The Angels have recalled outfield prospect Jo Adell and right-hander Chris Rodriguez from Triple-A Salt Lake, per a club announcement. Rodriguez, who was in the team’s bullpen earlier this season, will make his first MLB start tonight against the Rangers.
This will be the second call to the Majors for Adell, 22, who struggle mightily in his first go-around last summer. At the time, Adell had just 27 Triple-A games under his belt when making the jump to the big leagues. He’d have garnered more experience there if possible, but the cancellation of the 2020 minor league season deprived him of that opportunity.
So far in 2021, Adell has certainly looked like a player who’s benefited from the extra developmental opportunity in Salt Lake. After hitting just .161/.212/.266 in 132 Major League plate appearances last summer, Adell has returned to Salt Lake and posted a hearty .289/.342/.592 slash with 23 home runs in 339 plate appearances. By measure of wRC+, that’s “only” about 19 percent better than league-average in a supercharged Triple-A offensive environment, but Adell’s recent work has certainly been improving. Since the calendar flipped to July, Adell has absolutely mashed to the tune of a .339/.387/.615 line. He’s dropped his long-problematic strikeout rate to 24.4 percent in that time.
Adell entered the 2020 season as a consensus Top 10 prospect in all of baseball and still ranked No. 13 on Baseball America’s preseason list heading into the current campaign. He fell a bit shy of a full year of service time in 2020, so the timing of his 2021 promotion has no real impact on his path to free agency. Adell accrued 153 days of service in 2020, leaving him 19 days shy of a full year. He’d have finished the current season as a one-plus player whether he was called up on Opening Day or called up on Sept. 1. The later nature of his promotion does remove the possibility of him qualifying as a Super Two player — barring future demotions that further alter his service time — but he’d have been controllable through the 2026 season in virtually any scenario that saw him called to the Majors in 2021.
As for Rodriguez, the 23-year-old righty is a well-regarded farmhand himself. He hasn’t drawn Adell’s level of national fanfare, but he impressed with 19 2/3 frames of 3.66 ERA relief as a 22-year-old earlier this season and will now transition into the rotation — a role the Angels hope he can hold down over the long term.
A back injury that ultimately required surgery has limited Rodriguez’s innings count since he was selected in the fourth round of the 2016 draft. Accordingly, he’s pitched just 117 2/3 innings in total since that selection — including this year’s work both in the minors and in the big leagues. He’ll add a potential power arm to the team’s rotation mix, as he averaged just shy of 97 mph on his heater as a reliever earlier in the year. Given that lack of total innings, it’s not a surprise that the Angels started Rodriguez in the bullpen this year to limit his workload and build him up for future seasons.
Between Rodriguez and the recently promoted Reid Detmers, the Halos are hoping that some of their farm system’s most-promising arms can both help them claw back into the 2021 Wild Card hunt and also gain some vital experience for future seasons. Neither pitcher is guaranteed a spot in the 2022 rotation, but it stands to reason that the final two months could serve as an audition — as is the case with Adell in the corner outfield.
Deleted User
Clearly a move to build Adell’s trade value in the second half so they can make a move for *insert star*.
angelsfan1391
*insert not a pitcher* because Moreno only values offense
13Morgs13
Get ready for a nice breeze thru Anaheim stadium
DarkSide830
who’s Jo?
sufferforsnakes
That’s the guy with a gun in his hand.
Deleted User
I thought it was Janie?
sufferforsnakes
Think Jimi Hendrix.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
You sure it wasn’t Jo Jo Gunne?
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Get Farmer from Cin. The farmer and Adell
sufferforsnakes
Dang, a Jo Jo Gunne mention. Well done. One of my favorite bands growing up.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Yeah, some pretty fair references in the thread!
tstats
He could get IN adell … 😉
GeoKaplan
Worth noting Jo Jo Gunne was born from two members of the band Spirit (Jay Ferguson and Mark Andes), who previously played in Spirit with Randy California Angels.
sufferforsnakes
I guess that’s just nature’s way of creating one band from another.
sonorawind
…….who got his last name from Jimi Hendrix, because Jimi’s band before The Jimi Hendrix Experience had TWO guys named Randy in the band so Jimi started calling him Randy California to differentiate the two because…………….he was from California!
