In a stunning deadline blockbuster, the Dodgers acquired stars Max Scherzer and Trea Turner from the Nationals. In exchange, Los Angeles sent back four prospects, including two of the top young talents in baseball. Catcher Keibert Ruiz, right-handers Josiah Gray and Gerardo Carrillo, and outfielder Donovan Casey are go to Washington. Scherzer waived his no-trade rights to facilitate the deal.
It had become clear in recent days the Nationals were likely to trade Scherzer, but the saga took its share of twists and turns along the way. The division-rival Padres were reportedly close to landing the three-time Cy Young award winner earlier in the afternoon. Other teams — the Dodgers among them — lurked on the periphery, though, and Los Angeles jumped in as the Nationals’ talks with San Diego never got across the finish line. In the process, the Dodgers also add one of the game’s best position players as part of a jaw-dropping package deal.
Scherzer is one of the best pitchers of his generation, and the future Hall of Famer has continued to pitch at a level close to peak form. He’s tossed 111 innings across nineteen starts, working to a 2.76 ERA/3.59 FIP. He’s given up a few home runs (1.46 HR/9), but Scherzer’s strikeout and walk numbers are still among the game’s best. The eight-time All-Star has punched out 34.3% of batters faced while handing out free passes to a meager 6.5% of opponents. Among starters with 50+ innings pitched, only Jacob deGrom, Tyler Glasnow, Patrick Sandoval and Shane Bieber have generated swinging strikes at a higher clip than Scherzer’s 16.5% mark.
It’s the continuation of what was a remarkable tenure in Washington. Signed to a seven-year, $210MM deal over the 2014-15 offseason, the right-hander entered today’s outing with a 2.80 ERA/2.91 FIP across 1223 innings for the Nats. That deal proved to be one of the most successful free agent investments in recent memory. Scherzer won back-to-back NL Cy Young awards in 2016-17 and was selected to the All-Star game six times, with the lone exception due to the cancelation of last year’s festivities. Perhaps most importantly, Scherzer was integral to the Nationals’ 2019 World Series title, tossing 30 frames of 2.40 ERA ball during that year’s postseason run.
Scherzer now joins a rotation that already includes Walker Buehler and is expected to soon welcome back Clayton Kershaw from the injured list. That trio would make for an incredible top three in any postseason series, to say nothing of the presence of David Price and Tony Gonsolin as options for a fourth game and/or multi-inning work out of the bullpen. (Trevor Bauer remains on administrative leave after being accused of assault; it’s not clear if/when he’ll return to the team this season).
Of course, the Dodgers still need to solidify their chances of making a playoff series to unleash that three-headed monster in October. The Dodgers are almost certain to make the playoffs in some capacity, but the Giants somewhat surprisingly remain three games up on them in the NL West race. The competition at the top of the division from San Francisco and San Diego could leave the Dodgers staring down a one-game playoff. Acquiring Scherzer gives Los Angeles another ace to potentially take the ball in a Wild Card game, but it also increases their odds of winning the division and avoiding the contest altogether.
Incredibly, Scherzer is likely the second-most valuable part of the Dodgers’ haul. While Scherzer’s slated to hit free agency at the end of this season, Turner is controllable through 2022 via arbitration and every bit as productive. Turner has been a quality player since breaking into the big leagues in 2015, but he’s developed into a true superstar over the past couple seasons. Since the start of the 2020 campaign, the 28-year-old is hitting .327/.378/.546 (145 wRC+) with 30 home runs and 33 stolen bases across 155 games and 679 plate appearances.
Turner’s one of the top few players in the sport, even if he rather remarkably didn’t make an All-Star team until this season. In addition to that high-end offense, he’s one of the game’s most dangerous baserunners and a fine defensive shortstop. FanGraphs estimates Turner’s been worth seven wins above replacement over the past two years, a mark that trails only Fernando Tatís Jr. among position players.
A good portion of Turner’s overall value comes from his aforementioned ability to play shortstop. It’s not precisely clear whether he’ll continue to do so in Los Angeles, where Corey Seager is also one of the game’s stars. Turner has some experience manning second base and in center field, and the Dodgers have never been shy about moving players around the diamond defensively.
Seager is slated to hit free agency at the end of the season, and he’ll be one of the top options on the open market. The Dodgers could use Turner in a utility-type capacity for the remainder of this season and plug him in as their regular shortstop come 2022 if Seager signs elsewhere.
Regardless of their long-term vision, it’s unquestionable that adding Turner to the roster will be a massive boon to a position player group that was already among the league’s best. Seager has missed two months after fracturing his hand, but he’s expected to return to the lineup this weekend. Turner, who landed on the injured list this week after testing positive for COVID-19 in what’ll apparently be his final game as a National, is out for at least the next week-plus.
Unsurprisingly, adding two of the sport’s best players will cost quite a bit — both financially and from a talent perspective. Scherzer is playing out the year on a $35MM salary, a little less than $12MM of which remains to be paid. That money is entirely deferred until 2028, part of a broader trend throughout the term of his deal. While Scherzer is an impending free agent, he’ll still be owed $15MM every year from 2022-28 in deferrals. The Dodgers are reportedly assuming the entirety of Scherzer’s remaining salary for 2021 (which won’t actually be paid out for seven years). Presumably, the Nationals will remain on the hook for all the deferred payments for time he’s already spent in Washington.
Turner, meanwhile, is making $13MM in his penultimate year of arbitration, which the Dodgers will also assume. Around $4.5MM of that sum remains to be paid, and he’ll surely be in line for a sizable raise this winter during his final trip through the arb process.
In addition to those salaries, the Dodgers are set to take on rather significant expenditures in luxury tax payments. The remainder of Scherzer’s contract contains a luxury tax hit in the $10MM range, while Turner’s CBT number exactly matches that of his real salary. Altogether, the Dodgers are adding something in the realm of $14.5MM to their luxury tax ledger.
That’s significant but apparently not much of a deterrent. Even before today’s acquisitions, the Dodgers had a CBT number north of $260MM, in the estimation of Jason Martinez of Roster Resource. That places them in the highest tax bracket, with Los Angeles subject to a 62.5% tax on any dollar spent over that mark. By assuming the remainder of Scherzer’s and Turner’s deals, the Dodgers are agreeing to pay somewhere in the range of $9MM in penalties on top of the money they’ll owe to the players.
Ownership is apparently willing to do exactly that in service of constructing a potential super-team. The defending World Series champions were arguably the most talented club in the league already, and they’ve added Scherzer, Turner and Danny Duffy to that loaded roster the day before the trade deadline.
To make that happen, Los Angeles has parted with a couple of baseball’s most talented young players. Ruiz has seemingly been on top prospect lists forever, but he’s still just 23 years old. He’s only picked up 15 MLB plate appearances over the past two seasons, but he’d likely have accrued far more playing time were he playing in most other organizations.
With Will Smith entrenched as the Dodgers’ current and long-term catcher, there simply hasn’t been much opportunity for Ruiz. That said, the switch-hitting backstop has earned a major league look. He’s performed well at basically every minor league stop, and that’s continued in 2021.
Ruiz is hitting a massive .311/.381/.631 with 16 home runs across 231 plate appearances with Triple-A Oklahoma City. Baseball America just ranked him the league’s #16 overall prospect in their midseason top 100 update, lauding his elite bat-to-ball skills and suggesting he’s a solid enough defender to stick behind the plate. It’s not unreasonable to expect Ruiz to settle in as an above-average or All-Star caliber catcher given his rare offensive upside for the position.
Ruiz is already on the 40-man roster and would seem to be a big league caliber option for the Nats this season. He’s in his final minor league option year, so he’ll need to break camp with the Nationals in 2022.
Gray wasn’t too far behind Ruiz on BA’s top 100 list, checking in 56th overall and second in the Los Angeles system. The young starter draws praise for his fastball-slider combination and fantastic athleticism, which allows him to throw strikes at a strong rate. Eric Longenhagen of FanGraphs slotted Gray as the sport’s #29 prospect entering the season (he’s up to 21st following other players’ graduations), calling him a likely “mid-rotation stalwart” at his peak.
The 23-year-old made his major league debut last week and has pitched in a pair of big league games. Gray spent the rest of the year with Triple-A Oklahoma City, although an injured list stint caused him to miss a fair amount of time. He tossed 15 2/3 innings of 2.87 ERA ball before his promotion, his first crack at the minors’ top level.
Neither Ruiz nor Gray will accrue enough big league time to reach a full year of service in 2021. They won’t reach free agency until after the 2027 season and aren’t likely to qualify for arbitration until the 2024-25 offseason. Both players have the opportunity to be long-term stalwarts in D.C., with many potential games featuring a Gray-Ruiz battery over the coming years. Gray still has all three options remaining.
