Locked in a tight NL West race, the Padres are known to be looking for starting pitching and lineup help at the deadline. This leaves a wide range of possibilities open for an aggressive general manager like A.J. Preller, and Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune hears that Preller’s front office has “has talked with other teams about scenarios ranging from the seemingly obvious to the implausible.”
That gamut might be reflected in two hitters Acee links to the Padres, as he reiterates that the club continues to be interested in Joey Gallo, long mentioned as a target for San Diego. Beyond Gallo, however, Acee also notes that the Padres were one of the NL teams who had an interest in Nelson Cruz, before Minnesota sent the veteran slugger to the Rays in a trade earlier tonight. It would’ve been bold to put Cruz (a DH-only player for the last three seasons) back in line for regular outfield duty, which might be why the Twins ultimately found the most interested suitor in an AL team that could deploy Cruz in his normal DH spot.
On the pitching front, the Padres are looking for multiple arms to aid a rotation that had been hit with injuries. Acee writes that the targets are “both a potential innings eater and a starter who could be a viable option to start early in a playoff series.” The Padres’ talks with the Rangers and Twins also involved such names as Kyle Gibson, Jordan Lyles, and Kenta Maeda. San Diego has also had interest in Rockies right-hander Jon Gray and Royals left-hander Danny Duffy, though it is unclear if Duffy is still a consideration after he was placed on the 10-day injured list earlier this week.
Gray, Duffy, and Lyles are all pure rentals, as free agents after the season. Duffy and Gray have pretty comparable overall metrics, and while Duffy’s 2.51 ERA is significantly better than Gray’s 3.68 ERA, Gray has 93 innings pitched to Duffy’s 61, as Duffy is in the midst of his second IL stint of the season. Duffy also has full no-trade protection but the California native might be open to agreeing to be dealt back to his home state. Gray has no such trade protection, though the Rockies’ willingness to move a notable player to a division rival could be a potential obstacle.
The biggest issue with acquiring Lyles is likely that the 30-year-old simply hasn’t pitched well over his two years in Texas, posting a 5.84 ERA in 165 innings since the start of the 2020 season. A change of scenery could help Lyles regain the effectiveness he displayed in 2018-19, and Lyles is a familiar face for Preller, as the righty pitched for San Diego during the 2017 and 2018 campaigns.
A trade could also help Maeda escape the doldrums of a tough 2021 season, though the right-hander far from struggled in his first year in Minnesota, finishing second in 2020 AL Cy Young Award voting. Maeda missed a little over three weeks with a groin injury this year, and has pitched better over his last three starts, with a 1.69 ERA over his last 16 innings.
Maeda is no stranger to the NL West after spending his first four MLB seasons with the Dodgers, and he also has the most contractual control of any of the five pitchers known to be on San Diego’s radar. Maeda is owed only $3MM in guaranteed money in each of the 2022 and 2023 season, but several millions more are available in incentives based on innings pitched and games started. The overall price tag is still quite reasonable, and as much as Maeda hasn’t been a front-of-the-rotation type in 2021, his contract and his past track record make him a good trade chip. Of course, this assumes that Minnesota would be open to a trade for anything more than a very generous offer, as the Twins are reportedly not very interested in dealing anything beyond rental players.
Gibson is also controlled beyond 2021, as he still has a full year remaining (worth $7MM) on the three-year, $28MM free agent deal he inked with the Rangers in the 2019-20 offseason. With a 2.86 ERA over his first 107 innings, Gibson is on pace for a career year, and he already was named an All-Star for the first time in his nine MLB seasons. Gibson doesn’t miss many bats, however, and both his Statcast profile and overall career numbers don’t much help the argument that he can keep up this borderline ace production over the course of a full season, or into 2022.
What the Padres would be willing to give up for any of these players (or any deadline target) is still up in the air. The club is close to the $210MM luxury tax threshold already but they reportedly have the ability to cross that threshold, so money might not be the most pressing issue for deadline acquisitions. In regards to moving prospects, Acee hears that the Padres aren’t willing to move any of their top four minor leaguers — presumably MacKenzie Gore, CJ Abrams, Luis Campusano, or Robert Hassell — and might even look to add some more young talent in deals, though obviously the Padres wouldn’t be “deadline sellers” by any stretch of the imagination.
