5:22PM: Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski spoke with MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki and other reporters today, reiterating that the team will “be aggressive” in its pursuit of roster help, and the Phillies are “kind of open to anything” in regards to adding pieces to the roster.
Unless “we got crushed seven games in a row, and the Mets won seven games in a row” before Friday’s trade deadline, Dombrowski said that the Phillies are planning to be buyers. “The one thing I can safely say is we’re not in a position where we’re looking to move players,” the PBO said. “That is not where we are. We’re looking to add players to our club, if we can.”
Dombrowski declined to publicly comment on whether or not Phillies ownership was willing to let the team cross the $210MM luxury tax threshold, only saying that “ownership here is very supportive of trying to win.” In terms of trades, Dombrowski didn’t rule out the addition of rental players, but “would not anticipate” that the Phillies would move top prospects for such short-term upgrades.
8:52AM: Though the Phillies are sporting a -12 run differential on the year, they may represent the most viable threat to the Mets division lead in the National League East. The Nationals are 3-7 in their last ten, now seven games behind the Mets, and the cavalry may not be coming. The Braves know they’ll be without their biggest star, and despite having the best run differential in the division right now at +26, it’s hard to consider Atlanta as a viable threat without Ronald Acuna Jr. The Marlins are 41-57, 12 games out, and they’re in full-on sell mode.
That leaves the Phillies. Though they’re exactly .500 at 48-48, that leaves them right where they’ve been for most of the Bryce Harper era. This team didn’t re-sign J.T. Realmuto and hire Dave Dombrowski to run the front office just to stand pat, however. Not only are rival executives expecting the Phillies to be aggressive this trade deadline, but they think the Phillies will be willing to exceed the luxury tax, if that’s what it takes to find the right upgrades, per Jon Heyman of the MLB Network (via Twitter).
As for what the Phillies might be pursuing, there are plenty of avenues to improve the roster. Heyman suggests they could use a starter, multiple relievers and a centerfielder. Alec Bohm has not been good at third base (-0.1 fWAR), but they’re not close to moving on from the 25-year-old former top prospect.
The bullpen’s shortcomings have been thoroughly noted, and it now seems a near certainty that they’ll add at least one bullpen arm. The question is whether they’ll shell out for a premium arm like the Cubs’ Craig Kimbrel, or if they’ll target cheaper options like the Pirates’ Richard Rodriguez or Ian Kennedy of the Rangers.
They could aim even lower and shop in the non-premium section of opposing bullpens where there are plenty of viable options for the right price: the Cubs’ Ryan Tepera and Andrew Chafin, the Twins’ Caleb Thielbar and Tyler Duffey, or Anthony Bass, Dylan Floro, and Yimi Garcia of the Marlins are a few names worth checking in on.That said, if there’s any team that might look for a fire-tested closer to take the reins, Philly would be it.
In center, Starling Marte would be the obvious target, though it’s unclear how willing the Marlins are to move him within the division — nor is it clear if the Phillies have what Miami GM Kim Ng desires in a return package. For starters, the Marlins are seeking a long-term replacement for Marte in center, per Craig Mish of the Swings and Mishes podcast. That’s going to slow trade discussions, as most teams will balk at moving a younger, cheaper option in center, especially if the Marlins are prioritizing near ML-ready prospects.
The Phillies do have some centerfield prospects they could dangle, such as Simon Muzziotti, their 10th-ranked prospect by Fangraphs, Mickey Moniak, their 8th-ranked prospect, or Johan Rojas, their 4th-ranked prospect. Of the three, Muzziotti probably comes closest to starting the conversation for Marte.
None of the three are blue-chippers, however, and only Moniak has advanced beyond High-A. Moniak, of course, was the former No. 1 overall draft pick,but he’s fallen down prospect charts since his selection in the 2016 draft. Baseball America calls him “a fourth or fifth outfielder,” and he wouldn’t likely be viewed as a centerpiece in a Marte deal.
Without a ton of options on the market, Philly might need to stick with their in-house options. Odubel Herrera has returned to action after missing all of 2020, but he’s rocking just an 86 wRC+. Travis Jankowski’s been a revelation through 68 plate appearances, though the 30-year-old was a 76 wRC+ hitter through 994 plate appearances prior to this season. The fact remains that outside of Marte, there aren’t a ton of available centerfielders on the market.
