The Padres, by most measures, are a solid offensive club. San Diego ranks tenth among MLB teams in total runs scored (428) and in wRC+ (101). They’re 13th in team batting average, eighth in team on-base percentage and 13th in slugging percentage. Throw out the pitching staff to focus only on position players, and they jump to 11th in average, sixth in OBP, 11th in slugging and sixth in wRC+. There’s room for improvement, but the lineup isn’t some kind of fatal flaw for this club.
Despite a mostly solid offense, however, general manager A.J. Preller suggested he’ll be looking for areas to bolster the lineup in the coming weeks (link via AJ Cassavell of MLB.com). Preller, while noting that some players on his club have enjoyed “real good performances” so far in 2021, noted that the group as a whole has yet to “click” in the same manner it did in 2020. “Those will be the things we’ll be talking about over the next couple weeks,” Preller told the Padres beat this weekend.
It’s certainly not an impassioned declaration that major changes are coming, but it’s notable this time of year when any top decision-maker publicly cites potential areas of improvement. Preller didn’t list a specific position of focus, but looking up and down the lineup, there are a few spots that are obviously of greater need than others.
Chief among them is at first base, where Eric Hosmer is again in the midst of an underwhelming showing at the plate. The 31-year-old is hitting .266/.323/.375, which isn’t egregiously poor but is still below league average (95 wRC+). In right field, Wil Myers is hitting .253/.330/.428, which is solidly above-average, but his bat faded after a monster showing during the season’s first month.
Meanwhile, Austin Nola has missed most of the season on the injured list, which has contributed to the Padres having one of baseball’s least-productive catching units in the game. The bench is also thin. Offseason multi-year deals for Ha-Seong Kim and Jurickson Profar have yet to pay dividends, and the Friars continue to dedicate a roster spot to the out-of-options Jorge Mateo despite the fact that he’s only tallied 88 plate appearances in 52 games (with a .195/.241/.280 batting line). Nola recently embarked on a rehab assignment, so the Padres may have some hope for reinforcements behind the plate sooner than later.
The rest of the Padres’ lineup has been excellent. Tommy Pham has shaken off a slow start and rebounded with a .301/.402/.526 showing in his past couple hundred plate appearances. Trent Grisham has continued his 2020 breakout, as has Jake Cronenworth. Manny Machado is hitting .267/.345/.479 with 15 home runs, and Fernando Tatis Jr. has clubbed 28 home runs while slashing .286/.364/.686. None are going to be displaced by a trade acquisition, barring some sort of injury.
It’s worth noting that Myers has been swinging a better bat over the past couple weeks as well, but inconsistent production has been a recurring theme throughout the life of his contract extension in San Diego. A player capable of splitting time between the outfield corners and first base would make plenty of sense for San Diego, as would a utility option that could at least be expected to provide something resembling average production.
This morning, Dennis Lin of The Athletic once again links the Padres to Rangers slugger Joey Gallo, noting that Gallo’s ability to play first base is part of his appeal for San Diego. The Rangers’ asking price on Gallo, however, is characterized as “daunting” and can only have increased after Gallo has become the poster boy for offense in the post-Spider Tack crackdown; since June 4, Gallo is hitting .308/.479/.838 with 15 long balls in 121 plate appearances.
Gallo surely isn’t the only potential trade target who could contribute at first base and in the outfield corners, of course. The Cubs are widely expected to shop Kris Bryant now that they’ve shifted to a deadline seller, and Baltimore’s Trey Mancini has been a possible trade candidate all season. The Marlins’ Adam Duvall is primarily an outfielder but has a few hundred innings of first base experience.
The list of potential offensive needs on its own would position the Padres as a potential feature team at this year’s deadline, but that’s only the beginning of their needs. Starting pitching was expected to be a strength for this club, but Padres starters are a more middle-of-the-pack unit than the dominant one expected after a series of flashy offseason pickups.
Blake Snell hasn’t pitched up to expectations, and Joe Musgrove has tailed off a bit after a dominant start. Yu Darvish is skipping a well-deserved All-Star nod to nurse a back injury that recently landed him on the injured list. Young Ryan Weathers just departed the team’s first-half finale with a leg/foot injury. Adrian Morejon had Tommy John surgery earlier in the year. And as Lin points out, top prospect MacKenzie Gore is back at the team’s Spring Training complex for further work on his mechanics after a rough start to the season in Triple-A.
While Weathers hasn’t technically been placed on the IL yet, the only healthy starters on the Padres’ roster at the moment are Musgrove, Chris Paddack and the recently promoted Reiss Knehr. Considering the veritable embarrassment of riches with which the Padres entered the season, from a rotation standpoint, it’s a bit remarkable to suggest they’ll be in the market for more starters at the deadline — but that indeed appears to be the case.
