The Giants made a major splash at the trade deadline buzzer, acquiring slugger Kris Bryant from the Cubs for prospects Alexander Canario and Caleb Kilian. ESPN’s Jeff Passan broke news of the trade, while Francys Romero of LasMayores was first on Canario and journalist Marc Delucchi had Kilian.
Drafted second overall in 2013 out of the University of San Diego, Bryant won the 2015 National League Rookie of the Year with the Cubs and followed that with the 2016 NL MVP award as the club finally won a championship. The Cubs famously waited until April 17th to call Bryant up back in 2015, effectively granting them a seventh year of control over the player by a margin of one day.
Though Bryant would never return to the lofty 6-8 WAR heights of his first three seasons, he settled in comfortably as a 130 wRC+ type bat, with the exception of an injury-marred 34-game 2020 season. Bryant’s bounceback season was punctuated by his fourth All-Star selection earlier this month.
As early as his sophomore season, the Cubs began deploying Bryant at positions other than his primary spot of third base. This year, manager David Ross has gotten Bryant at least 80 innings at both corner infield positions as well as all three outfield spots. Third base makes sense for Bryant in San Francisco, with Evan Longoria out until at least August 6th with a shoulder injury. Once Longoria returns, Bryant could see time in left field and perhaps center.
The Giants have surprisingly been the best team in baseball this year, and they lead the NL West by a three-game margin over the Dodgers. Giants President of Baseball Operations Farhan Zaidi may have felt some pressure after the Dodgers completed a blockbuster trade with the Nationals for Max Scherzer and Trea Turner today, also adding Danny Duffy in a deal with the Royals yesterday. So the Giants have added the big bat of Bryant to an offense that already ranked third in the NL with 4.81 runs scored per game. The Giants have a front office connection to the Cubs, as GM Scott Harris spent seven years in their baseball operations before joining San Francisco in November 2019.
Cubs fans might be disappointed to see a Bryant trade fail to return a top 100 prospect, but the player’s $19.5MM salary and impending free agency kept teams from overbidding. Canario, 21, was assigned a 50 grade by MLB.com. Prior to the season, Baseball America had Canario as a 55, a player with plus raw power but questionable plate discipline and defense. Canario suffered a torn labrum back in November, but has since posted a .235/.325/.433 line in 274 Low-A plate appearances. FanGraphs’ Eric Longenhagen gave him a 45 grade, concluding, “He has huge ceiling if the hit/approach component improves, but I wonder if the compressed developmental timeline created by his presence on the 40-man and potential lingering effects from the injury might make that tough.”
Kilian, a 24-year-old righty, was promoted from High-A to Double-A back in May. In 11 starts at that level, he owns a 2.43 ERA, 26.2 K%, and 3.3 BB%. MLB.com assigned him a 40 grade, noting that “he could develop into a No. 4 starter.”
The Bryant trade was just one part of an extensive fire sale held by Cubs GM Jed Hoyer, who also traded Javier Baez, Anthony Rizzo, Craig Kimbrel, Jake Marisnick, Trevor Williams, Joc Pederson, Ryan Tepera, and Andrew Chafin this month.
Tim Dierkes contributed to this post.
Deadline for the ages.
Absolutely unbelievable.!
It gets crazier each and every year.
For the future Joey Bart and wade smh . Not a happy G fan . Hopefully Bryant will stay
I don’t think that’s the actual return.
Not a big fan of the Giants, but Bryant’s gonna look damn good in that uniform.
It’s Canario and Killian.
Probably no cash going to the Giants.
My bad , I heard wrong
Bart and Wade NOT involved.
#30 and # 9 prospects sent
RELAX
So we’re people trolling and it made it to Mlb network? Or did an actual reporter report it and was mistaken?
Giants have the financial space. Not really needed. Reason we didn’t have to give them high prospects.
If you don’t know what your talking about,
don’t post stupid trade proposals.
#17 is rake. Might have to change to his high school and college number 23.
there’s a bogus Jeff Passan Twitter account floating around
@Catuli Carl
And “Bryant” rhymes with “Giant.” It was meant to be.
there were a ton of fake twitters created just to mess up the beat reporters
It was reported by Fansided. Maybe is was just sloppy writing.
fansided.com/2021/07/30/mlb-trade-kris-bryant-cubs…
Mr. negative! He jumped the gun! No one human is perfect! Have a nice weekend!
It was an accidental report by a Giants beat writer. No chance a 2 month rental of ANYONE would net Bart AND Wade Jr. A fair swap for both teams. Boras won’t let KB sign an extension so it’s the epitome of a rental.
Boras can’t make his clients do anything. Indeed, some of his clients have signed extensions.
Sloppy reporting. “Jumping the gun” is not professional, especially with peoples’ lives and families being moved mid-season.
Fansided is trash. They also said the padres were leading the charge on Scherzer and kimbrel, but apparently that was a bad leak to Rosenthal cause the padres weren’t close to either of them
ermergerd…
Anybody see the video of KB finding out? The human side of baseball. Cub fans will tear up for sure.
Good luck in SF, champ!
And hey, no QO penalty to the team where you end up next year.
I think the Giants plan on extending him, and boy I sure hope they do. I’ve heard good things about both the new Cubs prospects and I liked them both, but I really liked Canario.
Yes, I think Canario is a good bet to be a valuable MLB player (perhaps in the mold of Denard Span, but with more stolen base potential and a bit better defensively.) But I don’t think Killian should be overlooked. It’s still too early to tell, but his early stats look excellent. Cubs did very well in this deal for a rental—even as good as Bryant is.
Great move by the Giants.
