The Yankees’ recent pair of wins against the division-leading Red Sox helped to keep their postseason hopes alive, and the New York Post’s Joel Sherman writes that they’re looking for adding outfield help as the trade deadline approaches. Specifically, the Yankees would like to acquire someone who can handle center field.
Center field is an obvious, glaring need in the Bronx. Yankees center fielders are hitting just .183/.290/.309 on the season, and the resulting 70 wRC+ ranks 29th among the 30 MLB clubs. Aaron Hicks is out for the season after undergoing surgery to repair a torn tendon sheath in his wrist, and the subsequent cast of replacements hasn’t picked up the slack.
New York was already reported to have shown interest in Marlins center fielder Starling Marte, who is likely to be traded now that Miami’s hopes of getting him to sign an extension have been dashed. (Given the reported three years and roughly $30MM term, that should come as no surprise.) Sherman again connects the Yankees to Joey Gallo, who has some center field experience, and he adds that they’ve “wondered” about Minnesota’s Max Kepler — another strong defensive right fielder who has some experience playing center.
Marte would represent a pure rental for the Yankees — albeit an excellent one. He’s slashed at a .288/.389/.457 clip so far in 2021 while clubbing seven home runs and swiping 19 bases along the way. He’s owed about $5MM of this year’s $12.5MM salary between now and season’s end, although by the deadline, that sum would dip to about $4.37MM.
From a luxury tax standpoint, Marte is in the final year of a contract that wound up paying him $51MM over an eight-year term — an annual rate of $6.375MM. Prorating that luxury hit for the remainder of the season would mean about $2.22MM at the deadline or about $2.57MM as of today. Sherman notes that the Yankees have “about” $3MM in luxury breathing room — Roster Resource’s Jason Martinez has them around $3.5MM shy of the threshold — so Marte could technically fit into the budget without taking the Yankees over the line.
Both Gallo and Kepler are imperfect fits. Gallo is the far likelier of the two to be traded and, at $6.2MM in 2021, is a near-match with Marte in terms of luxury calculations. He’d give the Yankees a much-needed left-handed bat (unlike Marte), but he’s a better defender in right field and will likely have one of the higher asking prices among viable trade chips in the coming weeks. Gallo would add another three-true-outcome type of hitter to a Yankees lineup that leads MLB in walk rate and ranks ninth in homers and strikeout rate. Gallo is controlled via arbitration through the 2022 season.
Kepler, 28, is in the third season of a five-year, $35MM contract. He’s owed about $2.62MM through season’s end and is still owed $6.75MM in 2022 and $8.5MM in 2023. There’s a $10MM option with a $1MM buyout for the 2024 season.
Kepler missed a month with a hamstring injury earlier in the year and is batting just .207/.296/.427 in 243 plate appearances on the year. Kepler looked to be emerging from that slump with a hot few weeks after returning from the injured list in June, but he’s fallen back into an 0-for-15 skid at the plate. At his best, Kepler is an impact defender with a strong walk rate and plenty of power, as evidenced by his .252/.336/.519, 36-homer season back in 2019. The Twins probably don’t love the idea of selling low on him, and the Yankees may not want to roll the dice on a rebound for a currently struggling player anyhow.
If anything, the mention of Kepler is interesting for the fact that it illustrates the wide net being cast by the Yankees in their search. Out-of-the-box candidates figure to emerge — particularly if the team plans to remain below the luxury threshold. Owner Hal Steinbrenner recently voiced a willingness to cross that barrier, but the Yankees’ offseason moves were all made with the idea of avoiding the tax.
pustule bosey
giants can pull a skye bolt and trade tauchman to them
Joe says...
Trade Tauchman to the Yankees for Wandy Peralta. Let’s get this done.
RaysFan1798
Rolling on the floor right now
kcusgnikcufsregdod
trade has flopped for both teams unfortunately. maybe this is why trades in April don’t happen often. Season starts and getting traded really catches them off guard. Not sure how comfortable Tauchman has ever been since coming to SF.
davemlaw
All Tauchman jokes aside, there’s a fit there between the Giants and Yankees. SF has multiple OF and with many injured players returning Giants can unload an OF. Would prefer a mid level prospect not on the 40 man roster.
pustule bosey
part of that may be determined in the short term since Ramos was just moved to AAA – if the FO thinks ramos will move up quick they will have multiple expendable pieces esp. in CF- you could move duggar for instance if you think ramos will be up sometime soon – yaz isn’t going anywhere and I think they want to get more out of davis – wade has been valuable on 1st and I don’t see them moving him at this point – slater they would probably want more than a mid level guy – either a lower top tier or a couple of mid teirs
Cap & Crunch
Nice drop Dave …..seems SF DOES have about 10 avg OF under early arbs right now that they probably do need to parcel one out for the systems sake especially if they can get a nice Rp back
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
I like the Marte fit for the Yanks, RIP Dick Tidrow, used to like to see him pitch for the Yanks. They don’t need another slugger, but it seems like Joey Gallo could be a paisano from Brooklyn!
