5:05 pm: There are twelve total positive cases, manager Dave Martinez told reporters (including Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post). Those are four players (including Turner) and eight staff members. Eleven of the twelve have been vaccinated, according to Martinez. Fortunately, no one involved feels seriously ill, which the skipper attributed to the high vaccination rate among those infected.
MLB has tentatively scheduled a doubleheader tomorrow to make up tonight’s game. That, of course, is pending additional follow-up testing.
4:34 pm: Tonight’s game between the Phillies and Nationals has been postponed due to positive COVID-19 tests within the Washington organization, Jeff Passan of ESPN was among those to report. “Multiple players and coaches” with the club have tested positive, according to Passan, who suggests the current outbreak might be the most significant MLB has seen in 2021. Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic first reported the game might be in jeopardy.
Star shortstop Trea Turner was pulled from last night’s game after testing positive, and follow-up testing today revealed further spread among the club. The teams are scheduled to play tomorrow evening, although it certainly seems possible that game could also be in jeopardy given Passan’s report of multiple people now afflicted with the virus. Notably, tomorrow evening’s game is Max Scherzer’s final scheduled start before the trade deadline.
Washington is one of the teams to have crossed the 85% vaccination threshold for Tier 1 personnel, Mark Zuckerman of MASNsports.com was among those to note. The Nationals also dealt with COVID spread at the beginning of the season, forcing the postponement of the first four games of their season.
Right before the All-Star break the Phillies were forced to play a game against Boston despite a COVID outbreak amongst their team. Even the scheduled starting pitcher was out. Phillies had to play that game. They won somehow.
I agree with MLB’s cautionary protocols, but I’m confused as to why some games are canceled and others aren’t. Seems unfair.
no VV vs Scherzer now. province.
Cause scherzer will be on the west coast
In some cases they have all the results back and can comfortably say the spread has stopped. In this case, there are results pending, and it would be negligent to put potentially infected players on the field while also not being able to hold them out because results have not deemed them infected or not infected.
Thank you for answering my concern with logic.
Yet somehow, Turner was on the field playing, pending a result of a test. So when the result comes back positive, he’s rushed off the field. All of this after interacting with each and any person he sat near, spoke to, stretched with, threw with. They should not play an individual with inconclusive results.
To be fair Bohm was pulled during a game in Boston in which he homered, donned the Sombrero that they use after each home run and high fived probably every single person in the dugout soooo…
11/12
So “vaccine” is a joke as many people say.
Still need masks, 11/12 of these people were vaxed. Many more out and about in the world.
No. Vaccine isn’t a joke. As the article states limited symptoms likely due to high vaccine count.
Are you just stirring up trouble, or willfully ignorant of how this vaccine saves people’s lives?
More and more it seems as though it barely even prevents vaccinated people from catching the virus. If the entire population of the country who had been vaccinated took as many tests as MLB players do, I bet those numbers would be crazy if 11 guys who were vaccinated caught it in one clubhouse. The amount of breakthrough infections we hear about is very small, because most people who have been vaccinated don’t get tested anymore. Why would they if they weren’t feeling sick?
Or everyone took off their masks, and some folks who didn’t get vaccinated got sick and died.
The vaccine isn’t like a bulletproof vest. Yes, it lessens your chances of getting it, but at the end of the day, the reason the vaccine is so important is that if you still get it, your odds of being hospitalized or killed by COVID are negligible.
If you look at the covid case, hospitalization and most importantly death rates, the numbers dropped significantly after the vaccine was rolled out and made easily accessible back in March/April.. Over 90% of those hospitalized and 99% killed were unvaccinated. The exact ratio of COVID deaths in June of 2021 was 99.2% unvaccinated vs. 0.8% vaccinated. This number can be fact checked.
Yes, I can understand that this vaccine came out quickly, yes I understand that the government has played biological warfare on people before (Tuskegee Syphilis’s Experiment), at the end of the day though, there’s a reason many of the people broadcasting their opposition to the vaccine were among the first in line to get theirs, and the infection rates, hospitalizations and deaths have slowed significantly since the vaccine became widely available.
