The Giants announced they’ve placed outfielder Mike Tauchman on the 10-day injured list due to a right knee sprain. To replace him on the active roster, San Francisco reinstated fellow outfielder Jaylin Davis from the 60-day IL. A 40-man roster spot for Davis’ activation was opened when right-hander Gregory Santos was suspended for performance-enhancing drugs earlier this week.
Tauchman is only expected to miss 10-14 days, as his sprain is relatively minor, the team told reporters (including Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle). Upon his return, the 30-year-old will need to perform better than he has in recent weeks. The Giants acquired Tauchman from the Yankees in April, but the left-handed hitter has only managed a .180/.292/.295 line in 161 plate appearances in black and orange. Tauchman is out of minor league option years, so the Giants will need to continue to keep him on the active roster once he returns from the IL or make him available to other clubs.
The activation is a nice birthday present for Davis, who turns 27 years old today. He’ll be making his season debut once he gets into a game. Davis has been sidelined all year by right knee tendinitis. The powerful right-handed hitter hasn’t done much over 59 major league plate appearances to date, but he’s mashed at a .329/.412/.709 clip in 357 trips to the dish at Triple-A.
The Giants also provided an update on injured first baseman Brandon Belt. He’ll attempt to rehab from the right knee inflammation that sent him to the IL last week (via Andrew Baggarly of the Athletic). Surgery, which would’ve sidelined Belt for eight-to-twelve weeks, had been on the table, but there’s a realistic chance for the 33-year-old to return without going under the knife. There’s no timetable for his return, but Baggarly notes he’ll be “definitiely” be back in less than two months if all goes well.
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At least he stays on the ML roster for ten days more at least, albeit the injured listm
The ped suspension and Tauchman knee injury were really well timed (relatively speaking). Makes me imagine an evil, cartoon mustache Zaidi sprinkling something in Santos’ cereal and tying Tauchman’s shoelaces together. They were going to have to lose someone off their 40 man and now get a couple extra weeks of evaluation.
With that being said, couple bad breaks for Santos and Tauchman. Hope they both come back strong when clean/healthy.
The Giants. LOL
The *first place Giants. LOL
Not for long. Lol!
Don’t get too excited. Giants have been the top team in the West for most of the year.
They’ve had the best record in baseball pretty much throughout the first half of the year. They were first to 50 wins by multiple days
Not sure how you can still write them off, other than you’re afraid to admit there’s two teams the Padres are competing with in the NLW
Padres? More like the Madres
I’d like to hear again why the Yankees are missing a .180 hitter so much…
Not sure but they must love them because they just traded to acquire one in Locastro. who is actually rating as a worse player than Tauchman
DarkSide830:
Please, that horse is dead and you can stop beating it anytime.
First of all, that was about as minor a trade as you can get with ML players. Too much was made of it. Only so-so talent was exchanged
Second, Tauchman’s time in SF is a small sample.
Third, Tauchman is much more suited to hitting at Yankee Stadium than Oracle. His numbers were bound to look worse playing in a park that’s notoriously bad for LHHs.
And lastly, what he has done is underrated. He grinds ABs, seeing a lot of pitches, which may pay off for others later on. And his defense has been exceptional.
While I would love to see Davis break out, and take Tauchman’s job away from him, I can still appreciate what he’s contributed.
For a so-so talent, you sure give Tauchman a sparkling review.
As a poster you like to exaggerate. Sparkling review? Wow you’re apparently easy to impress as well.
Thank God! I get he’s a good defensive player with speed, but where’s the offensive consistency? Giants should DFA him, as Duggar is a better player. Give Tauchman’s spot to Heliot Ramos.
Ramos is OPSing under .700 in AA.
Yeah I know he’s having a down year in Richmond, but I’d like to see the Giants start giving some of these guys a look versus Farhan trying to find guys off the scrap heap. Although Farhan’s track record thus far has been impressive, it’s been a truly long time since the Giants produced a homegrown outfielder of note.
Maybe Ramos can turn it around — or maybe not? I think though it would add some interesting storylines and wrinkles to the current construction of the team.
The Eastern league is well-known to be more pitcher-friendly than anywhere else in the minors.
That line may be ugly, but my gosh he’s a great defensive outfielder
Farhan Zaidi is a lot smarter than I am. That he sent Wade down despite him really showing something, which surprised me, to keep Tauchman on the roster, is telling.