Anyway, Spirit did WAY better music than Jo Jo Gunne ever did, IMO. Especially liked their first album. Still got it in vinyl. The hit was Fresh Garbage, but I thought the song Mechanical World was tremendous.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Spirit was the first band to run songs into each other on their albums versus just stopping when a song was done. Also, Randy California died trying to save his young son from drowning. He played with Hendrix when he was like 15 years old. Hendrix was impressed. I know I’m off the subject, I apologize, I’m a huge Randy California fan-RIP
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
HubcapDiamondStarHalo, You make T-Rex proud
M’s is for maybe
97 K’s in 308 AB’s is tough to stomach, but clearly does damage to the ball when he does make contact.
Halo11Fan
Yes, just like Bo Jackson.
DarkSide830
thems some Javy Baez numbers
M’s is for maybe
Yeah, but his are in AAA in a hitters league. We shall see…..
ldubdj
So I guess this means the season is over and the Angels will once again be watching the playoffs from their luxurious Orange County mansions. Let’s see what the kids can do now to get ready for ‘22 #anotherlosingseason #waittilnextyear #troutsearlyoffseason
Mystery Team
The Angel’s season is over every year right around the start of the season. They’ll never win another championship with the current people in charge. They just have no idea what they’re doing plus Mike Trout has become an IL champ milking that calf strain for all it’s worth. You know a guy’s been on the IL longer than his team feels he should be when reports start to surface that it’s a “pain management” thing. Come on Mikey get off your a$$ and get in the game.
harrystyles
shut your mouth
GeoKaplan
TL;DR of Mystery Team’s post above:
Hey, everybody! Look at me! I need attention!
bucincharlotte
Trout is always hurt and extremely over paid!
bobtillman
I thought they had traded Adell for Sean Poppen.
flmetfan
Finally, we can ask?: Can ya hit⚾️?
nyy17 2
Adell is going to be rolling in the deep.
tstats
Hello?? This needs more upvotes
Rsox
Rumor has it…
redsoxu571
Hello from the AAA side!
ldubdj
I see the worst place Orioles just cut bait with 3 players today! THREE players… what are the odds, the Angels make a roster move to get one of these guys?
kellin
None, seeing as the two relief pitchers that were released are worse than what the Angels current relief staff is doing…
ldubdj
But that’s the Angels way… pick up some others teams garbage
angelsfan1391
That’s never stopped us before
bravesfan0618
No more trades. The deadline has passed. Players can only be signed too minor league deals and can’t be promoted. At 4:00 ET July 30th, what you had on your 40 man roster is what you got for rest of the year. No more wavier wire, it was done away with.
MrAngelFan
19 second rule.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Unless you drop it on the floor-3 second rule
LordD99
He’s improved, but as noted in the article, that stat line isn’t that great for the league. Hopefully his more recent hot streak is more indicative he’s turned the corner.
Tatsumaki
Mlbtr don’t let halo11fan hear this. He thinks adell is next ernie banks. Angels are hoping to build value so they can trade him for an ace. Not hard to see unless your halo11fan
HalosHeavenJJ
I’ve said for years one of Adell or Marsh will need to be traded for pitching. Written a few articles about Adell to Detroit for Manning. Looking at the compositions of each pipeline in 19 and 20 it made sense.
The fact Perry was talking to Miami about Marsh for Meyer means that we have a GM who finally realizes this.
Halo11Fan
For Years? Marsh is only recently a top 100 prospect and Adell just turned 22,
Halo11Fan
Tatsumaki. I think a left fielder is Ernie Banks? Man you are stupid.
The person I’ve compared him to is Bo Jackson. I think he’ll be better than Jackson, but that’s who I’ve compared him to.
Tatsumaki
Won’t even be bo jackson because that would imply he could hit the ball. Striking out close to 30 percent in minors. Yikes
Halo11Fan
Fine. You don’t think he’ll be as good as Jackson. So why distort my position? If my position was truly absurd, wouldn’t that be enough?