Obviously, everyone is their own person, regardless of how much data is available, some people will never get the vaccine and we can’t change that, but it’s important that we try to help people understand how important it is, not only for their own protection, but for the protection of others around them. Especially the kids who are too young to be vaccinated.
What?! The cases increased for the opposite reason, because people refuse to get vaxed. You may still get it with a vaccine, but it is highly effective against severe cases.
Why does MLB continue to test anyway? Nurses and doctors don’t readily test. Police officers, firefighters, paramedics are not continually testing. The military and teachers don’t continually test, yet testing is still a MLB priority?
What is something MLB teams do that none of those other professions do? Stop and think for a bit you will get it.
Compromise their immune systems with steroids?
Some steroids improve your immune system.
NJ
Compared to the billions of doses administered world wide the number of people who had severe complications or died is miniscule but don’t let facts and the truth get in the way of your agenda.
He didn’t have an agenda in his point…
@Zerbs63
You’re on to MLB. Pay close attention.
Seriously someone has to keep the hysteria going because that’s what the globalist corporations want. Now you can’t even purchase tickets or food at a game unless you submit to the new world fascists & accept their cashless system. The end game is total control.
Would seem you have never travelled on an international flight. Inflight purchases on most airlines have been cashless for years. “Fascists to have cashless payments “- SMH .
I just made my own vaccine card and purchased tickets. Pretty simple.
I have flown on scores of international flights. Most international flights became cashless years ago because of how confusing it was to accept hundreds of different currencies that exist worldwide. That was a terrible point.
And if you had it before and the vaccine you may still test positive
Notably, tomorrow evening’s game is Max Scherzer’s final scheduled start before the trade deadline.
Max didn’t even face the Orioles and he was scheduled, but got pushed back
Looks like interested parties will have to make their move based on past results.
In fairness, Scherzer’s career is far more likely to be in line with what you are getting than one random start that could be good or could be bad.
@hiflew
And this is to all as well.
I was being a bit sarcastic, I know this might surprise some
Also in seriousness, I hope Max goes to the Rays, if traded
Aside from his recent injury, which seems minor, he has a rather lengthy body of work on which to base decisions.
Max was just petrified to have to face Austin Wynns.
@Bob
I know I would be too if I were Max
If max didnt throw a single inning this year but was declared healthy Washington would still get a massive haul for him.
I think teams will take their chances.
the Nats again?
“Washington is one of the teams to have crossed the 85% vaccination threshold for Tier 1″……weird!
Perhaps it’s the 15% who refused the vaccine that are causing the current outbreak. Hasn’t this been the case with the recent surge of COVID-19 infections, especially in the wake of the more highly contagious Delta variant?
Exactly!
Possible and probable. However everyone in the U.S. has had a chance to get the vaccine so grown adult’s are weighing the risk. There is no mandate by the league so there is an inherent risk they all run. I agree it stinks, but nobody should be forcing anyone to get the vaccine.
That’s like saying it’s everyone’s individual choice to drive drunk. You don’t have freedom to put others at avoidable risk. Vaccines should be mandatory for all but those with medical conditions.
We didn’t make enhanced screening optional at TSA checkpoints after 911, did we? Where were you guys complaining about government overreach when the threat was terrorists living 10000 miles away? Now that we have a disease killing more than WWII did Republicans don’t want to do a damn thing about it in the name of freedom. Utterly embarrassing.
I’m truly sorry that freedom is embarrassing to you
And the Patriot Act was one of the 10 worst things this nation has ever been stampeded to do.
Shame the social contract in America is breaking down.
America must be represented by Boras Corp.
11 of the 12 were vaccinated. Kind of kills your “maybe it’s the 15% causing the current outbreak” routine.
The 15% caused 11 vaccinated people to get it? More likely the vaccinated people started getting lax with protocols. Otherwise more non gazed people would have come down with it.
What about my body my choice? No vaccine for me.