How so? And what do we know about who they gave up? (I know nothing.)
They gave up Canario and Killian. Solid prospects for a rental. Hopefully Giants can re-sign Bryant.
Very true. On the heels of some very quiet ones too.
NL West looking scary AF!
YES !
In Z we trust!!!
Go Giants!!!
Have been critical of Zaidi but have to give him kudos for acquiring Kris Bryant for Canario and Killian.
Bryant not only has the tools and versatility to be a big contributor … his character fits well as a Giants.
Glad to see ya comin around sir!
What a steal!
I think this is a solid deal. We needed help in left field (as Tauchman and Dickerson’s bats haven’t produced) and, Z has preserved the farm. Hopefully Bryant will catch on with the Giants “vibe,” rakes, and wants to resign in the offseason!
Not a real contender unfortunately
are u dumb
Yeah! Only the best record in baseball. That team is a joke!
1st in the NL west but hey whatevs
The team with the best record in baseball isn’t a contender? I’m not a Giants fan but that statement is ridiculous.
Statement is not as ridiculous as it sounds. The Giants really ain’t built for a playoff run. Kinda remind me of the #1-seeded Utah Jazz in the NBA. Best record in basketball 2nd round playoff exit. Giants right now are a playoff sweep candidate against a team with say Scherzer, Buehler and Kershaw coming at you. Gausman and the boys ain’t got nobody scared to get in the batters box either. You are thinking that Kris Bryant gets you over the top????? This ain’t 5 years ago. Kris Bryant is nothing more than an above average player with a big name and long injury history now.
Giants more than holding their own against the Dodgers with the division lead on the line.
Dodgers gotta get past the Friars first, in that one game playoff. The two teams play about a hundred games in a row at the end of the season. Never know.
Buehler is dominant but they will have to actually play and win the game – unless Preller just forfeits because he was outspent today.
A team with the best record in baseball, most of the starting infield injured all season, and an outfield hitting a combined .220? You’re right, they weren’t supposed to be contenders but they sure are playing like they are
The Giants . LOL
Added 1 bat and think that’s enough. They needed arms. I watched their #2 get lit up by a Triple A Dodger team last week. Dude only last 2.2 ip
You obviously don’t look into the numbers much, desclafani has NEVER pitched well against the Dodgers, you can chalk it up as a loss almost every time he goes to the mound against them. Ya they needed an arm but the team is at the end of a rebuild and in first place, that’s not supposed to happen
Excuses, excuses. Are you already prepping for the Padres to BTFO the Giants in the WC game?
padres should worry about holding of tje reds before you talk about a wc game.
Big glove:
Good point. The Padres are actually closer to losing a WC berth than they are to the division lead.
Wow you really don’t have much going on for you if you just come over here to troll all day long lol
Please stop talking, you’re embarrassing the rest of us Padres fans that aren’t clueless 12 year old idiot fanboys.
Then he shouldn’t be started in the forthcoming NLDS
Ha ha. And there it is. On cue. So much repetition….
Grow up, mate.
And yet they still went 5-2 against the dodgers the past 2 weeks. One heckuva selective memory you’ve got there.
LAD+SF are .500 against each other for the year. Bragging about anything else is hilarious
Spoiler. Good teams play .500 ball against each other. It’s statistics
Padres starters have a 6+ era since June I think
Thanks for letting us know you don’t know anything about the Giants. Their starting rotation has been a strength all year, their ERA has been in the top 5 of baseball all season long. SP was definitely an area they needed the least help.
Making a big deal out of one loss, when the Giants took 2 of 3? LOL.
I heard the the Padres won’t be selling any hot dogs at Petco tonight because the Dodgers traded for all of their buns.
Can we please get a mute button for mobile so I don’t have to see this person anymore?
You need to worry about your own team lmao
Whaaaaa!
Let’s go Cubbies trade Contreras for Sanchez next.
No. Extend him.
Blasphemy
Cubs Dynasty still in play?
Nope! That ship was torpedoed!
Rice-a-freaking-roni!
I can’t stand your name
Jed did it. Cleaned house and restocked the cupboards. Well done today. Let’s see what the Giants gave up.
I think he did great not knowing the SF return. But the other trades were excellent.
At least you get it. Needed to be done
Restocked? Seriously? Two players in return were decent. The rest….are you kidding me? No more pennants in our lifetime.
Are you 90? Otherwise, I think you got a real good chance at a pennant in that time.
Maybe he is 90. Old folks MLBTR, too.
You’re hilariously unaware
‘Hilariously Unaware” should be be the title of something…like a documentary about the human race or something. You coined it, I just supported it. Well done, brother.
I don’t often agree with ya chief, but I gotta here. I’d watch that doc!
Hilariously unaware = the human condition
I heard Werner Herzog is already attached to narrate and direct! (That’d be awesome)
Possibly Lamont Wade Jr.
I’m hearing Bart and Wade Jr
No, it is NOT Bart & Wade. That would have been a disaster for a rental. It’s Canario and Killian!
Not even close!
What a steal!
I’m shocked
Rumor, believe it or not, is Joey Bart, according to MLB.
Nope.
finally let’s go!
who did we give up?
Canario and Killian, their #9 and #30.
What’s crazy is most likely 2 of the Dodgers/Giants/Padres will be out by the championship series. That 1 game wild card is truly brutal. This has been a great deadline
@2012oriolies
“That 1 game wild card is truly brutal.”
Not as brutal as winning 103 games and not making the playoffs (1993 Giants).
That’s why La did what they did. You don’t want to be a wild card. Win 100 games and be out in an evening
Will Clark approves this trade!