Tauchman will be first to go when there’s a real roster crunch and there’s nobody, that’s not deemed too valuable, with options left. But he still contributes overall, and it’s been enough for Zaidi to try and keep him.
I think the reason Tauchman was left on the roster is he is out of options. Tauchman made an amazing play on Pujols, and a few other really good defensive plays. But do not forget in the game he recently went 1-6, he was one strike away from striking out six times in that game before he had that home run.
He has very limited power IMO, if he’s not striking out, he peppers the second baseman with grounders. Steven Duggar is probably the closest comparison on our roster to him, and Duggar is a far superior player to him frankly. I think we can agree to agree though that when the roster starts to get tight — he most likely will be the first to go.
Giantsfan775:
Well, obviously Wade was the one sent down, because he had options and Tauchman did not. What I was referring to was about Zaidi’s decision. A lot of Giants fans wanted Wade to be kept on the roster, with Tauchman being waived.
Despite Tauchman’s struggles, there was no way he clears waivers. My point was that Zaidi decided that Tauchman was worth keeping. To the extent that, in an unpopular move, Wade was sent down.
There’s no argument that Tauchman is slumping. But again, my point was, despite the bad numbers, he contributes enough in other ways, that Zaidi is doing what he can to keep him on the roster. I don’t believe he would do that if there wasn’t evidence that Tauchman’s contribution is positive.
I’d also like to add that if the decision was between someone like Dickerson, or Duggar, both of whom have an option left, if I’m not mistaken, Zaidi may have elected to let Tauchman go, as I think he probably sees them as more needed on the roster than Wade.
I am curious to know one thing. Please tell me one thing that Tauchman brings that Duggar does not? I agree with your assessment as to why Wade was sent down. I also agree that Tauchman would be claimed by another team.
The intangibles that Tauchman may bring in my opinion are not enough to keep him on the team. I would however, very much make that argument for Curt Casali — even though his bat is also awful. But the way he is with the pitching staff, not to mention the number of shutouts he has already caught this year is most likely more than most starting catchers in the league.
Tauchman however…I just don’t see it.
Why are you comparing Tauchman to Duggar? All my posts have mostly been about what it means that Zaidi chose to keep Tauchman on the roster by sending Wade down. What’s that got to do with Duggar?
As I said in an earlier post, if it was between Dickerson, Duggar and Tauchman, I think Tauchman is probably the odd man out, despite the other two still having options.
But that is beside the point. My point continues to be that Zaidi is much smarter than I am, and he’s done what he can to retain Tauchman. Obviously their analytics dept. believes that Tauchman’s contributions are worth keeping him on the roster. It doesn’t have anything to do with Duggar.
You don’t think that Tauchman’s intangibles are worth keeping him. Fine. That’s your opinion. But Zaidi believes otherwise, and I trust Zaidi to make the right decision more than I do you.
My point in comparing the two is simply illustrating Tauchman brings nothing unique to the table, and therefore it would be my opinion that he should go.
But you are right. Farhan is smarter than you, (and I) and for reasons unbeknownst to me, he continues to keep Tauchman with the club. Perhaps the analytics department loves him? But no matter how you want to look at it, a .180 BA/.292 OBP/.295 SLG are sorry AF for a major league outfielder seeing the amount of playing time he does.
“ My point in comparing the two is simply illustrating Tauchman brings nothing unique to the table, and therefore it would be my opinion that he should go.”
You could not be more wrong, honestly. Tauchman brings absolutely elite OF defense. Did you know he’s 5th best in defensive runs saved for OFers In 2021 despite having between 50-150 fewer innings than EVERYONE above him?
He’s also 6th best in DRS for OFers since 2019 and 11th best OF since 2018. That is why he keeps a roster spot
Just because he doesn’t bring specific offensive skills does not mean he brings nothing unique to the table. That’s laughably wrong and I’m a dodger fan
This is what “Makes Zaidi smarter than tad”. Defense wins games
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@tab, I agree wholeheartedly with your multi-post assessment of Tauchman. I love his glove (a few game saving catches thus far), his work ethic (I hear he’s working his tail off with the hitting staff) and on occasion, he hits a game winning home run. I also agree that with a potential roster crunch coming, he’s the likeliest OF to go. However, maybe Z is holding onto him for his potential trade value as the deadline approaches. I think he’d get claimed off waivers pretty fast, and if I’m right, he could be part of a trade package that lands us an impact-now right handed bat!!
