4:11PM: Bryant’s MRI came back clean, manager Gabe Kapler told reporters (including Kerry Crowley of the Bay Area News Group). Bryant could make his return to the lineup tomorrow and Kapler said Bryant might even be available to pinch-hit in today’s game.
11:13AM: Kevin Gausman has had hip discomfort since an incident way back on April 24, per John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle. He tweaked it during a play at first base last night, but managed to stay in the game and work through it. The Giants ace should continue to take his turns in the rotation.
Kris Bryant, meanwhile, was removed from the game after experiencing tightness in his side during his first at-bat of the game. He is going to be evaluated today. For the Giants, they have the depth to be cautious with Bryant, even if it doesn’t result in a stint on the injured list. Bryant has a history of these ticky-tack injuries that aren’t severe enough to make him miss time, even if his productivity can suffer. He has a .268/.318/.549 line in 22 games with the Giants.
At this present moment, they are a little thin, however, with Evan Longoria and Donovan Solano currently out. Still, Wilmer Flores can spend some time at the hot corner while Darin Ruf looks to continue his solid season at first. Flores has put up 1.3 rWAR while moving between first, second, and third base.
DarkSide830
ugh Giants don’t just fall apart now that you are facing the Braves. that’s the last thing we need.
MetsFan22
The Braves have gotten all the lucky breaks this year. Mets would have ran away with the didviidon already if things were normal
Benjamin101677
How do the Braves gets all the breaks?? They have a totally different outfield than they did to open the season. The difference is the Braves went out and traded and got useful pieces while the Mets basically stood pat didn’t go get the help.
kodion
MF22 has always had a VERY high swing-and-miss rate
MetsFan22
Their injuries overall were never as bad
MetsFan22
That 1 player. Lindor and Degrom missed just as much
tstats
Ozuna got arrested
Deleted User
Useless comment. They still lost his production, didn’t they?
tstats
No I was supporting you, I hadn’t read your comment when I posted in response to MF22
Deleted User
Man, I’m sorry. The comment layout on the page could be so much better.
tstats
It really could. It’s ok Steve, you know I’m on your side 🙂
RunDMC
Ozuna, Acuna, d’Arnaud (for most of the year) all were either 2020 silver sluggers or runner-ups. Zero production from Soroka — very different bullpen (minus Melancon).
ATL faced LAD going through the 2020 playoffs with rookie pitchers and a franchise record amount of starters, yet they still won (until they didn’t in the NLCS). Bryse Wilson isn’t on the team, Kyle Wright is in AAA, Minter lost his luster — but no excuses and they found a way to win without fans crying about injuries and lack of pitcher depth. Sure, deGrom hurts, but you got an All-Star season from Taijuan Walker, Stroman looks like he’s playing for a 9-figure deal (good luck) and little after that. Even with them, your offense is sporadic with Alonso carrying them right now as good ole Smoke n’ Mirrors (Baez & Lindor) keep entertaining.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Ok folks, the troll booth is now open. @Metsfan22 will now accept your $.02 worth of opinions. Unfortunately it will fly right over his noggin.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
@Metsfan22 may be a dingbat, but I like him because he gets the sleepy Braves fans off the sofa with his out of this universe comments. I’m anxious to see what Rosario will contribute. Keep on truckin’ Braves.
inkstainedscribe
MF22 has a copy/paste of that sentence ready to go on most NL threads.
Dankgesang
The movie villain: MetsFan22
The real villain: everyone who responds to MetsFan22
Bounty Hunters IA
Degrom is more valuable than the entire Braves roster
JAMES JACOBSEN
Step away from the pipe!!
Kg3636
Metsfan22. Seriously just stfu. Your act is tired and old. You have zero facts to back up any of the nonsense you spout. Mets aren’t a good team. Deal with it and go back into your hole. Pathetic.
jdavidbr
He makes stupid comments just to get a rise. Ignore him and he’ll go do his homework or whatever else he does.
Rsox
I’m betting the Braves don’t consider losing Mike Soroka for the whole season, getting only half a season out of Ronald Acuna, Marcell Ozuna’s suspension, and losing Travis d’Arnaud, Ian Anderson, and Huascar Ynoa for long stretches of the season as having “gotten all the lucky breaks this season”
MetsFan22
Do you want a list of Mets players?
tstats
Do you want a list of dodgers, Phillies, giants, Indians, white Sox, Astros, Yankees, or Rays that have spent time on the IL?