I wear a will jersey everytime I goto to the park!
Wonder how much was the cost?
Pennies!!!
hell yeah
For Bart??
Hopefully not! Seems like an overpay unless Hendricks or other Cubs pieces involved.
?
Fail
Nope. No fail.
For OP
got it, thanks. my bad.
Best deadline ever
Luciano and Ramos was a heavy price to pay to get Bryant. I guess they are going for it.
No way they gave up Luciano. Ramos maybe. Thinking Ramos and Wade JR. Don’t need Bart unless Contreras is getting moved
Joey Bart? Or what?
For Bart and Wade Jr.
Canario and Killian
LOL No
My bad I was wrong. Spoke too soon, as did a respectable reporter earlier hahaha
“Respectable reporter”
No, he was a journalist from Newswatch, He doesn’t cover baseball news for a living.
“a respectable reporter”
there is no such animal
Bart and wade jr for Bryant
Lol not even close
Such a huge overpay, giving up bart and wade
They didn’t trade either of those guys.
I’m hearing Bart and Wade Jr.
Well your hearing wrong. As neither of those guys are involved.
Giants got destroyed lmao. #2 overall pick for a rental and Wade Jr
I knew it was too good to be true
Good thing it was neither of those guys
“lmao” I’ve never seen someone be so wrong. “rofl”, etc.
Jed Hoyer absolutely deee-stroyed the trade deadline.
Yes he got basically nothing.
This was his worst trade. Overall though, it’s a pretty solid haul to build with.
Joey Bart to CHC
No he is not part of the deal.
Killian and Canario reported return
This site is crashing bros
The Cubs are done for the next 5 years now
OMG Cubs got crushed. Total garbage.
What an absolutely stupid overpay! They better win it all to make this worth it.
They’re pretty good at that to be fair!
Your saying Killian and Canario is a stupid overpay?
He’s almost certainly talking about the report on MLB.Com that was saying the trade was for Joey Bart and Wade Jr.
Reporter? You mean the host of the trade deadline show Greg?
MLB.com reporting the Cubs get Joey Bart AND Lamont Wade Jr. If this is true, Z left his brain at home this morning.
Fake news sadly
Got shot down. Neither are going to Cubs
LOL no its Killian and Canario.
Not true
A funny thing happened on the way to that “Cubs dynasty”. Shame
We’re working on it now!
Win a title and compete for six years and take all those players and reload the farm. They have 130+ million to spend next season. Cubs did a fantastic job and could be back on top of the central soon.
Exactly, these deadbird fans crack me up. Good luck with that aging nonsense of a team. I guarantee we win the division again before y’all do.
Wish it was Bart and wade, but that’s what unrealistic in the first place. Overall jed did a great job, ton of money to spend next year and some very nice pieces. Could always resign whoever they want too. For me it wld be kb or Javy but either way jed did very well today. We will be back wayyy before a lot of the haters think!
But they won’t. Spend it.
You cub fans crack me up. Enjoy that team ya got now. Hehehehehe!
Giants fan here, and I think the Cubs/Jed did very well in almost all their deals. He cleaned house, has a ton of money to spend and he has a lot of young talent. Cubs fans should be happy despite losing some icons.
Yeah what’s that song called again? Go Cubs go? Makes me want to puke. Now it should be called lose Cubs lose! Hahaha
You don’t need to spend it to win it. See the rays who have been one of the most competitive teams in the last decade. Playoffs are a crapshoot anyone who makes the playoffs can win it.
90 loss seasons are in store for your cubbies next 5 years! Lol you’ll be lucky to finish .500 this year.
The Rays also have the right FO to do it
The NL West is a bloodbath
Right!? Who saw this coming?
Giants out of nowhere, this three headed monster is gonna be interesting to watch for the next few years!
Has anyone coined the word “Trivalry” yet?
(Im taking credit, as I haven’t seen it before!)
You heard it here first – the 2021 NL West, the best TRIVALRY in sports!
Alexander Canario & Caleb Killian per Alex Pavlovic
Total garbage.
Right about now you have to wonder how Wilson Contreras and Kyle Hendricks feel. They’re the last two rats on a sinking ship
Hendricks can come to San Francisco too if he’s not up to anything.
Canario and Killian for Bryant
are they any good
No. If this is true that really sucks as a Cubs fan. Canario and Killian are garbage. How do you not get Bart, Ramos OR Matos for him??
there was no way we were giving up any of those three to get Kris Bryant
True, why would you give up a good prospect for a former MVP who is still under 30 and having a great season.
Because you don’t give up too 100 prospects for rentals in today’s MLB. Those two prospects are far from garbage, you’re just upset because your expectations were so far from reality. Your entire basis for that assessment is probably about 10 seconds googling each name. Him being a former MVP has nothing to do with the trade. He’s not that player anymore and it’s for TWO MONTHS of him today, not even two months of him in 2016…
Canario and Killian are most certainly NOT “Garbage.” Bryant is a rental and wøuld not, on his own, get you Bart. Or Ramos. Or Matos.
Notice how not a single Cubs fan is excited about the return and it’s only Giants fans trying to convince Cubs fans how great these prospects are? Getting ONE borderline top 100 guy in Ramos or a not even top 100 guy in Matos is a realistic ask for a guy of Bryant’s caliber. And despite your arrogant assumption that I know nothing about those two guys you would be wrong. Please give me one example of someone who had a 35% K rate at low A as a 21 year old that went on to have a successful MLB career. I’ll wait.
A lot of people in the SF organization are high on Caleb.and Canario is going to be a major leaguer. Watch him play, youll become a fan. As an SF fan I would have preferred to trade wade over Canario. Just be patient this was a good move for all involved.