Speculatively, San Diego could look into some type of complex multi-player deal that would see them acquire a package that includes at least one notable MLB player that can help them win now, as well as a minor leaguer or two. The inclusion of prospects could perhaps make it easier for the Padres to move one of their better minor leaguers as part of a trade.
I think Preller has proven that everything is on the table. Should be interesting!
I sleep better at night know that hoyer didn’t get totally fleeced in darvish trade. That preciado kid is looking solid. Will need to move to 3B though
Don’t forget Owen Cassie, he is tearing it up too.
I hope that Darvish trade works out for the Cubs, brace yourselves for more.
Angels should be calling about Cobb and Iglesias
Jordan Lyles has been sneaky good his last 6-7 outings. His ERA is deceptive to how well he’s been pitching over the last 6-8 weeks.
He needs to go back to Milwaukee.
Well his first start out of the All-Star kind of undid any goodwill during that quality stretch. He has to re-prove himself after that dud
Jordan Lyles has these good stretches but then absolutely terrible unstartable stretches. Yes. I just invented the word “unstartable.” but that’s the only term that encapsulates Lyles during his bad periods. It’s like Touki Toussaint with the Braves. He’s been great for stretches but he has been nothing but a triple-A pitcher who would have and ERA above 4.00 in the MINORS for other stretches. These pitchers need to get it together and trust their own stuff. If challenging hitters is what got you to the big show, don’t stop challenging them when you get there. Throw the strikes to the best of your ability and tell them to hit it if they can. I am so tired of watching “top prospects” walk batters because they are trying to be too careful. Did that work in the minors? No. Why would it work in the majors? No one calls a pitcher up to the majors because they are “careful.” They are called up because their stuff is nasty and pitches they throw IN THE ZONE are frequently still unhittable. That’s all that really matters. As a Braves fan I am super disappointed in Sean Newcomb and Kyle Wright. What? You can strike guys out all over the place in triple-A but over a several year span you can’t even find the strike zone in the majors? Like they said in Money Ball: “He’s got an ugly girlfriend” because he doesn’t have confidence in his own ability. If you are a very high draft pick who has proven to perform well at the triple-A level you shouldn’t need more confidence. Let them hit you if they can. Don’t ever give a free pass. Much less give a free pass to MLB players over and over again every time you take the mound.
Pads: “we are looking to make major moves”
Other teams: “okay, we were thinking one of your top 4 prospects for player ___________.”
Pads: “they’re untouchable, please look at #’s 5-30 or later.”
Other teams: “well, you’ve really thinned out in that section of prospects. we’re not going to give you player __________, for just your scraps”
Basically sums up the pads. I am guessing they’re going to have to cave, or their going to have to bargain shop.
Yeah they’ll cave…to the Rangers
You know Preller and Daniels are chums
Being friends goes out the window when your in a rebuild and have almost 0 trade chips.
I didn’t know just 4 guys made you a top 5 farm system in all of baseball.
Those 4 are all in MLBs top 30 prospects, plus they actually have about 6 or 7 in the top 100. Plus the prospects outside the top 100 are very close to cracking and are still coveted by many teams.
The padres could make some major trades without giving up their top 4 very easily
maybe you could point me to where they have all those other top 100 prospects? I am only finding places with 4… Hassell, CAmpuano, Gore, and Abrams? MLB and Fangraphs only list those 4 as top 100… They still have a good “farm” because they have 4 legit prospects, but if they are trying to make a deal without including them, I definitely see them bargain shopping… Prepare for the C level trades where they maybe bring in a 4 or 5 rotation piece, or maybe a platoon partner for their lineup… Pads cannot expect to trade nothing and get something. For as much as everyone ragged on the cubs for trading Darvish, 2 of the 4 guys they got back are mashing and climbing up the prospect chain… I think the pads are definitely backing themselves in a corner if they don’t “go” for it. Gore is a guy who cannot throw strikes, might as well try to package him for a big time rotation piece like Berrios or something like that.
Those 2 guys the Cubs got from the Padres, the guys who are mashing, were both prospects in the #5-#20 range. Those are exactly the kinds of prospects they will be trading now. Did you really think that you got the only good prospects in that range that the Padres had? You didn’t.