Fred, I agree with “my body my choice” when the decision only affects “me.” But covid has killed over 600k in the US and those who get it spread it to others including kids who can’t get vaccinated and some adults who have medical conditions where they can’t be vaccinated or, for whom the vaccination doesn’t produce strong immunity. So, “my body my choice, even if I give you a deadly disease” doesn’t fly for me.
I 100% disagree with this take. 911 paved the way for The Patriot Act. A horrible piece of legislation that makes it OK for the government and big tech to spy on and target anyone they so please. I am not ok with this, nor will I ever be. It is a gross violation of our freedoms that continues to exist because no matter what party is in power, it grants them complete and total control. So they keep it intact for this exact reason.
I am vaxxed but know plenty of people who are not. I respect their choice. Also, I find it kind of ironic that a large portion of those who want to mandate vaccinations are also a large part of the pro choice crowd for women. Hypocrisy at its finest. This country is @$$ backwards sometimes.
nailed it
You do know your argument can be turned on it’s head. The ” my body my choice ” crowd are also the predominate group that wants to take away a woman’s right to choose.
No longer seems to apply to women and abortion. Why should you get what they don’t?
Ted that talking point comparison from the Dems does not make a bit of sense.
I got the vaccine and support everyone to get it. But I believe that our country is still based in individual freedoms.
So the options are I’m supposed to wear a mask forever or we are going to hold people down and inject something into their bodies they don’t want?
Everyone has had the opportunity to get the shot. As a result the governments role is over. They can do all the PSAs they want but weather you like it or not freedom to do what you want with your body wins in the end.
Q is in the house. What total demented rubbish
soup sandwich
i’ll take a soup sandwich. and can i get sweet potato fries instead of regular?
So no Max trade due to COViD lol
This after having a huge outbreak that delayed the beginning of the Nationals season. WTF!
in washington, it’s WFT
Funny how the league made the Astros play their games back in April when they had an outbreak….. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Razorhogz Exactly right. And the Phillies were forced to play right before the All-Star break.
Max is one of the heads in the players association they r going to walk egg shells with what ever team he’s on that’s just my opinion but seems legit lol
Funny how none of the Astros showed up to the All Star game..
Funny how the Astros are playing .667 ball since that nice R & R for those players
I’m sure the comments will be filled with epidemiologists asking “wHaT’s tHe pOiNt oF gEtTiNg vAcCiNaTeD iF yOu cAn sTiLl tEsT pOsItIvE?”
whats the point of alternating caps?
What’s the point of getting vaccinated if you can still test positive?
Might wanna check your keyboard. Something seems off. I wrote the same sentence and mine looks less annoying to read.
I get your point, but would rather read 6.8 of those comments for every on that does the sarcasm typing you just did.
DTJB – is that what alternating caps is supposed to represent? Here i am thinking its just a dick move to annoy people – didn’t realize it meant something
It’s an old meme filter that people used for sarcasm and to sound stupid. This clown thinks recycled memes from 2019 is still “hip”
It’s kind of like when someone start ironically saying a popular phrase you think is dumb, but now they are just like all the dumb people who say that phrase
I read this in Joe Biden’s stuttering confused daze
Imagine thinking that 90% protection and protection from severe symptoms meant that you couldn’t still contract COVID.
What’s the point of getting vaccinated if they want you to wear a mask after the fact?
To protect children, immuno-compromised adults, and the self-centered morons who can -but won’t- get the shot, from getting very ill.
In other words. “The weak.”
Republicans of 2009: Obamacare might result in death panels that ration care to the elderly (it doesn’t). Republicans of 2020: screw the old and weak, I want to walk around without a mask on. It’s sooo inconvenient.
Can’t they just wear masks then? I only got the vaccine so I could take mine off and get back to normal
You were right, we have a lot of doctors making these groundbreaking explanations and giving their desperately needed opinions in this thread. “cOvId 19 iS fAkE”
“BoTOx wOrKs bEtTeR tHaN tHe VaCcIne”
What’s the point? You get vaccinated because you are not stupid and understand that vaccination means you reduce the likelihood that you get infected by 95 percent and the likelihood that you get seriously ill, are hospitalized, and die by even more than that. You would be much less contagious if infected than those unvaccinated, meaning you will be less likely to pass the virus along to those who can’t be vaccinated, who are immunocompromised, or are too stupid to get the vaccine. But, you know all that, don’t you?