Carrillo will also step directly onto Washington’s 40-man roster. His contract was selected last winter to prevent him from being taken in the Rule 5 draft, but Carrillo hasn’t yet appeared in the majors. He’s spent the entire season with Double-A Tulsa, tossing 59 1/3 innings of 4.25 ERA ball. The 22-year-old has struck out a strong 26.2% of batters faced but walked an alarming 10.9% of opponents.
Both Baseball America and FanGraphs suggest that lack of control is likely to eventually push Carrillo to the bullpen, but his mid-90’s sinker and power breaking ball could suit him quite well in short stints. Longenhagen slots Carrillo tenth in the Nationals system assuming the trade is completed.
Casey will need to be added to the 40-man roster this offseason or he’ll be exposed to the Rule 5 draft. The former 20th-round pick (2017) isn’t seen as a particularly strong prospect, but he’s having a quality season in a pitcher-friendly Double-A environment. The 25-year-old is hitting .296/.362/.462 with 11 home runs across 334 plate appearances with Tulsa. Casey has seen action at all three outfield positions.
The blockbuster completely changes the National League outlook. The Dodgers add two of the game’s best players to a tight divisional race, seemingly acquiring Scherzer out of the Padres grasp. With a few high-profile targets (José Berríos, Trevor Story and Kris Bryant chief among them) still having a chance to wind up on the move, the Dodgers’ in-state division rivals figure to be active themselves as the deadline approaches.
Jeff Passan of ESPN was first to report the Nationals and Dodgers were in serious discussions about a deal involving Scherzer and Turner. Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic reported Ruiz’s and Casey’s involvement in the deal. Jon Heyman of MLB Network reported Gray’s inclusion, while Jim Bowden of the Athletic was first to identify Carrillo as part of the deal. Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post was first to report Scherzer’s willingness to waive his no-trade rights, and Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post reported that the Dodgers would assume Scherzer’s and Turner’s remaining 2021 financial obligations.
WTF!
I’m predicting the Dodgers send over Duffy, Ruiz, Lux, and probably one more prospect
Haha
This almost seems unfair, a team as good as the Dodgers getting all this talent. I hope LA has to give up the max to complete the deal.
We would be GETTING the Max haha
In further news, Tatis and Machado have been traded to the Dodgers for their entire farm system, a rare inter-division trade. Also involved in the trade, sources say the Dodgers have agreed to send Jesus and Buddha to the Padres in exchange for Yahweh and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Man, it’s been a minute since I head a good flying spaghetti monster reference.
I think it is clear that when Scherzer said he wanted to play on the West Coast, what he really meant is that he wanted to be a Dodger. Understandable. They are the defending champs and are willing to outshine the Padres (a team with more limited funding) in building a super team. My guess is that the Dodgers, maybe not during this season, extend or resign Scherzer to a nice contract “extension” as they figure out how to potentially annul the Bauer deal.
They really want to win a World Series. Not one with a huge asterisk in front of it.
I think Bauer was setup as soon as the Dodgers heard Mad Max was available. Conspiracy theory? Maybe. But it is Hollywood LMAOOOO
It would be hilarious if LA got eliminated in the first round
Just as it would be hilarious if it took the Cubs another 100+ seasons to win another WS.
You sound like one of those DEPLORABLES
Wow i heard the exact same too.
I actually find this disgusting how is it supposed to be competitive total BS
It’s only been 33 years since the dodgers won a real full season championship..getting up to Cubs territory
It would be even more hilarious if they don’t make the post season.
Yeah, and if your team had won last year, I am sure they would have rejected the trophy.
But just think….The Dodgers will be in the playoffs. You only have another 96 years to wait for another WS.
Cubs and Dodgers blow!
Baseball needs a strict salary cap like the NFL!!
Freakin’ buying a championship is all it is, any team could do that if given the same amount of money the Dodgers spend and I don’t care what any responses say!
There are only two kinds of mlb players. Dodgers and those that want to be
Well, they won what was the equivalent of winning the pre-season World Series. Not saying they aren’t that good a team, but four prospects is just not enough for Scherzer, who is still one of the top 3 pitchers in the league, and Turner, who is one of the top 5 players in the league and the only SS I would consider taking over him would be Tatis, Jr. There should be a bigger name involved in this trade like Corey Seagar or some proven major league player or two in addition to these prospects.
Asterisk?
If be really surprised if they move that much high end talent…that not how they typically operate.
That is why it is called a “prediction”
I agree with Angelzero. Lux and Ruiz are expendable and it HAS to be substantial talent to beat out the other teams.
Neither was signing Bauer for a higher annual salary than anyone on a championship team.
I actually like your suggested package. They still keep Gray in that scenario. If LAD can somehow keep 2/3 of Taylor, Seager, and Belly in these next two off-seasons, I’ll be happy.
How much longer will it take before the baseball world realizes Lux isn’t good? Seems like there’s a delay.
True that.
Go look at Lux’s minor league numbers and remember he’s old enough to be in AA right now
I would hate to lose Lux, gotta give to get. Would you do Lux, Pepiot, Gray, Busch, Graterol for Scherzer, Turner, Harrison?
Cey, yes I would. And it would instantly make the nationals very good in 2022-2023.
It’s most of their recent high draftees basically minus Ruiz, but it’s a lot of talent. Do you think the nationals take it?
Nice haul. The ones I want the Dodgers to keep are Ruiz, Vargas, and Bobby Miller. Re Ruiz, you can’t trade him since he would be needed if Smith or Barnes got hurt. Three pitchers and Busch/Lux up the middle is a nice haul to add to Soto for the Nats.
Cey, I hear ya. But can’t is a strong word. Ruiz is possibly the most luxurious insurance at catcher in the game when you consider Smith/Barnes. I don’t want to give up Ruiz, but if he saves 2-3 other guys maybe they consider it. Diego is coming behind them
Ruiz just got pulled from the OKC starting lineup
Hudson? Ross? Robles? Ball?
Zimmerman if wavies his no Trade clause a good pickup for Red Sox?
NO!!!!!!!
Ruiz is gone, according to MLB.
Tommy Freakin’ Davis. Great avatar.
Find yourself someone that loves you as much as beforemccourt loves Gavin Luxs’ minor league stats
Hahahaha. He’s 22 and you’re pretending he’s washed up
and then claiming I’m the ridiculous one. Classic
You don’t accidentally hit .396 in AAA
Wonder if Duffy would still have a no trade clause, being he was 10-5 before noon today?
He waived for LAD
No, the “5” part of it disappeared when he was traded.
Ruiz pepoit peters and lotto tickets
A pitching prospect or two. Say, Pepiot and Gray. I like what I’ve seen from Gray. It would hurt to lose him and Lux but gotta give to get. The problem with trading Ruiz is he is 2021 insurance should Smith or Barnes get hurt, and the Dodgers would be going for it now.
Pepiot, Gray, Lux, and another on the offensive side, either Busch or Vargas. A potentially outstanding haul for Nats. Tough one for a prospect hugger like me. Again, gotta give to get.
@ Cey Hey;
Good to see you back!
I think there is another top dodger catcher for that spot
Not MLB-ready yet.
Then go sign a back up, heck federowicz is on a minors deal
Samuel trying to balance baseball and finishing a book is running me ragged.. Wild deadline stuff. An advantage to a Dodgers mage-packager for the Nats is getting a bunch of guys close to Soto in age.
@Cey Hey
Let us know when the book comes out.
I’m one of those weird old dudes that like 1st edition hardcover books.
Same, Ron Cey. Grats on today’s deals! What’s your book about?
groundhog5150, okay. it is music-based and I hope a lot of fun.
Why would the Nationals want Duffy? Although I agree Lux & Ruiz are gone.
Nay to Ruiz. What is Smith or Barnes get hurt?
Dodgers probably keeping Lux. Would be selling low. Ruiz is absolutely raking and no room for him due to Will Smith. It has to be Ruiz and a big pitching prospect like Gray or Pepiot. Maybe a lesser tier prospect too.
If Trea is coming almost has to be Lux going.. unless it’s Ruiz to WASH+ Lux to aaa to figure it out
Lux was only the #2 prospect a year ago. Seems too early to give up on him. Seager is probably gone after this season. Turner is not going to be cheap either the following year. Why not keep Lux to see if he can figure it out by end of next year? This would give Friedman options at SS at the end of 2022 season. Extend Turner or keep Lux at SS.