Preller indicated to Lin and others that the first steps in patching the rotation would be internal promotions (e.g. Knehr), but the GM also acknowledged that he and his staff will “keep talking to clubs” to see what’s out there in terms of upgrades. There’s no indication that payroll or the luxury tax would be any sort of issue, but it’s at least worth noting that after so many gaudy acquisitions in recent years, the Friars are sitting about $6MM shy of the $210MM threshold.
A year ago, the Padres were baseball’s most active deadline team, striking deals for Mike Clevinger, Austin Nola, Austin Adams, Mitch Moreland and Jason Castro. Preller followed that up with a trade-happy offseason as well, scooping up Darvish, Snell and Musgrove in an effort to create a dominant rotation that could pair with a deep lineup.
Given all that activity, it probably wouldn’t be a surprise to see yet another whirlwind trade season from Preller even with a healthy rotation and a fully operational lineup. However, the broad slate of setbacks on the starting staff and some uneven performances at first base, in right field and off the bench leave the Padres with a wide variety of paths to improve this club. And history tells us that Preller isn’t likely to sit back and hope his organizational depth will save the day.
1B/OF? Garrett Cooper or Jesus Aguilar at your service.
are they much better than Myers and Hosmer?
Aguilar is. He’s a professional hitter but can only play 1B, and I really doubt Hosmer’s gonna be forced to take time off.
Hosmer is killing SD both offensively and defensively. Cooper would be a good pickup because the Padres could sit Hosmer versus lefties, which would be a start to phasing him out as a starter. That contract t. Yikes.
wait, has he actually not played any OF? I swear he did at least in the past, though BBREF seems to disagree.
Aguilar has played 452 games at 1B, 11 at 3B, and been a DH 50 times. He hasn’t played the OF in MLB.
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My grandmother is better than Myers and Hosmer and she has been dead for a decade
Removepitcherwins:
Wil Myers had a .959 OPS last season and will more than likely be around .850 by the time 2021 concludes.
I’d love to meet your Grandmother!
LOL
Hey Padres fans what would guys say to a trade Aaron judge for M. Gore CJ Abrams and Luis Campusano?
Nope. Soz. Gtfo. Kthxbai.
Thanks for the laugh!
I would counter with Will Myers for Jasson Dominguez, Clarke Schmidt and Deivi Garcia. Actually that is not enough!
LOL! No chance,
Wheeler, Realmuto, Hoskins, BMiller – would be impactful upgrades for the Padres
well…
With the Mets being so underwhelming, the Phils will be looking to add not subtract. Craig Kimbrel and Jon Gray would make a ton of sense.
That 13-game stretch where the Mets play only the Dodgers and Giants could be a crusher.
The Phillies don’t have the payroll to add talent. They are 3-4mil under the luxury tax and Middleton already said he isn’t going over the tax.
well they’re not selling at this point, and dont underestimate DD’s ability to make a move.
Mets are also near the threshold. Both teams need to add and both with find a way to do it. Assuming neither gets a wildcard, it is two teams vying for one spot.
Middleton never said he wouldn’t go over the tax threshold. There are players who could be traded to create a little more space. Middleton will allow it for the right player. The Phils have a lot coming off the books next year so the penalty for going 10M over for 3 months would be minimal
I’d say that stretch could really negatively impact 1 of those 3 teams. I just hope it’s Dodgers or Giants (or both).
Desperate much?
Yea the Phillies could really pounce and overtake the Mets. But is it worth it to compromise the future in order to win a division with 88 wins and then slink back into mediocrity?
Phillies don’t need anyone expensive prospect wise or reliever wise. A back end starter rental and a couple relievers that are solid. Plenty of those available that cost well under 3 million. Since they can’t find answers via free agency maybe get a pre arb guy.
When was the last time the Phils finished OVER .500? Granted, all the offense seems to be there, but they need pitching upgrades everywhere.
Nola isn’t the pitcher he was, Wheeler has been great, but the rest of the staff fails to win. That compounds the futility of the bullpen. Phils need at least 4 arms, maybe even five if they seriously want to contend on the second half. If not, expect to see a plethora of 10-8 games.
Yea I could see that. I don’t really see them as a very good team but they’re good enough that with a hot second half and some of the moves you suggest they could maybe take a weak division. If the Mets go cold it’s basically theirs for the taking.
Let’s just start combining teams!
The Cubs know their system well after the Darvish deal. I could see a Kimbrel deal working out here… However, you’d hope the Cubs would get a return more promising than a bunch of teenagers.
Preller: “Welp, that didn’t work, lemme throw some more money/prospects at it and see if that does it”
53-40 with more days on the IL than any other team.