64' Yanks
Crazy Joey Gallo lives again!
ChiSox_Fan
White Sox are loaded with OF now that Luis Robert and Eloy coming back soon!
Maybe NYY has a solid 2B or bullpen help to trade.
Captain-Judge99
@ChiSox_Fan- Yanks ain’t selling
ChiSox_Fan
Then they might buy one of our OF’s. Cash or prospects.
They seem to need one. Sox have a logjam in the OF.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Sox don’t have an impact OF, though, that they’re willing to part with. Hamilton and Engel are practically the same player, though Engel’s been better lately with the bat. Goodwin and Lamb are serviceable, but are below-average defenders and neither will put a team over the top. Sheets might be available, but he’s earning the chance to stay. I don’t really see the fit.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
@Yankee-4-Life 75 Part of buying includes giving value in return. That’s kind of how trades work.
Tommy Daly
No impact players for a 2 month rental, and you don’t know which Robert or Eloy are coming back yet,
Tommy Daly
They have DJL who is the best in the league and Odor who is raking with the Yankees short porch in right, with Voit injured again DJL has to play 1st. I can see relievers, NY has 4 who could close for 90% of mlb teams in Loaisiga, Britton, Chapman and Green
tedtheodorelogan
They should just give them Tauchman for free. It would be addition by subtraction. The guy made 2 nice catches and hit a grand slam, and that is basically all he has done.
Tommy Daly
Tauchman has fallen into the Odin-sleep, hitting .182 w/4 HR, he can’t hit his way out of a paper bag since shortly after going to SF so no one’s grabbing him as a 2 month rental
The Natural
Jason Heyward would be a wonderful fit. ;c-)
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I’d love to see the Yankees saddled with that deal. lol.
iverbure
Owner Hal Steinbrenner recently voiced a willingness to cross that barrier, but the Yankees’ offseason moves were all made with the idea of avoiding the tax.
The reason for that is it’s impossible if you’re a contender to shed payroll once your over. It’s easier to stay below during the offseason and find good deals.
It’s easy to be a non intelligent fan and spend others money and say they should trade for everyone. It’s hard to be a intelligent fan and suggest alternatives other than the top rental. Max Scherzer isn’t getting traded people.
Yanks lineup looks like they need a LH bat desperately. I’m not sure Gallo fits given Yankees swing and miss too much already.
Tommy Daly
Yeah, NYY don’t need a guy who hits .215 for a handful of dingers, fans are climbing all over Stanton and he’s in the .260’s with power, They need an OBP guy who hits for avg and takes his walks and a plus defender, Gardy is 38 and can’t play 162
Gwynning's Anal Lover
Could claiming Mark Payton temporarily help?
Ham Fighter
No
Dorothy_Mantooth
Starling Marte to the Yankees makes all the sense in the world. Unless the Yankees bury themselves in the standings over the next 10 days, I’d expect Marte to wearing a Yankee cap come 7/31.
VonPurpleHayes
Marte to the Yankee is a huge gamble. Not because Marte is not good, but because the Yankees are 7.5 games out of the division. That’s not really a good time to make a big trade for a rental.
Dynasty
The trade would not be for the sake of taking the division. It would be to try and take one of the WC spots. From there, the playoffs are a total crapshoot and the hottest team over a 3 week period wins.
VonPurpleHayes
@Dynasty, I’m not saying the Yankees shouldn’t be buyers. I’m saying that if they make moves, it should be for pieces they could use for more than 1 year.
Ducky Buckin Fent
4 out of the Wild Card, @Hayes.
I think that’s more realistic at this point. We’ve won our last 3 series’ which were all against teams ahead of us in the standings. So we’ve been showing some life.
Should be getting our Covid guys back soon.
Hal does *not* want to lose his end of year playoff windfall which is in jeopardy. That changes things pretty significantly.
So I would argue that adding a CF the caliber of Marte is pretty much a *necessary* gamble if the Yanks want to stay in it. Marte & 60-80 competent starter innings should be enough to keep us on the water.
VonPurpleHayes
I think they should be looking for assets they can keep beyond this year. Still buying,but buying for beyond this season.
Ducky Buckin Fent
I think that – ideally – Cashman would agree with you. But – again – that playoff loot seems to interest Hal a great deal. So it comes down to balancing short & long term stuff.
& I can’t really think of a controllable CF that would be an upgrade & is available. Which is a problem with the specificity of the Yanks need.
Captain-Judge99
@Ducky Buckin Fent- going to throw 3 players at you. You can only trade for 1. Adam Frazier, Joey Gallo, or Anthony Rizzo. If you were Ca$hman who would you trade for? I feel any of these players would add balance to the Yankee line up batting from the left side. My preference is definitely Adam Frazier a lefty contact hitter that could lead off and play left field. I feel Luis Gil, Alexander Vizcaino and either Clint Frazier or Miguel Andujar should be enough to get him. I would even think about trading Deivi or Schmidty for him. Your opinion matters to me being the die-hard Yankee fan that you are. Take care hope all is well.