It doesn’t matter that “it’s for two months” because it was a need for the Giants. Those players aren’t worth an in prime current All Star. It is funny how every single base
@MC Tim C
You and all the Cubs fans don’t know enough to not be excited. Both of those players are very solid prospects that have very good qualities. Do some research. Also, no shot the Giants even considered giving up Bart, Ramos, or Matos for a couple months of Kris Bryant.
Yes. Killian was one of the fastest rising prospects in the Giants system and Canario is #9 in a strong farm.
He’s such a fast riser that he’s #30 in their system rankings lol. Canario is trash. The dude can’t hit. Jed just gave away KB for free.
Kilian went from 30 at the beginning of the year to pushing for a top 10 spot in mid season rankings. So yeah, that’s a fast riser.
Dude, if you can pull 2 top 30 prospects (one of which is a top 10) for 2 months of a player AND possibly re-sign him after the season you did well what are you smoking?
Canario has the tools he just needs the patience. Don’t get mad cause you can’t pull a top prospect for a rental that’s absurd! No team makes that deal. Hell the Dodgers gave up their top 2 prospects but, for multiple years of arguably the best players at their position.
Killian isn’t anywhere near the top 10. He’s #30 on MLB.com and nothing has changed. He’s utter trash. So is Canario. Giants fans are thrilled, as they should be, to get rid of two completely worthless prospects for an MVP.
If no Cubs fans are excited about this trade, it’s because the Cubs are losing a core player from their title, and the long view is hard. But saying this is a bad trade because no Cubs fan is excited is effectively saying all Cubs fans don’t understands baseball.
I guarantee you, that is not the case. It will be several years before the Cubs see the fruits of this trade, but I am sure there are Cubs fans that understand that, and that Hoyer got about as good a return as possible..
You might want to defer to Giants fans who follow their minor league players. Baseball Prospectus just bumped Kilian into their top 10 mid season rankings.
Canario is rated #9. Also just because the article depicts him as a risk at the moment doesn’t mean he doesn’t do anything else right. Also Cubs had Baez for how many years with his god awful discipline and Cubs fans adored him.
Believe Cubs will bump Killian to AAA next year and he will see the mound at Wrigley either Sept 2022 or April 2023. Garrett Crochet was a first round draft choice by the White Sox that never pitched in the minors. He is a one in a thousand example of a college level drafted player. The rest are like Killian and debut after a few seasons in the minors. Not at all alarmed that he’s 24 and in AA ball. In fact the amount of usage – only 100 innings pitched in MILB gives me confidence as it’s been proven that a pitchers workload while developing has direct connection to future arm troubles. As an example Nolan Ryan was one of the most durable pitchers of all time. He missed what would have been a few of his early seasons due to serving in the military. Giants knew Cubs were desperate to dump the rest of Bryant’s contract and we’re able to do the deal without Bart.
Neither are trash, but you’re not getting the top prospects in the org for a rental.
Canario is a good get. He had to be added to the 40 man this year to protect him from the Rule 5 draft. He is the one often targeted due to the Giants org OF depth.
Killian was drafted last year and has been a fast riser in the minors this year. He has looked very impressive. The Cubs may move him down a level.
Hoyer did well.
Canario has a Bryant level ceiling, that said it’s a reach as any prospect that he achieves it. But the comps which are always juiced because your a giants fan have been very high for Canario. And like someone said above Killian was one of the fastest rising in the system so at the very least there catching a kid harnessing his potential in a decently deep farm , I’d be happy considering you could still resign KB in the off-season but I’d doubt the Cubs could outbid the giants mainly because they are rebuilding and it wouldn’t make sense.
As a team who has lost some fan favorites it’s a tough pill to swallow, but baseball even though we know it as America’s past time, in the analytic fantasy driven stat hype world we live in I prefer to remain competitive consistently and avoid those annoying bad baseball rebuilding periods if possible. Good luck to Cubs on their retool looks like you got some strong players up the middle in Madrigal and the center fielder who’s name escapes me!
The Cubs acquire Alexander Canario and Caleb Killian from the Giants for Kris Bryant, per
@Feinsand
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Have to hand it to Hoyer – he shipped out every pending FA he was expected to.
They didn’t trade Bart smh
Hello Giants!
2 Giants prospect are heading to the Cubs Alexander Canario & Caleb Killian. It’s not Bart nor Lamont wade jr.
SF gives up Caleb Kilian and Alexander Canario
Well played Zaidi, well played.
Man and to think the Cubs play the nationals tonight.. both sold there entire teams mostly.. gonna be a bunch of fans filling out the rosters haha
WOW…Canario and Killian is a TERRIBLE return for Bryant. Just give them Bryant for free why don’t you Jed. Pathetic trade.
Canario has some talent. Not sure about Killian. canario said his goodbyes to teammates on Wednesday, so id imagine this was almost done a few days ago.
It’s about accurate in terms of value for a 2 month rental
ARE THE GIANTS OUT OF THEIR MINDS! Trading WADE JR. & JOEY BART for a rental player. Looks like the GM is still working for the Dodgers!
they would be out of there mind to do that but it looks like we gave up Canario And Caleb Killian. great deal for us, especially if we can work out a contract with Bryant.
Looks like grandma mixed her meds in your pancakes again.
Oh so kris Bryant for jd Davis didn’t go down ? Frankly I’m surprised he didn’t go to Yankees for andujar and Frazier
Good luck on that first round exit! And remind the owners wife to stop donating to right wing terrorists!