And 6 games out in the Division……
How many tries does Preller get at this? You gotta tip your hat to Padres ownership, they clearly want to win, but Preller has this team right at the tax and needing more???
The Padres still cannot develop young players, Until they fix this all the talent in the world doesn’t matter
Grisham, and Tatis aren’t young? The teams not really at the tax though. Its inflated by Tatis’s contract If they didnt offer it. They would be under by 32 million.
The giants have played 4 less games then the Padres. Thats hard. The Padres depth has been devastated by injuries.
The NL west is easily the most difficult division in the game.
I think he’s referring to talent coming up through the farm system.
Well they did offer it, and he did sign it. So I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
Grisham was a Brewers prospect and Tatis is not from this world. I doubt anything Padres scouts or coaches told him at A ball enhanced his abilities. He is the type of talent you can’t shape with coaching.
Just look at the Padres catcher situation, they had Hedges, Mejia and now Campusano all hyped to be legit big league talents. Yet here they are hoping Victor Caratini doesn’t get hurt because he is world’s better than anything else they have. Think about that.
Padres didn’t develop Grisham. Brewers did.
Preller can only control his team.
Blaming him for the Giants being for real is pretty dumb.Plus it’s barely July.
The Padres have more catching depth than just about anyone.
I don’t know how Preller is gonna find upgrades for Myers and/or Hosmer because nobody is gonna take on those contracts in a trade, and so do you bench or platoon them? I think they’re stuck with both for the duration. When you start looking at the production CLE and NYY have gotten out of the 1B and some of the OF positions this year, Myers and Hosmer start looking real good.
Who hangs up first – Gary sanchez, Andujar, German/Montgomery for Gore?
Easily – The Padres
Not so sure about that. Gore might be entering bust territory. Only the Padres know for sure if he’s making any progress since he’s not pitching minor league games, but if he’s offered for that return I think the Yankees conclude he’s not, and say no. Absolute worst possible time to trade him.
Bust? Gore is 22. That trade would make no sense for the Padres. Teams aren’t sitting around looking to relieve the Yankees of their, um, busts.
How can you call a player a bust before they even make their major league debut? Triple-A numbers may be underwhelming, but at least give the kid a chance to break rookie status before we start throwing around “bust”.
Gore is 22, and has dealt with pandemic shut down and blister issue, so putting him in bust territory is premature. He’s below expectations sure, but being ranking in top 10 in the Pipeline for 2 years will do that to most guys.
Fans need to be patient with prospects they haven’t seen play. People were recently calling Keibert Ruiz a bust. Now it appears he might be the Dodgers preferred catcher for 2022.
There is no real value in the Yankee package. Those players are a dime a dozen.
Padres would have to move a bunch of guys to create room for four guys who might not be upgrades. If the Pads were to deal Gore, they would get much better offers. You don’t just keep adding mediocre players to the package and hope the rival GM says yes.
Lmao 20 subpar innings at AAA and someone is saying he might be a bust. The comments section is outdoing itself today
Why not? People are proclaiming a “future ace” in the majors based only on his lower minor league numbers. How is that any different?
The people making Gore predictions on both ends have never seen him play. And when a player is still developing in the minors, it’s not just about the numbers on the field. Gore is liked by scouting professionals across baseball for reasons we haven’t seen.
The prospect is a bust. The player is a bum. The injuries are cuz players are “soft”. My teams manager is the worst in history…. It’s all some fans know
How do you call a top
Prospect a bust before he throws his first major league inning?
They’ve said many times they won’t bring him up till he will be up to stay…they’re just taking their time and working out some mechanics.
They hang up at the same time.
Preller never hangs up, he live-streams relentlessly
Both say no. The Padres have a catcher. Andujar doesn;t make us better at first or RF,
Padres have a catcher? That would be 1st because Preller regime is all about .200 hitting catchers
Padres aren’t trading savior of baseball MacKenzie Gore for anything.
I would be calling the Braves about Freddie Freeman everyday until the deadline and then his agent everyday this winter.
Freeman has become Mr. Brave. I’d be shocked if they dealt him.
They’d be silly if they didn’t and didn’t have a good idea if they could afford him without a “hometown discount” (despite him being from CA) — and the deals are there. ATL has massive holes in lower levels and SD continues to be loaded. Also, bullpen continues to be a problem – and they are a ‘pen factory – over the long term. Without a mid-order bat at the Deadline, ATL has very little chance at making the playoffs. Rip the band-aid off for a brighter future.
Ya. I’m not saying it’s the right move to keep him. But, I don’t think they will deal him. I can see them actually spending money to keep him around.
Morton will be the main Brave dealt. He makes sense for any of the three NL West contenders and a bunch of others. Even as a rental, the return should be excellent because the demand will be high for a guy who has post-season success as both a starter and reliever.
