Mets ace Jacob deGrom has suffered a setback in his rehab from a forearm issue, as recent testing revealed additional inflammation, MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo reports (Twitter link). He’ll be shut down from throwing entirely for another two weeks.
It’s already been more than three weeks since deGrom pitched in a game, so he’ll need some form of rehab assignment or buildup once he’s ready to begin throwing again. Given that, it’s hard to imagine him returning to a big-league mound for the Mets prior to September.
The Mets have a 3.5 game lead in the National League East. Neither the Braves nor Phillies – their closest competitors – made significant splashes at today’s deadline, though both clubs did add some pieces in an attempt to contend with New York. The Nationals and Marlins both sold pieces, and the Mets face that pair 11 times in the coming month.
In terms of their own deadline, the Mets clearly had their pitching depth in mind, though they weren’t able to make a significant addition to that end, and besides, no one can fill deGrom’s shoes. Carlos Carrasco is returning, however, and Trevor Williams was a fine pickup from the Cubs as a depth option (he was optioned to Triple-A). Still, the Mets’ viability as a contender would seem to hinge on deGrom’s long-term health.
Clearly, this will be a situation to monitor moving forward. The trade deadline has passed, so the Mets are what they are for the most part, but hopefully, another couple of weeks of rest will be enough to figure out how to get deGrom back on track and ready for the postseason push.
davidk1979
Disaster
ExileInLA 2
Aka normal for the Mets.
Big phil
Absolutely a disaster. Anyone watching this team play the reds tonight. A disgrace this team can’t hit. There is no way they continue in first place. Conforto should be sent down he sucks so bad batting 201 but wants to get paid 200 + million are you kidding me he is aaa player at best ok once a week he makes a play in the outfield but his whole career he sucks at the plate not fair to expect biaz to carry this team much more work to be done
txman22
Conforto is streaky, but the whole season is no longer streaky or a slump. Play Drury. More hits in a week than Mike has in July.
He must regret not signing in spring training. Let him test FA!
Big phil
16 straight mets to be retired tonight. Did you do your job at the trade deadline Zach?? So far bottom 8th
wright1970
Sandy wants to hold on to every prospect that he originally drafted b4 BVW took over!! But the Wilpons and BVW are the ones to blame because BVW traded away a pile of prospects and it is showing now in the Mets farm system. Mets FO are in a tough predicament right now….
Joe says...
Disappointing. DeGrom was looking like a man among boys. Hope he gets back soon.
afsooner02
Likely will cost him his 3rd cy young. He was way ahead too.
Raps902420
The injury may have cost him NL MVP as well
LordD99
May?
BeforeMcCourt
Yes May
For a pitcher to win the MVP he not only had to have an extraordinary season through 30 starts, he also needs to not have a position player competing with him. “Maybe” at best.
And No. You cannot simply expect a sub 1 era to continue from anyone for 4+ months further. Even degrom
VonPurpleHayes
Season was only halfway done. It’s not like he just missed it. He’s not even at the midway point. To your point, he was pitching beautifully and was the best in the game, but talking about CY Youngs for a guy who didn’t make it to July is silly. It’s like talking about a No-Hitter in the 4th inning.
LordD99
@BeforeMcCourt, I agree. I was pointing out that the poster for some reason used the qualifier “may.” It will cost him the Cy and certainly the MVP. There is no need to include the word”may.”
JerryBird
He is a media favorite, so he probably has that locked up already.
The Baseball Fan
Sigh, that depressing time when the trade deadline is over, everyone is settling in, but it’s still not quite the end of the season yet. And by the way one of the best pitchers just got injured. Sorry to be negative, really pumped for postseason though!
Baseball 1600
“They’re just saving him for when they’re in the World Series”
DODGER JR
LOL. Is he being given tickets to game one?
Smelly_Cobb
I feel like the dodgers might pull off an epic choke job. Chemistry seems awful
BeforeMcCourt
You realize about 90% of this years LA team was from last year’s title squad? Bauer alone is not the entire team. If anything, they all handed together to say goodbye. But sure buddy
Ducky Buckin Fent
Relax, @McCourt.