Rsox
All this Bo Jackson talk has given me flashbacks to 1994 when Bo played for the Angels
HalosHeavenJJ
Interesting time to call up Adell. Yes he’s gotten some AAA seasoning but a second consecutive year of struggles will only harm his value, possibly his career.
Then again, 2021 is done so we need to see who will be part of the next team and hopefully window. Let’s see what the kids have.
So far Sandoval and Barria are definitely playing themselves onto the 22 team. Marsh is doing the typical rookie struggle thing, and there are spots open.
rpoabr
These are desperation moves to see if they can stay in the playoff hunt. Hoping they can catch lightning in a bottle for a few weeks until the big boys get healthy. If not, no harm in getting them a bit more big league experience.
At least, I hope…this could mean that Trout is going to miss a much longer time too.
sonorawind
Get real, man. The Angels are OUT OF CONTENTION.
They are more probable to be passed in the WC race by the Tigers than gain on any of the teams ahead of them.
MrAngelFan
With the upgrades the teams in front of them made, the Angels realistically dont have a shot at the playoffs. Starling Marte is great addition to the Oakland team, perfect fit for that team.
Adell was lost at both the plate and in the field at his initial call up. He didn’t have a lot of games at the minor leagues. I would imagine he had way too much to think about and he struggled. Ohtani was like WTF, dude, cant even pitch. He may just needed some experience at the minor league level.
Adell is one of the most powerful bats in the minor leagues. He has the the 2nd most HR and most RBIs, to go along with ..289 AVG and 900+ OPS. On paper, he seems better equipped to be called up this go around.
Dexter Fowler was supposed to be our RF this year but he was injured early in the season. The Angels have tried to fill this hole with catchers, SS and whatnot. The void would best be filled by Marsh or Adell. It would all the Angels to spend more on positions of need. I think the Angels are doing the right thing by getting both experience at the next level. This lineup is fine when healthy. We do not need a ton of production from the position. There should not be a ton of pressure, Marsh or Adell would hit 7 or 8 in a healthy lineup.
Oddvark
Has Adell’s defense improved since last year? IIRC, he looked surprisingly lost in the outfield the last time he was called up.
HalosHeavenJJ
Per the limited reports I’ve seen, he looks better in the corners than he did last year. That’s a pretty low bar, though.
Halo11Fan
He looked much better in Spring training. Not adequate, but he showed improvement.
MrAngelFan
The questioned should be is Adell better than the SS and catcher that have been playing RF for the Angels this year? Gosh, I hope so.
D.rey
Adell’s K% BB% and HR% all very similar to our all-star 1B that gets so much love. Offense will come for him. What’s more encouraging is his defense has reportedly greatly improved. Nobody expects him to out hit trout, ohtani, rendon (when healthy). He just needs league average D and keep hitting bombs/stealing bases as a mid lineup guy and it’ll start connecting more and more for him, I believe.
Deleted User
I actually looked up his numbers and you are spot on. Even his FB%, GB% and LD% were in line with Walsh’s. In fact the only difference in their numbers is Walsh is a bit more pull happy.
D.rey
Haha I saw the same but didn’t want to put too much info in 1 comment. Kinda freaky how similar they are!
1984wasntamanual
One of them is facing MLB pitching, the other is facing AAA pitching and playing in the PCL.
D.rey
Totally agree. PCL is a hitters league as well. I was more focused on him having identical numbers to Walsh but gets treated like he’s trash even with his current numbers.
In AAA west he’s Top 2 in Hits, Runs, HR, RBI, Triples. That’s not nothing
JoeBrady
I’m not seeing the comparison. When Walsh was in AAA, he had an OPS of 1.109 and a K/W of 115/59. Adell has a .934 in AAA with a 99/22 K/W. That’s not at all similar.