Tommy Daly
The buying happens in the off-season when prices are normal. July is for short term rentals when only a handful of teams are looking for a specific type of player to get them to October
Ducky Buckin Fent
Process of elimination:
– no to Rizzo. I’m good with Lu(uuuuuu)ke(!). I see the attraction to Rizzo. But I* would put available resources elsewhere
– no to Frazier. Again, I get why you name him. But you always have to question those high BABIP guys & 2nd is pretty well covered. LF? I give Andujar AB’s
– leaves Gallo. He’s a very good defensive outfielder & can hold center down. Another TTO guy though. So more of *that*
By default: Gallo.
But I prefer Marte.
Captain-Judge99
@Ducky Buckin Fent- hey I hear you. I love Starling Marte. There is no denying his talent. He has power, speed, great defense, a great arm. I just feel we are so right-handed as it is. Nice to see my boy Florial homer last night. Hopefully he can stay up for the long haul. What to you think of the Allen kid? I like him so far. Good defense and speed. He reminds me of Gardy when he was younger. I love the scrappy play, and he can hit a little to. I hope he stays up here also. I want Gallo here, but thinking he’s going to the Padres. We might have to settle for Rizzo. I would be ok with that, bro.
JoeBrady
Marte makes sense, but he also made sense two weeks ago. That makes me think they aren’t really in on him. Same with Gallo. He makes no sense, since he doesn’t play CF, but sometimes you go with the devil you know. But again, why wait until he gets red-hot and makes the AS game?
bronxbombers
The reason is because teams weren’t trading because of the focus on the draft which was moved to the day before the all star game.
Perksy
Also they are probably waiting to see where they are in the next 10 days. They play more games against Boston and tampa coming up.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Despite the intradivision entanglements, I think the Braves have a bigger need. Joc Pederson was a head-scratching move. They need BP help, too, but Marte or KB would go a fair ways toward replacing Acuna’s production without gutting their farm.
pasha2k
Jeter will prolly give his old team a top CF fir nothing!
Mjm117
Yup! Just like he did with Stanton!
NewYorkSoxFan
Stanton is an albatross and I’m sure the Yankees wish they didn’t make that deal.
Tommy Daly
Stanton came to NY after 59 HR 145 rib year, any team would have taken him, when he’s not injured he is very productive, like 7 HR in one playoff round last yr
YankeesBleacherCreature
You really need to stop with your nonsense.
driftcat28 2
Such a terrible take
howie feltersnatch
Hey if the Marlins want to reverse that trade and take back Stanton and give the Yankees back Caleb smith and all the other “bad pieces” the Marlins got. Let me know I’ll make some calls
howie feltersnatch
Didn’t think so
formerlyz
Caleb Smith and Garrett Cooper was a separate deal….
Dynasty
You seem like an intelligent individual.
Catuli Carl
Yankees will try anything to win. Anything other than just fielding a good team and playing good baseball like everyone else.
Metsin777
I think Gallo would be a perfect fit for the Yankees. He would rake with his power and that short porch. Looks like the Rangers need young pitching and the Yankees need pitching now. Clarke Schmidt, Deivi Garcia, Clint Frazier and maybe a lower end top 10 prospect like
Florial for Joey Gallo and Kyle Gibson seems like a fair trade for both teams
YankeesBleacherCreature
Garcia and Florial are two which the Yankees will not trade. Gallo alone doesn’t increase the Yankees playoffs chances by much. They need the current bats in their lineup like Torres, DJL, Sanchez, and 1B. Even Ushela has taken a step back. Gallo is a relative marginal upgrade. I’d rather them stay under the CBT this year and spend in the offseason.
Captain-Judge99
@YankeeBleacherCreature- I strongly disagree. I can definitely see Garcia going in a Adam Frazier trade or a Joey Gallo trade. I wouldn’t be shocked to see a 3 way trade with the Pirates and the Rangers that gets the Yankees Frazier and Gallo. If given the choice between the 2 players. I’d rather have Adam Frazier.
YankeesBleacherCreature
There is zero chance that Garcia gets traded for Adam Frazier.
Captain-Judge99
@YankeesBleacherCreature- sounds like you like Deivi more then Schmidty? Who do you like more Andujar or Clint Frazier? I like Andy better. How bout Schmidty or Luis Gil and Clint Frazier for Adam Frazier? Lmk
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Y4L I think you’re way overvaluing a lot of these guys. Adam Frazier is a good player but he’s not worth trading a top prospect for and won’t put the Yankees over the top. Garcia has had his struggles in AAA so his value isn’t high right now. Miggy, Clint, and Clarke aren’t worth much now as well. You have look at these trades taking into consideration the team’s roster construction and they’re payroll ramifications. It’s not as simple as trading Player A, B, and C for Player D and E.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
I love hearing Yankees fan trade proposals. It always involves getting back a teams star player for either Andujar or Frazier.