The Phillies might have an easier time upgrading their pitching staff, especially given the low bar. Beyond the bullpen, Philadelphia needs more for the rotation, though Dombrowski hasn’t exactly succeeded in that regard thus far, writes Scott Lauber of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Offseason additions Matt Moore and Chase Anderson have posted -0.1 fWAR apiece while earning a combined $7MM.
Philly starters have a 4.21 ERA, which ranks 21st in the Majors overall, though they’re 12th by the measure of a 3.97 combined FIP. They rank 10th overall in innings pitched. Still, they could conceivably find upgrades for 60 percent of the rotation, given the uncertain track records of Vince Velasquez and rookie Spencer Howard. It’s unlikely they’ll find three starters, but it’s also hard to reason Dombrowski coming away from the trade deadline without any new arms in the rotation.
Cole Hamels has been a popular name of late, and it would certainly be fun to see the 37-year-old back in a Phillies uniform. He also comes with the added benefit of not costing prospects. Hamels alone won’t be enough, but there’s not much risk in seeing if he can upgrade Moore’s spot in the rotation.
Kayrall
Moniak seems to be more of a throw-in/change of scenery guy than a centerpiece to a trade at this point.
13Morgs13
Phillies have a below average farm system, plenty of holes, and 1 great SP. DeGrom/Acuna injury + a weak division has the FO thinking playoffs.
DonB34
But the hole is mostly bullpen. They have 23 blown saves! Take away half of those, and they are easily in first place. Neris as the closer again this season was a terrible idea (should have not even offered him a contract in arbitration), letting Tony Watson opt-out in spring training in order to keep David Hale was mistake #2. Could have kept Watson PLUS signed Mark Melancon for basically what they paid Neris and Hale…..
ABCD
Call the Cubs. They have a fine array of reliever rentals.
Stott for Kimbrel?
ABCD
Actually, Kimbrel has a team option for ’22. The Cubs may pay down the rest of his salary for this year too.
Franco27
No reason for Cubs to pay down his salary.
LarryBiitnersGhost
That’s the level of prospect Kimbrel will command. He’s got another year of club control so he’s no rental, and is a well proven premium. The Cubs should settle for nothing less than a top-5 prospect, if not top 3 in return. Teams have to have a closer – the Cubs have them over the barrel and need to capitalize.
ABCD
Could pick up another player or two if the Phillies want to stay under the tax threshold.
Jake1972
Not happening seeing Kimbrel is having a great year.
RunDMC
Did I hear correctly that they have one of the worst bullpens…ever?? Yes, playoff aspirations for ole Double-D. Trade the remnants of a farm system for that snowball’s chance. Didi’s walkup music is great though.
Monkey’s Uncle
Good point about Watson, I had forgotten about that. Hindsight is of course perfect but Watson has a proven track record and wasn’t going to be expensive either.
13Morgs13
The Phillies problems go way deeper then the bullpen. The SP is awful after Wheeler
VonPurpleHayes
13Morgs, the bullpen problems impact everything though. It demoralizes an entire team when no lead is safe. It changes the way hitters hit. It changes the way starters pitch. Fixing the bullpen would go a long way into improving the entire team.
Angels & NL West
VonPurpleHayes, agreed regarding the impact of BP problems. Angels fans feel your pain.
VonPurpleHayes
Angels and Phillies are amazingly similar.
Angels & NL West
… and right now, thats not a good thing.
VonPurpleHayes
Definitely not. Too much talent to rebuild, but not enough pieces to contend. An odd limbo.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Blown saves remind me of missed game winning kicks, @Hayes. Can completely destroy team morale.
Bob333
Wonder why where did Klentak come from
timpa
Roberto Osuna is pitching really well (stat wise) in the Mexican League. Not sure what his velocity is.