“Right wing terrorists” lol
The absolute psychosis of the American Left these days. Get another therapist or three.
Really? Wow. Ok
Let me know know the next time a mob of Bernie bros attack the capitol and try to overthrow the government…a’hem…I’ll wait.
They are terrorists.
Oh and traitors by the way!
Never forget 1/6
Terrorists you say? See Portland, I’m sure at least a few of those larpers are/were Bernie Bros.
Right, burning a liquor store in Portland is worse than breaking into the Capital, assaulting police officers, crapping in the halls, and threatening the lives of the VP and elected representatives, all while trying to stop the democratic process. Um…ok…
The completely deluded mind-state of the low-information voters of the right wing is astounding.
Not just delusional or “low information”, it’s a complete denial of reality.
That’s the first rule of any cult, especially one that idolizes that lying, cheating, pedophile, traitor!
If like 2000 rednecks can “overthrow the government”, they really need to step up the security.
“If like 2000 rednecks can “overthrow the government”, they really need to step up the security.”
You’re lacking a sense of proportionality here. Yeah, 2000 rednecks aren’t going to be able to overthrow the government, so we should give them a pass since they were unsuccessful? But what if the joint chief of staff, had less integrity than General Milley?
It’s not about being able or not. It’s about what they were told, and in their low-information world, what they believed, and what they attempted to do. Sedition, or treason, whether successful, or even without a realistic chance of success, is still an assault on our democracy. All Americans should be appalled.
And What about CHAZ/CHOP they KILLED 5 black men, and took over an entire district and instituted their own laws. That is the only INSSURECTION the recent past.
If a treasonous act isn’t punished, it’s a trial run
It’s that simple
“The absolute psychosis of the American Left these days.”
true that.
You’re the ones that deny something we all just watched happen and follow a cult based on hypocrisy.
Forgive us for trusting objective facts and reality and not whatever BS flies out of the mouths of the alarming amount of racist pedophiles that make up the MAGA leadership.
The Libs are just so crazy for supporting democracy and decency!!!
I understand that to narcissists, compassion for others seems like a ploy to control people, but to the rest of us that’s a virtue necessary for a decent human or society.
Does Ricketts have Nutting envy?
Why do the Cubs want to act like the Pirates in the 3rd biggest market?
I don’t think they will. I think it’ll be maybe one or two seasons of tankage and then they’ll spend once many of these young guys are settled in the majors. If they go the Pirates/Orioles/Tigers route and tank for years, it’ll be unjustifiable, but with so many guys hitting FA at the end if the year, it’s at least understandable.
Because they’re the Cubs! Pathetic franchise IMO.
bryant trade broke the internet as mlb tr crashed.
they were sleeping late and forgot it was East Coast time…
Stop with the Bart and Wade Jr….it isn’t neither one of them….it is Canario and Killian. You know its damn Dodger trolls saying wrong info on purpose!!
Those two sources are super sketchy with no track record but I’m not optimistic.
No Bart and no Wade!? I’ll take it!
Nice move. I hope the Giants win the division for a change of pace. So sick of the Dodgers.
Rebuild!
They might have as well traded Kyle and Wilson and just finally hit the reset button.
Well Cubs fans it will be 2026 before you sniff another playoff run, so enjoy the lean years but hey it was fun when it lasted!
Lmao I’m guessing ur a dead birds fan? Might 26 for y’all we will be back by 2023. Write it down!
71 years a Cubs fan and THIS IS A JOKE. No, the Cubs won’t be back in 23. They won’t be back in 26 either.
The Rickets family hired Hoyer and that ENDED the Cubs hopes.
The Cubs won’t win until the next GM has a chance to start over.
Hoyer is a major mistake and by the looks the Rickets ownership is too.
Not a red bird fan and just stating the obvious because to be back in contention by 2023 all these prospects need to work, and I doubt they will.
When MLB had it message board I would write about prospects all the time on the Cubs board and let me be clear I called their rise in 2015 and will tell you the earliest you will see the Cubs return to the playoff is 2025 if the front office drafts correctly and the farm produces.
The next few years the Cubs will be competing with the Pirates for last place but that is fine as long as the rebuild is like the one Theo did and results in another Championship!
They traded 9 or 10 players hard to keep track. I’d call that a pretty good reset
Contreras will likely be traded next season. Not enough of a market for catcher from contenders this year to warrant risking a lesser return.
Kilian’s numbers in MiLB are eye popping. 10K to 1BB/9. 1.79 ERA.
I mean it’s similar to an 8th grader having good numbers in 9 year old ball. You expect a guy who could almost be their father to put up good numbers.
Killian is 24. He wasn’t producing offspring as a 13 year old.
He is already 24, tall and lanky, and has thrown just 100 minor-league innings. He was very good at High-A Eugene this year and started well when promoted to AA Richmond. In his last three starts his numbers are: 15 2/3 IP, 13 H, 6 ER (3.45 ERA), 2 BB, 17 K, 1 HR.
Cub fans no so cocky now are they? How many times did we hear it’s going to be a dynasty? Year after freaking year that’s all we heard. They had one freak win in the last 113 years. And they acted like they really accomplished something. They are losers just like the fans are cocky losers. Enjoy those cubbies now losers!
Wow! You have some serious issues my man. Cubs won a WS with this group and it certainly looked promising that they might win more than one. Unfortunately it didn’t work out that way but Cubs fans are some of the most chill fans out there. Cubs are known as the lovable losers for a reason. You seem to be confusing us with Dodgers fans or Yankees fans or Cardinals fans.
I hope you’re okay.