Samuel
@ FredMcGriff for the HOF;
I love reading Yankee fans trade proposals. They think every other team exists to trade them their best players for Yankee garbage.
But this Adam Frazier thing is a new one. LOL. I love watching the guy play. But………
LeMahieu and Odor both play 2B. OK – Voit is out so LeMahieu goes to 1B until he’s back. Gleyber is a very poor ML SS – he belongs at 2B (he’ll also hit better as he’ll be more comfortable playing D).
If the Twins are selling I’d try to get Simmons and get them to take Odor back as a part of the trade. Simmons goes to SS, Glayber goes to 2B where he belongs.
As for CF – there are a shortage of quality CF’s in MLB. The Yankees might have done all the can do in 2021 by picking up Greg Allen. They need to stay under the cap. They’ve been strangled with the Stanton contract and others. Judge surely wants $400m. I think the Yankees are blowing smoke. 2021 looks bad for them. They have to play their farmhands on the field…..not their farmhands buildups that they get from the national sports media. They also need a real Catcher that can call a game and work a staff. They’re a top-heavy team payroll-wise – years of they overpaying guys to play for them has caught up to them. No team will bail them out by trading for a Stanton, Sanchez, or Chapman (when asked the other day why Chapman is getting pounded, an announcer replied “it’s the sticky stuff that he can’t use on his curveball anymore”).
The Yankees are in deep dodo. The Rays and Red Sox have sharp FO’s and Managers. Cashman, Boone and their people are totally lost – they’ve scrapped fundamental baseball, and truth be told they’re crummy at trying to build a team using statistics. They may not be as bad as the mid-60’s Yankees, but this is going to go on for a bit until they can get some salaries off their books……and that’ll take years.
Captain-Judge99
@Samuel- why don’t you look up these Yankees prospects before giving a low level opinion about them lst. Adam Frazier will likely be moved at the deadline and the Yankees definitely have the pieces to get him. He can lead off and play left field. New York could trade Deivi, Schmidty, Gil, Vizcaino, and others for him. Just not all of them. Maybe 2 of them. They have excellent prospects. Don’t the Bucs need starting pitching Isn’t that why their so horrible? Smh
Samuel
@ Yankee-4-Life 75;
Why don’t you look up at the buildup that Yankee prospects have gotten for the last 10 years and tell me how good they turned out to be.
As for playing Adam Frazier in LF – typical Yankee fan thinking. Take a guy and play him at a position that he’s not good at. Do to him what they’ve done to Andujar? Didn’t Gleyber, Sanchez and others teach you anything? It puts undue pressure on Pitchers and costs the team games.
Ben Cherington knows minor leaguers.
Captain-Judge99
@Samuel- the Yankee prospects are so bad, really? Doesn’t seem like anybody is complaining about Contreras in the minors right now. No reason why Gil or Vizcaino won’t be better then him. The Yankees need a lefty contact/leadoff hitter like Adam Frazier. He definitely fits the bill. And I’m not really worried about playing Adam Frazier in left field either, we can take him out in the later innings on defense.
YankeesBleacherCreature
“….we can take him out in the later innings on defense.”
Can’t you see that alone is reason not to trade for him? You need to carry a defensive replacement on the roster for him. Those spots are valuable. Again, you can’t make trades in a vacuum.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Bro, just ignore him, @Y4L.
I used to post over at River Ave Blues. By the time I found it, every single article would have over a thousand comments. This is not hyperbole.
There were dozens of trolls like that Samuel guy. Always forecasting the demise of the Yanks year in & year out. Typically wrong, as we are always good.
Even though we are super struggling right now, we are right in the thick of the playoff race. Only for the Yanks is that considered “poor”.
Yanks are a flawed yet postseason caliber ballclub. We will probably make the playoffs. But don’t expect dudes like him to admit they were wrong. Rather, he will be posting the *exact same stuff* next year.
Bet.
It’s quite boring, really.
costergaard2
I’m 100% with you on this. Not only would I not trade kids, not only would I not go over the tax, I would sell one or two obvious pieces. I would sell Chapman and Britton. Maybe you get something, maybe you don’t, but you would shed $30mm of payroll for the fall. This team is not going to win. Trading away kids or losing draft capital next year would be totally stupid.
justinkm19
Florial for 2 All-Stars and a refining GolD Glove winner? Yeah ok.
justinkm19
Reigning
Tommy Daly
He would, except we already have a .230 hitter with power named Sanchez who hit .290 in June, but like Gallo can’t buy a hit in July, NY is stacked with HR hitters, they need a guy who hits .275+ and takes his walks
Mjm117
Austin Wells and Florial for Marte should get it done
Oldman58
What’s funny is that as the article says Aaron Hicks is out for the season and the subsequent cast of replacements hasn’t been able to pick up the slack with a 183 average. Who would’ve thought that the .194 average of Aaron Hicks would’ve been tough to replace lolol
bobtillman
I think Rob Refsnyder would be a perfect fit. Oh, you want a LH hitter?. OK, fellow HOFer Blake Swihart.