SportsFan0000
Phils bullpen has cost them 1st place in the Division. If they can find at least 2-3 reliable bullpen arms, then they are right in the Division and Wild Card races…
A better CF would be a plus also.
seth3120
The Phil’s have holes but bullpen holes(along with depth/bench help)are typically cost the least in salary and prospects via trade. The Phil’s have been going for it since the Harper deal and although it’s made zero sense to me that they’ve waited this long to address the bullpen it’s no reason not to fix it now. If not now then when? When Harper is on the declining portion of his deal? They’ve made the mistake of signing star players without filling out the supporting cast which was easily fixed in comparison and now have DD at the helm. These next few seasons they need to be pushing they have no choice after being so aggressive on top free agents. They’ve had a couple of seasons of sitting back and watching what the affect of skimping on a bullpen can have DD will likely push to acquire top tier guys but even capable arms puts the Phil’s in contention. Again they don’t need an ace, middle of the order start player, etc they need a few bullpen arms and this team would look completely different. Wouldn’t doubt it if DD acquired Kimbrel and a couple of other capable arms to really solidify the bullpen but I wouldn’t sell the farm for Kimbrel. Although he looks incredible this season and comes with an option both his salary this year an his option don’t offer a big surplus value you’d basically be paying market value in salary plus prospects to acquire him. Just depends on what the Cubs want and what other teams are willing to give up to acquire him I guess. But there are a ton of substantial upgrades for them out there even if they aren’t quite at the level of Kimbrel they could stop the purging of late in losses.
SportsFan0000
Probably upgrade bullpen arms without shelling out for Kimbrell.
Lots of bp arms that are cheaper, effective and won’t cost their best prospects..
Joel Peterson
The Phillies are such a mess. Ever since they won a championship over a decade ago they have spent more on less than just about any team in baseball.
Monkey’s Uncle
“More on” = moron, and many would say that the Phillies have had a few of those in charge of baseball operations in recent years.
MasterShake
Great way to put it
Joel Peterson
Yeah you can’t judge baseball teams just on wins and losses. As a Cardinal fan to be a 500 team after getting Goldschmidt and Arenado is the same thing. These are the teams that are really failing in 2021 not teams like the Tigers they planned on losing.
SportsFan0000
Phils started their rebuild 2-3 years too late and ended it 2-3 years too soon. Former front office has messed up their drafting of players etc..
NewYorkSoxFan
Dombrowski is about to put this team in a hole they won’t climb out of for years, with nothing to show for it. Happy the Red Sox got rid of him when they did.
Bill Kane
But he did get you a championship
Joel Peterson
These guys like Dombrowski and Epstein have a knack for floating in at just the right time then also leaving when it goes south. It’s really lame and a reflection on the elite cheating the rules.
Samuel
@ Joel Peterson;
You think Dombrowski “float(ed) in at the right time”?
LOL
He inherited a team up against the salary cap, a terrible farm system, no CF, 3 starting pitchers, and next to no one in the bullpen that could be depended on.
Joel Peterson
Hey it was the best job he could find. The team is trying to win. It’s spending a lot of money. The Phillies look like a bullpen away from being a good team.
LarryBiitnersGhost
Lol Epstein “floated” into a disaster in Chicago and had a WS within 5 years in a place where it hadn’t happened in 100+ years. Dumbest comment of the day.
Kayrall
@Peterson
The Cubs’ system was a barren wasteland when Epstein took over. The big league club had few controllable assets, most of which were on bad contracts (e.g. Soriano.)
1984wasntamanual
How did Theo float in at the right time?
stevetampa
Best job he can find? He wasn’t even looking. Middleton lured him from another commitment to come and join the Phillies.
butch779988
You probably shouldn’t post having no sense of reality.
NewYorkSoxFan
He did but we got rid of him just in time. He’s great for building a championship contender but at what cost? Look at Detroit since he left… If the Red Sox gave him a couple more years we’d be in bad shape IMO.
bucketbrew35
Lol, yup, look at the cost. A couple year WS Hangover and currently pacing the American League. After watching the Phillies be mediocre to bad for a decade plus I’ll gladly take that trade off.
stymeedone
Detroit contended for 10 years while he was there. Don’t forget to look at that part, too. He wasn’t allowed to rebuild because Mr I wanted to see a WS during his lifetime. Trading Cespedes and Price for young players got him fired.
tribepride17
These Red Sox fans are so spoiled that they complain about a man who won them a ring because they lost some good prospects in the process. Must be nice to have that good of a team to root for. My team can’t even find a good graphic designer to make a new team logo.
SportsFan0000
The Red Sox have a very bad reputation with front office executives blowing many top notch executives out of town like Larry Lucchino, Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer, Ben Cherrington and future 1st ballot Hall of Fame executive Dave Dombrowski..