Who hurt you? Enjoy that senior citizens Cardinals team 10 games out with bloated contracts everywhere.
Hey, the Cards picked up Jon Lester. He’s about as good as Jake Arrieta now. Mo thinks they can still win it. Only 9 games back.
(Good going getting the vax. We wouldn’t want an old guy like you dying before the Cubs beat the Cards in their next playoff series together.)
And Happ!!
Cards won more divisions pennants and World Series than cubs. Suck it cub fans. Your losers!
*you’re
Cool, why don’t you go rewatch the tapes of those, otherwise it really doesn’t matter what teams did in the past.
Something tells me you don’t have many friends. Oh, and St Louis IS boring AF.
2015, 2016, 2017 the Cubs made it to the National League Championship and won the title in 2016 and 2018, 2019, 2020 they still fielded strong teams that gave it their best, so I say that is a pretty good run!
I’d say an average run at best. Most of those play off appearances ended up with the cubs being swept away!
Lol we just stocked the hell out of our farm. What did the Cards do? Pick up Jon Lester? Lol. You’re 9 games back and still behind the REDS lol. You’re literally going to miss the playoffs and have absolutely nothing to show for it in terms of additions. LOL
(I call this piece “LOL”)
At least we won’t have to hear that pathetic puke in your mouth go Cubs go song again. Thank God!
Ya, I’m mean kiss my sister sounds better?
Someone please tell me this is a good return. At the least.
It’s not, unfortunately. It’s an absolutely terrible return for a guy of KB’s caliber. Canario is barely hitting above the mendoza line at low A. Killian has good numbers but I would expect a 36 year old at double A to have good numbers.
He’s 36? The fk?
Killian is 24.
Both have high upside. Kilian kinda came out of no where. Canario has a few years left in the minors but has a chance to be solid
It’s a fair return. It’s better than the comp pick the Cubs would have gotten had they issued a QO. And it’s probably greater than the value of the rental, since this was a seller’s market, and other teams probably made offers.
Respectfully disagree. Would MUCH rather have had the pick. At least the pick could get someone with potential. Canario sucks. Dude is striking out 35% of the time at low A!
they wouldn’t have gotten a first round comp pick.
As I understand it, it would have been a 4th round pick because the Cubs were above the Luxury Tax line last season.
Lol at mlb network saying it was Joey Bart headlining the package.
Ah, so this is why the site went down literally at the deadline. Nice move by the Giants.
The Cubs keeping Bryant and then giving him a QO to get the compensation pick would have been a lot more valuable than two guys who will never sniff the majors.
they wouldn’t have gotten a first round comp pick.
First round no, but second round yes. Assuming 2021 is the preceding season for the 2022 draft.
The big 3 are now gone from the Cubs. Too the Cubs fans out there… and this is coming from a Brewers fan, Enjoy plenty of 90 loss seasons!! Lol And what’s that song playing at wrigley, Go Cubs go? Should be titled. Lose Cubs lose, lose Cubs lose. Sorry, not sorry. Pathetic organization
Wake me when the Brewers win something.
They’ll be winning way more than the Cubs! How pathetic is it that a Big market club like the Cubs can’t hang with a small market Brewers. We’ll be playoff bound while the Cubs and the fans will be watching the Brewers play in October!! Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hahaha.
Where’s that title? ya thought so.
Enjoy that yelich contract and trading away all your aces once they start making any money. Cubs likely win before the Brewers
I love that a Brewers fan is talking smack lol. They’ve never won a world series and they’ve only made the world series one time, which they lost.
You’re a tool and the Brewers aren’t good enough to go anywhere in the post season. Congrats on squandering this gift wrapped playoff run. Call us when you win something important.
Shouldn’t the Brewers win at least one World Series before you go taunting fans of a team that has?
Your home games are away games when you play us.
Lmfao exactly and it’s not even close. Wake me up when y’all win something, oh wait that will never happen. Enjoy getting boat raced by a nl west team in the nlds loser.
Agreed brewers fan.
I remember when I had my first beer.
The biggest draw to your stadium (when you’re not playing the Cubs) is a foot race between people dressed like sausages.
Dang, SF did well here
Watch out Pirates . Here come the Cubs.
For a few seasons but the Cubs will rise again, but the Pirates will always be the team that other teams get their players from for a Championship run!
Joey Bart’s stays put….. Victory for the Giants, what an amazing trade !
No way that the Cubs were ever going to get Bart with an expiring contract rental and Bryant’s hefty salary. I think it did help the Giants that Bryant was acquired at tail end of the deadline. Other bidders got their guys and Cubs wanted to make sure that they dealt Bryant. Good deal for the Giants.
Wow. Needed to get a lot more than that for Bryant. Nice job, Jed. You leave it to the last minute and this is what happens.
they got exactly what they deserved. Sold off the best available 3rd baseman, Reliever and a dynamic 2nd baseman and got a HS OF’r with promise, a twice injured 2nd baseman with 10 grade power, a gas can reliever that could turn it around and this trade. NICE rebuild start.
I like many of the other trades, but this one was a let down. Should have packaged him with Davies or Wisdom to get a better haul. I know it’s a rental, but Kris Bryant is one of the best 3rd basemen in baseball. Seems like he settled with 15 minutes left before the deadline.
This is the best part of the whole article
“Cubs fans might be disappointed to see a Bryant trade fail to return a top 100 prospect”
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Loser
Bryant is a nice acquisition for the Giants, but he doesn’t move the needle much. Healthy, he is great, but he is fragile. That said, I see the Giants in the WC game. The Giants needed to do something, though, and this is a good move.