JoeBrady
Hal Steinbrenner recently voiced a willingness to cross that barrier,
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He’s not going over. Almost no chance. How incredibly stupid would it be to ignore Hicks and Voit’s injuries, plus a couple of others, only to decide on 7/30 that you changed your mind?
They’re certainly not out of it, but playing .522 ball on 7/30, instead of 7/20, just makes it that much tougher. Plus, if you are going to acquire someone who busts the payroll bubble, you’d presumably want that player before the 8 games they had scheduled with Boston this month.
Tommy Daly
Have you been watching? NYY just took 2 of 3 from Boston with their Railriders lineup (minor league team), Boston is 19th in team pitching which was going to bite them hard soon enough, no team can score 6 rpg for 162 and no pitching
seamaholic 2
If they don’t want to use any prospect resources, I bet they can get the Rockies to keep all or most of Charlie Blackmon’s salary this year, if the Yanks will take it for the final two years of his deal. He can play center (albeit not that well anymore), is a left handed pull fly ball hitter extraordinaire, and is just getting hot. They’ve had some good luck with ex-Rockies lately, to put it mildly. Got the right personality for NYC too.
Cap & Crunch
Blackmon is just about toast and Imo Yanks need to steer clear of these potential clogs moving forward and get some fresh young faces out there not wishing wells –
His days in Center are far gone as well
seamaholic 2
All true, but if they really only have $3m to spend this deadline, the only better players out there are gonna cost 2 or 3 of the Yanks top ten prospects (like Marte). Blackmon costs none, and you may even get a lower level prospect with him if you agree to pay him in 2022 and 2023. Plus he can still get hot — really hot — for short stretches.
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Blackmon will not shave, and we shouldn’t ask that beautiful bearded man to do so.
Texas Outlaw
@spend no man should ever be required to shave
Ducky Buckin Fent
I have a dress code/grooming policy for my sales guys.
Look. When it is your company/brand/name/reputation at stake, that changes things. Nothing wrong with ownership of a business endeavor having a say in the image they want to project.
When you are the one signing the checks it’s perfectly acceptable to hold your people to standards that you prefer.
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Lol what is this 1903? No tattoos either for your business? It isn’t anyone’s decision how you look and present yourself. Regardless the checks people are humans, not marketing pieces.
Ducky Buckin Fent
No.
2021. Glad to help.
Tat’s are fine. I have some (Marine). Cover them up is the rule.
No.
My company. Not theirs. & I pay them well. Anyone who does not care for it is free to leave & ply their craft elsewhere as long as it does not violate the non-compete agreements they signed.
Feel free to start your own construction company & let your people dress as you see fit. Otherwise, why mess with success.
Colt 45
“It isn’t anyone’s decision how you look and present yourself.”
That is called “self-employment”.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
My brother is a successful small business welding owner. He would hire me in a minute and I look like a Viking. He doesn’t even have to advertise anymore and just keep raising the prices to try to keep jobs at a manageable pace. That’s what you get when you are a expert welder. I also have a welding degree but he’s 3 times the welder I’ll ever be. He just wants people to show up to work.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Different type of job, @mcgriff.
I get long & short sleeve t-shirts for my tradesman & that’s that. But my sales guys are going into multimillion dollar, suburban Minneapolis homes & working out deals that will hit six figures sometimes.
Looking a certain way is beneficial.
They realize it, too.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
@ducky. Fair enough. Do you think the Yankees will make a splash at or near the deadline?
AHH-Rox
Take it from this Rockies fan, you absolutely don’t want Blackmon in CF at this point in his career.
Ex-Rockie David Dahl is probably available cheap from the Rangers and is passable in CF, but is injury-prone and maybe not much of an offensive upgrade.
Cap & Crunch
He looks bad in RF today –
Hampson had a real bad series vs LAD in center as well…haven’t watched a ton of him out there yet but they both looked bad last series , like really bad
Central Valley
Any chance the Yankees sell? If they do, would Aaron Judge be available?
I’m asking on behalf of Zaidi Farhan.
Captain-Judge99
@Central Valley- no Aaron Judge won’t be traded. Any interest in Giancarlo Stanton?The Yanks would probably pay about 25% of his contract.
skip 2
Even if Yankees pay 25% still 0% chance anyone takes him!
YankeesBleacherCreature
Frankly, no one is going to take Stanton at 75% even factoring in the covered Marlins money. He’s strictly a DH. All you have to do is look at the market when a great DH like JD Martinez decides not to opt-out nor ask for an extension with the RS.
Captain-Judge99
Really would be surprised if the Yankees didn’t trade for Anthony Rizzo who would be a lot cheaper than Joey Gallo. Adam Frazier also makes all the sense in the world. He can play 2nd or left-field, and is a contact lefty that can leadoff in the lineup.