Perhaps, it is Red Sox Pres Sam Kennedy and Owner John Henry who have the problems not the plethora of high quality Front Office Executives that they have burned and driven out of town?! How long before they burn up Chaim Bloom and he bails on the toxic ownership and toxic chain of command in the Red Sox Front office?!
Nice Red Sox trick every 4-5 after winning to TANK ON PURPOSE AND PILE UP ON DRAFT PICKS……
MLB should put a stop to the “tank on purpose” Red Sox business plan…
Perhaps, Dombrowski and these other Execs refused to “tank on purpose” as part of the Red Sox business plan?!
SportsFan0000
After every 4-5 year winning run they do the “Red Sox Tank”….
Monkey’s Uncle
Dave Dombrowski? Aggressive at the trade deadline? Surely you jest!
In all seriousness though, the Phillies need to be careful here. Like others have pointed out already, this team is not in a situation where they are a player away from World Series contention, and their farm system isn’t the best either. They need to be smart… maybe a similar approach to what the Mariners are supposedly looking to do by acquiring younger players that they can control beyond this year instead of rentals. I’m by no means an expert on the Phillies but it seems to me that they don’t have a great overall margin for error right now.
Tom
Actually, the Phillies have very little reason to be gun-shy. They have a top-heavy roster this is playing mediocre baseball, and a terrible farm system. They might have 1 or 2 pieces that could develop into something but not much else. They’d be smart to use the chips they have to improve their team this season. While theoretically, they’re not “one player away”…they might be; if they get to the post-season there’s a chance that their top-heavy (Harper, Realmuto, Wheeler, Noal, et al) roster gets hot and could make some noise.
I’d argue there’s just as much chance the Phillies go all-in and win the World Series this year than there is that anyone in their minor league systems blossoms into an elite or even above-average MLB player.
SportsFan0000
The Phillies problem was that they started their rebuild 2-3 years too late after all their veteran, high priced players were already in serious decline with little or no trade value.. And, then the Phillies hired the wrong Front Office and ended their rebuild at least 2 years and 2 MLB drafts too early…
VonPurpleHayes
Before losing 2 to the Yankees, the Phillies were went on a nice stretch winning 10 of 14, winning 4 series in a row. Including series against the Padres and Red Sox. This was the hottest they’ve been all year and not coincidentally, it was one of the few times they’ve healthy, but I’m still not convinced. Right after all that momentum they lose 3 games in a row and looked awful in all 3. Even last night’s win was not impressive. There’s no doubt the only reason they’re still alive is because of injuries and lackluster play by division rivals. The bullpen is a huge demoralizing problem. It impacts the whole team. While the Phillies have other holes, there’s no doubt in my mind they’d be in first with a solid pen, but that’s a huge if. I don’t think Kimbrel is a realistic get, and I also don’t think he’ll be able to maintain his dominance, as he’s no spring chicken. I really don’t know how to fix this team, and regressions from Nola, Eflin, Bohm and Neris are not promising. I think they can’t rebuild. They have too much talent to do that, but they have to fix their pitching, and that’s no easy task.
Monkey’s Uncle
I always enjoy your posts Von, you have a very thorough and realistic outlook on both your teams and others.
Samuel
@ VonPurpleHayes;
Dombrowski is on the clock. He made some good moves, but it’s all about pitching depth. I don’t know what he can do at this time as he’s been left a horrible situation – up against the cap and few trade assets.
I watch a lot of games on MLB Network. It’s not only the Phillies that look bad even when they win – that applies to every single team in the NL East. Because the national baseball media is based in the industrial NE, all their teams for over 100 years have gotten undeserved pub and have had excuses made for them
With the improved play of the Detroit Tigers, the AL Central is no longer the worst division in MLB. The NE East is. As Royals GM Dayton Moore says – all teams in MLB have weaknesses. In reality, the 5 teams in the NL East have so many weaknesses that one would have to write a short book to detail them.
It appears that everything will boil down to September when divisional teams play one another. Only the division winner will go to the playoffs, and I can’t see that team winning their first series – the Giants, Dodgers, Padres, Brewers and possibly even the Reds appear to all have better teams in the NL than anyone in the NL East. As for 2022, I’d expect the NL East to be even weaker in relation to the other divisions. It may well be that the Marlins have the best intermediate-term future.
