Acquiring one of the game’s better power hitters in Kyle Schwarber doesn’t exactly make for a quiet deadline season, though compared to what other AL contenders did in July, the Red Sox were comparatively modest in picking up Schwarber and relievers Hansel Robles and Austin Davis. Chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom told MLB.com’s Ian Browne and other reporters that the Sox looked into several trade possibilities, but teams put a very high price tag on pitchers in particular, leaving Bloom’s front office unwilling to sacrifice too much of the future for a short-term gain.
“There were a lot of things that were put to us where we just felt we’re not doing our jobs and ultimately we’re going to let our fans down, whether it be tomorrow or whether it be next year or the year after or all of the above if we did some of things we could’ve done to make more of a splash,” Bloom said. The $210MM luxury tax threshold “was never a hard line” that prevented the Sox from making a trade, and Bloom said the team indeed considered some moves that would put them in excess of the $210MM figure. However, “we just didn’t feel like it was worth the cost in talent, let alone the additional effects of going over the line.”
Bloom also denied a report that ownership put pressure on the front office to land Max Scherzer. The Sox were known to have interest in the former Nationals ace, and Scherzer was reportedly open to the idea of waiving his no-trade protection to come to Boston, before he eventually agreed to be dealt to the Dodgers.
More from Fenway Park…
- Chris Sale threw 81 pitches over five innings in a Triple-A rehab start yesterday, the longest stint to date of his four minor league rehab outings. Working a more standard game appeared to Sale, who told The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier and other reporters that “I’m starting to get into more of a normal routine and more of fighting the same fight everyone else is fighting, instead of having an injured elbow, fighting back, rehabbing. I don’t feel that way. That’s big.” Sale mostly threw his fastball in the 91-93mph range but occasionally reared back to touch the 96mph mark, while striking out seven and allowing one run (on five hits and a walk) over his five innings. The left-hander is scheduled for one more Triple-A rehab start this week, and he could then potentially make his long-awaited return to the Red Sox rotation.
- Second-round pick Jud Fabian won’t be signing with the Red Sox, as a tweet from his personal account more or less (with an assist from Eminem) officially stated he will return to the University of Florida for his senior year. A $1,856,700 slot price is attached to the 40th overall selection, and rumors have circulated that the two sides were a good distance apart in negotiations — The Athletic’s Peter Gammons reported that Fabian could have landed $3MM from two teams that picked later than the Sox in the second round. Due to remaining pool space, MLB Pipeline’s Jim Callis writes that the Sox couldn’t give Fabian more than a $2,100,680 bonus without having to surrender a future first-round pick as punishment for exceeding their pool spending by more than five percent. The Red Sox will receive the 41st overall selection in next year’s draft as compensation for not signing Fabian.
Chris Sale threw 81 innings in 5 innings aye? Thats pretty spectacular.
Normally i hate commenting on the writing errors but this one is too funny
And normally I hate these too, but I just couldn’t pass it up. Lol.
Pete you didn’t go to Taft did you?
Sale threw 81 Innings in a rehab , subsequently he needs another TJS.
They tried to make me go to rehab… I said ‘no, no, no!’
I see what you did there!
Poor Amy, ten years gone this week. Camden Town’s finest.
It’s all that damn Pete Doherty’s fault.
Can’t stand me now.
As a senior he will not have the same leverage so $1.8m sounds better than $50k (he may get more if he has a great senior year). Plus he gets to start his pro career now. On the surface this does not sound like a smart plan for him.
Fire that AAA manager ASAP
81 innings is damn near half a year of usage.
Maybe if his parents named him Judd instead of Jud he wouldn’t be so pretentious and take the deal. Reminds me of the kid Robbert I knew. He got beat up in the cafeteria for a dumb spelling of his name.
Red Sox are idiots for wasting a pick. Lost development time and they knew what he wanted to sign. Payback will be sweet when they get just a wildcard slot and are out after one game.
Everyone “wants” but few get.
fffbbb3 mins ago
Red Sox are idiots for wasting a pick.
=====================================
It’s not a waste of a pick. They get the same pick next year. This was mentioned in the article.
Not to be a stickler but they get the very next pick, not the same pick. The Mets will get the 11th overall pick for drafting Rocker #10 and the Sox will get the 5th pick of the second round after selecting Fabian #4 overall in Round 2. Everyone goes down a notch.
I knew that, but too lazy to type that much.
Yes, the Sox took a gamble on a first round talent at pick 40 and will get a do-over next year. I like the thinking out of the box. Also, I think the ~$250K that could have gone to Fabian can go to other draft picks such as Nathan Hickey.