“ Did you really think that you got the only good prospects in that range that the Padres had? You didn’t.”
Well not just the Cubs. Also the Rays & Indians & Brewers
The Padres system is both top heavy and the top are near universally having bad years. Not a good combo
Actually Before, top heavy my arse. The wealth of talent in the Pads farm never ceases to amaze me, and as a Giants fan I’m envious. This year especially they’ve developed and observed the rising success of their “bottom tier” prospects. The full system is now ranked 5 in MLB and guys like Joshua Mears, Justin Lange, Darius Valdez, Mason Fox, Mason Thompson, Tucapita Marciano, Anderson Espinoza, Eguy Rosario, Jagger Haynes, Tirso Ornelas are now mid-core prospects. The International player development is tops in baseball so the trade chips just keep coming. Of course as a Dodger fan you will hope that by saying it’s otherwise it will be true, but reality bites again. So yes, the Cubs, Indians, Brewers, Rays and other teams will continue to deal with Preller, because the prospects are enticing. I guess that’s the point of your persistent diatribe, just not the outcome you’d hoped for.
@justacubsfan:
Funny, but I could have sworn you wrote those exact same words, last year, and the year before, and maybe the year before that, as the Padres KEPT their top prospects and DEALT about 36 or 39 prospects, many of whom are now in the top 10 within their organizations (or actually playing on MLB rosters).
If not you, I read others swearing that if the Padres would not give up Gore, or Campusano, or Tatis when he was still a project, then “no deal”. Yet, deals were made, the Padres kept the gems of their organization (although losing Luis Patino was a pretty good sized blow to the farm system), and the Padres ….
… just keep getting stronger.
Team’s fans tend to overvalue their team’s prospects, and undervalue other team’s prospects. It’s very natural. However, those valuations are usually not accurate. The Padres have a lot of talent beyond their headliners, just as other teams have buried gold deep in their farm systems. Good front offices tend to be better able to mine that good, than others. Take Tampa or the Dodgers, for example: REALLY excellent in seeking out and obtaining good talent, as well as in developing it. Preller’s right up there. Sometimes he’s better, sometimes he gets beat. However, when Preller’s Padres-Trade-Store is open for business. ALL 29 other MLB teams, come knocking (as well as a few international professional organizations in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Mexico, and etc.).
Jon Gray would be nice.
But Padres need depth so getting Gray and someone like Zach Davies would be nice.
They still need a competent 4th OF. Andrew Bennetendi comes to mind as a platoon guy this year and an immediate replacement next year if Pham leaves via FA in the off season.
Benintendi*
Hmm, Padre fans told me all offseason that Davies would never been needed on their team so his trade didn’t matter
Funny how things play out
My favorite was when people said the Padres asked the Cubs to take Davies in the Darvish trade as a salary offset. According to those people the Padres are just giving away serviceable MLB starters.
Im sure the dodgers thought they were fine rotation wise before Bauer was put on the suspended list and Dustin May went down with tjs.
Funny how things change right Frank?
Wouldn’t be surprised if the dodgers acquire veteran starring pitching depth cause you never know what could happen between August 1st and September 30th.
You forgot to mention old man Kershaw and soon to be released bs Jansen
Most Padre fans I know hated to see Davies go. But in looking at the season he’s had in Chicago, they’re glad he did.
Would you rather have Darvish or Davies?
That answer is obvious, but your question is inaccurate, omitting the rest of the cost of Darvish. When giving up good prospects for a good pitcher, giving up a better-than-average starter to get an Ace, is a bit painful. (I haven’t even looked at Davies performance this year. He was doing well at the beginning of the year, and his track record is strong, even if he’s stumbled.
Look at the Snell trade. That’s one that I regret, in fact, didn’t like from the beginning. I think Luis Patino is going to become one heck of a starter. However, Snell may eventually straighten himself out.
Heck, another (non-pitching) comparison. I was pretty bummed about Tommy Pham, who was a definite disappointment. Croneworth made that trade a net win, but Pham was definitely not what he was supposed to be. Now? Now, he’s been carrying the team for a month, or at least, doing a lion’s share of the work.