I wouldn’t mind seeing him back in an Astros uni
I agree that Morton SHOULD be the main, or one of the main, Braves dealt. But I thought he made it very clear when he was a free agent last offseason that he only wanted to play close to his home in Florida. Would he accept a trade to a West Coast team, even if it gave him a shot at a ring? I’m legitimately asking, not saying he won’t.
Exactly. They deal him and their attendance dries up overnight. Acuña won’t be back until next June or so. The Braves can’t afford to have fans think they’re going through another Coppy teardown.
Even playing for the Braves, Morton is away from his Florida home most of the time. Being at the end of his Braves deal, it’s hard to imagine he won’t accept a trade If this is it. Go out on a possible high note. Boston, Toronto, and the top four teams in the AL West might have an interest as well.
You can bet AA has already had preliminary conversations with a bunch of teams since Acuna went down. Morton’s post-season pedigree makes him a valuable asset. As a Dodger fan, I would hate to not get him and have him land in SD or SF. Padres and Giants fans should feel the same way about the Dodgers.
@Monkey- No NTC with Morton. He’d have to retire, which is in the realm of possibility?
This is a team that let both Glavine and Maddox walk. They’ll let Freeman go too.
Freeman is one of the few guys in this generation that I can see playing for the same team his whole career.
That would shoot the Padres miles into the lux tax with no relief in sight, and would mean they’re paying their first basemen something like $50m. No way.
At first glance sure, but Hosmer’s deal was front-loaded meaning they wouldn’t have as much trouble moving his contract if they were looking to upgrade the position. Of course, they’d have to eat or add a sweetener, but it’s not the albatross I thought it was at first.
According to Spotrac he’s making $20 million next season and then $13 million in the next three years after that. Significant but not impossible.
What would a team be willing to pay him though? 5 million a year for the next four? So the Padres either send Campusano or 40 million and maybe a team is somehow ok with that? Tucapita Marcano and 40 million?
Unfortunately it’s not as simple as saying, “Hey, they’re only a game under .500, they should be buyers.” Not with the long term injuries and Ozuna’s status up in the air indefinitely. I say retool by trading off the walk year vets, and if anyone is even slightly open to taking Smyly, he’s yours for nothing. Braves can trade Freeman now for future parts and maybe one major leaguer, and if they want him back they can sign him this winter.
How many more years are they on the hook for Hosmer? They have the farm to get a big name rental like Bryant. It amazes the amount of money they have locked up in long term deals.
2025…yikes.
But his contract was front loaded, they only owe him like 11-13m a season here on out
Hos is a sound defensive 1B, and his offense is average. They’d have to get an all-star caliber player to move on from him. And available high-level 1B are thin right now – he’s a Padre for at least 2 more years
Brewer88, I have watched the Padres quite often and Hosmer’s defense has taken a major dip. His offense has also taken a dive since his hot start over the season’s first 16 games. Generally speaking, Padres fans seem to think he is hurting the team.
@ Cey. I can’t speak for the sentiments of Padre fans like you can, but from a GM standpoint, I would think it’s no easy task to replace a lifetime 277 hitter who ranks as top 10 1B yearly in most stats, with what’s available on the market now. His OPS is down this year from his career average, but he’s fine in most other stats.
They overpaid (whatever that means) for him but that’s not the issue now, it’s how do they improve at that position? They won’t move Hosmer, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they make a move to acquire Gallo, spelling Hosmer at first at times. Myers is starting to barrel the ball well in last 3 weeks and Pham has been excellent, and both don’t have contracts that are conducive to a trade..
As for channeling Padre fans, I know many and they talk about Hosmer as being a team leader in the clubhouse. Maybe there’s value there with a young team, I don’t know.
Hard to say since fans aren’t in the clubhouse. Also, the team isn’t all that young. On the current roster, the only players younger than 25 are Tatis, Grisham, and Weathers. Even Cronenworth is already 27.
Back to Hosmer, his OPS+ numbers in four seasons as a Padre are 100, 94, 132 (short season) and 97. His WAR over 439 games is 1.6 while batting a fairly light .263. Overall for those four years, that puts him below Brandon Belt, who tends to get characterized as being less-than-adequate at 1B.
A problem for the Padres is the Dodgers will be adding Seager, who is better than anyone they can acquire at the deadline. Bellinger figures to round into form, Betts seems to be. How do the Padres counteract that?
Hosmer is possibly the most replaceable starting first baseman in the league. At least on a winning team. Leadership smeadership. Let him coach if that’s all he brings.
His defense is terrible. His offense is regularly below average. You don’t know what you are talking about.