Tom
Dombrowski is in no way “on the clock.” He didn’t even want the job, but Middleton guaranteed him $20M to run the team while he waits on MLB expansion. He’s already a HOF executive, and he’ll only make decisions that he believes are the correct ones, not ones that will “save his job.”
Samuel
@ Tom;
I understand that Mr. Middleton recruited him in. Tell that to the Joel Peterson kid above.
In no way am I inferring that Mr. Dombrowski’s job is at stake. Please don’t put words in my mouth and then condemn me for (not) saying them.
The NL East is a joke this year (probably will be in 2022 as well). Phillies players are going full out. They know the roster needs help. The manager and his staff are totally professional. They know the roster needs help. Everyone involved has done what they can do to win a crummy division. They need some help and the trade deadline is the time to get it.
So yes, Mr. Dombrowski is “on the clock”. The ball is in his (and his staffs) court. Everyone in the organization, Phillie fans, and people that follow MLB are waiting to see what moves the Phillies FO makes in the next week. If no moves are made it would be a shock to everyone.
Hudson6
You would have implied Samuel. Tom is the one who inferred.
Tom
My apologies, Samuel. I read your comment in a different way than you intended.
SportsFan0000
Tired of the Boston and NY Sports Media giving Future 1st Ballot Hall of Fame Executive Dave Dombrowski a “bad rap”….
Expos: Dombrowski built one of the best farms systems in MLB with many future Hall of Famers and then left to build the Expansion Marlins from scratch. Dombrowksi’s Expos core players had the best record in baseball and was World Series bound when the Strike shut down the game after he had left for the Marlins.
Marlins: Expansion team Dombrowski built by Draft, International signings, trades and some free agents into World Series Champions in record time.
Blockbuster/Waste Management/Marlins Owner Wayne H, ordered Dombrowski to trade everyone after the WS Championship so he could sell the team for maximum profits.
The players Dombrowski traded for became the core of the 2nd Marlins World Series Championship that they won after Dombrowski left to take over a 119 loss Tigers team that had been in the basement for 15 years.
Tigers:: Built a perennial last place ballclub into a 10 year run including 2 AL Pennants and World Series appearances and 5 Division Titles/.
Red Sox Built a tanking team into multiple Division titles and a World Series Championship…
So, Red Sox Media and fans, cut out the crying and waterworks about Dave Dombrowski. Maybe point your cannons at Sam Kennedy and John Henry for the constant turmoil and turnover in the Red Sox Front Offices?!
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Lefty_Orioles_Fan
I am telling you, DD is on the phone tonight with Elias after the game and I can hear him saying
Mike Baby who do you want for the Dark Knight?
I want him to be my closer!
VonPurpleHayes
No one is giving up anything for Matt Harvey. Not sure if you’re joking or not, but Harvey is toast, and the Phillies have seen enough of him to know that.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Why would I be joking?
Matt Harvey is healthy and can throw almost a 100 miles an hour
If he focused for one inning, I think he could be devastating to the opposition
Tom
Who cares if he can throw 100MPH if he’s a terrible pitcher? It’s not an aberration…he’s been terrible for years.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
You don’t know what is good, Tom
VonPurpleHayes
The Phillies already have hard throwers who can’t focus and they stink up the Pen. They are not touching Harvey, nor is anyone outside of Baltimore.
Oldschoolandthemets1980
The Dark knight unfortunately is no more.Relief for one inning maybe but definitely not as A closer. He still gets jobs based on the past and his name not for the performance. But I always was curious to see if Tampa ever got there hands on him what could be left lol.
54scooterb
Kris Bryant – Joey Gallo – Bryce Harper on the same team, could the Phillies pull it off?
Samuel
Can they pitch out of the bullpen?
azcubsfan
No. They don’t have the pieces to get Bryant.
msqboxer
Cub fans think Bryant’s trade value will rebuild their farm system. The truth his value is probably no more than Manny Machado’s 2018 value. The Dodgers gave up their #7 prospect and 4 others not ranked above #30…the Phillies can get him if they start with Erik Miller…
LarryBiitnersGhost
No we don’t. We know his value – or lack thereof. Not to say he’s some scrap heap bum that can picked off the DFA pile – he should still net a tidy return – but most Cubs fans know with his history of injuries, streakiness, and this being his FA year his value is far less than what it once was. He’s worth at least a top 30-50 prospect or two. No one is going to give up a top 10 for him unless they are at the deadline and a starting OF or 3b has a season-ending injury. If you feel this year is your chance and you could use him (especially out of desperation), you’ll pay up.