MetsFan22
Oh those combined is less than the Mets lol
RunDMC
Sure, don’t just hold Lindor, Conforto, Dom Smith, Nimmo, McCann, Baez accountable. That’d be too easy that the team whose offense looked so good last year for stretches probably was unsustainable (psst…look at their BABIPs last season and you could have foreseen the fall-off, they were way too lucky). Blame injuries and don’t address the issues. Play it again, Sam.
tstats
Actually I’m ok with Nimmos production
tstats
Very false very very false. If you use your lost war stat sure you are leading leading but only by a hair over the dodgers who you know have lost Kershaw for extended time, betts, Bellinger (again it is a predictive stat), most relievers, Price, Seager, Knebel
MetsFan22
Ok so you see that we are still leading….
tstats
Yes I do, but again, I’ve told you this before: on a team wide scale WAR is about 1-1.5 off, more than the margin the Mets lead by
Noel1982
What about this the team isn’t that loaded ! Degrom is a superstar when healthy I’ll give Lindor that status as well and call Alonso a star !
After that the roster is just decent McNeil condor to, nimmo are solid players more then they are near stars !
Dom smith and jd davis are more average players then good and the rest of the lineup is meh
As for the starting staff Thor was always gonna be out and goes like walker stroman etc have a history of being bad as often as good
Add it all up and the Mets don’t have a much better roster then braves or Phillies probably not even better at all
Ducky Buckin Fent
Incorrect, @mf22.
Matter of fact, a little over a week ago the Yanks had a whopping 21 players on an IL of some type. mets topped out at…what?, 14 or 15.
Here is The Deal.
Good teams (i.e. Yanks, Braves, Dodgers, Astros, Ray’s et al) figure stuff like that out.
Teams that are not good do not.
Guess what that makes the mets?
MetsFan22
Well the the dodgers are a better team rn since a lot of Mets underperformed this year
Noel1982
I don’t know about underperforming when it comes to dom smith and jd davis ! They have a longer track record of being perfectly average players kinda like they have been this year ! Nimmo McNeill and conforto are decent players but they aren’t close to stars so them playing like decent players isn’t underperformance !
It’s a team with two superstars that have been hurt and just one other star Alonso! It’s not a loaded team by a long shot
Noel1982
Dodgers have at least 6 to 7 guys that would be the third best position player on the Mets after Lindor and Alonso and one of those who might not be bellinger Mets would trade any of McNeill nimmo conforto Davis or smith for even at his lowest value
MetsFan22
Conforto and McNeil went from top 5 at thier positions to below avg…. That’s two huge players to the lineup…. Lindor is underperforming and Davis is hitting above avg rn bc he has always been an above avg hitter…
MetsFan22
Mets do not want bellinger lol. He is done. Horrible hitter. Good luck hoping him to come back to what he was.
Noel1982
Again they would trade any of those guys i mentioned for him and hoped that he just needs a change of scenery , unlike McNeil and comfortable conforto he’s flashed star potential before !
MetsFan22
Look at McNeil stats again.. before this year.. tell me he hasn’t flashed star potential… comnon man.
stymeedone
The Detroit Tigers now have a better record than the Mets.
Noel1982
The one year McNeil showed above decent potential not star but above decent was 2019 ! Who won nl mvp that year ?
milla
Bellinger is not done. Lots of players have regressed in the way he has and come back stronger than ever in the following season. Of course, since I’m not a Dodger fan, I’m enjoying this. The Dodgers overall are loaded and can afford to let him struggle.
It seems to me though that his swing speed is outrageously fast. Just imagine him trying to hit a golf ball with that swing. He swings faster than DeChambeau!
tedtheodorelogan
Does he miss easy 5 foot putts for a 59 as well?
Benjamin101677
The Mets fans have to discuss what could have been or what will be next year lol even though they can’t admit they choked and blew a division lead and have just fallen apart.
Reality is Mets players will watch the playoffs at home this year. No matter what happens to Braves in playoffs at least they will make them
bravesfan16
You’re right. It’s not like Atlanta lost their best player, replaced an entire outfield, used 6+ catchers, continually had to rely on prospects to make high leverage starts, have continued to watch clear replays not go their way, and much more. Good teams don’t make excuses, they find a way to win not matter what the circumstances are. This year is normal. 162 games, deal with the hand your dealt.