The only above average offensive season Hosmer has had in SD was the shortened 2020 season. He’s bad and if the padres decide to address 1b, they shouldn’t have a hard time finding an upgrade.
Only Preller signs a 144 mil Hosmer who has done little now wants to replace him
And gets an extension to play GM for 3 more years.
That was Ron Fowler.
I never said Hosmer was better than Belt. That’s about the right placement for him – Brandon Belt. Replacing him and his contract with what’s available on the market is the question, and I don’t see many viable options
@ Cey. How do they counteract Seager? Is Lux/Taylor THAT bad? The Dodgers need to get healthy if they’re going to overtake the Giants and that need is even greater for the Padres with 329 pitchers on the IL. Both the Dodgers and Padres share the same priority needs, RP and maybe SP – they will be bidding against each other
But what about next year? It’s not like Hosmer will be good over the next 4 years. I guess you can eat $26 mil for the final two years. He needs replaced rather than a 3 month rental.
Someone at a backyard barbecue tossed out the idea that if Hosmer doesn’t get it together and Cronenworth develops 20-25/HR/Yr power (maybe he has already) then he could replace Hos at 1B in the short- or long-term, with Abrams slotting into 2B
But might be moot point as it seems the Pads are working on Bryant or Gallo, and will then have more options at 1B/OF. Hate to think what they might have to give up though, and pitching depth is what they need more…
Padre owners are stuck with Preller they buy his BS while he mucks up
He’s cheap what Padre owners like but they pay anyway watching him waste $ on players
Gandhi aka Hosmer is such a leader it’s forefront of what’s important to padre fan
Won’t move him because he’s not movable
Sound defensive 1B? What game are you watching bruh?
Yes. Those big contracts are always given the go ahead only with owners approval and the Hosmer contract was one of those Fowler ideas to put some spark in a boring team. Splashy move but I’m sure no analytics expert would ever have approved that one. But with Machado and Tatis you would hope a left handed bat would be perfect. Not so with Hosmer. And San Diego struggles continue and long suffering fans continue to, well, suffer.
“ @ Cey. How do they counteract Seager? Is Lux/Taylor THAT bad? ”
It’s not about them. They’ll both be starting elsewhere. It will move Pujols back to the bench. It’s Seager for Albert. That’s the improvement
Nola has been playing some 1B during his rehab, my guess is that they hope his bat will play at C/1B regularly and maybe they could add a catcher instead of 1B and use Nola as platoon
@ Padres458 “His defense is terrible”. LMAO.
He’s a 4 time GG.
@RonCeyHeyKid- by getting healthy ourselves. Need Nola back, Darvish ok physically, Snell to settle down, Lamet to be ready, fair Weathers to return, maybe a better bench and/or bullpen piece added, etc. When the team is healthy, Hos and Myers bat 6 & 7, maybe even 7 & 8 if Nola is hot. Enjoy the ASG if you dabble in the exhibitions! Go NL!
Brewers: Judging a player by somewhat arbitrary awards accumulated years ago. I gotta laugh at the naïveté of that. He’s not a good defender anymore. Players age, ya know?
He’s not old, and very good defensively. Stats back my claim, unfortunate for ya.
His contract is hurting the team aslo.
And according to some less cerebral members of the Padres’ fanbase Manny Machado absolutely wouldn’t have signed with the Padres if they hadn’t signed Hosmer first. Notwithstanding the fact that Manny’s agent said at the start of his free agent offseason that they wouldn’t even consider offers for less than $300m guaranteed and the Padres were the only ones who offered him that.
@ Remove, not sure what you’re point is. Are you saying Manny is not worth his contract? Or that he would have signed despite Hosmer? Or that he didn’t sign because of the Padres newborn efforts to build a contender? I haven’t heard about the Hosmer = Manny concept with Padre fans nor their management.
@Brewer88 I am saying that Machado 100% would have signed if they hadn’t signed Hosmer first and that he like many free agents before and after him signed only because of $. It’s no accident that he signed with the only team that offered him what his agent started the offseason saying they would not accept any less than.
Ok, sure
Another big overpay
Come on Zaidi, go get both Bryant & Kimbrel… a ton of money is coming off the books.
Why would the Giants need them? They can merely win with the division deploying misfits and dropouts
Because they’re not going to win the division. They’re going to end up in a winner takes all wild card game vs the Padres with Darvish or Snell on the mound. If they want to beat out the Dodgers — who are about to make a major acquisition like they always do — they need to get on it.
I agree. I have a ton of confidence in Zaidi, but I’m getting a little concerned about the scrapyard approach. Especially for 162 games. Time to pull the trigger on a stud.
To me, Bryant makes the most sense.