Why were the Phils forced to scramble to field a team due to covid but the Nats are given a pass? Such bs from MLB.
Maybe the game was cancelled because both teams players, FO’s and manager / coaches were too embarrassed to go out there and play.
They should cancel all the NL East teams games for the rest of the season. Call it ‘MLB’s Merci Rule’. If fans want to show up, let them in for free and show ‘3 Stooges’ movies on the large screens. Ineptitude should be enjoyed instead of being taken seriously.
Get vaxxed, idiots.
They are vaxxed. Read the article.
Perhaps we all might wait to see if the infected Nationals players and coaches came from the 15% pool who refused a vaccine, no?
Perhaps you can explain how they will prove who had it first. It’s not an STD.
Welp, here ya go!
“Eleven of the twelve have been vaccinated” Let me guess, it was the one that wasn’t vaccinated that started all of this, LOL!
Are you suggesting that folks should not get vaccinated, that the vaccines are ineffective or that COVID-19 is a hoax? Instead of beating around the bush with innuendo or sarcasm, why not just lay your opinion out clearly for everyone to see?
We did. 11/12 were vaxxed.
These types of articles should specify WHICH vaccine the infected players got.
Likely J&J, which means only 66% effective.
How would MLBTR know what vaccine a person received?
Everyone gets vaccinated then no more postponements. Wise up!
yeah, except in this case WSH would still have to fly in 11+ guys from Rochester on a whim. not that easy.
“Washington is one of the teams to have crossed the 85% vaccination threshold for Tier 1”
Who’s the idiot now?
The person who willingly got the J&J vaccine instead of more efficacious options.
The range of efficacy for the Johnson vaccine is 67% and the other vaccines provide a range of 64% to 96%. So the data isn’t exactly definitive . In addition some medical professionals are suggesting that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will require 3rd doses.
If the positive guys are vaccinated they likely will have the mild, short delta Covid experience that the stats show is the overwhelming outcome for vaccinated persons who test positive.
If the positives are unvaccinated they might die
You might die, if you walk out of the house today….what’s your point?
There are safety measures in place to help lower the causs of dying by simply walking out of your house. Paved roads and traffic lights for example. Countless other safety measures to help society function. Of course you can still die at any minute, but your odds are a lot lower due to these measures. Vaccine works that way too.
The unvaccinated are also keeping it here longer and helping it spread more quickly. Variants are also more contagious. Imagine if 85-90% of the population were vaccinated. There wouldn’t be as many cases and we would be closer to normalization. It attacks the weakest link, and thus why you see so many cases in states with lower vaccination rates. If you’re not going to do it for yourself, do it for your community, or just the greater good for our society. I know for some that is hard imagine because all they care about is #1.
Go test that theory, Arthur.
Still Arthur Morgan.
I’m a big fan of everyone getting vaccinated, but we still live in a free country. And calling people idiots in an effort to “get them to see the light” or win them over doesn’t work.
You’d think that’d be the case but apparently people’s use of instagram and twitter have skewed that presence of mind. It’s pretty funny though reading people saying “1 out of 13 not vaccinated so, ergo, its that persons fault!”, without realizing how much damage that does to their push for more vaccinations. Since ya know, they still got it.
But maybe we can agree this situation is a bit nuanced and calling people idiots or a-holes hasn’t educated anyone in the slightest. In fact, it’ll have them dig their heels.
Everyone quit being dicks. But it may be better to shut the comments.
We live in a country with freedom of speech, free elections, and so forth as enumerated in the Constitution. We do not live in a country without rules. You have no right to simply do as you please.
*schoolmarm with hands on hips emoji*
“We do not live in a country without rules. You have no right to simply do as you please.”
Sorry, Ma’am, but we pretty much DO have that right.
Sigh.