MrAngelFan
@JoeBrady They are not similar, but comparing the OPS a 25yo with years of minor league to a 22yo that is still figuring it out is like comparing apples and oranges. Obviously, Walsh didnt put up those numbers at 22yo either. It wouldn’t be fair to compare them directly at they age either , since Adell is in the PCL where offensive numbers jump. Comparing the flyball, groundball, and linedrive rates is a little better for assessing at this point as noted above.
solaris602
I still believe Adell has a bright future, but I would have left him at AAA for the rest of the year just to be on the safe side. The guy is only 22, and if he fails again less than a year after his epically horrible debut, he may not recover mentally.
Halo11Fan
If he is not going to recover mentally, he’ll never make it.
MrAngelFan
If he has a mental block now, chances are he will have a mental block in 6 months Adell was 21 when he came up. He is not the first one to struggle at this age. He had better success in the minors this go round, so yes, it is time to be called up again.
DodgerOK
Angels need to go all in next year or trade Trout. The guy deserves a chance to play for a championship.
kellin
Hah. Dumb comment. Dude clearly wants to play in Anaheim.. he’s also got a full no trade clause..
DodgerOK
Hah. Dumb comment. Dude clearly doesn’t want to play for a loser his whole career.
sonorawind
No-trade clauses are put in by agents to make sure you get monetary compensation IF you choose to be traded. Or to make sure you arent traded to BALT or CLEV or someplace else unpleasant. It’s not ironclad.
Trout’s probably not desperate YET to play for a playoff team. But if the Angels fail to make it in ’22 and ’23, he many get that way by ’24 or ’25.
Dorothy_Mantooth
It’s time for Adell to hit or get off the pot!
Halo11Fan
Right, because teams should give up on prospects when they are 22.
The Angels need to bury Marsh, he has no chance. He’s almost 24.
kellin
I’m not sure why they called up Adell if they didn’t want him to start. Eaton just killed a rally..
Halo11Fan
I agree with you Kellin.
jdeucem2
Late arrival possibly?
Dorothy_Mantooth
Meanwhile, Heaney has given up 4 solo HRs in his first 3 innings pitched for the Yankees tonight. Would love to see Baltimore upset them.
kellin
So glad to see Heaney gone.
JoeBrady
Maybe they knew Cole had Covid, otherwise, this felt like a strange fit.
Halo11Fan
Nice to see the young players come up. I’m amazed how many people give Marsh a pass but are down on Adell.
Let the kids play. Let’s see what we have.
californiaangels
adell didnt even look like he had played baseball before..offense and defense.
marsh can flat out get them in center and then has looked really comfortable at bat. not worried with him, numbers dont reflect how he looks.
Halo11Fan
I’m not worried about either of them. I think Adell will be better, but I respect the other position as well.
I don’t respect the opinion of anyone who has given up on either.
hd-electraglide
I agree. Being a high prospect probably puts an undue amount of pressure on Adell. Put him in his natural position, let him play almost every day, to build his self confidence. Over the years, there have been a lot of rookies, that didn’t perform “ up to expectations”. In fact I remember a very famous rookie, that was actually quitting, and his dad came to his hotel room and said he would help him pack his bags and take him back home to work in the mines. Fortunately for us fans, that rookie continued to play, and became a super star and HOFer. Also I think it’s unfair to compare a rookie’s potential to a by player, much less a superstar.
Halo11Fan
Mickey Mantle.
hd-electraglide
You win a cookie!
sciosciamediapro
I’ve thought that about marsh and adell for a while now, especially after adells poor showing last year. A lot of people seem to be using that as something that gives them free reign to speak about him like he’s worthless and nothing but a joke. Can anyone give me an ulterior motive for all the hate on jo adell besides he’s black? As an angel fan I dont think it has to be one or the other, I hope they both become all stars.
1984wasntamanual
Ah yes, of course it’s about race. When people like you try to inject racism into everything, makes ya wonder if you’re just projecting your own racist thinking.