Dodgers are the overwhelming favorite & we all know it. Winning is “chemistry”.
em650r
If the Mets had a good lead on the East.
RobM
Surgery is coming within the next year. I’m not saying that because I want that. I love watching him pitch, but the signs are all there.
JerryBird
Agreed, 100%
LordD99
I hope not Rob, but I noted previously three separate medical data points and trend lines that point toward eventual surgery. It was not well received.
Hopefully he’s back and pitching come September.
jopeness
Lindon and degrom are done for season. just do whatever ending surgery is needed and stop prolonging the agony
bostonbob
Correct, a betting man would say TJ
dirkg
I’m not a Mets fan, but a baseball fan, and I love watching DeGrom pitch. Whenever I see forearm tightness or inflammation, I cringe. It can happen, but not many guys can rehab this type of injury inter-season.
jdgoat
Can somebody do a mental health check on MetsFan22?
The Baseball Fan
Not it
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
She’s been quiet for awhile.
RobM
A mental health check on MetsFan22 might produce conflicting results no matter the time of year.
FletcherFan66
“Guys, you don’t understand. This is actually GOOD for the Mets”
1984wasntamanual
The Mets are clearly the best team this year and possibly ever, they’re just trying to give the rest of MLB a chance.
The Baseball Fan
Guys- the Mets don’t HAVE to try. Degrom was not the answer, all along it was Trevor Williams! This is our year!
Metsfan-22
I am unwell
Lloyd Emerson
I bet they’re really glad they traded for that stud Trevor Williams now!
BrewersMVP08
This is why they should have gone after Berrios. Relying on hurt pitchers to get healthy and pitch in October was a very stupid way to approach the deadline.
RobM
They likely were aware of this earlier. No way they’d announced it while they were negotiating up to the trade deadline at 4::00.
burn0820
Not for Dom and Mauricio
Canosucks
@BrewersMVP08 Spot on! Same old bad mets management.
Tom Price
Sounds like TJ again. D amn.
Lars MacDonald
It sure does. “A forearm issue” is the kiss of death for future UCL surgery.
burn0820
There’s no tears in his elbow, how could it be Tommy John?
BeforeMcCourt
The idea is he has so much inflammation the mri doesn’t “see” the tear
I don’t think that’s it for degrom. But he’d hardly be the first to need surgery after first mri seemed clean.
Doxie
Let DeGrom get healthy, he is the best pitcher in baseball and a treat to watch pitch, even against your team.
Ted
Maybe he’s the best in the game because he’s going 100% every pitch. I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but maybe at 96mph instead of 100mph he’d throw enough innings to make a difference for his team.
RobM
Same, but I have heard MLB pitchers say that he doesn’t need to go 100 mph on every pitch. He’s plenty good enough to dial it back, which means he could pitch further into games, and may be less likely to have issues that could send him to the IL., particularly as he ages. He is max effort all the time, and that is potentially problematic.
Carlcarlson
Exactly
BleedingBlue162232
@Ted
I’m hoping Dustin May adapts that philosophy going forward. It’s just not natural or sustainable to throw that hard, with that much movement — for 90+ pitches at a time. I mean, even someone like Nolan Ryan didn’t have the crazy movement on his fastball that guys do nowadays — and Ryan was an outlier of longevity nonetheless.
Hopefully deGrom can somehow avoid what seems to be inevitable surgery and come back for the postseason.
padam
He’s already had it.
syndergaardshair
Everybody was in awe watching him throw 100 mph on every pitch, can’t say I’m surprised it just isn’t natural to do that
BasedBall
High velocity and huge movement.
His arm side run is the best I’ve seen in awhile.
That has to add strain on the forearm.