I was half-joking. It’s been remarkable watching them win (and dominate) with the present roster. It’s not just the SP pitching surprises, they’re slugging as well. 90 games in, still waiting for other shoe to drop.
Though it sure looks that way right now, it’s not a given that 2 teams will be wildcards from the NL West, given all the games the Dodgers, Giants Pads play against each other in September. Though Acuna’s injury makes that much more possible.
The Giants and Dodgers appear to be in, the Pads need to have a very good next 6 weeks.
The Padres are more in then the Giants. The Padres have played four more games before the break than the Giants.
You’ve still lost 8 more games than SF.
The Giants will have less days off then the Padres down the stretch, that will be huge. Also the Giants will have some bad luck at some point.
Huge ? Really ?
Ignores roster management. Doesn’t 4 more games also equate to the opportunity for 4 more wins ? I appreciate the grind, but that reads like “hope” to me.
Giants have had a lite schedule so far.
They will be playing he Dodgers and Padres a lot in the 2nd half.
Trey Mancini and John Means could help out massively and the Padres won’t have to sell the farm nor break the bank. I’m sure there’s some infield prospects buried deep in the SD prospect rankings that would catapult to top-10 position player prospects on the Orioles.
Jackson Merrill
Can’t trade him until the offseason. And no, they can’t include him as a PTBNL either. Not allowed anymore.
Mancini (controllable through next year) and especially Means (controllable for three more years) would cost a massive return. It would gut their system. Mancini alone is more reasonable.
Mancini really doesn’t have that much value. Terrible defense, Great bat, but the health history is bad.
Padres are one player away from 85% vaccinated. Hosmer isn’t vacinated. It’d be big and bold to move him now with a ton of money to pay the rest of his deal.
Bro. Turn off your television, step out of your home, and join the rest of us in this little place called reality.
Every cent on his contract is guaranteed and the vaccine is available to everyone. If he was gonna get it – he woulda done it by now and doesn’t need others trying to shame and pressure him into doing something he doesn’t deem the right thing to do.
Getting or not getting vaccinated is a personal choice that has nothing to do w u, mlb, or the amount of money a person is owed or due to make. Stop the bullying !
Bullying? The vaccine will be mandatory soon lol.
You, and your ilk, love the word “mandatory” don’t you? Takes the word “choice” out of the equation, just the way you want it all to be, LOL
Yeah, it seems like some of these people have finally stopped pretending to be decent, caring individuals and are now blatantly and unashamedly showing their true colors. It’s truly pretty scary to me how many people in our society feel so entitled to impose their views or beliefs on others, to the point of wanting to inject them with something that they don’t want inside of their bodies. But no, the people advocating freedom of choice are the “crazy ones”… right.
Its no different then any other vaccine.
Thank you Dr. Salk for your uneducated post
Same vaccine for measles?
mumps?
polio?
Syphilis?
Dude, before you post anything else, go look up Tuskegee Syphilis Study on the net & answer your own questions why folks don’t trust the CDC & don’t want the vaccine.
You do realize that the US never infected those men with syphilis right? They didn’t treat infections that the men already had.
No, they just lied to them for 40 years & let many of them die. How can you justify this? No wonder we have people saying “Its no different then any other vaccine”
I am saying the US did not intentionally infect people back then any more than they did this time.
@Padres
It’s very different from most other vaccines. It uses messenger RNA to get your body to produce an immune system response instead of a weaker version of the actual virus.
“Trader Preller” has a bit of a ring to it.
Gore, outside of a half season at A+, has largely been mediocre
LOL
Gore is still just a kid. Check back when he’s 25 or so.
Gore has been pretty good if you balance age vs level. COVID was a set back for him like it was for pretty much all minor leaguers but he’s on a pretty good track, all things considered. Only 22. Folks talking like he’s a disappointment are off-base.
Kris Bryant to SD in a 3 team trade. That also includes Craig Kimbrel going from the cubs to another team. Wil Myers would be involved too. Bryant could seriously help the Padres. For one he can play and is willing to play 5 positions. So he can give Hosmer or Machado a day off. Don’t know who their everyday outfield is though.
Plus he went to SD state and it’s a short drive to Las Vegas.
I know he love Chicago (except maybe the winters)
Why wouldn’t the Padres want Kimbrel?
Because I don’t want Wil Myers on the cubs unless ots both he and KB to San Diego for more. I’m sure the friars wouldn’t mind shedding his contract.
How does Campusano sound?
Good. The problem is the cubs are good at catcher right now.
Padre fans have worst trade proposals trade Campusano dude who stinks for Kimbrel
Kimbrel Makes 16 million and was just as terrible as he is great right now. Campusano is an elite prospect.
Why would Cubs want Myers with his bloated contract next year they obviously are rebuilding
That’s why I originally said a 3 team trade.