You’re acquiring a top 5 pitcher in the entire game and a top 10 infielder? It’s not giving up, it’s paying up
Giving up is selling him for a mediocre 3rd starter
But one is a half year rental and the other a one and half year rental. Friedman is smarter than that. It’s Ruiz, Gray and a lesser prospect. My guess.
You’d allow BUC considerations to miss out on a top 3 SS and top 5 SP?
Lux, Ruiz, Gonsolin, May, maybe 1 more
Spoken like a Padre fan. No way they give up that much for 1 and a half seasons of two players.
You Padre fans crack me up. Win something before shooting off your mouth.
Looks like it’s Ruiz, Gray, Donovan Casey and probably another lower tier prospect. I’d say a fair deal and improves the Dodger chances for a repeat.
No, my dear Padre friend. Wish away but it is not happening. Friedman is not Preller.
Ruiz, Pepiot, Lux, some other low level minor player
I’ll say three pitchers (Gray, Pepiot, Graterol), 2B/SS combo (Busch/Lux). All five guys would be MLB-ready and roughly the same age as Soto, which would be great for the Nats. A foundation of pitching and up-the-middle firepower to go with a generational hitter. The problem with trading Ruiz is the Dodgers are screwed for 2021 if Smith or Barnes get hurt.
If you believer these reporters they’ve already separately said Ruiz and Gray are part of the deal. And to me makes a lot of sense. Gray has not looked good. A homer machine. Small sample obviously. And Ruiz is raking and no room for him.
Small sample on Gray. I was impressed with both outings. Go look up Kershaw’s earliest MLB starts. Or Roy Halladay.
Halladay started great. Almost threw a no hitter. His troubles came a couple seasons later.
@CeyHey
Ruiz was the most obvious piece going back to Washington. He’s out of options next season and Will Smith is their guy.
Thank you Johnny Superscout
Lux stinks.
Oh no, the super team wants Scherzer but also Turner. Please, Zaidi do something. The super team is going to be scary if they add Scherzer and Turner. That team is going to so good.
COREY SEAGER SAYS “WHAT?”
Turner would play 2B, Corey at SS when he’s healthy
Turner is much better defensively than Seager at SS. Not sure why they would move him to 2nd.
Turner has played second base at the MLB level albeit years ago., Seager has not. I can see the Dodgers plugging him at 2B, or even flexing him if he’s open to it. Outfield, SS and maybe 3B too. It’s good to have options.
Should have extended Seager.
Never said Seager is better than Turner defensively. At all. But it’s how the guys can lineup best as a unit
Yes, come get KB and Kimbrel!
They will soon be spending 5 times the lower spending teams and 2-3 times the league average. If you don’t care about luxury taxes, and gross spending, you can do well in baseball. It’s all fair under the rules though obviously highly anti-competitive.
It’s like … 4 prospects? be serious. The Cardinals can’t come up with that? For Turner. I think it’s more about having the ‘timbales’ and pick up the phone and say “hold on” …
BAH GAWD IS THAT FRIEDMAN’S MUSIC?!
Thank you for the good ol’ JR reference bravo!
STOP THE DAMN MATCH!!! STOP THE DAMN MATCH PRELLERS OUT COLD!!!
That man has got a family!
^ great
I read that in Jim Ross’s voice
I did the same thing.
Definitely turning out to be a slobber knocker, and Preller is a one legged man in as. Kicking contest.
You win today!
What a lineup with two Turners!
Eff it. Let’s go bowling, dude.
The only reason such a move is being made is because of Bauer. They don’t go after Scherzer if Bauer is there and/or they expect him back.
Bauer won’t pitch again in LA, if anywhere ever, so this is the Dodgers’ pivot move.
Obvious, man.
Thanks for clearing that up, was wondering why they were targeting starting pitching.
Who knew? Oh right, everyone!
To be clear I don’t blame the Dodgers. Like the Yankees of the past they are hellbent on winning and spending accordingly. No hate or hard feelings from me towards them. But during the next CBA this situation might be worth addressing. The Dodgers already have a stacked roster and an enormous payroll yet they are still willing to take on the largest contract available on the trade market. Not a clue where the Giants came from but SD made significant moves to try to at least close the gap but the Dodgers just widened it yet again. One would think that payroll would be maxed but clearly not. To avoid a strike I don’t think MLB is in any position to set any kind of hard cap in addition to the luxury tax but as much as it seems to be a deterrent that works for most teams something should be done. Perhaps an even more substantial penalty for teams who’ve reached the kind of payroll the Dodgers have. I’m not a Dodgers hater this could be any number of big market teams and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a team like the Yankees after resetting the tax going wild for a number of years causing the same scenario. This is even on the backs of a bad financial year last year with COVID. That scare has basically passed but it’s still having an affect of many teams. I just don’t want to go back to whoever spends an obscene amount wins I enjoy smaller markets having a chance. Even if they will always spend less when the gap isn’t quite do high they have a fighting chance with good management. But when the disparity becomes this big we are talking about payrolls most teams cannot even touch including many “bigger market” teams. Of all the teams competing that have major pitching issues especially with injuries around the league the Dodgers ended up with the biggest prize and to me that’s concerning for the league. There’s no guarantees in the playoffs but the Dodgers sure looked stacked top to bottom and I’d be shocked if they don’t repeat
Giants “came from” highly intelligent coaching that has allowed Gausman, Desclafani, Crawford, Duggar, Webb, etc.to flourish. Didn’t have to spend big but definitely should do something now.
Hey I correctly predicted Mad Max to the Dodgers for Keibert Ruiz days ago and discussed this with several posters but Trea Turner as the cherry on top OMG.
I’m surprised Lux is not in this deal. With Seager back Lux has nowhere to play now in LA.
pain
What?? It’s the most wonderful time of the year. Not a D fan, and not a fan of my team giving away the farm, but love watching these deals go down.
I’m disgusted
I’m excited
I’m drunk
What a coincidence Chief me too.
I’m as high as bellinger
Right?
I’m aroused.
What is going on here?
A good time
I’m Batman!
Worried about the guy who is aroused.
I’m HBan and I’m not 22.
Please no
Uh Oh! HAHA!
Talk about a curveball!
The Nats had better be getting 2-4 of the Dodgers top 5 prospect
Lmao..sure-As if the Dodgers are known to just give away their prospects. 😀
WHATTTTT?
This is getting wild! If the Dodgers can swoop in here and steal him from the Padres, it will be the biggest Eff-You in trade deadline history.
LFGGGG FRIEDMAN
Meh, I’d rather we didn’t give up the farm for a 37 year old pitcher to be honest. We’ve worked so hard for so long to open a window, I don’t really like the idea of closing it early to go all in on a season where a wildcard game is our best hope. Dodgers can afford the hit of it goes wrong, Padres can’t.
Not after Snell…
The Madres have not opened a window. I know 3rd place seems like a lot when you have never won a thing.
Meh, I’d rather we didn’t give up the farm for a 37 year old pitcher to be honest. We’ve worked so hard for so long to open a contention window, I don’t really like the idea of closing it early to go all in on a season where a wildcard game is our best hope. Dodgers can afford the hit if it goes wrong, Padres can’t.
@UK yeah but it’s TT also…
Yeah, I do like Trea, but Padres have no space for him. Only a rental too, but could see the Dodgers signing an extension like they did with Betts. Not sure the Padres have that kind of money with Hosmer and Myers still on the books.
Pretty sure Turner is signed through next year so not a rental
Ugh. I hope not. Loaded roster does not need help.
Realize they can’t win one they have to buy one
Name one team who didn’t “buy” one. That’s baseball. Develop a good core. Spend like mad to surround it with stars.
The Cardinals own the second most WS championships. Tell me ANY of them that were “bought”. Yeah, I didn’t think so.
@Binnington you buy your own players too. It doesn’t matter how you get them you pay for them essentially buying them. Actually it’s renting not buying.
Times have changed, unfortunately.
Cubs. Only players they bought were Lester and Zobrist. (Heyward was a bust). Bryant, Baez, Contreras, Schwarber were all home grown. Rizzo, Hendricks, and Arrieta were all acquired via trades before they were any good. Chapman was acquired for high end prospect.
2005 White Sox only added Geoff Blum at the deadline.
So the Cubs bought Lester, Zobrist, Heyward, and Chapman but somehow you don’t think they ‘bought’ it?
Trades are part of so called “buying.” Scherzer and Turner were literally just traded for. It’s the same thing.
How about the Royals in 2015? That would be the most opposite to this dodgers team I could think of at least. 2010 Giants as well were very homegrown
Like the Yankees did in the 90’s and early 2000’s
The dodgers won the title with half their 40 man home grown. If that’s no winning with the farm, nothing is
As a Phillies fan I can definitely say that buying one ain’t easy either.