Poopscab13
RIP my fantasy team
Say Hey Now Kid
RIP my real team
TradeAcuna
Degrom will now get to watch three of the most irritating and conceited players from the dugout – Lindor, Baez, and Stroman,
whyhayzee
The Mets are not conceding anything.
tstats
That’s a different word
2012orioles
I wanted them to get Bauer in the offseason so I could root against him and stroman. Baez and Lindor don’t irk me like they do, but they have that label too
TradeAcuna
Did you see the tweet from Stroman after the Baez trade? Something like, “I’m sorry for beating you in the WBC. Hope you forgive me.”
The guy just couldn’t wait to insert himself in the conversation. Good thing the Mets have deGrom and Alonso though – the complete opposite.
raisinsss
That’s not something Tom Seaver would have ever done, amirite?
1984wasntamanual
I’m not a huge fan of Stroman and I actually do like Baez (he can be frustrating to watch, but I wouldn’t call him irritating – I’m a cubs’ fan), but that comment doesn’t seem that bad to me. I guess I see where you’re coming from with inserting himself, a little bit, but it seems like a light hearted joke to a new teammate?
Shrutefarm
13 games coming up for the Mets against LA and SF. NL East far from over.
Orel Saxhiser
Yep, 13 games in a row. Mets probably need to go into that stretch with a 2-3 game lead. That makes these next 13 games critical. Doable but they need to take care of business.
Reds (3)
@Marlins (4)
@Phillies (3)
Nationals (3)
DarkSide830
lemme take them odds for Atlanta…
VonPurpleHayes
No doubt in my mind who’s winning this division. Not the Mets. Not the Phillies.
SeeUonTheUlnarSide
Have you watched the Braves this year? They’re awful. If Riley didn’t catch fire in July, they would be spooning with the fish in the basement.
Losing DeGrom for any period if time is awful, but a DeGrom-less Mets look better than the rest of the NL east, especially post deadline. They will take the division by 3 games. With an 84 – 78 record. Now I’m going to play Powerball….
whyhayzee
The Mets need to start really hitting. A lot. They have the horses. No excuses. Score runs. Cobble together enough pitching to get to September.
Lanidrac
So much that ERA record. I don’t think he’ll be able to pitch enough innings to qualify for it now.
Cosmo2
He wasn’t touching that record anyway
Colt 45
Nat’l league east race is like watching a demolition derby with everybody driving pintos and vegas
jim stem
…just don’t back a pinto into anything!
Canosucks
Don’t worry we killed it at the trade deadline and picked up great starting pitching!
Oh, I am sorry I dreamed that, my bad, such bad management it was the Phillies who killed it and got Gibson and Kennedy.
We can resign Eickoff
raisinsss
You’re the reason for the mute button.
tstats
You’re the reason comedy has died
Ronk325
It’s starting to sound like deGrom’s season is done and surgery could be coming down the road
BeeVeeTee
Here come the Braves and Phillies!!!!
Luke Nowak
MISSING:MetsFan22
no reward for his finding
tstats
Reward for his finding: execution
YankeesBleacherCreature
There’s no need for this kind of stuff, man. Don’t be stupid.
Metsfan-22
im right here. not doing well
SheaGoodbye
Hate to be a pessimist but we all knew this was coming. Forearm tightness is usually more than a minor concern.
If DeGrom is done I don’t know what we’re trying to do via the recent trades. It’s nice the team is trying to stay afloat, but even if we reach the postseason our prospects do not look good. Don’t want to give up any more of our higher-graded prospects for rentals and such.
tidybowlman
It sounds like you enjoy being a pessimist.
Cosmo2
Actually strikes me as more a realist than a pessimist
jim stem
I guess the training staff has never heard of anti-inflammatory meds or ice?
Honestly, I think he is shut down until the Braves are tied with them.
tstats
Ice stops the swelling but not the issue
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
Dr. Jim Stem, MD everybody.
Wowwwwww
Mets gonna Mets. How long until Baez is on the IL? I give it 3 weeks tops
budman3 2
Clearly the Mets plan on outscoring teams the rest of the season. A team with a recent history of not being able to keep their starters healthy for any given length of time has finally decided it’s not worth figuring out why and just go with offense.