So, even with the losses, Preller’s win’s WAY outweight his fumbles. I miss Davies, and am glad to have a true ace in Darvish, on the Padres team. Pitching is so fickle to begin with, but finding an true ace is just one of the rarest things in baseball. The Padres should be filled with aces, based up on Gore and Patino (before they traded him), and the guys they brought in (Darvish, Snell, Musgrove), plus the talent already on the team (Paddack, Weathers), and the guy on infinite DL (Clevinger).. But, only Darvish has actually fulfilled that role. Maybe the others will come ’round and make the grade, but not yet.
Hey Salt, the UT forums are back btw
“Preller’s win’s WAY outweight his fumbles.”
Trea Turner, Max Fried, Matt Kemp, Freddy Galvis, Ian Kinsler, Luis Patiño, Franmil Reyes, Cal Quantrill, Hudson Potts, Francisco Mejia, Cole Wilcox and Eric Hosmer all say hi.
And we’d all like to say goodbye to you, Ryan
Hey dude! Have the Padres traded Wil Myers for Noah Syndergaard yet? Or have the Mets made a lateral move by trading Noah Syndergaard and trading for Corey Kluber yet? Or have the Padres traded for JT Realmuto and “just extended” him yet?
The Royals are not going to trade Andrew Benintendi. We just got him and I’m guessing he’s supposed to be our leftfielder for many more years to come.
He only has one year left.
How can Benintendi be your left fielder for many more years to come when he only has one year of arb left? And you better not say “We can extend him…”
Heaney pitched well tonight – might be his last for the halos
The Gallo to the Padres rumors are starting to give me major 2020-21 offseason “Yelich and Hader trade” Padres Twitter vibes.
This is pathetic. Funny. Most of all – Entertaining.
Mr. Preller is very good at finding and signing prospects. However, his Padres have no clue as to how to develop players, especially at the major league level.
As with the Phillies owner, the Padres owner got tired of waiting for Preller’s rebuild to work, and demanded that the team contend NOW! The Phillies owner shelled out money to sign multiple expensive free agents. Preller had already given a few bad large contracts out and was stuck with those players (Myers and Hosmer), but the owner still shelled out for Machado. Meanwhile Preller had so many poor-producing prospects on the roster that he was about to lose many to the Rule 5 draft. The next step was to package a group of them and take on established veterans that might have large salaries, but would still cost less then signing FA’s…..IF they could sign the FA’s. Quality, efficient teams such as the Rays and Indians started making multiple trades with Preller by moving expensive players that were at their peak for a grab bag of prospects – knowing that the youngsters they bought in were probably not going to become the stars the Preller-infatuated national baseball media had made them out to be, but would become productive ML players if brought along for a few years and spotted intelligently.
Last offseason Preller found not just one starting pitcher to get the team “over the top”, he brought in 3 – Darvish, Musgrove and Snell. (Lost in this flurry was that for all of Mr. Preller’s genius, he had not signed and developed one solid starting pitcher that was on the roster after 6-7 years.) Today the Padres are yet again looking for starting pitchers.
So now we have yet another desperate owner thinking that if he just goes over the cap and spends more money to win this season, everything will turn up roses. It didn’t in 2020, and won’t in 2021. At some point the large prospect pools will be whittled down to next to nothing, and the Padres will be stuck with a roster of highly paid veterans – most of whom will be slowly regressing on the field meanwhile their salaries go up……making it next to impossible to move them (see Yankees, New York). The owner is very probably feeling that squeeze which is why desperation is setting in.
Preller had a chance to hire Ron Washington as manager a few years ago. A man that has been developing players at the major league level for decades, and at one point managed the Texas Rangers into the World Series. Instead he brought in a young manager with no track record of getting the most out of ML players. What we see is that for every player on the Padres that’s improved the past 2 years, there are just as many, if not more, that have regressed.
I find Mr. Preller tremendously entertaining to watch. He’s an example of ‘The Peter Principle’ – an executive that has been promoted past his level of competency. Shortly he’ll make another team a wonderful scouting director or consultant. Owners will line-up to bid on his services.
I can’t believe you spent the time to type this out just to tell us you don’t know much about the Padres financial situation…..
Overpaid veterans? Their “long term contracts” are Machado and Tatis Jr. Lmao
Hosmers contract converts to a 3 year 39 mill. Hardly a long term “overpaid veteran” in the mold of a Stanton, Ellsbury, etc.