Kershaw, Urias, Buehler, Ruiz, Bellinger, Muncy, Seager, Jansen, all homegrown guys btw.
Muncy is not , he was drafted by the A’s.
No, but he completely changed his game after failing with As and found success in LA
They didn’t draft him, but they developed him
You big mad.
Stunner, teams in championship contention are motivated to acquire high caliber players.
Sure crybaby, the Dodgers are a very homegrown team with the right pieces plugged in. And I consider JT and Muncy home grown since they were picked up off the scrap heap
Imagine thinking you are getting Max Scherzer only to lose him to your division rival. That’s tough, I feel for Padres fans
Dodgers wouldn’t be asking the Nats to take Hosmer.
I guess not since Hosmer plays for a team a little further south.
Never feel bad for Padres.
Say what?!!
Sorry, what?
“It ain’t over until it’s over” – Yogi Berra
“I’m smarter than the average bear” – Yogi Bear
If you don’t go to other people’s funerals, they won’t come to yours.
That’s my plan. Same goes for weddings.
This is good.
Not playing around!
Wowwwww
well damn the doyers can let the pads have some fun jeez
Damn that NL West is fun
Nightmare stuff
That escalated….**puts on sunglasses**…. quickly.
Bullshit, dodgers have to buy everything!
You can do that when you draft and develop great players.
Not really wiseguy. When they need to “buy” something, they pay for it with home grown talent.
Now the baseball gods are just messing with us.
Well they always hated the Padres.
As a Padres fan, you could expect that I’m not happy about this news
Don’t worry dodgers will have no farm system after this and their payroll tax will eat their lunch
LOL! When have the Dodgers ever worried about money?
LMAO highly doubt that buddy. Let’s wait and see the details, dodgers system is deep
Nah. Dodgers are good at bullying other teams to give them their players or prospects. They won’t give them much back.
Dodgers are good at developing talent and have shown their prospects succeed at the majors very often under this regime. Makes a team more confident trading with them expecting the prospects to also produce
How exactly do the Dodgers bully other teams in trades? Do they threaten to beat up the GM’s?
unless it’s your money, you shouldn’t care about a tax hit. flags fly forever
You are obviously clueless about the Dodger farm system. They are loaded.
Nope, it isn’t loaded. Before this trade (if it happens) the Dodgers had one pitcher in the top 100 pitchers and two position players. This included Ruiz and Gray. Count how many they will have left if those two are traded.
With so much money coming off the books next year, they start the cycle again with loading up the big league roster with free agents to buy some time to rebuild a top end farm system. Worked the first time so why wouldn’t it work again.
The way they did it last time was to trade excess major league talent and eat a big chunk of money in order to get some prospects. They could do it again, if they have the excess major league talent. Where that’s coming from I have no idea.
Dodgers have Cartaya ready to be the next blue chip catching prospect and Pepiot/Bobby Miller ready to fill the Jojo role. Lose one, two more take the place
Serves you right, using clergy as a mascot! Where’s the outrage?!
Please no!
Talk about an embarrassment of riches!
LETS GO DODGERS!!! CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAPPPPPP
Those claps were the sounds of the Padres getting F*****!!!
AMAZING SOUND DUDE
Best one yet!!
Clappin those NL West CHEEKS!! RED MARKS
AHHHHHHHH
Dodgers do have enough of a farm for this….wow….
Obviously the Mariners are going to swoop in for them.
I thought the big move was going to be Kimbrel and Bryant but maybe this will be it
That’ll be the Giants now! Lmao
Gnats have the best record in baseball and have been handing it to the Dodgers lately. Not sure why their fans think they need such a big move.
If Scherzer goes to the Dodgers I’d be very happy as the Giants as that paves the way for Berrios.
The series this year is split 8-8. You need to step back from the ledge.
Because the absolutely do.
Go get him. Good luck on the playoff race with the Dodgers. We’re done
That will be Dombrowski.
That’ll be tommorow for the Dodgers.
This is entertaining
I’ve been a Dodgers fan my entire when they finish this deal.
this is the greatest comment I have ever read
Ridiculous. I hope this backfires badly on the greedy Dodgers.
Greedy? What about all of the other teams that are trying to get him?
Greedy? You’re jealous that the Dodgers are such a well-run organization that not only makes good trades and FA signings but scouting and prospects.
Yes, and as a Braves fan, I’m jealous of your owner as well…
Sure they are when they are using electronic devices to
Cheat
Hahahahaha!
Dodgers greedy? Didn’t the Padres acquire like 4 Cy Young caliber pitcher over the last year AND almost get another in Scherzer today? I don’t like the Dodgers, but they are just playing the game.
WHAT?? WHAT?? Oh geez
Well, maybe the Yankees will remember how they used to complete rosters for championships by watching this, instead of preparing for the postseason every year and receiving fulfillment.
Cashman: “Hal, yeah, you see those LADs buying all this super talent just to win a few extra games and a trophy? Stupid, right? I mean remember when we used to do those dumb things in the 90’s/2000?! Now, we save all this extra money and make it to within one or two series of these guys …..”.
My condolences Padres fans
Ugh
Where’s the dummy that said there was no way he was going to the Dodgers because of Bauer? Yoo hoo, where are you????
People on here project their feelings about Bauer on MLB players. There’s also the fans who dream of playing for their hometown team so they assume most MLB players feel the same way.
If they get outbid, they get outbid, but to say it’s because of Bauer is just….well, dumb!.
Shouldn’t we wait to see if Bauer is guilty?
“What is this, gringos falling from the sky?”,
“Yes, El Guapo!”
I said that the Dodgers couldn’t use the Bauer money to pay Scherzer. They still can’t. Bauer must be paid.
What the actual F
WHAT IS GOING ON
Why the need for Trea with Seager soon returning?
Seager is a FA at the end of the year
2b if Lux goes back. Ruiz is in it means Gomes is gon because also got Adams to. Bryant or even Jose Ramirez to Padres or Giants.
Very much suggest’s Lux is in the deal and Trea will play 2B if this happens
Lux Ruiz Gray Pepiot or something is a helluva offer
Not sure LA would give up that much but nows the time if it’s gonna happen
Lux is not in.
Well well. Maybe the Dodgers front office got about a 100,000 calls about how Danny Duffy as a door stop wasn’t going to get it done??
Ruiz to DC?
So much for all the talk of it being a buyer’s market. This is one rental that is going to crush Prospect fans of the team that acquires him.
Wuttt?
If you are the Nats, isn’t Turner the kind of player you rebuild around?
That’s what they have Juan Soto for
Better rebuild quick cuz he’s probably not thrilled to watch them blow up the team after the WS in 19. I imagine it doesn’t help their odds of locking him up before FA in 2025
Definitely wouldn’t make Soto wanna stick around lol
Turner will be 30 when he becomes a free agent after next season. As terrific as he is, the Nats probably are thinking longer term at this point. Soto is still only, what, 23? You could sign him to mega extension, and even if the Nationals suck for the next 2-3 seasons, he’ll still be right in the middle of his prime by the time they are contenders again. Turner’s skill set also may not age as well as Soto’s should. So those are a couple of reasons why the Nats may not have seen Turner as the guy to rebuild around.
@comish
Yeah, if you can rebuild in one year, before he becomes a free agent.
WHAT
Meanwhile, Giants now farting into their own hands instead of fermenting them in Masson jars.
Thank you, that genuinely made me laugh out loud
…after owning the Duds the last two weeks and basically the whole year! Lmao
I’m a Giants fan. See yourself out.
You are stupid. The series has been split 8-8 this year. I am happy though that the Dodgers live rent free in your head.
yeah right
Both?
Gavin Lux would have to be in that deal right?
Nope!
Say bye to the farm
Considering the clamor earlier about the Padres getting him I think it’s safe to not invest 100% into this until the dust has settled, but I will say that would make them one heck of a WS contender. Ruiz and more would have to be the deal I’d think
It’d have to be more than Ruiz considering that Turner is involved as well… My guess is that the Dodgers send over Josiah Gray and Ruiz and maybe some other lottery tickets to get the deal done. I’m shocked that the Nationals are willing to trade Turner, he’s the type of player they should extend.
He’s also the type of player who gets overpaid in free agency
Turner has a say in taking an extension or not, and currently Washington has not extended him. That might tell you what he’s saying.
God thats gotta be a massive haul. And I imagine Soto won’t be thrilled they’re selling absolutely everyone off
Hell, throw him in too then lol
Giving someone 400M usually buys you some time
This is simply LA worried about SD lol
I think they’re just worried about the Giants. The Giants have a 3 game lead after today
Lol, yeah a 3 game lead in July is so concerning.