I still don’t see the point in comparing one player to another that’s better than he is, and using that as a reason to let the lesser guy go. It’s like comparing AJ Pollock to Mookie Betts, and saying Pollock isn’t as good so the Dodgers should replace him.
Just because Duggar brings more to the table does not mean Tauchman has zero value.
Bro, Tauchman is hitting .180. He may be a nice defensive replacement. Offensively, he is a joke. The Giants IMO should let him go. Sorry if this offends you lol.
Dude. I’m not offended, far from it. But I would guess from the tone of your post that maybe you are. And if not, you clearly don’t like people disagreeing with you.
I can’t seem to get you to understand that Duggar has nothing to do with Tauchman. If you want to compare players, make it relevant like between Tauchman and Wade. The fact that Duggar is better than Tauchman is completely irrelevant.
And as most people with more than a cursory interest in baseball know, BA alone is a terrible yardstick. He is not a joke, even if he isn’t hitting right now. For one thing he forces more pitches out of opposing pitchers than anyone else on team. That pays dividends for all the Giants hitters.
If Zaidi sees value in Tauchman I trust that he’s right. But if you think you’re smarter about baseball than Zaidi then I have to strongly disagree.
You are amusing. You cannot get me to understand about Tauchman and Duggar? My point is this why have both players if they are in relatively the same mold as a player. Similar example, the Giants just recalled Jaylin Davis. He’s a very similar player to Ruf in his skill sets, no?
My points for the final time, is that it doesn’t make a ton of sense to have multiple guys with the same skill sets if one is clearly out-producing the other. Why keep an extra roster spot dedicated to someone like that? In the example of Ruf and Davis I would much prefer Ruf given his moderate successes off the bench.
Frankly, I don’t care if you disagree with me. In fact, I value others perspectives and logic.
I disagree completely with you about Tauchman works the most pitches out of any player on the team. Belt is better, Wade is better, Posey, Crawford, etc. That’s not to say Tauchman doesn’t work the count… that he does. I just think other guys are clearly better when it comes to doing that.
I would compare Wade and Tauchman, but Wade separates himself with his infield play. If Tauchmann also played in the infield I would make that comparison versus Duggar.
Clearly Zaidi sees some kind of value in Tauchman. I would speculate that would be purely defensive, as his offensive numbers are terrible.
Because I have an opinion about the Giants does not make me think that I am smarter than Farhan. Nor do I think that I should be in the front office making organizational decisions. This is the second time that you have directly referenced Farhan and I. Bro, that is a WAY more ridiculous comparison than Duggar and Tauchman.
This is ridiculous. You are apparently the only person who believes teams shouldn’t have multiple players with the same skill set. Are teams supposed to have 13 position players with 13 different skill sets? Besides, they don’t have the exact same skill set. Tauchman hits LHPs better than RHPs, and, Wade doesn’t have a single hit against a LHP in his career. An absurd argument.
You can disagree all you want about who sees more pitches, but what the facts say, and what you believe, are not the same. In fact, the stats say you are completely wrong. Here are the pitches per PA stats courtesy of BB Ref:
Ruf, 4.65
Tauchman, 4.58
Belt, 4.40
Duggar, 4.16
Casali, 4.13
Slater, 4.05
Wade 4.04
Longoria, 4.03
Ruf is the only better than Tauchman in getting pitches.
Try and rationalize your opinion as being valid all you want. But clearly you and Zaidi see Tauchman differently. I probably would have agreed with you before seeing Zaidi do what he could to keep Tauchman on the team. Seeing that Zaidi likes Tauchman, caused me to see the situation differently.
Fantastic reference numbers. I do not necessarily believe that there should be all these different skill set position players. However, I will NEVER be keen on a scrub who hits .180. I don’t care how many pitches he sees, I don’t care what kind of defense he plays. He cannot hit the ball.
The absurd argument is to say that Tauchman hits ANYONE well. Wade has tons of room for improvement – no doubt. Tauchman though has had nice moments this season. But EVERY single time I watch him hit, he strikes out, or he grounds out to 2B. Occasionally he will get a cheap home run, but he is currently at 4 home runs if I’m not mistaken?