STLBirds86
Clint Frazier for Marte? Does that get it done?
Joe says...
Not until Frazier’s vision problems are fixed.
Mjm117
Marlins already have 3 OF’s who can’t hit in Brinson, Harrison, and Sierra.
They don’t need more.
Mjm117
And all can at least man CF’. Frazier can barely handle LF
JoeBrady
No. Frazier has some talent, but also a career bWAR of 0.3. After a while, the appeal of untapped talent gets trumped by your actual results. And he is on the IL.
Cap & Crunch
No Yanks proposal is official without Andujar or Florial included !
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Lol..
Rsox
Frazier alone is not a trade chip. At this point he is a throw in. Yankees would still have to include at least one or two minor leaguers to get a deal done and that’s IF Miami would even want Frazier
formerlyz
Starling Marte for Yoendrys Gomez, Josh Breaux, and Trevor Hauver…maybe they throw in a bullpen arm with some years of control, and grab another lower level pitching prospect…
That being said, the Marlins never get value in trades, and will likely get less than what they gave up for Marte, meaning less than that, even though he has been a star while he has been on the field, and is looking for a relatively low cost deal to sign
Captain-Judge99
@formerlyz- no way the Yankees are giving all that up for a rental. Don’t get me wrong I know Starling Marte is a nice player. I just don’t see a match with the Yankees. They need lefty bats like a Adam Frazier, Anthony Rizzo or a Joey Gallo.
formerlyz
More than just a nice player, and all of those guys arent close to the big leagues right now. Hauver doesnt even really have a defensive position, though I liked him going into the draft last year b/c he can hit. Breaux honestly is also a pretty high variance prospect
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Yankees apparently will be trading Andujar in a 3 way deal to get Adolis Garcia, Starling Marte, and Joey Gallo if you ask a Yankee fan.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
If I’m Texas in that situation, I’m holding out for Sanchez, too!
Bo schemheckler
If being #2 in the league in drawing walks is your thing the Tigers have a nice shiny Robbie Grossman for you
madmanTX
Yankees need to stay away from the Rangers—waste of Rangers’ time talking to these cheapskates unless they are willing to cough up top prospects.
Captain-Judge99
@madmanTX- a little confused right now. Luis Gil and Alexander Vizcaino are not considered top prospects? Are the Rangers going to pay half of Gallo’s contract also? Probably not. How bout taking Justin Wilson back also? Lmk
48-team MLB
They can have Inciarte at no cost other than taking him off Atlanta’s payroll.
seamaholic 2
If they just want a CF who can’t hit, there are plenty of those around.
ChiSox_Fan
Billy Hamilton
But he is a Sox fan favorite.
Gk_holiday
Mitch. Haniger Baby. I would trade the farm for him. That Ol’ Boy is a gritty, gritty, 5 tool type of dude. He’s mashing on fools this year with 1 nut! AL Comeback Player of the Year no doubt.
toycannon
No way the Mariners are trading Haniger to an AL team that is chasing them in the Wild Card race. Besides the Yankees do not have anything the Mariners want. No more scrubs like Sheffield or Montero. They haven’t had a decent trade with NY since they landed Jay Buhner 30 years ago.
AHH-Rox
Would be a good candidate for the comeback award if not for Trey Mancini.
Gk_holiday
Yeah but how many nuts does Mancini have? 2 I reckon… but yeah you’re right Hani is probably runner up for the comeback award at this point.
joew
Adam Frazier is waving to you… he is an infielder that has some experience in the outfield. You want him to play at 2nd but he has wiggle room.
I don’t know his tax number but on the season he’s making 4.3m so likely MUCH lower than marte and the like.
Plus you get an extra year of control giving even more wiggle room going into 2022 which should be a lowish cap hit compared to established free agents.
EDIT: Pirates can afford to sit on him where as the Marlins are more motivated so….
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Yankees got hosed in their last trade with the Buccos. Roansy Contreras looks to be a key part of the rebuild, while Taillon isn’t helping the Yankees, albeit he has been better as of late.
joew
he will get better, he is coming off his second TJ and cancer in between. If not.. well can’t blame anyone but the yankees. they knew his health status.