And the angels waste another year of Trout. Rent free little brothers of Anaheim.
Trout wasted another year with the Angels. They even played better after his injury. Maybe they should have traded for some pitcher out with TJS, so they have the pitching to support him on the injured list.
Because the Dodgers have never made Big splashes at the deadline before. /s
I’m crying at the club right now
Crazy to think of the millions of people like us freaking out about these when it’s really just a handful of guys making phone calls to each other lol
Dodgers gearing up for a stretch run to the World Series
Hahahahaha
Holy schnikes
Padres: “Go apple!”
Giants: “Go orange!”
Mets: “Go banana!”
Dodgers: “Make way for grapefruit!”
lmbo
But how do the berries taste though?….. Good?
They taste like… burning.
I don’t quite know what this even means, but it still made me laugh.
My goodness. What is happening.
Wow,
Ruiz, Lux, Gray? Throw in a side of Dustin May?
Just another example of why MLB is awful. Yet another season of the Dodgers and Yankees buying up the top tier talent. Add that to rule changes and social justice, and you get a steaming pile of crap.
Oh BS. It’s (at least in Dodgers case) strike while you are hot. They don’t have ability to do this if they are dumb with their budget.
I don’t fault the Dodgers. I fault the system. But the Dodgers have more “dumb” flexibility than most any other club.
They draft 25 or later every year for the last 8 years, had half their championship 40 man roster homegrown, and you think they’re buying their success!? Wow
$257 million payroll, before this potential deal
And the 3 years prior, they didn’t pay any tax
Every recent champion has spent crazy after their title. It’s how you spend that determines if you are successful long term
Deep pockets wins in MLB, 14 of last 15 WS have been won by teams with top 10% in payroll, and Dodgers have highest payroll. MLB has an equality problem.
Where’d you get those stats?
Here are the actual payroll ranks for the past 15 champions
2019 Nationals 3rd
2018 Red Sox 1st
2017 Astros 12th
2016 Cubs 4th
2015 Royals 12th
2014 Giants 10th
2013 Red Sox 3rd
2012 Giants 8th
2011 Cardinals 11th
2010 Giants 10th
2009 Yankees 1st
2008 Phillies 14th
2007 Red Sox 2nd
2006 Cardinals 11th
Shhhh Brewer is trying to make a point with falsehoods. Again
Nobody lower than 14. Out of 30 teams. Point made.
He said top 10% and now it’s not top 50%?
No. Point completely changed
Brewer88 – The equality problem started 100 years ago when Ruth went to the Yankees. When the top spending team averages 25% more payroll than the 2nd highest spending team for 100 years, there is a problem. Fortunately, the Yankees front office is the Barney Fife of front offices and shoots itself in the foot on a regular basis.
The Dodgers are a whole new kind of threat. They more resemble the Yankees from 1920 to 1962 when they spent way more than everyone and won every other year.
Maybe fans can call their congressmen like they did during the steroid era and see if the monopolistic rules of baseball can be changed to something that resembles a sport not a business. The idea of a level playing field should ring out loudly to people everywhere other than NY and LA.
What budget? Most over the threshold and climbing!
Stymeedone – Yes, much like the Yankees of 2020. Maybe a simple rule like you can’t add payroll once you exceed the 2nd threshold of the cap would be a good idea to at least pretend there is competitive balance integrity induced by the cap. That would be $228M this year.
The Yankees added Cole when they were beyond that in 2020 so the Dodgers are following suit to not be one-upped. As long as there is nobody complaining to the commissioner that has leverage with him, this is just business as usual unfortunately.
How are Yankees buying top-tier talent? Their whole team is comprised of their prior farm guys with bounce backs and leftovers sprinkled in, with the sole exception of Cole.
Uh, they just got Gallo and Rizzo in a 24 hr period.
They’re not paying any of the salaries for either player
Probably Lux, Ruiz, Gray
Yes, at least
What the- what about Corey Seager??????…..
My guess is Turner plays 2nd base this year. Adios Corey next year?
Seager plays SS and T. Turner goes to 2B. Muncy 1B. Taylor flexes around all over the field to give players off days. Against tough lefties Taylor starts at CF over Bellinger.
Or… they trade Taylor and/or Pollock to make room, and get back some prospects that they probably just blew through on this deal.
Slides over to 3B or Trea takes over the keystone with Lux heading the other way
*slides over next season
Anyone know the location of the Dodger’s money tree?
(Season ticket holder raises hand)
^ this ^
Now they have a starter for the wild card game
They already did. His name is Walker Buehler.
But they probably won’t need to worry about it. They’re three games out in July. Seager, Mookie, and Kershaw are coming back. Scherzer and Turner are on the way. At this point, Bellinger figuring it out would be a luxury.
This is why I love this time of year. Never know what’s going to happen.
Scherzer and Turner? Dodgers gotta be giving up a pretty penny or two to get those two.
Love Trae Turner! Now if LA would send Bellinger to OKC (AAA) we’d have a tough lineup.
Maybe Belli is going to D.C. in return, and Turner will play CF for the rest of the year?
Wtf
No
Who knows maybe Belli goes back to Washington in the trade,yeah he’s been big for them in the past,is A great defender still,but if there was ever a change of scenery guy he would fit the bill. We will give you conforto straight up for Belli for the stretch run lol
God I can’t wait to see the new Farm System rankings after this is all said and done.
Why? It not like there’s a trophy for that. (Its not the goal!)
HaHaHaHa!!!!
The funny thing is, these 2 teams had an embarrassment of pitching to start the year. Now there fighting each other for more. Comical.
Think you mean “baseball”
Rosenthal teases more than a wh*re!
Dodgers are stacked as it is. This will tip the scales.
I guess the padres will just need to call up Camarena to deal with Scherzer
They should keep turner and build around him along with soto and bell
all this because they are scared of the 1st place Giants who weren’t even supposed to contend LMAO! have fun in second!
Padres and Dodgers fighting it out,and the old forgotten Giants still gonna either win the division or sneak into the wildcard while one or both of these teams watch them play in October lol. I also wouldnt be surprised if you see the Giants acquire Story ,Kimbrell or Bryant just for ha ha,s and run hard with it the rest of the year.
It’s a three game lead in July. Calm down.
Pleeeeeeaaassseee
I can’t handle anymore of this soap opera
Next Week on will he be traded…
Boy are you ever in the wrong place.
@Blueskies
Lol
Ridiculous… the result of no salary cap and floor in baseball. Another reason to root against teams like this.
Salary caps don’t work. Players like Brady make plenty of money on endorsements and take contracts below market value to make sure the team fills the roster with other marquee players. Baseball has had 7 unique champions in a row, it’s a strange time to complain about parity.
Having said that, I agree it sucks that the Dodgers and Yankees always seem to be able to pull off all these trades. But a salary cap isn’t the answer. Nba and nfl have terrible parity. Even nhl just had back to back champions for the second time in 5 or 6 years.
There’s more parity in NFL than MLB
True that.
Lol under absolutely no measure is that true
Salary caps, especially in MLB, don’t work and punish successful, big-market teams in favor of small-market teams. They also hurt the players’ salary market while protecting corporate income, thereby reducing one’s ability to maximize one’s contract.
This is the default mantra for ineffective/unsuccessful teams when a team makes a big acquisition, but not the solution. For example, look at what SD has been doing since they’ve simply decided to play – teams can do this, they just choose not to, so fans want the budgets limited to force players to different teams in the name of parity.
Baseball has had small and large market teams winning the past several seasons and demonstrates the notion of cap necessity is false.
That and the Dodgers end up with too many guys no one likes
Tom Brady been to 10 won 7 super bowls in a little more than 20 years. Where the hellnis the parity in football? LeBron James been in 10 NBA finals both sports have salary caps. Ironically baseball the sport without a cap is exhibiting the most parity. Costs aren’t out of control, both Tampa and Oakland still compete at a high level on a somewhat regular basis. Stop complaining and keep people who know how to use the resources they have. Idk, maybe your team should hire executives from Tampa or Oakland and learn how it’s done.
Too many people believe media hype. The media tells us “any given sunday” so they must have the best parity. It’s ridiculous to claim NFL has better parity. Like I said above. MLB 7 years, 7 different champions. Tom Brady has 4 super bowl rings in that time frame.
What about graterol lux Ruiz and Andy pages
Miller, Gray, Pepiot, or May will likely be added to Lux, Ruiz, and maybe a Pages type offensive prospect.
I dont see La trading away May, that kid has one hell of a future and swears potential, if they trade him they can trade him to the queens lol
Let’s go Dodgers. Hang on to that slim 3 game lead Frisco lol
So are the Dodgers now just like NBA teams when Lebron goes to them? Asking for a friend.