In his stats for both the Yankees and Giants this year, he has struck out 52 times versus 22 walks. Furthermore, 28 hits in 153 at bats? Cmon that is atrocious! Are you going to really sit here and say that you would prefer to see Tauchman continue to butcher at bats, albeit while playing great defense. Instead of seeing the Giants future? Be it Bart, Luciano, Ramos, etc.?
I understand analytics grade Tauchman relatively positive. However, you still have to be able to get on base to score runs. Mike Schmidt wrote an interesting op-ed on Yahoo either last week or the week before, where he talks about guys not being able to hit for average anymore and how the game is now so geared toward launch angles/strikeouts. Whereas it generates excitement amongst players and fans alike, it is coming at the cost of batting averages and on base percentages. An interesting read if you can find it.
I would have to say that i am in relative agreement with Schmidt’s assessment. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy seeing the uptick in home runs, but I also think that the game is becoming too dependent on analytics.
I actually met Tony Gwynn years ago at a baseball camp. I was lucky enough to be able to have about a 15 minute conversation with him. Gwynn explained to me that he had an imaginary box of which he considered the strike zone. He explained that he rarely ever went outside of his box, and when he did he pulled the ball to right field.
Gwynn and Bonds are probably the greatest hitters that I have ever seen live. Guys don’t approach with the Gwynn mentality anymore, and I think that someone like a Tauchman would be a far better player if he had a similar approach. I think Tauchman too often tries to yank the pitch he’s given rather than going with what the pitcher gives him.
Farhan and I will NEVER see eye to eye on Tauchman (at least until he’s DFA’d) but hopefully the Giants continue to win.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I never argued that Tauchman was a good hitter. I only pointed out that stats show Tauchman can hit a LHP better than Wade. And also said, Zaidi is smarter than I am, so I trust that there is some value there that Zaidi feels makes him worth keeping.
Funny, you list a bunch guys you say are better at getting pitches out of a pitcher, so when stats prove you to be wrong, you shift gears to not caring about, what I believe, to be a positive asset. And I’ll bet Zaidi cares about that too.
You say you don’t think you’re smarter than Zaidi, and yet you say you “…will NEVER see eye to eye on Tauchman…” with him. So, in reality, on this issue anyway, you do think you’re smarter than him. This is the crux of our disagreement. I know he’s much smarter about baseball than I am, so I trust that Tauchman is worth keeping, even if it isn’t obvious to me.
Who cares that Tauchman sees 4.58 pitches in an at-bat? Does he ever get on base? What a talented offensive asset he is for the Giants. Lmfao. Farhan keeps him for now — but I seriously doubt he will be on the Giants roster by the end of the year.
So I was wrong on who sees more pitches. I admit it. Does this appease you, bro? You seem to be getting really triggered about this conversation, and it is making me bust out laughing.
And again, so Tauchman sees more pitches than everyone I listed. Tell me this, who does he have a higher batting average or on-base percentage than on the entire team? I’ll wait… He is expendable by the end of the year. He is a turd that Farhan can’t polish.
No Freud, I don’t think I’m smarter than Zaidi. Now it is YOU who are putting words in my mouth. Mike Tauchman is a God-awful offensive baseball player. Darren Lewis is an all-time great defensive player that the Giants enjoyed for a few years — Tauchman is not even close to being half the player Darren Lewis was.
Dude, could you contradict yourself more? Your own words:
“Farhan and I will NEVER see eye to eye on Tauchman…”
I didn’t put those words in your mouth, you did. My words:
“So, in reality, on this issue anyway, you do think you’re smarter than (Zaidi).”.
You’re trying to convince me, and, I guess yourself as well, that saying Zaidi is wrong about Tauchman, and that you are right, doesn’t mean you don’t think you’re smarter on this issue?
Wow. You’re a piece of work I’ll grant you that. But it does seem to me that you’re the one getting your nose out of joint. Describing yourself as laughing, while using hyperbolic language is not very convincing. Clearly, you just need to relax.
How does me not agreeing with Farhan on Mike Tauchman make me smarter than Farhan? I never said I was smarter than Farhan. But somehow in your very narrow mind, you want to believe this? Are people not allowed to disagree with others, and arrive at their own conclusions? Okay weirdo lol.
Actually, I could really care less if I convince you. I don’t need to convince myself because Tauchman’s stats tell me exactly what I need to know. Analytics are mildly important, but they do not control the game or outcomes completely. As I said in my previous post you still need to get on base to score runs. Tauchman can’t do that. And by the way, if the Yankees so desperately needed left-handed hitting – why trade him? Maybe because he sucks?