I’ll never understand the Cubs. There’s no reason for them to sell off parts. Bizarre. And they’ll still draw well, so there’s no reason to knock themselves out.
“No reason to sell off” how high are you. These guys are on expiring contracts and have a 0% chance to make the playoffs, sell!
You are right…I forgot about the Cubs’ poverty.
Basically just a pure salary dump for the Cubs. They’d have been better off paying Bryant the rest of the season then taking the comp pick after a QO.
Completely agree. 1st round comp pick is waaaaay better than an 8th round pick and a guy who can’t hit.
They wouldn’t have received a 1st round comp pick since they are luxury tax payers the past 2 seasons. They would’ve received a 4th round pick if they kept Bryant, extended him a QO and he signed elsewhere.
Even though the Cubs aren’t in the luxury tax this season?
That’s what I was thinking. Cubs won’t be paying luxury tax this season so won’t any penalties be reset?
I believe so, I referenced this post from the site:
mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/qualifying-offer-value-…
It states “A draft pick after Round 4 will be awarded if the team losing the free agent paid luxury tax penalties in the preceding season.” The preceding season would be 2020 in this case right?
If I’m interpreting that incorrectly, they still wouldn’t get a pick after Round 1 since they do not receive revenue sharing. They would get a draft pick after Competitive Balance Round B, which is after the second round.
Preceding season for next year’s draft would be 2021 wouldn’t it?
He would sign after the 2021 season making 2020 the preceding season.
Still sounds like 2021 to me. The 2021 season will have ended. That makes it the preceding season. I’m sure if they ever agree on a new CBA it will be crystal clear.
Possibly, regardless the point was they wouldn’t have received a pick at the end of the first round if they kept him and extended a QO.
As a Reds fan; this has been a sneaky good deadline even w/o a ton of moves & love this trade to top it off!!
Makes the Giants stronger & they play the Brewers 7 more times this year, plus they’re going to be in a battle in the West so they have to play well & the Cubs are basically relegated to a triple A team..
32 of the Reds final 59 games
13 vs the Pirates
7 vs Marlins
6 vs Cubs
4 vs Nationals
2 vs Twins
Let’s go Giants beat up on Brewers & Padres
I was nervous has @#@# waiting out this deadline – would Zaidi go all in? Would he trade Bart like everyone thought? Would he stand still and hope the vets come back from the IL? Every five minutes I was refreshing this page and then the hour I’m away from my desk this happens. It’s not Max and Turner, but it’s pretty great seeing Bryan coming in with what is presumably a steal of a trade and picking up Watson to add a veteran lefty to the pen.
I believe in Zaidi.
Yeah that was a good pickup for the price. He fleeced Jed on that one.
Caleb Kilian has great numbers in minors
The Dodgers playing guys like Neuse, Raley and McKinney.. That will change soon. Bryant is a nice addition, but that doesn’t compare to what the Dodgers have coming…both in acquisitions and players returning from the IL.
Dodgers are getting some turbulence with Seager and Turner and too many starters than may have bench roles…well see how that is handled
That is just fan speculation. The Dodgers have shown they can manipulate a roster well.. I highly doubt the Dodgers would trade for Turner if they didn’t have a reason to do so. Even with Seager potentially returning, the addition of Turner is huge. I think a big contract to keeping guys like Seager, Bellinger and Kershaw is in the plan. I just hope they add Taylor to that spending spree.
I figured that the Dodgers were looking to get a RH bat, but never did I imagine that it was going to be Trea Turner.
That wasn’t worded good by me at the end of my thought time.
I wonder how many big contracts Friedman will give out. Bellinger is playing out of one but he has all of next year to recover. I’m not sure if they give both Seager and Kershaw big contracts. At this point Kershaw would have to take less and less term. And if Trea Turner is around that gives the Dodgers more options if Seager demands too much. But for the machine to keep working you need to replenish with young cheap talent, as more players are moving to their UFA contract year. Need some more farm guys to step up and play a bigger role. Still have May, Gonsolin, Smith, Urias, Buehler, etc.
No. C Smith, 1B Muncy, 2B T Turner, SS Seager, 3B J Turner, LF Pollock, CF Bellinger, RF Betts. Taylor will play basically everyday as he flexes at every position to give other players a day off except C and 1B. T. Turner can play SS on days off for Seager. Pujols will come off the bench and one offs against lefties start at 1B. Muncy can move around on days he starts against lefties. A lot of flexibility. Not playing guys like McKinney, Peters, Raley, Rechs, Neuse, etc. is huge. Those guys are easy outs and really hurting the offense.
Also, Muncy hits lefties like a beast. Good points, mlbdodgerfan2015. Even if Bellinger doesn’t turn it around this season, he is an asset on defense. Bottom line…the Dodgers are stacked.
Yes, Bellinger’s CF defense alone is worth having him in the lineup but maybe you drop him to #8. You don’t even have guys like Beaty and McKinstry playing so frequently like they have been. They are back to their intended roles, bench players and pinch hitters.
The Giants have a bunch of starting players on the DL right now and still took 5 of 7… moot point.
The fact you have to brag about a 7 game subset of a portion of a season says a lot about your confidence
If the Dodgers get healthy, they SHOULD be the #1 team in baseball, but that’s been the story all season. Giants are truly way ahead of schedule on their rebuild and won’t be upset even if the Giants come in third. Fact is they have played better baseball up until the deadline. Good job by that team
Who is left at the cubs and nationals rosters….well nationals still have soto.
The leftover players on the nats (minus soto) looks like the long island ducks roster right now
Cubs still have Contreras. That’s about it.