SportsFan0000
Bryant is hurt a lot and his contract is expiring. Not a good fit for Phillies who want players with multiple years of team control
chrismilwaukee
There are plenty of realistic Cubs fans. The funny thing to me is fans of other teams pretending that he has no value.
driftcat28 2
Wouldnt be shocked to see Dom move Bohm for win now pieces
SportsFan0000
What about Bohm for Jeimer Candelario?
Candelario plays 3rd and 1st.and is a switch hitter..
mpm366
Trade Harper. Eat part of the contract. Get a truck load of prospects and move on. He’s a curse to the team he is on. See what happened in DC when he left.
VonPurpleHayes
Lol. Awful take. Harper has been one of the few bright spots on a terrible team.
mpm366
Exactly that’s why you trade him now and get some parts for the future. Also get rid of that ridiculous contract.
bucketbrew35
His contact in no way ridiculous.
Oldschoolandthemets1980
Hate to say it only cause I’m a dirty hard Mets fan,but I’d take Harpers contract and performance over Lindors,or that horrendous Heyward contract the cubs are stuck with,or Chris Davis and the Orioles lol.
old man hub
Tampa has 4 CFs (Kiermaier, Margot, Arozarena and Phillips) with Josh Lowe and Vidal Brujan looking like major leaguers in wait a Durham and a bullpen that will need to create space as injured player start coming back.
Inside Out
Oh yes the abuser Odubel has made a “valiant” return. What are you talking about? What is so valiant about a woman beater coming back after suspension? You should be fired just for writing that line
bigj
Love how Phillies fans think they are going to get Bryant or Kimbrel or any other top trade piece when they have no farm system nor top prospects!! Klentak screwed that team over the past few years with his horrible drafting of players. The Giants, Dodgers, A’s, ChiSox, Padres and Rays will be big players next week. They all have multiple top 100 prospects.
VonPurpleHayes
I don’t think any Phillies fan genuinely thinks the team will be landing a top target. Hope and think are very different things. I can’t see how Dom fixes this team this year.
bigj
Go on Facebooks WIP page. They think they are going to get every top piece plus think every player wants to come to Philly. It cracks me up!!
VonPurpleHayes
WIP is terrible. I avoid it at all costs.
edcl54
By the time Dombrowski acts the season will be over
Doxie
No that’s AA the genius of Atlanta, just ask him.
TmanTheGoat
Cause he did nothing in 19, right? AA haters are something else.
SportsFan0000
Dombrowski is a great poker player.
Some of his deals went down in the last 15 minutes before the trade deadline…
Doxie
Anyone notice how Harper is stealing bases now ?
DonOsbourne
Obviously the Phillies are going to be aggressive. You don’t hire DD to oversee a rebuild. He is a salesman not a talent evaluator. The Phillies’ farm system won’t hold him back. He’ll offer someone 3 paperclips, a broken laser printer, and a shiny red stapler for their closer and get it. He’s been doing it for years.
PhilsPhan221
Yes, TC, domestic abuse ACCUSATIONS survivor Odubel Herrera has made a valiant return to hitting a ball instead of his partner. We should cheer for his success as that horrible Phillies front office tried to cut him for the simple act of CHOKING HIS GIRLFRIEND.
WTF, man…
Metsin777
The Phillies have the best hitting in the division. The bullpen is horrible and the rotation needs 2 mid level starters. Phillies should try and get a package deal from the Twins of Berrios+Rogers and take on Colombe’s contract. Then trade with the Pirates for Anderson+Rodriguez, they would pass the Mets easily
SoCalBrave
Even without Acuña, I think the Braves are as good if not better offensively than the Phillies.
TmanTheGoat
Phillies offense is only better than the marlins, so that’s just false
chace alexander
Perhaps a Cubs deal will bring Kimbrel and one of their big 3 in
hopper15
Someone is getting Bryson Stott.
htbnm57
I think we can safely say the Velasquez experiment was a failure 4 years ago . Because we have no farm system we are forced to keep going to retread failures and have no capital to get anyone better.