You are so ridiculous lol. I’m getting my nose out of joint? How is that? I am a piece of work because I don’t agree with you? Why don’t you go cry about it? LMFAO.
You think you are like some psychological professional having access to random people’s minds with whom you engage in moronic debates on the internet? You are a clown homie. Lmfao.
Yeah, whatever dude.
Bye Tauchman’s boyfriend. I’ll miss you!
I realize now I must be arguing with a 12-year-old.
“Bye Tauchman’s boyfriend. I’ll miss you!”
Really? That’s pathetic..
Does that make you triggered? Lol
No, just sad that I wasted so much time disagreeing with some puerile poster, who now only seems to want to trade insults. No thanks.
I don’t believe you. You don’t want to trade insults, but yet you open by calling me puerile? Hmmm… doesn’t quite pass the smell test buddy.
Also, why not just dip? Why keep responding when you know what’s coming?lol
You should really go back and look at your comments. You have such a victim mentality. Why are you venting at me, and not your therapist? You seem to have a really hard time disengaging from this conversation. For as much as I’m sure you’d like to claim otherwise.
Go take a few deep breaths, and crawl back into your safe space bro.lol
Good news no Belt. Sorry Tauchman got hurt, but I’m glad to see him out of the lineup. When he and Casalli are both starting along with the pitchers spot, that’s pretty much 3 automatic outs.
Yeah, it’s awesome to not have Belt’s 142 wRC+ in the lineup anymore…
Not to mention Belt probably has the best batting eye on the team and draws a lot of walks.
And his elite defense surely won’t be missed either…
Did you mean good news ‘on’ Belt ?
I’m really interested on who Zaidi is eyeing to improve this team? Outfielder, bullpen, starter?
Does he really believe this current roster can win the NL West?
I don’t see them depleting any of their top tier prospects, but I can see them taking on a contract to acquire a proven stud? Almost all of their contracts fall off after this year. Their checkbook will be wide open.
Either way, it’s exciting to see what will happen and to be a Giants fan right now.
The catch that Tauchman made on Pujols would-be homer is the current difference between SF and LA for first place.
For now. But it’s July 1. A lot of season yet to go.
Why do you get 40 man roster relief for a suspended player?
Why would you punish a team twice? First you’re removing the player, then you think the roster spot should vanish too? Often for things done off the field?
Seems a bit off
That’s exactly what they’re doing for “sticky stuff” violations. Soooooooooooo………..
Santiago is still appealing. We have no idea what they’re doing for this spider tack turned to rosin witch hunt
Tauchman has provided great outfield defense; including highlight reel catches. His bat isn’t even near the Mendoza Line and can’t be depended on to come through when needed.
Steve Phillips and CJ Nitkowski (MLB Network) predicted this morning by 07/15/2021 the Giants would be in 3rd place in NL West (behind Los Angeles and San Diego).
July is here and the Giants are now on a 4 game losing streak (1/2 game lead over Dodgers and 2.5 games over Padres). They’re either pressing or need an immediate jolt. Zaidi needs to be aggressive now and not wait until 07/31/2021 to address areas of obvious concern.
—- 2nd base continues to be a problem. Kansas City’s Whit Merrifield could be both a defensive and offensive solution.
—- Minnesota’s Jose Berrios and Taylor Rogers could be good options.
Merrifield, Berrios, and Rogers are guys that could help just about every team out there. But there’s not much hope that Merrifield or Berrios can be had. The price for either would need to be exorbitant to convince their teams to move them.
Rogers is more likely, but with so many teams looking for bullpen help, he won’t come cheap. It would be fun to unite the twins.
Aaron Nola can be had and Jean Segura better than that other slop.
Typical Kapler team by August the will be out of it.Even pitchers with sticky can’t help.Andrew Bailey Pitching coach should be fired or suspended for supplying the
pitchers.Oh that’s right Bonds did it for years.CHEATERS just like the Astros
Bob333:
While you have your crystal ball out, please tell us more about what will happen in the future.
Also, are you suggesting that just about every other team did not have pitchers using the sticky stuff? That other pitching coaches weren’t advocating its use? And that PED use was not widespread when Bonds was playing?
So you think the Giants, should be regarded as part of a two team group of cheaters, along with the Astros? Wow, are you ever hugely biased, as well as pathetically naïve.