Mets need much offense.
Where will it come from ?
At least 2 big bats.
Giants and Dodgers are coming up.
How bout the slew of dudes in their underperforming lineup ?? Law of averages will catch up second 1/2
The Mets are performing, offensively, at their best.
What are Scott and Cohen waiting for?
Alonso’s on pace for 32 homers, McCann 13, lindor 20 and he’s hitting 227, conforto 202 and nimmo is 200 plate appearances behind schedule.
Where u thinking the NYMets or is their another team called the Mets ?
The sky is NOT falling with Gore, he is still 22 with 4 plus pitches. He is merely dealing with nasty blisters this year; all will be well. That being said, I could see the Pads adding a (necessary) starter. Hope Weathers, Snell and Darvish are ok and back soon enough, but we still need yet another starter. I’d love Luis Castillo… but more realistically maybe settle for Jon Gray. Tough year for injuries all around the league…
feels as though gore has been dealing with blisters on his pitching hand since he turned pro. has he tried peeing on the blisters yet?
not sure, I’ll ask
Moises Alou approves
My hunch is Jon Gray to the Phillies. As mediocre as they are, they are not worse than the Mets.
If Pads continue to play 500 as they have the last 8 weeks then I see the Phillies, Reds or Cardinals making some moves to try to capture final WC
my guy the Phillies are playing for the division
methinks Gray’s salery is too much. a Tyler Anderson makes more sense.
Gray makes $7 million for 2021 and it would be for less than half a season. The Mets can be toppled. Gray and Kimbrel should be Phillies’ targets.
Why are you so anti Mets?
Phillies are crap.
He was sent back to the complex. Its pretty bad.
Rockies aren’t trading Gray to Padres
@458 – more one-on-one coaching and focus on mechanics isn’t a bad thing while nursing blisters. @4life – The Rocks are capable of anything right now. I don’t buy the “won’t trade within the division” argument with their organization. We shall see… cheers fellahs!
Morton and Smiley with the Braves are sure to be on the market for a team needing pitching. It will not happen but Swanson needs to go also. Braves don’t trade Freeman, they have no one above single-A to play 1st.
Smyly seems like a Phillies move if ATL would consider eating a touch of the cash. he showed solidly here in a mixed role in 2019.
More quantity over quality for the Padres and the media will love them just for making trades. Last deadline they moved over 10 players and it didn’t do a thing. Maybe if they trade 15 more players they can get to 2nd place.
I agree that Joey Gallo would be a big help to the lineup. Maybe big trade to include a pitcher. Wonder what Texas would want for both. Talking Allard or Gibson along with Gallo. SD has the prospect capital to make this happen.
Would love to see Gallo on the White Sox. Doubt they have the farm system to make it work trade-wise though.
For Gallo and Gibson (maybe even Ian Kennedy), I would think CJ Abrams would be in play.
Definitely not..
“Sir, it would seem the Padres have hung up… I’ll try to redial them for you.”
That’s fine. Texas isn’t giving up two all star for scraps. It’ll take elite prospects to nab both together. One is in the CY race and the other has been arguably the best power hitter in the game since sticky stuff got axed. Pony up or go somewhere else to bargain shop.
I think the Cubs and Padres are a good match for trades. Contreras, Bryant and maybe Davies seem like good fits right now.
They already did Davies thing he got destroyed in postseason
I’m curious if the Cubs could package a number of their free agents to be (Bryant, Rizzo, Kimbrel) AND take Hosmer’s onerous contract to be able to get a premium prospect or two. The Cubs and Pads have matched up a few times before, Bryant and Rizzo fill needs, and San Diego is definitely all-in for this year.
To take on that contract, the prospects would have to be really premium (Abrams, Gore). Even then, Bryant and Rizzo would not make up for the Dodgers adding Seager and the expectation that Bellinger and Betts will round into form.
I’m sure they tried that w darvish and got a hard no when cubs dangled 20 mill for abrams
Silliness. Kimbrel and Bryant alone are worth at least one solid prospect a piece and some throw ins. No need to take rubbish back. This is 2021 not 2020. Look at the market. Few premium players having good years will be available.
But not top 100 guys, let alone top 50 or top 30.
Wait and see. We really don’t know yet. Kimbrel is controllable for another year.
At $16m, $16m more than Ricketts wants to pay for.
The Rangers have too much development time into Gallo and he might have just turned the corner into an elite power hitter. Trading him now could be a fatal mistake.
What if they re-sign him as a FA after 2022?
maybe it’s not the roster and it’s the manager….
Preller is a joke, He always exceeds an unlimited budget, makes a ton of moves and the team is always just 15 moves away from putting it all together……
Really? They’re on a pace to win 92 games and will probably only get better over the next few years.