One thing that gets lost here is a team could be at 85 percent but that includes coaches, staff, team secretaries and AAA guys. Likely most teams are at 60-80 pct for actual players.
For the next month or so, I don’t see how we see more of this as it isn’t mandated or quasi mandated like the NFL. I think we have a real chance of the league updating the policy before year end to be closer to the NFL. At the end of the day, the league wants to make as much money as possible and any risk to it’s product and the money making playoffs won’t be accepted.
you could be 100 % vaccinated and still get the virus.
Of course. But this league is about money. If it was mandated, I wouldn’t see the need to keep the current testing. Sure, some people would still get it but unless is showing real symptoms, they could just play on.
Geez. Get the freaking vaccine and be done with it! MLB needs to play hardball. If you can’t field a team because of Covid outbreaks, then you forfeit the game. Folks need some incentive to care about their health.
vaccinated or not, you could still test positive
Vaccinated players are allowed to play even when there’s a team outbreak.
not if they test positive
I bet the Phillies are okay with postponing these games until they can swing a trade for a starter and couple of bullpen arms.
@ham77 Not really. Because Wheeler was scheduled to pitch tonight and Harper is on fire right now.
Please don’t follow the data, follow the science; they are NOT the same. Getting vaccinated almost assuredly decreases viral lode, which eases symptoms (almost definitely) and decreases likelihood of transmission (highly likely). It simply doesn’t matter if you HAVE the virus; testing positive (except in very limited demographic situations, like health workers) is almost inconsequential.
THAT’S the science. The data? Ya, Guam has more infections than China…..and we’re making decisions based on that nonsense. EVERYBODY failed…EVERYBODY…..
11/12 vaccinated?? Let’s all blame the 1 person vs the idiots that “made” the vaccine. Oh, and let’s make sure the idiots that made the vaccine have immunity if it ends up causing issues
I swear Anthony Franco lives to post this Covid articles. Does he even write baseball stuff? And then it’s like a race to see how disrespectful everyone can be in here.
why is this not about baseball?
Would you rather have someone get the Vaccine and they might contract COVID but be fine a week later, or NOT get the Vaccine and have long term affects which effects a persons play (ie. Yoan Moncada). Just saying
43 vaccinated folks have died of Covid since February 8, in Texas
And how many unvaccinated have died since Feb 8?
“Would you rather have someone get the Vaccine and they might contract COVID but be fine a week later, or NOT get the Vaccine and have long term affects which effects a persons play (ie. Yoan Moncada). Just saying”
It’s not black and white, Jack.
Sorry, numbers don’t lie pal. You might, but numbers don’t.
I don’t lie, pal, but humans using statistics are notorious for doing just that. What I’m saying – and ALL that I’m saying here – is that it is not as simple as you make it out to be in your post.
So let me reiterate for the slow of comprehension : It’s not black and white, Jack.
Ok. You have a right to your opinion, that’s fine. How many unvaccinated people died since feb 8 again? Just wondering
1. It is not “my opinion”. It’s not black and white, Jack.
2. Prob thousands of unvaxed folks have died of covid in that period.
Excactly. So what would you rather have: 43 unvaccinated folks dead or thousands dead?
We have both. It’s not black and white, Jack.
My point is, you can’t argue with the numbers. If those thousands of people got vaccinated, would they all die just as they did? No, so quite obviously the vaccine is effective.
I do not recall posting anything as to the vaccines’ relative efficacy. It’s not black and white, Jack.
It’s pretty clear the vaccine has been a failure. You won’t ever see them announce that on the news though. Too much money involved.
Wow you must be really smart then, why don’t you run for office?
Because so many smart people run for office…smh.
True, we haven’t had a logical person run in years
should have saved that money invested on that non-approved vaccine and used it for a prevention and treatment pill
Which is also unapproved? Sure. Every single public health official has approved the Vaccine. You can honestly say whatever you want about this but the truth is the truth.
Which you have the option to invest in.
it isn’t approved by the fda
Only a failure to the extent a bunch of selfish and/or misinformed people have refused to get vaccinated.