The reason people hate on Adell is because he came up and had one of the worst performances in recent history for a prospect of any note. He managed to put up -1.3 fWAR in only 132 PAs and struck out 40+% of the time. That’d be -5.9 / 600 pas.
sciosciamediapro
You seem rather angry sir, I apologize if my post offended you in some way. please understand it was not my intention to “inject racism” into anything, quite the contrary really. I was hoping someone could tell me why when both marsh and adell have been very comparable at every stop and despite most professional scouts and such putting adell in a class above marsh do I read so many “trade adell, he’s garbage” posts and fan articles? I want to find another reason why believe me. Adell got called up for a joke of a 60 game season and flopped. And like you said people HATE him now! Seems like an awfully weak reason to hate someone. I mean I could rattle off 25 top 50 prospects since 2000 who struggled mightily in there first taste where is the hate for those guys?
fox471 Dave
Your post offended probably every baseball fan everywhere. You think this is the 1950s? I have one jersey in my drawer and it is Jackie Robinson.
sciosciamediapro
You really should go the extra mile and hang it up……I bet if it was a don drysdale jersey you would’ve hung it up wouldnt you of????
sciosciamediapro
This was me trying to make people laugh and not me being serious FYI. Lol
Halo11Fan
You can’t talk about race in America without you being considered a racist. I too wonder why a 24 year is loved and a 22 year old is disliked. The 22 year old is a higher rated prospect, drafted higher, and is younger. And the 22 year old has better minor league numbers.
It doesn’t make sense to me.
sciosciamediapro
I think we’re supposed to act like we don’t notice people are different colors…..But I was really hoping someone was gonna point out something that I hadn’t seen about adell being an arrogant jerk or something Bonds like then I could at least understand.
Halo11Fan
When Adell was drafted, I liked him immediately. Humble, well spoken, mature young man. I called my wife over to the TV, and had her listen to the interview. She was equally impressed.
His dad was a profession athlete. He talked about his family, his sister.
Everyone says he’s coachable and quick to learn.
His attitude probably has more to do with me believing he’ll be successful than his great talent.
I have no idea why anyone wants to trade this kid. He’s the kind of player you should love to root for. .
1984wasntamanual
Please find me 25 to 50 top prospects that struggled at near Adell lvls. I’ll be surprised if you find even a handful. His debut was REALLY bad.
Also…hate on =/= hate the player.
Halo11Fan
It’s a reasonable concern. Please find 25 prospects his age that missed half a season with severe leg injuries, and missed a AAA season because of an epidemic.
The young man had about 350 ABs above A ball and because of a cancelled minor league season and was thrust into the major leagues without due diligence.
If you don’t see that this is a unique situation, you are not looking. You are putting too much weight into unique situations. Why?
There is simply not enough data to form any type of conclusion.
Halo11Fan
Aybar was a much better player than Brandon Wood, Discarcina, David Eckstein and David Fletcher. Why did Angel fans always disrespect him?
I’m not saying it’s skin color but I think it does have something to do with relatability.
Tim Salmon was light years better than Garret Anderson, but a lot of people thought Anderson was the cats meow. How was that possible?
Don’t confuse race with relatability. Race is a part of relatability but it’s not the end all be all.
1984wasntamanual
I never claimed there’d be prospects with his exact situation, that was a direct response to the OC saying there are similar stories to Adell, but cool strawman, seems to be your go to when defending Adell…wonder why?
I put stock in the, “unique situation” because it’s the information we have. Just because you keep yelling about him being young and the pandemic (lots of other players had to deal with that last year too, Adell didn’t live in a bubble), doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. If he comes up and performs significantly better I’ll adjust my impression and expectations of him accordingly, until then, I’m going to base it on what has actually happened and not what Halo11fan wants to happen.
Halo11Fan
What strawman? It’s a unique situation, therefore there isn’t past data that can be used. How is that a strawman?
Since this is unique, we have no useful information.
Who had to deal with what Adell had to deal with? If there are lots, name one.I gave the criteria.
sciosciamediapro
Tim salmon was not light years better than GA. love both players equally, and I might give a slight edge to king Fish but I had season tickets in left field corner in 03 and GA was as smooth as they come. Looking back he reminds of a prius just silent gliding to everything and always reliable. And I would argue relatability completely hinges on race. I mean its the first thing your gonna notice and therefore factor largely in deciding whether to peel a layer and see what actual relating could happen
Halo11Fan
I became a UCLA basketball fan because of Henry Bibby and a USC football fan because of Ricky Bell
.I relate to Adell because of that interview. I’m openly rooting for the guy. I don’t think it’s clouding my judgement, but it might be,
Jim Fregosi is my all time favorite player.