Just insane, it’s pretty easy to be a Dodger fan. Sign Bauer in the offseason, already had Betts. Had Price in the bullpen. Now want to get Scherzer and Trea Turner? Trust me glad they get out the NL East but it’s straight bananas!
Bauer is done for awhile. Price is washed up.
LMAO… The Nationals can’t make up there minds
GIants will still beat the greedy dooshbags.
My grandmother always told me something that the Padres and Dodgers might learn. You can shine up a turd and it will look better ,but in the long run it’s still a turd and will stink and get flushed. In other words this is probally gonna come back and haunt the greedy Dodgers and the Giants are gonna blow by them. Scherzer is A hof in my book,has had a tremendous career, to deplete your farm for A aging 37 year old who has dealt with injuries just dont make sense, I know Turner is kind of the headliner but he has stated in the past he wants to strictly play ss which may cause waves with Seager being there still,plus Turner is gonna be coming off having Covid so its gonna probably take him sometime to recover to be back to normal.
8 straight division titles, 3 pennants and a ring
Where’s the bite?
Atlanta owned the 90,s with 1 ring that was won in a full season, Dodgers 1 ring in a 60 game season . Any team even my mets could do that every year and I would still be disappointed. The reason you play in October is not just to brag about how many divisions you win,its about winning the series and getting rings. That’s why even though I dread the damn yankees ,I give some respect cause no matter what it took,8 out 10 times back when they were good ,they got in October and cooked the bacon and got the rings.When La wins a ring or two in the next few years which they are built to do come back and talk to me,until then enjoy your 60 game season ring, and by the way when Posey goes for his 4the ring this year and passes the Giants by into the playoffs he says hello.
You’re so stuck on the 60 game year
They were on pace to win 115 games in a 162 game season. Are you trying to claim they were not going to make the playoffs?
At which point, they had the hardest World Series run in the last decade+ because of the schedule. Zero off days while playing the 2+3 seed in the NL, before facing the 1 seed in the AL. Not to mention no Home field advantage, often huge in big series. SD+ATL lost, as would have Boston in 18+ Wash in 19, because of the schedule
The pitchers may not have held up though. The Dodgers always choke in October. It’s no coincidence that they won when the season was shortened by 102 games.
Now you’re just making up possibilities to tell me how you feel
They had the deepest staff in baseball. 7 deep. If you think their staff was going to get hurt, then you think the Padres injuries we’re going to be so severe they crash too right? Because LA had no reason to crash.
Deal with reality buddy
And you just won a gold in mental gymnastics!!! Don’t be mad at the Dodgers, be mad at your GM for sitting on his hands and waiting for their window 3 years from now.
Lol
I don’t understand why the teams with the player don’t get the best prospects from the other team. They are getting like the 8th or 10th best prospects the other team has. Get one of their best prospects or don’t make the deal. Ut is like they are thankful the Yankees or dodgers want their player. Crazy
You don’t give best prospects for rentals anymore
Teams value their top prospects as 60-70M assets because of their control. Takes a lot going back to get a team to give up that type of value
My guess is Nats get Lux, Ruiz, Gray, Graterol and maybe a few more… Dodgers get Scherzer and Turner and cash probably
I doubt they get all three in Lux, Ruiz and Gray. That would be too much. Two of those three, most likely Ruiz and Gray, and together with a lower tier prospect.
If the Braves cared, they would have acquired Turner.
Who agrees with me
And Corey seager too
Looks like Andrew Friedman is panicking for the 2nd time in 2021 the 1st panic move by Friedman was to sign Trevor Bauer to the richest single season salary in MLB History because of the moves the Padres did & now if he makes this move & trades away a huge chunk of the Dodgers future for Scherzer who at 37 has more downslide than anything else,
Now if Turner is part of any deal Friedman is telling Corey Seager that his services are no longer required & don’t bother coming back from the injury list.
It’s really too bad that Friedman has started to panic this season & if he acquires Scherzer & Turner while giving up on the Dodgers future because Scherzer isn’t in the Dodgers Future because he’ll be long gone soon & Turner only has 1 more year of team control & then he’ll be free to go anywhere he wants.
Friedman is a clown
You keep telling yourself all of that if it’s what you need to feel better.
Keep showing that you are a fool if you think Friedman isn’t in panic mode
He’s not in panic mode……
Preller raised the stakes. He’s not smart. The Dodgers have a better roster, more legit farm system top prospects, and more money.
Friedman simply is calling and raising.
But it’s all rumors until they show their hands.
Truth be told, the Padres already have the better farm, and if the Dodgers give up both Ruiz and Gray, it won’t even be close.
Don’t agree.
Padres have and have had the most publicized farm. Look how the Padres young players panned out and how the Dodgers have.
It’s the Padres that are wildly signing high-priced free agents and batching up their young home grown players for guys that actually produce on the field. None of the top-tier prospects traded have developed into star players. A few have been solid (Reyes, Renfroe, maybe one or two others), but there’s no one that going to the All-Star game the next 4-5 years.
@ Samuel
So forcing your opponent to pay more for what they want isn’t smart? Are you sure you are?
You make no sense.
So by making the Dodgers pay more in prospects and money to radically improve their team -prospects and money they can afford – …..that’s smart?
And then you’ll have to compete against that improved team?
Is it better than letting them get those players for cheap? Yes it is.
Farm systems and prospects are ranked, so you could look it up. I already have.
@ BlueSkies_LA;
That’s my point!
Who’s doing the ranking? Who appointed them? What’s their record?
In business there are audit departments that review how well something worked out compared to the projections.
Does anyone review MLB.COM MiLB analyst projections? Fangraphs projections? Mel Kuiper’s football player projections? (My MLB division projections at the end of Spring Training every year for the past 5-6 have have outperformed the projection companies that MLBTR quotes every Spring… and I usually miss 1 or 2 of the 6))
A sweet gig if you can get it. Hit on 10% of the predictions. Trumpet it over and over, and you got a sweet gig for big bucks….plus celebrity.
Ever watch CNBC? Jim Cramer? He’ll tell you his top 5 winners. He might mention one of the 100 losers…to show how open he is.
Who’s holding these people accountable? Pass me a link.
It’s way better to disbelieve anyone who knows anything and listen to whoever tells you whatever you want to hear. The plague of our times, it infects everything.
LOL it’s not panic when it’s part of the plan dude.
Friedman has never overpaid for any player as the Dodgers President of Baseball Operations until he panicked & signed Bauer & now Friedman is in panic mode again because of the Padres & Giants.
Scherzer is 37 he might have 2 or 3 years left of good pitching & not worth trading away the Dodgers future & anyone who believes that he is then they are morons & idiots.
Acquiring Turner would be a slap in Corey Seager’s face & it’s telling him his services are no longer required & don’t bother coming back from Injury & just walk in the off season. OH YEAH you won’t play Turner in Centerfield because he’s not as good as the current Dodger Center Fielder.
It’s called reacting, not panicking.
@ George Ruth;
Suggest you back off before you have a major medical problem. Seriously.
Scherzer started the All-Sar game. He would immediately become the Dodgers ace. He’s an intense competitor and a because of it – a team leader (he’s a 180 from Trevor Bauer). He gets teammates fired up and playing harder. So what if he only has 2-3 years at this level? He’ll still be one of the best pitchers in MLB.
Turner is a far better all-around SS than Seager. Not close.
The Dodgers farm system will hardly be depleted no matter how many players they give up.
Just a hunch you’re not a Dodger fan. Btw, Seager and Betts both return on Sunday. Trea Turner would have nothing to do with Seager re-signing or leaving in the winter.
Just a hunch you are not a Dodger Fan because only FOOLS would want to trade away the Dodgers future for a 37 yr old in the twilight of his career. & how long have we’ve heard that Corey was returning on such & such day only to see that day come & go.
You are absolutely blind if you think Friedman bringing in a Shortstop like Turner isn’t sending a message to Corey that his services are no longer needed at the start of his Free Agency years because you don’t bring in a Shortstop to replace the team’s star shortstop
OH YEAH Mookie’s situation doesn’t involve trading for Turner since Turner is not a right fielder.
It’s almost like you need someone to play short and someone else to play second base
And second base has been pretty ugly this year when you take out the guys who are needed at other positions
But rant on
Why are you worried about the Dodgers future pipeline of players with how stacked with talent that roster already is? They have the financial resources to keep said talent and stay on top of the NL West for the next decade. The Dodgers aren’t a team who needs to worry about trading away top prospects, they’re in a much better place than most teams who depend on those homegrown prospects coming up.