But If anyone can come back from it is is Taillon. I don’t know if he will be a front line type of guy again… but i don’t see a reason why he wouldn’t be a mid rotation guy (i’ve only seen one game of his this year)
Captain-Judge99
@joew- Adam Frazier would be the perfect player for the Yankees. I think Luis Gil, Alexander Vizcaino, and a Clint Frazier could get a trade done with the Bucs.
joew
I think that is fair but If it where me (and its not) from the pirates side .. A. Fraizer, Kyle Crick and his 2020 salary for …
i’d want at least one of those pitchers or Medina.. he is more risky though and evals on him might be far apart… so pick one
would like Alcantara… Pirates could use another quality OF prospect to cover their butts.. . if i couldn’t get him then i’d go back to another one of those pitchers you mentioned can never have enough pitching and average outfielders can be picked up in free agency if you think you might make a run.
and Seigler, could be a quality backup catcher and the pirates don’t have much in the system out side of davis. Yankees have a bunch of these types in their system so they can easily afford to lose one…
I’m not in favor of C. Frazier. He wasn’t to kind in speaking about Pittsburgh when there were trade talks a few years back.. Maybe he has softened his point of view on it now that he is having no production. If they’re mainly looking to offload his contract to lower the tax cap burden then from the Pittsburgh side i’d toss in a bone to make it happen but wouldn’t be overly concerned.
Clint wouldn’t play every day this year but probably next year until some call ups happen at least.
Here is a question i don’t knwo the answer too. If Pittsburgh pays A. Frazier’s Salary.. would it count against NYY’s tax threshold? In other words does it count salary or who is paying the salary?
Captain-Judge99
@joew- no the Pirates wouldn’t have to pay Clint Frazier’s salary. I definitely feel he would become a star in Pittsburgh playing everyday next season. I here Contreras has been really impressive in the minor leagues. There is no reason to believe Gil and Vizcaino wouldn’t be really good also. The Pirates in a few years will really have a great starting rotation making a trade like this with the Yankees. Nothing to worry about as far as the future.
Samuel
Do you understand what you’re proposing?
You want Adam Frazier to come to a team in late July and play a position at the ML level that he’s not played in years. At the beginning of a stretch run. He’ll be playing in front of unforgiving Yankee fans that expect him to be perfect. He’ll be playing primarily against AL teams that he’s not that familiar with. He won’t be playing 2B which is the same dimensions in any park in America (although foul territory will be different), but rather playing LF which is different park to park – and again, in parks that he very possibly never played LF before.
And you expect him to excel?
Frazier will be a STAR in Pittsburgh? Why? He’s another Yankee star that never materialized. I thought he finally got better in 2020. Now he sucks again.
If all those players you have are so good, why trade them? Why aren’t they playing and impacting the Yankees? The team has one of the top 3 payrolls in MLB and they’re a whole 4 games over .500. Surely those young guys that are going to be so good can help the team now.
Captain-Judge99
@Samuel- plain and simple really. These prospects are just not ready yet. It will take some time and Pittsburgh has some time to get better trading for these prospects that are mentioned. I didn’t know Adam Frazier was that bad playing left. Thanks for letting me know. Left field is really a hard position at Yankee Stadium. I guess AF can play 2nd base and DJ will continue to play lst. Can AF hit lefties? I heard he can.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Y4L You seem very high on Adam Frazier yet you can’t bother to look at his platoon splits? Nor know anythng about his fielding capabilities. C’mon, man. Quit throwing names out there expecting others to do your homework.
Captain-Judge99
@YankeesBleacherCreature- never wanted Adam Frazier for his defense truthfully. I could care less. Like I said I wanted him for his leadoff lefthanded contact bat. Not for his defense.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Defense does matter especially on a team that isn’t very good on defense right now. Frazier has now a .361 BABIP vs a career .314. He’s not particularly fast and an average baserunner. His barrel rates and exit velo are at the bottom of the league. What this all means this year are his batted balls are finding perfect spots to land. Simply put – Frazier is a good player but not an impact bat nor a guy who is going to spark this team. The Yankees will need to do a lot more upgrading if they’re pushing in all of their chips this year. As for me, I’m going to check my hand and wait until next season to make bets.
joew
@YankeesBleacherCreature
Fraizer was a super utility for a long while there because they needed him to be. He has never played a position every day until recent years. When at 2nd base every day he is a gold glove candidate the past couple years.
You put him in the OF every day he will be at least average on defense… problem with that is that it might be a little while until it is seen on the field.
His bat has always been good.. well 2020.. He has hit at every level. but when he slumps he slumps hard give’m a short stint outside of the MLB field to get his timing back and he comes back strong every time.
Watching him play nearly every game you get to appreciate it more. Putting it where they’re not is his specialty and has served him well. With his ability to go to any part of the field there are only minor shifts for him which he also takes advantage of.
He is a good runner and has well above average speed, He doesn’t steal bases well though but getting to first to third isn’t a problem.
Short story, you don’t know much about Adam’s actual play, That is not unexpected not being a Pirates fan. To that point, I know little about Clint Frazier. I really don’t want him based on his stats and attitude to the Prates (a couple years back) but I have only watched him play a bit on video sites and one actual Yankees game I watched he was playing in.
Adam is worth a couple quality prospects +/- more so with his control and If the Yankees want to trade him in the off season they should be able to get some of that back.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Fair enough @joew. I’m basing my assessment from FG and IS data. I find it unlikely the Yankees will trade for him as the current roster is constructed.
joew
and thats another thing.. i don’t know the yankees makeup well just some of the eyeballing on BBRef and pipeline.. Might be silly to think it is a possibility. Teams looking for an infielder would be a better target for him.