Guys like Grisham, Cronenworth, haven’t even hit arb yet and their big contracts are off the books the next 3 years (Pham, Myers, Darvish, Snell, Pomeranz, Profar etc).
Next 3 years they have a lot of money coming off the books….hardly a grim financial outlook for the Padres.
Yeah, that dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about and is smoking some crack.
But hey, it was an entertaining read
You have an interesting imagination.
Tell us you know nothing about baseball without telling us you know nothing about baseball
Cool story Samuel.
@Samuel
Inaccurate, regressive analysis. Hind sight is 20-20. The Padres are in good shape financially. Some of those early large contracts are ending soon, and Hosmer’s price drops in the latter years of his contract.
Plus, you simply have a problem with logic. “Home grown” doesn’t matter, if trading 39 prospects brings you a winning club.
Cherry picking analysis, too. Tatis isn’t too bad, and yes, he was developed internally. Gore is a work in progress, but no one in baseball is calling him a bust. Gore really never experienced adversity in entire baseball life, until last season (which was nothing near “normal” for prospect development) and this year. Gore’s stuff is still the stuff of a TOR starter. His control is currently an issue, again, for the first time in his career, along with a blister problem (second time, but not entirely uncommon for a high school pitcher transitioning to the majors (1st time), or a pro prospect losing an entire minor league season).
And, you imply that Washington would have been a better manager for the Padres than Tingler?! Again, no one in professional baseball believes that. Preller arguably should have been manager of the year, last year. I’m not even going to go into the details, of why.
You have GOT to be a fan of a competing NL West team. It takes a special kind of stupid combined with sheer ignorance and arrogance, to write the kind of stuff you wrote. It’s not simply inaccurate. It’s a drunken rant.
@ OldSaltUSNR;
I’ve been watching Preller since day one, and am not making up or cherry picking anything.
MLBTR and the rest of the national baseball media has made Preller into the best evaluator of talent since Branch Rickey. Fangraphs (always wrong but for some reason regarded as experts) said Preller had assembled the best group of prospects in history.
Sure, he hit big on Tatis. I especially like the Cronenworth pickup – savvy trade.
But where are all the members of the best collection of prospects ever assembled? Not one quality starting pitcher came out of that group. The 2 closers came from free agency. According to the depth chart all starters were prospects with other organizations.
Reyes, Hedges, Renfroe, Margot, Jankowski and many of the other “can’t miss” stars are doing nice jobs as supporting players for their current team – but none of them can be considered stars or impact players by any measure….all of whom were reworked by their current organizations.
As for Preller’s acumen in trading – most of it has been taking on salary from cash strapped teams doing salary dumps. What the Yankees and Red Sox had done since free agency started. But that caused the rule changes we have regarding penalties for going over the salary cap, which slowly leveled the playing field. It now has the Yankees stuck with players they can’t move, a poor farm system, and leaving Cashman bringing in guys like Odor and sore armed veteran pitchers because he can’t spend money. Heck, look at Theo Epstein – he did the Yankee/Red Sox ‘suck the blood out of the small market teams thing and pay their established players salaries’ along with overpaying free agents – with the Cubs. Look the the mess he’s left that organization in – a poor farm system, up against the cap, and their established players hitting free agency and wanting the big bucks….which they cannot possibly pay. The Red Sox owner – Henry – saw the light and brought in Chaim Bloom from the Rays to get out of having the same fate. Giving up Betts as tough, but the Sox are now structured properly and winning again. And how about the Giants? They were tapped out financially. Hired Farhan Zaidi. Like Bloom he took a step back, restructured, and while everyone writes how they have cap room, he’s winning without overspending.
I’ve been watching MLB for a lot of decades. I’m not delusional and don’t make anything up. When teams spend, spend, spend on long-term contracts it’s only a matter of time before a few of the players go south and it’s impossible to unload those contracts. Then the salary cap penalties kick in and the quality draft choices are taken away. NO ONE has beat that system anymore than a junkie says he/she can get off the stuff when the time comes.
what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
OK, a simple wrong would have been just fine, but…
Padres called the Pirates to protect the Padres top 4. Story to be updated as more information is gathered
They should be bargain shoppers. Wait a year or two and get a top pitcher from Cleveland or Tampa. No need to worry about them declining or about to break down. They are fine. Only reason Tampa Cleveland trades players is because they can’t afford them.