MetsFan22
Less than the Mets
tstats
Just like the Mets have less depth because they traded for a broken switch hitting shortstop and clearly have issues with the conditioning coaches
RunDMC
Someone tell MF22 that for as good as deGrom is, Kevan Smith is bad. The fact that ATL won with Kevan Smith catching a stretch could make a sound argument that they had 2 pitchers hitting/game. Not to hammer this home, but he is Bizarro deGrom (opposite in every way to deGrom). But Braves still won. Mind. blown.
wallabeechamp
Uhhh, no. The Mets are bad. If healthy, good rotation. Bad bullpen wildly overrated pieces on offense.
They Bravos got all the unlucky breaks, and have come back to overtake a team that had no business in 1st place. I mean, the Mets can’t even hold a candle to the Phillies. I’m sure you were agonizing through that 1-13 embarrassment against the best teams in the National League. THAT is who the Mets are
Faith in the Padres
Injuries are part of the game.
Braves, Mets, Padres have dealt with them all year.
Injuries happen. Nothing you can do except weather the storm and play the next man up game.
sbpaco
Yea. The Titanic would have safely finished its journey if icebergs didn’t exist
skyrider1011
No dude, the Braves are just better and their GM struck gold at the deadline with Duvall and Soler. It isn’t luck, it’s performance overcoming adversity.
Benjamin101677
I agree here; I think the Mets thought kinda like I did that the Braves would stand pat or maybe be even sell. AA rolled the diced got some good players without giving up any major pieces.
I would suspect at least one of the 3 new outfielders comes back to Atlanta in 2022. If Atlanta re signs Freeman (stupid if they let him walk). Atlanta only has a starter or two needed and bullpen help and they are set for 2022
usafcop
Sure with Acuna and Anderson and Soroka out that’s easy to say….
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Braves had a positive pythagorean win/loss record since April while Mets were at .500. It was only a matter of time before the Braves got ahead. I still think they’re overrated but out of the division, they are the best team at the moment. Mets are kind of a joke, no offense, simply because they were overrated before day 1.
MasterShake
Inb4 metsfan22 comes in and says Braves got lucky and won last night because of the injuries suffered by Giants players are the sole reason Atlanta won.
MetsFan22
Braves are only in first bc they suffered less injuries than the Mets. Hopefully next year the Braves get all the injures.
Braves3209
You’re right. The Braves haven’t had injury issues. It’s not like they lost their best overall player and who should be their ace starting pitcher for the entire year.
MetsFan22
Yes the Braves have had injury issues. But you guys had acuna and still was in 2nd place while we had lost our whole team. You guys got. Healthier/reinforcement and we didn’t. Overall you also lost a lot less than we did. But yeah it’s not like the Phillies who have like no excuse for most of the year. Our injuries just caught up to us bc it was to much for any team to Handle. We lost our best postion playsr and our best overall player too. Lindor carrasco and lugo aren’t even pitching like they are ready so it’s like they aren’t even here also. This year way more went wrong for the Mets than you guys.
kevnames42
Lindor pitches now?
tstats
Lindor would hurt himself if he pitched. It was a bad idea to rely on Carrasco coming back strong. One reliever doesn’t break a bullpen, look at all of them failing to produce
tstats
Wait so the GM made moves to bring reinforcements? Huh novel…
brucebochyisthemarlboroman
My goodness just stop man. Every team has suffered injuries. It’s been rampant throughout the league. There isn’t a starter on the Phillies that hasn’t missed time. The braves lost the best player aside from Freeman. Stop whining and making excuses.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
MetsFan22, One toke over the line sweet Jesus
Benjamin101677
Braves been without Ozuna most of the year; lost Acuna and their silver slugger catcher most of the year. Mets make horrible decisions wasn’t it 2019 that the Mets released Travis Dnard who won the silver slugger award last year.
The Mets didn’t do anything major at the deadline and just look horrible
tiredolddude
You realize that you’ve been using this same excuse since ‘86, right?
Ducky Buckin Fent
Nah.
The Braves are in first because they have a better team & a better record. You see, mon cheri, that is the actual point of playing the season.