JB – You must count the time value of the delay. At best it’s one year lost. At worst the pick next year is a bust and this year’s pick becomes an all-star.
Clearly, Bloom needs to learn his job. That’s what happens when you hire an apprentice!!
KD, there are no crystal balls. Bottom line is Bloom has the team in better position than most thought possible, he reset the tax situation for future flexibility and re-stocked the farm far faster than we all thought possible. Plus, he inked KH and HR. While not all of his moves have worked, how can any knowledgeable Sox fan complain?
“how can any knowledgeable Sox fan complain?”
There are fans like that for every team. They make up their mind that they hate the GM or manager, and no matter how successful that GM or manager is, they will continue to hate the GM or manager.
Dewey – As an ex-player I believe the players have the team in a better position than most thought possible. There was no reason to reset the tax quickly unless the plan is to going over the next year. Ownership POCKETED tons of money that would have kept the team competitive. For 20 years they re-invested in the future then it suddenly stopped and left the fans watching the most atrocious team in half a century.
The farm system IS NOT re-stocked. The contributing players graduating are all from before Bloom showed up. Signing KH rather than Semien was not a stellar move. Renfroe has worked out like Pearce in 2018. He’s had a spot of luck like DD did in 2018.
The better question is how can any knowledgeable fan NOT COMPLAIN? He’s been horse crap from day one. I’ve detailed it above.
The system is restocked. Maybe not to where YOU want it but given the inability today to sign international players like in the past and in place slot money, the deals he’s made have been overall good to great. As for last year, 99% of Sox fans knew in 2018 that the bill was coming due in 20. DD tried to repeat instead of breaking it down in 19 and injuries ruined any chance.
Thanks Joe. I needed the reminder that some will always look for the negative or once their mind is made up, the blinders appear.
There was a guy on another board who, after Tito won his 2nd WSC, said that Tito could win the next 10 in a row and he wouldn’t admit he was a good manager. They do the same with players. They will start off disliking someone as a rookie, maybe the guy struck out with the game on the line, and that’s it. I knew a couple of guys who wanted Bogaerts DFAd, and I am trying to explain to them that he is going to get $100M contract.
If it helps, this is the same in real life.
It’s a mathematical fallacy. If the ‘at worst is a bust and he blossoms, then the ‘at best’ is just the opposite, that he busts and next year’s pick becomes an all-star. The choices are mirror images.
Nice ERA and all, but only 7 Ks in 81 innings?
It would have been more impressive if he pitched 81 innings with only 5 pitches being thrown.
JB – The ERA is based on whether a guy Ks people or gets them to ground out or pop out. Pitchers don’t need to have high Ks to be effective. Your modern metrics have created an obscured view of the player.
He obviously didn’t have 81 IPs in his last outing. Everyone in here is joking about it. Your hatred of Bloom, Cora, the RS and Boston is warping your sense of humor.
JB – NO. I’m laughing because I got the joke but took the time out to bust on you a bit for fun. I apologize.
Hey, I think there might be a typo in the first sentence about Chris Sale lol
How did Eminem help?
Click on the Tweet above in the article. He used an Eminem song to say he’s back.
The miss wasn’t on Scherzer but Berrios. Berrios gives you strong innings and he had 1 year of arbitration left if you couldn’t get a long term deal. A Sale/Berrios 1-2 would have given them a chance down the stretch and into the playoffs.
Fabian was a good gamble. If he signs you get good value at the 2nd pick. If he doesn’t you get the pick back next year with a slight downgrade. Considering how the draft is compared to the other sports it really was a good, calculated risk.
For what the Blue Jays gave up I’m assuming the asking price for Berrios would’ve been Casas, Duran, and probably one more prospect Bloom made a smart move not trading for him
I thought Berrios was hugely expensive. I think BA rated Martin #15, and Richardson #52, IIRC. I’ll wait this one out.
i dunno how it’s a great idea to get excited about a guy who fails to hit .250 in his final college season
Good news is Red Sox are hitting the skids, and finally going to drop off the cliff we’ve all been waiting for
Bad news is the rays are inexplicable going to play better
Let’s go Jays
There is no cliff for the Red Sox to fall off of and the Jays are 8 games below, focus on getting ahead of the Yankees before you talk
…. Let’s go Sox
I do agree though… as good as we’ve been, I can’t see us going far with this pitching.
At a minimum, we need a vintage Sale, and a good ERod & Eovaldi.
So you need 2018 to nearly completely repeat on the pitching side, at a minimum?
You guys choose great pics!
Jud Fabian, you’re an idiot. How can you look your father in the eye and say $2 million isn’t good enough. You’ve never ever played pro ball yet? Hope you get hurt, and have to settle on being a HS baseball coach
Salty much?