Who the hell is still on the Cubs lineup currently? They traded everyone
Ryne Sandberg and Andre Dawson may be coming out of retirement
I imagine one of the writers will eventually do a summation of the deadline because so much happened so fast I haven’t followed very well on the price tags of some of these notable players that were traded. Looks like I’ll have some good analysis reading after work tonight.
This is a 21 year old in A ball and a 24 year old in A+. You gotta believe the Cubs messed this one up.
Big time. Waited too long and got desperate. First round pick would have been better.
I don’t think they would have gotten a comp pick due to them exceeding the luxury tax in consecutive years.
Well that makes me feel a little better.
I think they would have been picks between 2nd and 3rd rounds, about #75 overall.
The clubhouse managers for both the Cubs and the Nats will be handing out, “Hello my name is…” stickers before the next few games.
So I hear the Brewers were shut out of any discussions by some of the top players. Nice to hear this considering they have a legitimate chance this year.
What? Why in the world would they be selling? They’re in first place by a wide margin.
Well , at least Ricketts now has money to donate to Trump’s next political campaign…
Hopefully Desantis
Tanking Cubs at it again smh
Reading through these comment sounds like JD Davis would have been an overpay for Bryant and i was thinking it was going to be Davis plus maybe a Kilome and/or Szapucki.
Cubs are not going to be competitive next year. It’s gonna be rough! I feel bad for David Ross. He’s going to have to manage a big losing team next year and have to somehow hold onto his job going forward. A tall task.
Not his fault and Jed knows that. I don’t think his job is at stake. I think they’ll give him a chance at winning when the team is rebuilt.
Ya..this is why teams are so desperate these days NOT to go over the luxury tax because it obliterates your QO compensation pick from a 2nd rounder to a 4th rounder. It’s not just about the money and taxes….
Fans don’t understand that. They don’t want to. It’s easier to say spend spend spend while drooling on themselves.
Cubs probably won’t be competitive next year but if they are smart they can be extremely competitive by 2023. They will have a payroll of maybe 50 million dollars going into the season. 100 million + dollars can fill a lot of holes. A few strategic free agent signings next year and a wave of prospects should be coming by 2023 and beyond.
People need to keep in mind that the Cubs had no leverage in this. They would only get a end of 4th round pick as a QO for Bryant because of Chicago market size and exceeding the luxury tax in 2020. Teams knew this and adjusted their offers accordingly. The fact that this went down to the wire tells you the Cubs exhausted all possibilities and took the best offer they could get.
The reason Baez got more back is because he was packaged with Trevor Williams and CASH. Plus Pete Crow Armstrong is no longer a top 100 prospect, maybe not even a top 200 prospect after his season ending shoulder surgery.
The reason Kimbrel netted Madrigal is he is controlled for an additional year and is arguably the best reliever in baseball. Completely different situation.
For all the people ripping the Cubs for getting a #9 & #30 in exchange for Bryant (rental), I’ll remind them that Bryan Reynolds was the Giants #5 prospect when they traded him to Pittsburgh for McCutchen (rental). These guys might blossom into something?
Damn the Cubs tapped the hell out! Got to love that
Great job Farhan way to pull a rabbit out of your ass! Would have been nice to get a closer and another starter but getting Bryant will make the Giants better and didn’t sell the farm to do it. I hate you a little less after this and if you can end up signing Bryant after this year I may actually start to appreciate you!
Fantastic trade by SF. Gave up nothing and got a stud. Even if it’s only for two months they still gave up nothing. Impressive.
Totally agree. Reminds me a little of when the Dodgers traded for Machado. I hope Bryant doesn’t ask for Machado money or else its a no go for resigning him. This off-season will be the true test for Farhan since he will have money to spend and a lot of holes to fill
Nothing is quite the overstatement
yes, a little puzzling considering what some other rentals went for-
though a much bigger name, Bryant can kind of function as the Giants version of Chris Taylor, who has similar offensive production this year and the great positional versatility.
Cubs: America’s new favorite team. They gave every fan base a present or two this year.
This deadline left me completely bewildered. I did not come close to predicting any of these trades, even after there were rumors about them
What an insane deadline. The Kimbrel trade was particularly baffling. So much movement when it will be LA vs TB yet again. The White Sox took two steps back (and before someone starts saying they’re playing to win now, why? They’re not good enough to win this year)
I love the addition but damn they needed starting pitching!!!!!!!!
Great trade for the Giants and a great landing spot for KB. He improves an already well balanced team. Best of luck to him.
At least Farhan has made better trades than Bobby Evans ever did.
Cubs front office are morons.
How did they not demand Bart?
See, this is how darling clubs like the Yankees, Red Saux, Dahyers and Giaints get over on the rest of the league: they are gifted a pipeline of star players while still keeping their best prospects. The coastal teams are teeming with talent while the rest of the league flounders. It’s REALLY suspect, and if the MLB’s not careful, they’ll start losing more and more fan interest.
so….the midwest Cubs are in on this conspiracy, too?
Just like Scherzer alone would not have gotten Ruiz from LA, you don’t trade top MLB ready catching prospects for rentals. Not anymore
Feel bad for Bryant…he cried when he found out he was headed to the nastiest city in CA. Who would want to play and live there anymore?
Salty
Good deal for both sides, Cubs will be able to give the prospects time to develop as they’re probably not going to compete in 2022 and Bryant should boost the Giants lineup to new heights.
The cubs weren’t good with all those guys so maybe things can’t get much worse. Boo hoo cubs fans are crying but we lost are stars. They weren’t that good anyway and still a fluke they won a World Series with that group anyway. More like the blind squirrel finds an acorn every 100 years or so.