Yes, Preller sure swindled those 2 teams out of Clevinger and Snell!
Cubs sale should begin shortly.
Clevinger’s trade so far is a D- until proven otherwise. Nola’s trade is so far a C+ until he can REMAIN HEALTHY.
Let the Yankees get Gallo, the padres need a guy like Castellanos, ketel Marte or Frazier, with an AVG around .300. but the kind of power that Gallo has Even hitting .240, is really appealing
Of the 3 you mention, I think Ketel Marte could benefit the most of a move to San Diego. He’ll have a start stud lineup and can put it back together. Ketel hitting at 2017-2018 Ketel, that would make the lineup more versatile even against a AL DH. The manager of the Padres could be more flexible to that lineup and actually give Padres a huge lift over Dodgers
Clevinger’s trade so far is a D- until proven otherwise. Nola’s trade is so far a C+ until he can REMAIN HEALTHY.
Let the Yankees get Gallo, the padres need a guy like Castellanos, ketel Marte or Frazier, with an AVG around .300. but the kind of power that Gallo has Even hitting .240, is really appealing
And some of the less cerebral members of our fanbase will tell you that the Padres automatically won the Clevinger trade because they dumped Hedges in the trade. And then when you point out to them that Hedges was still in arb when they traded him which means the Padres COULD have just non-tendered him if he was really a problem, they go into hiding.
The fact we got anything back for hedges at all was a win. Just dumping him for nothing seems less impactful
@damascusj dumping him for nothing would have been MUCH more impactful than dumping him, Cal Quantrill, Josh Naylor, Gabe Arias, Owen Miller and Joey Cantillo for nothing. Which is what Preller did.
@Remove, do you really believe Preller expected TJS, and that the tribe knew they were shipping damaged goods? If so then yes, at the time of the trade they gave up a lot for nothing. But back to reality… in evaluating a trade, post-trade injuries are mere fodder for those with a propensity for retrospective logic.
@ Brewer88;
Of course he no one knew about Clevinger going to need TJS. That’s not the point.
The Indians made a few trades with the Padres. They dumped Mejia on them for Brad Hand which gave them a solid closer for a few years. Later they picked up Reyes to be a middle of the order run-producing bat – after Francona and his staff had some time to develop him properly. Padre fans were ecstatic when they got the highly publicized catching prospect. How dumb. If the Indians – with a history of Sandy Alomar, Jr. developing catchers (Gomes – a former utility player and Perez – the platinum GG winner) gave up on Mejia, what made them think that the Padres would strike the motherlode? Later the Padres moved Austin Hedges to the Indians – currently Hedges is quite probably the best #2 catcher in MLB (boy, could a number of teams use him to handle their staff….starting with the Braves), and recently moved Mejia to the Rays in the trade for Snell – where the Rays are working on making him an acceptable platoon catcher.
The Rays and Indians are both teams that put a high priority on Pitchers – along with the Catchers and defense to support their efforts. They don’t try to out mash opponents. They’re happy to win close games by one run, especially low-scoring games.
The way I judge trades is not to compare one players stats to another’s – it’s to look at how players fulfill roles on the teams they were moved to that help those teams win. The Rays and Indians have not gotten a blockbuster player in their trades with the Padres (as say the Nationals with Trea Turner), but they have gotten decent, productive ML players once they developed them and spotted them in certain roles.
Bottom Line – most of Preller’s prospects can be productive MLB players when developed. But they don’t turn out to be the inevitable star players that the blowhard national baseball media makes them out to be.
P.S. Ben Cherington knows prospects, and how to develop them. It’s going to be interesting in the next few years to see what happens for the Pirates with the grab bag of prospects he got for Joe Musgrove. If history is a guide…….
In your quest to diss on Preller, you lost me when you said “Hedges is quite probably the best #2 catcher in MLB”
@ Brewer88;
And you lost me when you didn’t tell me who was better.
The Indians are a team built on pitching. Perez went down injured for 6-8 weeks. Hedges did the bulk of the Catching. Without him the Indians would be in last place. While they’re long-shot wild card contenders, he saved their season.
Ask a professional how important a Catcher is to calling a game and working with Pitchers…..after they look at you funny for asking.