Im an independent but I think it’s just plain idiotic not to get the Vaccine. As simple as that
will you be playing russian roulette with 1 jab, or 2?
Jab yourself.
no thanks
What is the mlb guideline? I am vaccinated, test positive, have no symptoms/ have symptoms How fast do I get back on the field? Is it just when I just test negative again?
You’d think that’d be the case but apparently people’s use of instagram and twitter have skewed that presence of mind. It’s pretty funny though reading people saying “1 out of 13 not vaccinated so, ergo, its that persons fault!”, without realizing how much damage that does to their push for more vaccinations. Since ya know, they still got it.
But maybe we can agree this situation is a bit nuanced and calling people idiots or a-holes hasn’t educated anyone in the slightest. In fact, it’ll have them dig their heels.
Everyone quit being dicks. But it may be better to shut the comments.
Fair
Exactly. Divided we fall
But I thought the virus was fake
Me too
Yeah same
We’re still doing this…
There are literally thousands of places to get information about the virus as well as the vaccine. Too many to visit/watch/read – and then you have to decide how much to trust the source – all too confusing. What I did was randomly choose between tv,printed media and internet – pulled internet out of the hat. Then wrote down 50 websites I frequent (although not all equally so that may skew results) that have info on virus and such. whatever I pull out of the hat is my trusted source – no ifs ands or buts. And the winner is…prisonplanet. – this ought to be interesting from this point forward lol
Total thumbs up on that one!!!!! Well done. LOL! I’m gonna go with ….
KANYE’S TWITTER FEED!!!!!!
i like google news. gives you several pieces on any one topic.
The problem doesn’t lie solely on representation (or misrepresentation) regarding vaccinations. It’s all still a learning process even for those, unlike us, who study extensively.
I have no issue if someone chooses to or not. I did get it but that’s my choice. I know people who had a seizure from their first dose, are you going to threaten them with the second by calling them a moron? Or I know specifically women who have had fertility issues from prior use of other vaccines. They know it’s not all the same, but are they a-holes because they’re worried that this could further push away their ability to have children? What about people who are recommended by their PCP to hold off on vaccinations (due to their overall age and health) because they show rare indicators that they are vulnerable of moderate-severe side effects from said shot?
Problem is we have so many people calling one another an idiot versus actually allowing conversation. I know people in situations I stated earlier. They constantly lie about being vaccinated because everyone around them says “you’re an F’ing idiot if you aren’t!!!!” type crap.
So just stop with that nonsense. You are doing the medicine world a disservice by trying to be the spokesman of it, throwing out insults. Which, really, is a dumb thing to do on its own, as I can probably promise anyone here is not studying virology at Cambridge.
THAT is an excellent post.
Thank you.
Love the pivot some of y’all have made from the virus is fake to the vaccine doesn’t work what’s next
In every definition I found, vaccines inject parts or all of a microorganism, such as viruses and bacteria, into our body to stimulate our development of antibodies to fight the microorganism and build up our immune system, but COVID-19 injections don’t work that way. Instead of injecting microorganisms, they inject genetic material, a strand of synthesized messenger RNA, called mRNA, that gives instructions to the cells of our body to produce the antigenic substances, such as viral protein snippets or fragments, to cause our body to develop antibodies to fight against those same substances that our body created. (Source: mayo.edu)
Ted that talking point comparison from the Dems does not make a bit of sense.
I got the vaccine and support everyone to get it. But I believe that our country is still based in individual freedoms.
So the options are I’m supposed to wear a mask forever or we are going to hold people down and inject something into their bodies they don’t want?
Everyone has had the opportunity to get the shot. As a result the governments role is over. They can do all the PSAs they want but weather you like it or not freedom to do what you want with your body wins in the end.
Those Texas Dems started a superspreader in DC.
The Phillies or the Super Spreader Team by not being vaccinated.At least they are good at one thing.
The only thing coming from the phillies is crickets.We really tried but there was nothing there BS for DUMBO to do.SELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
“11 of the 12 have been vaccinated”…and still tested positive…yup that vaccine is amazing!! it’s all B.S.