminem song to say he’s back.
Goose
The miss wasn’t on Scherzer but Berrios. Berrios gives you strong innings and he had 1 year of arbitration left if you couldn’t get a long term deal. A Sale/Berrios 1-2 would have given them a chance down the stretch and into the playoffs.
Fabian was a good gamble. If he signs you get good value at the 2nd pick. If he doesn’t you get the pick back next year with a slight downgrade. Considering how the draft is compared to the other sports it really was a good, calculated risk.
Frickster1402
For what the Blue Jays gave up I’m assuming the asking price for Berrios would’ve been Casas, Duran, and probably one more prospect Bloom made a smart move not trading for him
JoeBrady
I thought Berrios was hugely expensive. I think BA rated Martin #15, and Richardson #52, IIRC. I’ll wait this one out.
DarkSide830
i dunno how it’s a great idea to get excited about a guy who fails to hit .250 in his final college season
Altuves Buzzer
Good news is Red Sox are hitting the skids, and finally going to drop off the cliff we’ve all been waiting for
Bad news is the rays are inexplicable going to play better
Let’s go Jays
Frickster1402
There is no cliff for the Red Sox to fall off of and the Jays are 8 games below, focus on getting ahead of the Yankees before you talk
…. Let’s go Sox
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I do agree though… as good as we’ve been, I can’t see us going far with this pitching.
JoeBrady
At a minimum, we need a vintage Sale, and a good ERod & Eovaldi.
BeforeMcCourt
So you need 2018 to nearly completely repeat on the pitching side, at a minimum?
tstats
You guys choose great pics!
bosox2004
Jud Fabian, you’re an idiot. How can you look your father in the eye and say $2 million isn’t good enough. You’ve never ever played pro ball yet? Hope you get hurt, and have to settle on being a HS baseball coach
tstats
Salty much?
MafiaBass
That’s a crappy take. Really crappy.
So, he didn’t sign and most people probably think that was kind of dumb of him. Maybe we’re right. Maybe his bet on himself pays off.
Either way, wishing an injury on somebody is neither appropriate nor acceptable. Sort yourself out.
LordD99
So, basically the Red Sox picked Fabian knowing he had better offers, but hoped to force him to sign at slot and give up more than $1M?
If so, good for the kid sticking to his demands. The risk is he goes back to college and gets injured, or the loss of leverage since he’ll graduate as a college senior, who have the least leverage in the draft.
JoeBrady
No one knows that he had better offers. I assume about 100% of all agents tell you that their client is in great demand. The fact that no one drafted him prior to us means no one thought his ask was appropriate.
BeforeMcCourt
Cmon man. These guys are talking to all the teams in the area they’re expected to go so teams know bonus demands. He knows what teams were offering. What’s the point in lying now? It won’t help next year
You’re so salty that Bloom screwed with this guys career and thought he could pressure him to drop his demands by 33%+, and you’re blaming the player?! Would you fold that easily?
MafiaBass
Offers are irrelevant if the team talking doesn’t draft you.
LetGoOfMyLeg
Tidbit on Chris Sale from the WEEI website
“Sale will be making another rehab outing with the WooSox, this one coming in Scranton (“The Electric City”). But it’s how he is planning on getting there which is the true takeaway.
““You can bet your (expletive) I’m getting on that bus with the guys on Monday,”” said Sale”
bradthebluefish
How would the teams after the Red Sox have more slot money than the Red Sox? What happened here?
GaryWarriorsRedSox
Perhaps they did what the Sox did last year.. pick a guy way higher than he should have been and pay him a lot less. Saves more money for later rounds?
dasit
nice to see all the griping about bloom. red sox fans are officially as entitled as me and my fellow yankee fans
GaryWarriorsRedSox
There’s just one guy griping about bloom. The rest of us can see we’re a game and a half out of first place in August.
There’s been too many seasons of last-place finishes to gripe about this year and this GM and where we are today.
dasit
agree, the whole “if we don’t win a championship the season is a failure” narrative undermines the whole point of following a team. there are red sox seasons like 2012 that are objectively awful, there are seasons like 2007, 2013, and 2018 that end happily, and then there are seasons like 2003 and 2011 that end in brutal fashion (or 2004 and 2019 if you’re a yankee fan). if all we consider is the end result, we forget that along the way those seasons provided more thrilling moments than some fan bases get in a lifetime
Bruin1012
Well here’s another take. The Red Sox did gamble on lose on Fabian but with a kicker. Next years draft is almost universally seen as a much deeper draft and while I’m sure that the Red Sox wanted to sign Fabian, I have to admit was very happy about the pick. They knew they were gambling with house money. If Fabian signs them great if not then so be it get the same pick in next years much deeper draft.
The trade deadline was much more disappointing. Was really hopeful that Boston was going to address 1st Base and pitching. Im not sold on Schwarber as an answer at first I hope I’m wrong. The one thing I do have to say the cost that was put on the buyers seemed extremely high. It was definitely a sellers market. Im sure that Duran was the guy everyone wanted and for sure would have to be in a Berrios trade or a Scherzer trade. Was hoping to get Rizzo or Kimbrel as well but the prices, especially for Kimbrel, were sky high. Im guessing that Bloom just didn’t want to pay the freight especially when he was building for 2022 as the competitive year. I think in Blooms mind this has just been a bonus. The Red Sox are adding potentially the second best pitcher in Sale who has looked pretty solid in his rehab outings so there is some hope that other teams can’t match. Let’s see what happens but I have to admit wasn’t super impressed with the deadline by Bloom but admittedly also don’t know the prospects that other teams were asking for from Boston.
JoeBrady
I agree. I like the pick. I think he has some talent, and he starts off as a very good fielder in CF, with some power. But that said, we will get roughly the same pick next year.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I’m more worried about making the postseason this year than I am about a draft pick. Sox have been struggling. Our starting pitchers are terrible and Sale can’t fix everything. Relying on Pivetta and Perez is asking too much… Bloom needed to make an upgrade somewhere in the rotation.
GaryWarriorsRedSox
Perhaps Sale and Tanner Houck can be answers? Their lineup is fine unless JD Martinez continues to struggle. Kyle schwarber can come in and provide a spark.
As far as additional reinforcements, the price of some of those guys was too high to pay for a team that is playing over their head and not probable to be knocking on the door of a championship this year. Bloom played it right.
BeforeMcCourt
I know why bloom took a shot, but if you know you’re not gonna be able to get the guy anything close to what he wants, and I’m sure he communicated his expectations, and he could get it later on.. kinda sucks to toy with a prospect. Bloom straight up admitted they picked him knowing they could have a do over next year.