You are mad!!! Your tears taste so sweet. Don’t worry there is always next year. Giants and Padres fans are taking this HARD. you guys were so close and end up so far. At least you guys are finally good. Makes it an actual rivalry. Well maybe just for the Dodgers and giants. The Padres need to win one title first. The giants just recently got theirs.
Don’t count the sale till the check clears the bank.
I think you just outed yourself as a clown.
Ruiz is part of the trade
I think we all knew that would be a given. With Will Smith doing so well, Ruiz is a bit blocked and not a bad trade piece. Obviously one would like to see him stay, but the Dodgers don’t necessarily need him as much as most other teams likely need their top prospect. If this trade is completed, at least the Dodgers are including him to get two huge assets, especially if they extend Scherzer. I think he likely has 2-3 good years left, at least. He has certainly been great so far this season.
As if Rizzo & Gallo going to the Yankees wasn’t shocking enough, Friedman pulls this?!? Damn I love Deadline week.
These undercutting slap in the face deals are my fav. Rays getting Bryant & Berrios after deal in place with Red Sox, boooook it.
Okay is the Giants turn to sign Scherzer soon? After them does it go back to the Padres or the Red Sox get a turn?
No one’s turn to sign Scherzer until at least November. And knowing Scotty Boras probably later.
With Boris it might even be March 1st
Seager spotted in LA flying around the airport in a jetpack
I’m a giants fan who hates the Dodgers but it’s funny to see the reporters jump the gun too early about the Padres trade so tbh, why not
Dodgers to trade Dave Roberts, Kenley Jansen, Cody Bellinger to Nats for Scherzer, Turner & the Dodgers turn over the manager position to Orel Herhiser. That. would be sweet!!!
Roberts is the best Dodger manager I’ve seen in 54 years as a fan of the team. Kinda clear where you’re coming from, though.
What? How have the Dodgers choked 2 of 2 real World Series’ in the past 4 years?
Tommy lasorda says hello, especially with the teams he won with. I mean damn the team in 88 had practically all everyone’seft overs and light hitting utility guys.probally had one of the worse looking starting lineups ever in A world series game and still one. Robert’s not knocking him but has always had a office and ownership full of money and quality staff at all times, has he had them in the playoffs yes,did he win in october (60 game season) yes ,but I’m taking Lasorda in my opinion all week and twice on sunday. And that’s coming from a die hard long time Mets fan that in 88 got our hearts broken by tommy and the Dodgers, RIP Mr. Lasorda
Honestly I thought the Dodgers had zero chance in 88’. Mets and A’s were so much better. Like you said the Dodgers were fielding a unit of utility players. That is why just making the playoffs is important. Anything can happen in a 7 game series.
Lasorda was a terrible manager. Those 86 and 87 teams he managed were awful. They always looked unprepared. Had Kirk Gibson not come in a set the tone, the 88 teams would have been similar.
Lasorda also had a subv-.500 team in ’79 after going to back-to-back World Series. And he was awarded a playoff berth in 1981 that the team didn’t really earn. And…he pushed for trading Pedro Martinez and Paul Konerko., Check his yearly record. Kinda mediocre. Bad human, too. Hollywood Tommy.
You nailed it Cey Hey!
Nope. Lasorda is better for 88 alone when they had no chance. I want to strangle Roberts in the playoffs even though I like him as a person.
It will be funny to see them lose to the Padres in the Wildcard game
Lol.. 1 game is a crap shoot. They better win the west.
The Giants are sitting nice as of now with a 3 game lead after taking 2 of 3 in this series against the Dodgers. It won’t be very easy
Cope.
It maybe against “sticky stuff” Guasman or Snell so not worried much.
Carmelo Doval, Casey Schmidt & Luis Matos are the Giant players rumored for Scherzer. Doval hit 104 mph last night for Sacramento.
Watch for Lux, Ruiz & Graterol to go.
The Dodgers . What about Trevor Bauer ? He was just doing what he saw on Chaturbate
Do the Padres have a farm system left to trade?. Dodgers too? Farhan in SF is pulling a bluff.
Ugh…
The Lakers just acquired Russell Westbrook so of course the Dodgers are going to upstage them and get Scherzer and Turner. Taking all the stars away from D.C.
Can we please get a salary cap now?
Let’s get a floor first. Those teams are cashing big checks.
Turner and Scherzer for Ruiz and Lux comes out as exactly fair on Baseball Trade Values
Lux sux
Would not surprise me if the Dodgers just made noise because the Angels were rumored to be interested in Scherzer.
As if the Dodgers care about what some team in a different league that hasn’t made the playoffs in 7 years does.
That’s what I’m thinking too….I still feel Bryant and Kimbrel are their targets and this is just an effort to drive down their price and raise Scherzers at the same time however if they do pull the trigger, I will be one happy fan.
Why would the Angels do that? Just go after him as a free agent and save your chips.
BeCaUsE tHeY cAn ExTeNd HiM!
Dodgers will never be worried about Anaheim. Until you guys get a new owner you will always stink. You guys are wasting now 2 of the best players in baseball.
So… Giants spank dat a**. Between Bums losing 5 of 7 to Giants and the Bauer situation, the Bums get desperate. Love it. If you don’t love baseball, you have to love the Bums’ drama and smell of desperation!
I never heard of a team getting insulted for making a smart trade.
Giants and Padres fans are turning green as I type
Who you spanking? The series is 8-8 this year. You seem scared with a stupid comment like that.
They have split 16 games with Dodgers missing the heart of their lineup. Not exactly dominating.
Giants will still kick the crap out of them
Lol
Yes 8-8 is kicking the crap out of us. Rent free every day of the week.
I’ll start by saying I’m a Padres fan for life. I’ll also say that if I’m the Nats, I’m feeling like I just won the lotto. You have a bidding war for a 37 year old pitcher in a contract year. The Nats are going to fleece anyone who wants Max.
Finally, I’ll just add in here that this is not only a surprise but fine with me. Max would be a great pick up but this isn’t going to put the Padres or the Dodgers over the top. Both teams have their own issues. With Turner in there, sure, maybe. But, if they want to sign Turner long-term, they have even larger problems called luxury tax. Turner might actually be a 1 year plus rental here too which is even more confusing from a reality standpoint.
Enjoy Dojers, you burn up arms and sign people like Bauer. If team chemistry meant nothing, you should be 10 games ahead of the Giants at this point with your roster. I personally don’t see you winning the division, or getting far in the playoffs. Seager coming off the bench is also a pretty interesting idea.
lololololol cry
Padre fans are showing a little bitterness.
The Dodgers don’t need Scherzer to put them over the top.
They’re the defending champs.
And your showing your hypocrisy. Dodger fans calling the Padres desperate for trying to get Scherzer.
Everyone knows that wasn’t a real World Series.
And this year also won’t be real right? Days like today are the reason I am a Dodgers fan. Giants and Padres fans are folding like lawn chairs.
Everyone knows it was, antibelt. Actually, the Dodgers legitimately won two WS since 2017. Everyone knows that, too.
CoblEven. I’m with ya. For nine years, every game the Dodgers have played has meant something. While there have been some disappointing Octobers, nothing detracts from the joy of rooting for a team and organization that is committed to competing at the highest level. And it’s not as if they’re at the end of their run. In some ways, they are just getting started. Dodger fan since 1968 and this is without question the franchise’s golden era in Los Angeles. I see Dodger fans complain and I roll my eyes. If a Dodger fan can’t be happy with this run of teams, then perhaps being a baseball fan isn’t their thing.
Btw, I’ve seen people in this thread claiming the Dodgers are greedy. Greedy for what? Winning? Every team’s fans should want such greed. The Dodgers are loaded with top prospects even though they draft at the end or near the end in every round. No tanking. Just a commitment to scouting and player development. That scouting includes minor and major league talent. They take other teams’ rejects and turn them into stars. It’s not an accident. It’s about having a plan for every player that enters the organization. There’s a reason why Alex Wood, Jimmy Nelson, and Tommy Kahnle chose the Dodgers for their rehab year. It’s because they do things the right way.
@cryptonerd I agree with you in principal but even if the Pads had somehow won last year, it wouldn’t have felt the same– yes they’re the champs but I think a repeat makes the whole thing more legit. I’m not sure if you’re going to find much bitterness in what I said btw. I think the Nats had one helluva poker hand here and did well. The Dodgers do need to win it all this year after a trade like this though. That’s a lot of money (and prospects) flying. Kudos to you guys, I honestly didn’t want Scherzer because we would give up too much and being real, we don’t have the team to beat LA or SF WITH HIM. That’s the life of a Padre fan.