MetsFan22
I don’t take your answers seriously. Never have.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
“I love it when you speak french Tish, it gets my blood boiling”. A quote from Gomez Addams
Ducky Buckin Fent
Of course you don’t, as they are founded in reality.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Sorry Duck, I got between you & your new buddy, MetsFan22. Hope you two are still post pals.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Non probleme, @Curly.
I’m mostly killing time while I do some grilling (Cajun dry rub goose wings & crappie fillets) as I get ready for the Yankee game.
& yes. Plenty of ice cold ale.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Ducky, you’re killing me. I live in Alabama, are you within a 100 mile radius? I could be there in, say, 2 hours?
Ducky Buckin Fent
I’m up in Minneapolis. Also threw a Breton chive & egg vinaigrette together for some raw veggies.
& yes. I am into the ale (Summit; local suds) at this point. (Of course.)
But Ducky down.
If you’re ever up north, I’ve actually had fellas over from a now defunct Yankee blog (River Ave Blues) that were passing through.
& – generally speaking – I get on with the Braves guys on the board. 1996 aside.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Interesting, I’m originally from New York, lived in Iowa for 5 years. Came up to Minn. with a good friend of mine, & saw how serious folks from Minn. like to party. So there is a NY ATL connection.
I know fellow posters, get a room, smh
Ducky Buckin Fent
That is.
I grew up in the Bronx (Riverdale). But I’ve lived in MN for decades. Hey, winter lasts about 7 months here. So folks drink to get through that, then celebrate not-winter the same way.
As for those kind of comments, they don’t bother me. Very little does, actually.
In the end, I have more fun getting along with people than not here. (Save for a certain Dodgers poster. If I offered him an ale it’s because I spit in it.)
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Bang Bang
oops sorry, I thought I was on the Houston site.
We’re just all passing through. Peace
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Mets are injury prone because they go after aging stars in trades and FA. They’re like the hamster on a wheel, always running but never catching the food. Always 2 steps behind.
MetsFan22
So everyone on the giants had career years and they won’t even make the World Series. Lol sad. Could you imagine if everyone on the Mets had career years and no injures? They might have broken the Mariners record for most wins in a season lol.
donkeyman
Too bad Mets suck, have always sucked, and will continue to always suck.
Deleted User
“If the entire team played better we would be really good.”
That’s like making a D on the exam but saying, “I’f I would have studied really hard, I probably would have gotten an A.”
You cannot fake this level of cope.
tstats
If everyone played their career best the Mets would still choke in the NLCS
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Not unless they had Ozuna on their team……ooops, shame on me.
Benjamin101677
Imagine if everyone on the Braves didn’t get hurt and had career years; Mets would still finished behind them.
MetsFan22
lol no
tstats
Lol yes
DockEllisDee
Metsfan is fishing with dynamite and you guys are like June bugs to a zapper, you just can’t help yourselves. I’m actually starting to enjoy it though so don’t stop now
Deleted User
I’m actually interested in the anatomy of a troll. How pathetic is your existence that getting random strangers to hate you is better than the alternative?
Lloyd Emerson
Those who keep feeding trolls are trolls too.
DockEllisDee
Metsfan just wants to be your friend, Steve. To just rap about our beloved pastime with you. You know, every time you point your finger, there are three fingers pointing back at you..
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
I’ve got one finger pointing back at you, guess which one it is
tstats
The pinky 😉
MasterShake
I like err should say enjoy his rationale – I have no dog in this fight I’m an A’s fan but even I know the Mets were playing over their heads until late July and the Braves are the top team in that division. They don’t look overmatched against any team they play even in their 2 losses to the Yankees one correct call and that series very likely goes 1-1. It does seem like a fair amount of bad calls have gone against them. It’s baseball everything averages out at some point. I’d like to say the Giants are an outlier but maybe it’s time to acknowledge that they are who they are this season.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Good teams win even with injuries.
tedtheodorelogan
The Mets are lame. New York is lame. You are lame.
Dogbone
There are going to be a whole bunch of free agents like KB, who will be very surprised when offers they receive will not match their high expectations. Boros or no Boros.
Benjamin101677
I think the off season will be slow till the new agreement is figured out.
Barkerboy
Bryant always seems to be hurt. A long term high $ investment in him is too risky.