Chicago Whales
Yanks should make a push for Bryant. He can play CF, can be a bat anywhere in the lineup and gives him exposure to the AL East for his upcoming free agency.
seamaholic 2
Bryant can’t play center.
jvent
Don’t worry Yanks, Jeter will help you with Marte
mlbnyyfan
Yankees don’t need Marte another right handed hitter. Yankees don’t need Gallo another all or nothing hitter. The answer for the Yankees is Benintendi. Cashman get it done.
64' Yanks
The Yankees are not trading, selling, or buying. Every year, Cashman and Steinbrenner say they are on the lookout for a deal, but every year they say oh we could not find a deal. 12 years gets old saying the same old line, the Yankees will be quiet at the trade deadline.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I rather hope so. I do love when the Yankees miss the playoffs, and they’re likely to if they do nothing.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
If the Yankees have any worthy prospects they should trade for kris Bryant. It would just be weird to see him without a beard.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Standard Yankee deal: Frazier and Andujar. That gets it done if the Cubbies throw in Rizzo and Contreras.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Contreras is not a throw in. He’ll net minimum 4 players. That’s a hard pass.
swinging wood
I hope someone with a beard gets traded to the Yankees and refuses to play if forced to shave. Challenge that antiquated and… arguably racist policy.
rememberthecoop
OK, the policy may be antiquated but suggesting it could be racist is a stretch. There are plenty of white guys who have beards.
swinging wood
I’m just saying some have argued that.
vocativ.com/289136/the-racist-roots-of-facial-hair…
Cap & Crunch
Jus Say’N is usually only reserved for closed door couple fights
If we are going to extrapolate it to issues of race and politics we are going to run into some Real problems
The Kids these days are Jus Say’N a lot of stuff from their cozy little desk chairs. There’s no crossover to the real world and only created confusion
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YankeesBleacherCreature
Good luck with that misguided narrative. There are plenty of non-baseball organizations that enforces a no-facial hair and hair length policy.
rememberthecoop
That’s about as passive-aggressive a take as I’ve ever seen. I’m not saying, just saying…
rememberthecoop
I think we need to stop using 2019 stats as evidence of anything – that year was an outlier because of the jack rabbit baseball. It artificially inflated slugging numbers and even BA & OBP, as pitchers were afraid to pitch to guys.
chiefnocahoma1
Marte makes sense for the Yankees, given their historical penchant for older players on the downswing. Kepler isn’t splashy enough for them, and I think Gallo would be too costly prospect-wise. Although the thought of his power and that left field porch is beyond intriguing.
Dadbodfromseattle
Trade for Mitch hanniger.
chiefnocahoma1
He doesn’t play CF
billysbballz
As long as Jasson Dominguez and Anthony Volpe isn’t dealt in any trades. Those two kids are the real deal.
billysbballz
If you are a Yankee fan and you live to play GM and fantasy trade half the farm than read this first and let’s hope Cashman isn’t as analytical driven as he appears to be.
startspreadingthenews.blog/start-spreading-the-new…
drewnats33
They could do worse than dealing for MAT from KC. He’s a good centerfieder, has some pop, hit some clutch postseason homers for the Nats and he’s a first-class teammate.
the eamus catulis
Robbie Grossman for Yanks #14 prospect Josh Smith SS at High A as a 23 year old and LSU alum.
billysbballz
Not dealing Smith for Grossman!
Rsox
Problem for the Yankees is there are not too many trades Cashman can make where he has to give up nothing in return. The Yankees can’t even offer the Marlins salary relief as they likely would be asked to pay down part of Marte’s remaining salary. Yankees also aren’t prospect rich so the bag of sun flower seeds and bucket of Big League Chew they used to get Odor from the Rangers probably doesn’t work here
lowhangingballs
How about they take Tyler Naquin from the Reds for some good RP
gorav114
Give up Jasson plus and I’m sure the Orioles will listen on Cedric Mullins. Prototypical lead-off guy with pop and fantastic defense. Not only that but he isn’t even arb eligible yet so wouldn’t mess with cap and they could have him for at least five years. Gonna take a haul though so how bad do they want to make playoffs this season
YankeesBleacherCreature
Why not aim higher and go for Guerrero Jr.? Not every teams’ star player is expendable. These teams still need to maintain positive PR and sell home tickets.
Captain-Judge99
@GoRav114- you got anymore left of whatever legal thing your smoking? Smh
gorav114
Not saying its fair, just saying it is gonna take a top prospect for Mullins. He’s literally an all star that plays gold glove defense in center. 5 tool players r expensive to trade for
Very Barry
Alex Cora > Aaron Boone ….. not even close!
Captain-Judge99
@Very Barry- of course, didn’t Alex Cora spend years cheating on two major league teams, that we know about??? So of course he is a much better manager then Aaron Boone… smh