Sorry to tell you this but he certainly wouldn’t be good enough to be the Padres 2nd string catcher. Nor the Dodgers, or Giants, etc…
@Brewer and Samuel I’m not convinced Cleveland didn’t know that Clevinger was damaged goods. Was definitely odd to see them trade a pitcher that good when they were ostensibly in the playoff race.
Guess we’ll never know
Just get a starter. Gallo isn’t necessary. Our line up is good enough. Could always use pen arms but I don’t think that is a big problem. Just get one more decent starter.
Need to trade for a fourth outfielder. Jackson Profile isn’t cutting it.
Profar’s high OBP and SB, switch-hitting option and excellent fielding at multiple positions is under-valued. Even his BA after the horrid start is now above league average. So sure they could use another L bat but the Pads need to solidify their unstable pitching situation if they want to advance significantly.
I agree about Profar. I like him. I think David Peralta when packaged with Merrill Kelly would be a good deal for the Padres.
Padres should go “bargain hunting”
Why don’t they go get some of the Tigers players
since Tigers are not going anywhere this year:
Relievers Soto and/or Cisneros
Hitters: Jonathan Schoop and Robby Grossman
Startin pitcher Willy Peralta
Padres could do a multi player deal with the Tigers.
but the Tigers would want back at least 1 of their top 4 prospects
like Abrams….
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Padres don’t need to pony up Abrams for Soto who’s got 4 or 5 years of team control……theyd be better off acquiring a rental lefty if anything considering that they have a lefty in Strahm coming back soon and just got back Pomeranz in addition to already having Tim Hill
Robbie Grossman and Jonathan Schoop would be good targets….but those 2 don’t net you Abrams.
Pass on Peralta. He’s only thrown 33 innings this year. Not sold he can sustain what he’s done so far.
If Abrams is ever traded (not likely) for established MLBers, he would fetch all stars, not mid tier RPs. Abrams value right now is through the roof.
Try to keep up…….
The Tigers are playing some of the best baseball in MLB today. Their youngsters have gotten playing time and are adapting to MLB level competition under AJ Hinch. When the smoke the national baseball media blows clears, fans will realize that for all the pub Preller gets it was Al Avila that put together the best batch of prospects.) Since June 20 their record is 17-9. They’re currently 4 games under .500, and stand a very good chance of finishing the year over .500.
The fallacy that the AL Central is the weakest division in MLB is nonsense. It’s the NL East that has most of their teams playing under .500 ball. The AL Central is about to become one of the strongest divisions in MLB.
The Tigers are no longer in rebuild mode. As Al Avila said the other day, they’re in BUILD mode. They’re no longer unloading veterans……they’re looking to extend them.
Yup. Normally I am looking to trade veterans, if I am not heading to the playoffs. But the Tigers have a good thing going. If they spend some money, they could be a contender as soon as next year. #9 record in BB over the past 30 games.
The Tigers don’t need to spend now – other than to extend Shoop as he’s a team leader (maybe Grossman for another year or two).
What they need to do in the process is to continue to give playing time to their youngsters. Bringing in some high-priced veterans would cut into how quickly those players will adapt to play at the ML level. They have so many quality youngsters at all positions that it’s only a matter of time before at least a few develop into stars.
No one is listening to you when you say “try to keep up”. Especially when all you did is ramble a nonsensical opinion. Go hangout w Ryan and beat a dead horse together somewhere far away
@ Padres2019ha;
I never take posters seriously that attack others, tell them what other posters think, and obviously don’t watch any games regarding the players / teams that are being discussed.
While ignorance is bliss, you are a part of generations that think it’s an asset as you all attempt to organize one another and attack those with experience and knowledge to encourage others not to listen to them…..only to expose how truly lightweight you are as you are unable to join in the conversation.
@Samuel Don’t bother with Padres2019ha. Known troll.
Duffy could be acquired for player to be named later. If arm blows up, player would be player of little consequence. Duffy can start (not an innings eater), middle relief, or even one inning guy. He has filled all roles recently with KC. He is a team-first guy who will would great for a playoff push.
Maeda will be expensive. His contact is ridiculously cheap with several years of control. If he gets healthy, which judging by the last couple starts he is, and returns to form, you’re not getting him without giving up something substantial.