Sabean Wannabe
My thoughts exactly. Makes me wonder what kind of offer Giants will make in the offseason. I’m concerned about carrying him for 6-7 years at $30M+ per only to see him get 450 ABs a year.. I’d like the Giants to keep Bryant but not at that cost. I’d rather they put that $$ toward the rotation..
tedtheodorelogan
They can afford to spend on the rotation in addition to making a market rate offer to Bryant. Cueto is off the books next year, so that’s 20ish million right there to spend, not to mention the entire rest of the rotation besides Webb are free agents too.
Cub21
Oh yeah, when Bryant gets an ache or pain he will sometimes finish the game or get pulled like last night and it will linger and his production will suffer. Very brittle and very soft for a guy 6’5 and elite athlete.
Kg3636
Only thing lower than Metsfan22’s IQ is the Mets chance to make the playoffs.
MetsFan22
My IQ is 140+
Just_a_thought
You weren’t supposed to carry the 1 in that equation.
Ducky Buckin Fent
BS.
Judging by your spelling, grammar, sentence structure, poor reasoning, & (lack of) critical thinking you definitely have a sub 100 IQ.
Bet.
hogansgoat
I would have never known
AshamedMethGoat
Mets were overhyped/overrated in the first place. Their early season success was a mirage due to an easy schedule and some stats that have since normalized.
The Braves were always going to win this division, injuries or not, because they’re simply the better, deeper team and a better-run organization, so really, things are playing out as they were expected back in April.
Everything else is just Mets fan excuses.
lethridge
I’m a Braves fan. But as long as Smith is the closer the Phillies and the Mets have a chance
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
@lethridge, I thought I was the only one worried about that. His last dozen appearances have been mediocre at best. Rodriquez?
FredMcGriff for the HOF
I agree Curly. I have no idea why Snitker doesn’t make Rodriguez the closer. It seems almost every other appearance Smith is giving up a home run.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
No, they really don’t. That’s how bad the division is. I actually like the Marlins as the team but they have not done well at all. I think they will be the team to beat moving forward.
Jean Matrac
Maybe the Braves don’t win it, but the team that would beat them, in that scenario, would be the Phillies, not the Mets.
dasit
because of the stupid astros i can’t look at an over-performing team like the giants without wondering if they are cheating. i thought about it with the 2019 twins and i thought about it earlier this year with the giants. the twins were such a complete outlier that i still wonder about it but the giants are for real
tstats
Check the park factors on BBREF and it looks suspicious
bravesnation nc
Blows my mind how someone can wish injury or another person/team. I don’t care what jersey you wear don’t wish harm to the guy. I hate that deGrom, Trout, Verlander, Hoskins, Acuna and on are hurt. It’s bad for the game.
bravesnation nc
Mets are getting buried because they flat out don’t produce enough offense. They fire their hitting coach two weeks into the season? Lindor looks out of whack, O’Neil looks injured, Conforto the same looks injured. They trade for Baez who is prone to K A TON. Wasting good prime years of DeGrom.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
You’d almost think the Mets & LAA are sharing strategies. Wasting good prime years of Trout/DeGrom. A damn shame
usafcop
@bravesnation nc
McNeil not O’Neil who is the Cardinals LF.
But I know who you meant.
For what it’s worth, I think if the Braves had Soroka and Anderson and Acuna healthy all season and so much pressure wasn’t on Fried early on they would be in a better position right now.
I am a Braves fan though no matter what and they have a young nucleus so they will be fine the next few seasons.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
They don’t put money in the right places.
Rsox
Here is what we know as of right now: the Braves would be playing the Giants in the NLDS and the Mets would be watching it on tv while Sandy Alderson looks for a new Manager. Because unless the Mets run the table all the way to a championship there is no way Rojas is back next season
GuyMcFly1215
Not to be “that guy”, but the Braves would be playing the Brewers in the NLDS. Giants would be playing the winner of the WC game. Since they have the best record in the NL.
Yadi Dadi
It’s pretty funny how much joy I get watching the Mets fail when I used to be completely neutral on them. That’s some quality annoying uninformed troll work, MF22
Jean Matrac
Funny how the article was about the Giants, and yet the vast majority of comments are about the Mets and Braves.
Cashford64
At least that “The Giants LOL” guy is gone.
gravel
Being 16 games back will do that.
The Giants have a tough Sept stretch against Mil, LAD, SD, Atl, and Col at Coors twice. There is opportunity for him to return.