And even that is not a given, despite spending a lot of money and talent on acquiring it.
DocBB
No wonder they rushed back Carrasco….Titanic
Carlcarlson
How about you throw 100 not 103? Just a thought.
mookiesboy
Had their pitching depth in mind? Are you Fn kidding us? They did nothing!
bobtillman
Should have traded deGrom today when they had the chance.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Voit, Andujar, and Frazier.
Tiger_diesel92
Looks like tjs again. This guy was good before ticking up the fastball velocity he’s been doing each year. Now it finally caught up to him. He was good enough not to reach 100 mph on his fastball, should’ve done it like how verlander pitches when you just throw where you don’t need. Lot of effort and dig back when you need it.
JerryBird
It didn’t work for Verlander either.
stymeedone
It did for a very long time.
Noel1982
Mets didn’t need no sorry kris Bryant they needed some gosh darn pitching
Cosmo2
And they got Baez. Go ahead, make fun of them. They deserve it in this case.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Really surprised they basically stood pat. I wouldn’t discount Philly. They got better today.
Cosmo2
Things just got a lot more difficult for the Mets
Robrock30
Surprise Surprise Surprise Mets have been hiding the inevitable.
Goodbye CY #3 Goodbye HOF
tstats
Woah woah woah, HOF is still on the table
Robrock30
He’s too old if he misses time for surgery, he won’t have enough innings or wins to be voted in w/o 3 CYs.
He’s no Tom Seaver or Nolan Ryan the 2 greatest Mets home grown HOF WS Champs that I grew up watching.
Cosmo2
Well he’s not getting in there in wins no matter what happens. That was never how he was going to be judged.
Bart Harley Jarvis
tstats,
Maybe the HOF should implement a 100 win minimum for starting pitching? deGrom’s at 77 wins, and 100 is looking like a real long shot.
Cosmo2
A 100 win requirement for the HOF would be ridiculous. No Mariano Rivera? Why this one stipulation in an otherwise open ended process? For a virtually meaningless stat no less.
stymeedone
When did Mariano become a starting pitcher? Is this revisionist history? Not aware this would be needed. What starting pitcher with less than 100 wins is currently on the Hall?
Cosmo2
Ok, I missed the SP requirement aspect. Relax. It’s still a monumentally dumb idea.
MetsFan22
Should theCY winner this year get a * next to hjs name on the record books?
Colt 45
Well done, MetsFan22, well done.
Say Hey Now Kid
He never disappoints does he
riffraff
why would wheeler get an asterisk next to his name?
YankeesBleacherCreature
To denote the NL MVP award Wheeler will also win.
DarkSide830
Wheeler aint even gonna win the Cy most likely
1984wasntamanual
No justification or excuses? I’m disappointed.
Ancient Pistol
No CY for DeGrom this year.
Big phil
degrom needs Tommy john again they just don’t want to say it yet
tidybowlman
Big Phil, you sound like a very gassy man.
VonPurpleHayes
No. Because the CY winner will have pitched more than half a seasons worth of games.
citizen
Revamping an outfield and adding a closer/set up.pitcher is not signigant? You read this site much?
Basballfanno1
Say braves didn’t make a splash neither did the Mets
mlbnyyfan
Why didn’t Mets want Berrios? Is Thor definitely coming back to save the season?
Cosmo2
Price was probably too high.
citizen
Mets could have had Harvey. Leading Baltimore in wins.
Big phil
lol no they didn’t they have conforto batting 201 lmfao this team can’t hit they did nothing and ain’t going nowhere
Cosmo2
Still in first place. Conforto will pick it up.
Bill M
You have a bad track record at predicting the future. First place? Maybe. Conforto picking it up? I don’t see it. He’s been a number 8 hitter all year
Cosmo2
Bad track record? When have I predicted anything? Only thing I ever predict is regression to norms.
Kewldood69
Bummer. He’s the cream of the crop right now. As a Dodgers fan, I’m surprised that Kershaw hasn’t had a major shoulder or arm injury. Throwing a baseball hard isn’t normal.