The Padres have alot of guys who are not going to “get better in the next few years”. Wil Myers, Eric Hosmer, Blake Snell and Tommy Pham come to mind.
Tommy Pham is a free agent this year
Will Myers is a free agent next year
So whether or not they get better in next “few years” isn’t something Padres need to worry about….since they won’t be around the next “few years”
A for effort though
Pham and Myers could go to outer space; it’s not diminishing the chances of the Padres winning. Like, seriously, you think SD is worried about losing those two?
Pham a .367 OBP with 9 HR good for a 119 OPS+. Thats a damn good season.
Pham had all star consideration
They’re 13 games above .500 and if the season ended today they would be in the playoffs. It’s not like they’re already out of contention this year.
I don’t understand your take at all.
He’s been there over 7 years spent a ton of $ and most of his moves have backfired.
Exactly, this guy has been spent more cash in the last three years as the GM than basically all other Padre teams in history combined. LOL
WC game on road is playoffs ok
Get 1 or 2 rental starters
Morton & Davies would be my choice.
Get a RH bat to play 1st against lefties
Cj Cron
Get a LH OF who can play all 3 OF spots
Joc Pederson, replaces Mateo
Get 1 or 2 pen pieces
Ryan Tepera, Archie Bradley
And what are you giving in return?
I have a nickel and 3 pennies!
For Morton? Something decent. He’s pitching well. But he’s a rental.
For Davies? Something meh. Hes not pitching well…peripherals aren’t good and hs Ks and bb is a career worst, but familiarity is there so you’re hoping he can turn things around back with the Padres. He’s a rental
For Cron? Something meh. He’s hitting well overall….but limited to just 1B and isnt hitting that well away from coors….but is hitting LHP hard. Another rental.
For Pederson? Something meh. He’s a 4th OF but is better than all other 4th OF Padred have. You’re hoping he regains form as a right masher. Another rental as I doubt they pick up the 10 mill option.
For Tepera? Something ok. He’s pitching well but is 33 and a rental.
For Bradley? Something ok. He’s pitching decent, but peripherals are ugly. Ks are way down walks are way up. Another rental
LOL
Seeing as the Cubs likely won’t be competing in the postseason, it makes a lot of sense for Chicago to get something for Bryant in a trade for the final 2 months of his contract before he hits the open market.
As for why the Mets should target him in a trade, they need a massive shot in the arm offensively, and Bryant has put together another All-Star season in 2021.
Over 81 games, Bryant has hit .271 with a .351 OBP with 16 home runs and 46 RBI. Stacked up against the rest of the Mets starters, only Pete Alonso has more home runs (17) and RBI (49) than Bryant, and the only starter with a higher average is Brandon Nimmo (.323).
Bryant’s bat would fit into the Mets’ lineup very nicely, and could give the team the boost it needs down the stretch as New York makes a hopeful run at the postseason.
As for where Bryant would play in the field, he is very flexible defensively. while primarily a third baseman, he has also started games for the Cubs in 2021 in all three positions in the outfield, as well as 10 games at first base.
Since the Mets have been without starting 3B JD Davis the majority of the season, and outfielders Michael Conforto and Dominic Smith have underperformed at the plate through the first half of the season, there are several different ways Bryant could hypothetically be inserted into the field.
Obviously a player of Bryant’s caliber may go for a hefty ransom, but if the Mets are serious about contending in 2021, he should certainly be a focal point of any trade talks with the Cubs.
If not traded, he will get a QO form cubs. So the cost to acquire has to be more valuable than a late first round pick. So it would cost baty or possibly Mauricio to acquire Bryant.
If I’m Mets – It’s a good time to sell high on Mauricio. Might get a second piece from cubs w him as headliner
Gallo, Gibson and Kennedy to the Mets for Mauricio, Szapucki, and Lee ? Besides relieving the Rangers of $$. The Mets get their replacement of Conforto and Stroman for next year and their cheaper, also gives the Mets a decent LH starter to put with deGrom,Carrasco,Walker,Megill and if they resign Syndergaard at a 1 year discount or goodbye
That’s a real win this year or next move for the Mets. If the Rangers would do it I’d say it’s interesting but the two pitchers don’t really excite me.
On second thought I guess giving up Mauricio isn’t so much for that package so probably worth it to take the chance that Gibson is for real. Would the Rangers do it though?
Rizzo can play first base and he has a lifetime ERA of zero.
When the @rays trade a pitcher, buyer beware. They always know when a guy has peaked.
“ Starting pitching was expected to be a strength for this club, but Padres starters are a more middle-of-the-pack unit than the dominant one expected after a series of flashy offseason pickups.”
It was?? To whom?
Preller twice suspended by MLB is a fraud