I don’t know anything about Brandon Marsh but I’m thrilled Marsh and Adell are close friends. I hope to see them both in the outfield for years to come.
SwingtheFNbat
@Smediapro, I see you’re one of those who just likes to “stir the pot”. Do as you may but, GA and TS go down as the 2 best Angels EVER, next to Trout of coarse.
It’s not about who’s better, but if u want to be Confrontational, Timmy was better in his 1st half of his career, and GA better in his 2nd half of his. End of story, there both 2 “A and “B” next to Trout.
BTW: soon to be 3 “A” and “B”, if they extend Ohtani.
sciosciamediapro
Sorry if I sounded confrontational, I may have to reread my comment but I thought I said they were both awesome and I love them both, just didn’t think the talent gap was as large as “light years”. And if nobody stirs the pot, whatever you’re cooking starts to burn and turn to $h!t. Stirring the pot a little keeps people thinking, and we can lie to everybody else, but not ourselves and the more we internally are honest with ourselves the more we grow as people and that can’t be bad can it? Hope everyone here has a great day tomorrow and GO HALOS!!!!!
carllafong
Aybar was not better than David Fletcher. .271 career hitter with 58 homeruns and a career WAR of 22.8. Fletcher is at .295 and climbing with a 10 WAR that will be 12-13 by the end of the season. He just turned 27, and is a better fielder and the leading candidate for a gold glove at second this year, and he’s able to play anywhere on the diamond and play there well– Aybar did not have that flexibility.
Halo11Fan
Yes. Tim Salmon was light year better than Anderson.
Halo11Fan
Carl. Could you imagine Fletcher as the starting shortstop next year? I can and it’s not a pretty thought.
fox471 Dave
Hey Lou did you just pull the race card out of your rear end? Really? What an absolutely pathetic thing to say.
sciosciamediapro
Wow, you seem to be full of anger. Yet still nobody has answered my original question as to a legitimate reason for all the hate for adell. Once again, i apologize if I offended you, and also for being “pathetic”. But will you answer one question for me? Is it possible that’s the reason why so many people are hating on adell?
JoeBrady
The ‘Adell is garbage’ comments are few and far between. No one cares if your best player is black. They do care if your best prospect comes up and completely bombs.
I don’t disagree that there could be some element of racism in here, but that’s the same in the NFL and NBA when white players sneak in. There will always be some black fans hating on Joe Brady because he’s white. But 98% of them will simply hate me because I can’t play.
I have never seen a real black fan hate a player because he is white.
sciosciamediapro
They may not care if you’re best player is black but they sure seem interested when he fails…..Look, I’m not suggesting the majority of adell haters are consciously hating him because he’s black, what I’m saying is it seems like because he’s black, it’s a whole lot easier for them to hate on him. I mean cmon, there are angel fans still making excuses why Brandon Wood, Casey kotchman, and Dallas McPherson failed at the big league level but Adell hasn’t even failed yet and they seem ready to send him out
1984wasntamanual
I answered your question. It seems you either don’t understand how bad he actually was or just refuse to believe that matters to people.
1984wasntamanual
Perhaps you’re subconsciously attributing it to race because you’re….racist. Or because you don’t appreciate the severity of the deficiencies he showed. Ever consider that it’s you and not everyone else?
People are interested in all top prospects failing, especially if they do so as spectacularly as Adell did. Are you new to following baseball, or do you only see what supports your preconceived ideas?
Halo11Fan
My question to you is why you are forming hard conclusions based on no precedence?
A triple A season has never been cancelled before. No time in history has a team needed to decide to bench a 21 year old versus promoting him to the major leagues.
Why don’t you see that?
1984wasntamanual
What is a hard conclusion and where do you see me doing it? You really like to make strawman arguments, don’t you?