Joe It All
It’s looking like the Reds getting 2012 Joey Votto might be the best acquisition of the trade deadline.
Big phil
Absolutely a disaster. Anyone watching this team play the reds tonight. A disgrace this team can’t hit. There is no way they continue in first place. Conforto should be sent down he sucks so bad batting 201 but wants to get paid 200 + million are you kidding me he is aaa player at best ok once a week he makes a play in the outfield but his whole career he sucks at the plate not fair to expect biaz to carry this team much more work to be done
JackStrawb
A disaster indeed. It’s impossible to see how adding a .303 career OBP (,292 this year and a .271 OBP in 150 games in 2020-2021) to an offense that can’t score runs will accomplish anything constructive.
The wrongheadedness of getting Baez and a weak AAA arm is breathtaking.
Bill M
Best line of the article: “Trevor Williams was a fine pickup. He was then optioned to Triple A.”
JackStrawb
@Bill M — I laughed at the author’s gall in spinning that one.
Consider that Williams is so bad that the Mets currently rank him behind Anthony Banda (6.14 ERA) on their depth chart. As for Williams, some choice numbers:
2019-2021, 5.48 ERA in the NL. ERA+ 79, 5.24 FIP, 1.475 WHIP.
Per 9 IP: 7.7 K, 3.0 BB, 1.8 HR, 10.3 H. That’s abysmal.
In 2021 we’re looking at a 5.06 ERA, 4.52 FIP, 1.534 WHIP, 10.4 H, 1.5 HR.
If the Mets need him, and they will since he’s currently their #6 starter, they’re in far worse trouble than currently.
Meanwhile the Yankees got Andrew Heaney for their #27 prospect. #27. The very fringe of their ranked prospects.
Heaney’s not the greatest prize, but his ERA this season of 5.27 is undergirded by a FIP of 4.05. He has a 4.60 ERA in the AL from 2018-2021, a 97 ERA+, and a strong FIP of 4.11. His peripherals are an acceptable 9.9 K, 2.6 BB, 1.5 HR, 8.6 H/9, 1.248 WHIP.
Heaney’s 1.1 WAR in 2021 is about what you’d expect from a good #5 starter at this stage of the season. He’s picked up 6.3 WAR in 598 career innings. In 2021: 10.8 K, 3.0 BB, 1.5 HR, 8.8 H, 1.309 WHIP, 4.05 FIP.
As I said, Heaney hardly sparkles, but he’s light years better than Trevor Williams. In failing to get him the Mets lethargic FO did something similar in failing to offer a prospect in the high-20s in their organization for Tyler Anderson, a pitcher similar to Heaney who is also much better than Williams. This prospect hugging by a team desperate for passable starting pitching is abominable.
Fakename1314
Just say TJ surgery. The organization knows it, and with that, had the worst trade day. Question is, who will win out, Phillies or Bravos?
YourDreamGM
His arm is fine. Just a lil set back. Do you really think that the smartest team, with the richest owner in baseball would just sit back and do nothing if he wasn’t going to be healthy dominating your team in the post season.
jvent
Walker needs to wake the F- UP, Stroman and Megill has been very good, so far old man Hill did ok , they think strikeout king Baez the Braves traded for a couple of players today, probably and unfortunately gonna catch the Mets, they should of gotten Berrios, Bryant and Kimbrel. All of that waiting down to the wire and come out with Baez and Trevor Williams ? They gave up their CF of the future for that!
Colt 45
Nats were the only team in the division to win tonight – just 6 and a half back now.
THAT would be the best possible ending in this train wreck of a division.
joeyrocafella
The Mets KNEW this news today and still only got Trevor Williams?? Why not go all in and get Story and Gray instead of Baez, if you already know Jake will be out for a while?
Metsfan-22
Hopes and prayers for a speedy recovery
brucenewton
Mets have been under .500 the past couple of months. Slide will likely continue, playoffs unlikely.