VonPurpleHayes
An aggressive GM willing to buy, and the Phillies go into a huge slump. This team has no life. I don’t see them competing. They had every opportunity and they dropped the ball…sometimes literally.
htbnm57
They don’t have anything of value to trade
VonPurpleHayes
Wheeler, Segura, Harper, Realmuto, Hoskins, Bohm, Nola…these will all merit some kind of valuable return, but that would mean blowing the team up for the 2nd time in 10 years. There’s really no hope for the immediate future. They just can’t get it going on a consistent basis.
htbnm57
I bet Dombrowski is regretting his decision to take over this hot mess.
kreckert
This Phillies group is never making the playoffs.
Blow it up.
DonB34
Outside the box thinking….. wouldn’t mind seeing them flip Didi Gregorius to another contender in some sort of 3-team trade, or to a contender with a surplus of pitching. Honestly Torreyes, Maton, Luke Williams have done a decent job at shortstop. Didi is making errors, hitting like .183 since coming back from the injury. Plus OPS of .662 on the year. Not good. He could fill a need for another team but he isn’t looking like the best option for the Phillies anymore.
stymeedone
What contender in need of a SS are.you going to convince that Didi is the answer, and what prospect are you adding to rid yourself of his contract?
Samuel
Yankees
DonB34
I was thinking Yankees for one. They don’t like Gleyber and they have history with Didi.
Benjamin101677
My opinion the Phillies messed up really over paying for Bryce Harper with not a lot around him.
They should have taken that money and got 2 – e star type players. I don’t think the Phillies will be a winning franchise for a while. They don’t have the pieces to compete with what Florida will be getting better with the long term pieces the Braves have and the now deep pockets of the Mets
VonPurpleHayes
It’s not signing Harper prevented other moves. They signed Wheeler and Realmuto after Harper, and it sounds like they want to spend again.
Kiko Garcia
It feels like all 4 Philly teams are suffering,not from talent, but mix..bad mix all around
htbnm57
Another stellar effort tonight…
NatsPhils
Would hate to see them give up the few prospects they have for a small chance to win the division. Mets will be making moves also.
revolver
Cubs are already well on their way to rebuilding their farm.
sergefunction
One way or the other, DD will get ’em there or on the brink of “there” by denuding what little Phillie prospect capital exists. He knows how. Give him another year or so.
How can you go as much as you did on Bryce Harper and soon thereafter become sellers? Not logical.
Boston has since recovered nicely from the aftermath of DD’s efforts. Detroit was in smoldering ruins (a status not unknown to that populace) for years and only recently have come up for air. Philly’s turn.
tribepride17
Bryan Shaw and Cesar Hernandez for Moniak.
dope092316
Phillies are a joke
VonPurpleHayes
Think of how many come-from-behind wins this team has. Not many. When they’re down 3 runs, it feels insurmountable. They play for a big inning early on in the game, and then hope the bullpen can hold it, and it often does not. It’s a real tough team to watch. While I’m hoping for some nice additions at the deadline, I just don’t see it. This team is extremely problematic, and they might be better off just blowing it all up.
jsaldi
I bet the Orioles get some calls on Matt Harvey as crazy as that sounds. Teams are desperate for any starting pitching
oneiblnd
Here is where dombroski throws away any kind of farm system the Phil’s have. And then he will jump off to another high paying job.
jim stem
But who go the Phils move? I don’t see them moving Bohm, he’s the future there for them.
I think Cabrera from Arizona or, if they have anything the Royals like, Holland and WhitMer fill two big gaps. But they need at least a second dependable bullpen arm in addition to Holland. Pineda, Polanco and Duffey from the Twins would be good for them, too.
jimknows
Dumbass will trade his entire farm system for as empty six pack of PBR. He should never be near a team.
Bob333
This team needs to sell they have no LEADERS on the club it is just a bad mix and they need a MAJOR shake up.Even if theymake a trade or two they will still be a 500 club.Girardi is a bad manager and has been exposed. The old saying YOU Can’t Polish A TERD.
htbnm57
Oops DD got hosed
htbnm57
DD clearly waited too long to get pitching help, this team is spiraling downward.