Saying that he was awful and there are real questions about whether or not he’ll be an MLB regular =/= he has a 0% chance of ever being an MLB regular. I’m pointing out that people are hating on him because he was REALLY bad. Even being young and whatever other excuses you want to make for him, he was REALLY bad. Do you dispute that fact?
Players with the type of profile he has bust frequently. As of now, he looks to be a defensively challenged bat only corner OFer with major contact issues. The amount of pressure that profile puts on his bat to be good coupled with the issues making contact result in a pretty difficult road to being a productive ML player.
JoeBrady
I am ready to send Dalbec out, and he is white. Before that, I was more than ready to send Chavis out. Before that, it was Middlebrooks. I wanted the RS to give Marcus Wilson a shot ahead of Duran.
You’re trying to bring race into this, but I don’t see, and I don’t think many people see it that way. I think most people see a ton of strikeouts from a guy that was the #2 prospect in baseball.
Halo11Fan
1984. Marsh is awful. Since he missed all of 2020 and only has 94 AAA, I don’t weight in how bad he has been.
I’m not sure why he’s in the major leagues right now, but he is. He’s not ready.
Last year I know why they brought Adell up and it was a mistake.
1984wasntamanual
As much as Marsh has struggled (he’s also been a negative fWAR player), he’s been significantly better (less bad?) than Adell was. You’re just supporting my argument for how bad Adell’s performance was.
Halo11Fan
His performance was terrible. Horrible! Are you watching the game? Does he look like the same player?
He was a 21 year old player who hadn’t played a competitive game for 11 months.
I don’t put any weight into last year. You do. I’m not yelling at you. We just look at it differently.
sciosciamediapro
sir, simply seeing different races doesn’t make a person “…..racist”. Nor does questioning people as to why they put one person above the other when there isn’t a clear reason. I’ve also noticed the people who get the most worked up and angry the question was asked are usually the biggest offenders. Nobody had to reply to my post, or you simply could have said its just personal preference, we live in a “free” country. I find it very informative that you chose a 3rd option to get mad, make accusations and call me a racist like I’m crazy. The first step to solving a problem is reckonizing there is one.
sciosciamediapro
Are you not seeing the ton of strikeouts from the entire league?
Tim Stewart
I like Halo11 like both Adell and Marsh , but the injection of race in and then the implication any objection of the injection could mean they are racists is very irritating to me. I think one of the reasons is they hear many people give strong opinions about Adell . They don’t agree with those opinions and get tired of hearing them. Like when Trout and Harper came up there were many on both sides as to the best was.
There is also the fact that people put weight in different things. I liked Sandoval coming into this season . He was starting but not allowed to go 5 . I think they should have employed an opener so he could of had a chance at a win. anyway, others favor part of his stat-line. I think this is what some of those that don’t like Adell are looking at things they put more weight in . Personally , I think he lost his confidence and that is why his defense was so shaky. I saw a couple AZ fall games and he looked fine plus I think he was scouted as having good D. Don’t bring race into it as long as they are not saying something about Adell or others that could be thought of as racist.
carllafong
David Eckstein won two championships playing short and Fletcher is better as a fielder and as a hitter. But I see the Angels not being able to resist jumping into the mix for the big boys at short. I won’t be surprised to see them go after Seager.
JoeBrady
Halo11Fan
Nice to see the young players come up.
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Only if they can play. Nothing is more frustrating to me than to see guys promoted before they are ready. The old RS would’ve promoted Houck before his development was complete.
DGHalos714
Good to see these 2 back up with the big club. Even if we don’t make the playoffs we can get them some experience and be more prepared for next season. Hope they all do well and show everyone what they can do! Yes….let the kids play!
orange2001
The future is now.
2012orioles
This app had made him a trade meme. That’s all I can think of with him
strat272
I have zero faith in our scouting and player development departments. If this is the best we have Thaise and Wong and even Marsh are not very good. Sorry our future is dim
bravesfan0618
No more wavier wire. Guys
Halo11Fan
Wow, a starting pitcher pitches a good game and leaves with two men on base and they both score. Shocking. Our bullpen never does that.
jules
Well, as Bugs Bunny once said: “That’s all folks” See’ya next Spring, this has been an awful season to watch…
Mike_99
Angels front office if they are smart sell high and trade ohtani and get multiple pieces. Trout committed to the angels so they should return the favor.