That’s a crappy take. Really crappy.
So, he didn’t sign and most people probably think that was kind of dumb of him. Maybe we’re right. Maybe his bet on himself pays off.
Either way, wishing an injury on somebody is neither appropriate nor acceptable. Sort yourself out.
So, basically the Red Sox picked Fabian knowing he had better offers, but hoped to force him to sign at slot and give up more than $1M?
If so, good for the kid sticking to his demands. The risk is he goes back to college and gets injured, or the loss of leverage since he’ll graduate as a college senior, who have the least leverage in the draft.
No one knows that he had better offers. I assume about 100% of all agents tell you that their client is in great demand. The fact that no one drafted him prior to us means no one thought his ask was appropriate.
Cmon man. These guys are talking to all the teams in the area they’re expected to go so teams know bonus demands. He knows what teams were offering. What’s the point in lying now? It won’t help next year
You’re so salty that Bloom screwed with this guys career and thought he could pressure him to drop his demands by 33%+, and you’re blaming the player?! Would you fold that easily?
Offers are irrelevant if the team talking doesn’t draft you.
Tidbit on Chris Sale from the WEEI website
“Sale will be making another rehab outing with the WooSox, this one coming in Scranton (“The Electric City”). But it’s how he is planning on getting there which is the true takeaway.
““You can bet your (expletive) I’m getting on that bus with the guys on Monday,”” said Sale”
How would the teams after the Red Sox have more slot money than the Red Sox? What happened here?
Perhaps they did what the Sox did last year.. pick a guy way higher than he should have been and pay him a lot less. Saves more money for later rounds?
nice to see all the griping about bloom. red sox fans are officially as entitled as me and my fellow yankee fans
There’s just one guy griping about bloom. The rest of us can see we’re a game and a half out of first place in August.
There’s been too many seasons of last-place finishes to gripe about this year and this GM and where we are today.
agree, the whole “if we don’t win a championship the season is a failure” narrative undermines the whole point of following a team. there are red sox seasons like 2012 that are objectively awful, there are seasons like 2007, 2013, and 2018 that end happily, and then there are seasons like 2003 and 2011 that end in brutal fashion (or 2004 and 2019 if you’re a yankee fan). if all we consider is the end result, we forget that along the way those seasons provided more thrilling moments than some fan bases get in a lifetime
Well here’s another take. The Red Sox did gamble on lose on Fabian but with a kicker. Next years draft is almost universally seen as a much deeper draft and while I’m sure that the Red Sox wanted to sign Fabian, I have to admit was very happy about the pick. They knew they were gambling with house money. If Fabian signs them great if not then so be it get the same pick in next years much deeper draft.
The trade deadline was much more disappointing. Was really hopeful that Boston was going to address 1st Base and pitching. Im not sold on Schwarber as an answer at first I hope I’m wrong. The one thing I do have to say the cost that was put on the buyers seemed extremely high. It was definitely a sellers market. Im sure that Duran was the guy everyone wanted and for sure would have to be in a Berrios trade or a Scherzer trade. Was hoping to get Rizzo or Kimbrel as well but the prices, especially for Kimbrel, were sky high. Im guessing that Bloom just didn’t want to pay the freight especially when he was building for 2022 as the competitive year. I think in Blooms mind this has just been a bonus. The Red Sox are adding potentially the second best pitcher in Sale who has looked pretty solid in his rehab outings so there is some hope that other teams can’t match. Let’s see what happens but I have to admit wasn’t super impressed with the deadline by Bloom but admittedly also don’t know the prospects that other teams were asking for from Boston.
I agree. I like the pick. I think he has some talent, and he starts off as a very good fielder in CF, with some power. But that said, we will get roughly the same pick next year.
I’m more worried about making the postseason this year than I am about a draft pick. Sox have been struggling. Our starting pitchers are terrible and Sale can’t fix everything. Relying on Pivetta and Perez is asking too much… Bloom needed to make an upgrade somewhere in the rotation.
Perhaps Sale and Tanner Houck can be answers? Their lineup is fine unless JD Martinez continues to struggle. Kyle schwarber can come in and provide a spark.
As far as additional reinforcements, the price of some of those guys was too high to pay for a team that is playing over their head and not probable to be knocking on the door of a championship this year. Bloom played it right.
I know why bloom took a shot, but if you know you’re not gonna be able to get the guy anything close to what he wants, and I’m sure he communicated his expectations, and he could get it later on.. kinda sucks to toy with a prospect. Bloom straight up admitted they picked him knowing they could have a do over next year.