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Who here would trade Ohtani for Vlad Jr?
urnuts
I’m let down that they never addressed the BP and I hope they resign iglesias (had hoped they packaged with Cobb) but happy the kids are getting the opportunity to prove themselves. Need to look forward.
Next year they will need a closer and 2 solid BP pieces plus a number 2 starter. Plus a middle infielder. Lastly health.
I actually feel better now about next season than a year ago for the current.
JoeBrady
I was just thinking, the promotion of Adell is a hangover from last year’s promotion of Adell. Had they not promoted him last year, he would’ve had more AAA ABs, and then could’ve promoted him next May for two more years of control, and probably have gotten a better player.
Halo11Fan
I think you are right Joe.. But Arte and the Angels are not big manipulators of service time. It’s honorable.
JoeBrady
I try to explain this to people about taxes. There are no honorable or dishonorable tax deductions. There is only legal or illegal. If the PU signed a contract saying it is legal to keep prospects down, then that is what you should do.
My very first tax lesson was the tax director I occasionally worked with. He said, so long as there is room to argue that a given deduction is legal, you always make the deduction. You do not give the IRS the benefit of the doubt. Make them tell you it is improper.
How this relates to Adell is that A) If the union says it is legal, there is no reason not to do it. Both sides take advantage of any rules they can, so everyone should do so. And B), he Adell should never have been given the service time to begin with. He had a 43/10 K/W, with -0- HRs, in the PCL. He literally could have been the worst player in the PCL.
Halo11Fan
Fair enough. But the government abuses how they spend my money and players are human beings. I think it’s honorable to not manipulate service time, I don’t think it’s honorable to take people’s money and spend it on pet projects that are designed to keep people in power and not designed to help people.
I think all legal tax deductions are honorable because they know how to spend their money better than the government.
If people have a problem with claiming deduction, then they should give the money to a charity of their choice. They will do a better job with that money than Uncle Sam
JoeBrady
I think it’s honorable to not manipulate service time,
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Honor only works in reciprocal arrangements. I’ll buy tickets because I know that other people buy me beer.
In the Cubs’ case, for example, if everyone was on the honor system, then Heyward should give back half of his salary for the past 6 years. He won’t do so because the CBA says he doesn’t have to. The same CBA that says Heyward can keep his money, is the same CBA that says the Cubs can manipulate Bryant’s service time.
However, if this was football, the Cubs would’ve cut Heyward, because that’s in their contract. No one should take unilateral actions to do anything they are not contractually obligated to do, unless they see an offsetting benefit.
SwingtheFNbat
I like the Adell call up. Any xp is good xp. I would love to see an Marsh, Trout, Adell OF next season, with Upton part time DH and 4th OF.
Halo11Fan
See I gave you a thumbs up. Im so looking forward to a line up of Fletcher, Ohtani, Trout, Rendon, Walsh, Adell, Marsh, Stassi and our shortstop.
Wow!!,
SwingtheFNbat
Wow is right, when you put pen to paper and look at it… I like! A lot!
Halo11Fan
You had to mention the “pen”.
SwingtheFNbat
Now that is funny! I give you one for that.
SwingtheFNbat
Noooo! Don’t promote Adell! “Say it ain’t so ooh”. Weezer!
Geno55
Joe Adell look good today in the batters box patient in the strike zone I think Joe Adell is here to stay
SwingtheFNbat
I like it to Geno. It’s only 1 game for Adell, but It looks promising. But at the end of the day, play Adell and Marsh as much as u can. Even with a Trout coming back in a delayed September return. Play them! Just rotate in with Upton accordingly.
MrAngelFan
Definitely looked more comfortable and confident today. He gets player of the game, but it is important to remember it is only one game and it was the Rangers. Still good to see after hearing how irreversibly bad Adell is from all the Angel haters for the entire year. Let’s hope he keeps it up. They all cant be like tonight, but lets hope at the end of the year his numbers are decent.