Our entire team was hurt, calm down with that 10 games talk… It’ll look way better with Max, Kershaw and Buehler leading the way
Bellinger missed 57 games. Seager has missed 67, Pollock missed a month, Betts, Kershaw, Muncy, Lux, McKinstry, Gonsolin, Kelly, and Knebel have all missed significant time. May, Ferguson, Kahnle, and Rios are all out for the season.
No crying. Just take the field and do what you can to stay in the hunt. Betts and Seager return on Sunday. Kershaw and Knebel in another week. The chemistry will be fine., These guys are professionals whose core has been to three World Series in four years. It also includes key members from the 2018 champs (Betts, Price) and, possibly, 2019 champs (Scherzer, Trea Turner). Farm system still strong., Nothing ever guarantees a championship, but you have to admire a front office doing all it can to put the team in the best position to win. Isn’t that what Padres fans have been gloating about in 2021?
Btw, don’t worry about Corey Seager. I’m sure he’ll enjoy playing next to incoming 2B Trea Turner.
Typical bitter Padre fan. But hey you dominate the off-season.
@bellybombs Being a bitter Padre fan is a lifestyle- and it’s not bitter, it’s just what happens to us. We’ve waited 20+ years to have a team and now we have one. The two times we went the the series, we faceplanted into extremely great teams. What can you do?
Right now, the Dodgers and Giants are just better- the Dodgers were without this trade. The sad/funny thing here is that we’re probably going to have three 90 game winners in the NL West which is insane. (and also, like the Pads history, just our luck).
Btw there aren’t a lot of bitter Padre fans anyway, this is the most fair weather city in country that’s not called Miami. So yeah, there are 1000 frustrated people out there and the rest are oblivious. But… the Dodgers still need to win this whole thing after a trade like this: this was a giant move. I think the Nats pulled off one helluva deal.
My thinking is Scherzer wouldn’t waive his no trade clause for the Padres… I don’t know why, though, they’re an excellent team albeit not as good as the Dodgers. This really sucks, lol.
I’m thinking the same. Seems like he tried to steer this towards LA or the Nats played the media very well. Personally I’d much rather be in SD then LA.
Perhaps, for the weather, certainly not for baseball.
Because San Diego will always be pretenders. I am happy all your sports team left and all you got is the “never win a World Series Padres”. You guys deserve to suffer more.
Sounds like the Dodgers are gonna let Seager walk.
Hardly. If Lux goes, no one is playing 2B or SS atm next year
They have Trea Turner now
This has nothing to do with Seager this winter, though I imagine people will keep bringing it up.
Lux is not a everyday starter ,sorry but like most prospects in Mlb he is overated.
I think they’re preparing for the Yankees to go after him this off-season
The dodgers are desperate. Remember how they handled the Bauer situation. They were going to allow him to pitch even after the gross allegations.
Just initially, then they removed all of the Bauer merchandise from their stores, both physical and online, cancelled his bobble head day and did everything they could to distance them from him. Clearly, though, you are simply more interested in finding ways to put the Dodgers down rather acknowledge all of the facts. Right after the accusation was made public, Roberts said Bauer was still scheduled to start, then the Dodgers completely changed their approach as soon as more info came out. Now, it has been reported that most of the players don’t want Bauer back. Regardless of the legal outcome, Bauer will never pitch for the Dodgers again.
How brave of the dodgers to remove all of his merchandise after hearing Bauer choked out this woman and raped her unconscious. Face it, if the league hadn’t put him on administrative leave, the dodgers would have turn a blind eye on Bauer’s reprehensible actions. Read Dave Roberts’ initial comments. It’s embarrassing. for a man who has lived this long on earth. Have the balls to take the lead and not hide behind well it’s not my decision, it’s not in my hands, it’s other people that have to make the correct decision. I don’t want any responsibility for this. Please others make the decision so I won’t get any blame.
Dave Roberts said Trevor Bauer is with the team in DC. They plan on letting him start Sunday, and Roberts said their direction was to not do anything until they get guidance from MLB.
“It’s out of our hands,” Roberts said.
No, they weren’t. The discipline was MLB’s call, not the Dodgers. Everyone knew MLB would step in and do something.
The Dodgers did exactly what was required of them under the joint policy. From what I’m hearing not even one in a hundred baseball fans has even the slightest clue what’s in this document or the slightest interest in finding out.
You are pulling at strings or bricks as you fall down the well. Just accept your fate before you hit the bottom, you just look sad desperate now.
If Ruiz goes, the Dodgers need a third catcher in the event Smith or Barnes gets hurt. Gomes?
It can be a separate move
They have Cartaya Diego as their #6 prospect, but I believe he’s in A ball right now.
Max headed to the Padres oh wait lol
He has approved the deal already.
The jousting between the Padres and Dodgers is very real. Whoever “broke” the story that san diego had a deal for Scherzer done did them a diservice. It took the dodgers one call to spoil that idea. Whatever they are offering, here is much more…got your attention? Ok so.no more padres, deal with us!
It makes it more sweet!!!
Wow done deal!
Wowwww
Glad to see this coming together for the Dodgers. Would’ve been sweeter if it was the Angels but I doubt they have the talent needed to get the deal done.
Night night Frisco. Lol go Blue
@ban please don’t say Frisco. The Giants are in first place and took 5 of 7 from your boys. Dodgers getting desperate. The Giants now have a way better farm and 10’s of millions to spend. Our window is just opening. Definitely a big trade for you guys though.
Frisco
Too bad they don’t give trophies for 1st place in July.
Did Giant fans forget that we’re the champs?
@crypto not at all. The Dodgers are stacked. My point is we are in 1st place at the end of July and haven’t even started graduating prospects yet. I think your window is a lot smaller than you may think.
Champs of a 60 game shortened season? Lol! You boys just sold the farm for a 37 year old rental! WTH?
They give championships for 60 game seasons so why not a trophy in July? Haha
@Balk I’m with you, hate the Dodgers and really hate the fans for booing a future HOFer on their own team. Classless trash. However, they also got one of the best players in baseball in that trade lol.
@Balk – Turner just to clarify.
Hey they allow proven cheaters to keep championships.
Balk, you sound like a Padres fan.
Do 60 game season championships count?
* Trophy.
Night night doyers farm! Lol! Giants shouldn’t of even been in the discussion much less 3 games up on the Doyers with the best record in baseball for almost a half a season! SMH
They’re trying to go back to back and you’re pretending to worry about their farm. Lmao
Dude. Did you even see what the Dodgers gave up? They fleeced the Nats. Gave up the farm? What a Derp!
@Arthur “fleeced” is a pretty strong term. They gave up 2 top 100 prospects and more. It was a good trade for both teams. Rizzo deserves credit for knowing it was time to pull the plug.
This is fun
It’s really funny to read the earlier comments today, then see those same people trying to say they’re happy Max isn’t going to their team and he’s washed up
LOVE THIS!!! Friedman strikes again!!!!
Gray and Ruiz would hurt, but Scherzer and Trea would be an excellent addition to the team
Not really. Gray really isn’t anything special and Ruiz is blocked and has Cartaya behind him. I think both sides can got better with this trade
Wow thanks now Turner is out of the division. Signed Mets fan
I don’t want the Giants to take Scherzer. He’s too old, even though he is really good, for them to give up the farm. I’ll absolutely take Trea Turner though
As a giants fan you should definitely know about old players.
I believe they’re called veterans.
They’re also working on Kimbrel from the Cubs
are they really?
Ruiz, Gray and two other mid prospects. Crazy!!
That’s light, Turner is way underrated and is 1.5 years of control, so if that’s all they have to give up that’s a great deal for the Dodgers.
True that.
Rematch incoming….
Rays vs Dodgers 2021
As a Mets fan, if dodgers aquire turner and max… this will break my heart dodgers r absolutely running away with the championship, there’s no way u can beat this team in a series ☹️
That was quoted in 2017. And 2018. By golly, I think 2019 too. They only prevailed in 2020 after nearly losing to a mediocre Braves team.
Anything can happen. Phillies had Halladay / Oswalt / Lee / Hamels in 2011 and how did that work out?
CHRIS CARPENTER, BABY!!!!!
Anyone in a 5 or best of 7 series can win,all it takes is for A team to get hot at the right time.
You guys are right but I’d say this makes the Dodgers the favorites, at least in my mind. It would be very difficult to beat them in a series. The easiest way I could see them getting knocked out would be if they do end up losing the division and have to play in the Wild Card game. One game is too random. Other than that, aside from injuries, I honestly see them winning it all again unfortunately as much as it pains me to say it.
Geez, an Astros fan with a brain. Welcome to the world, human!
They are favorites, possibly, but what about health? No one expected the Giants to be this good either. Lots of factors.
I never realized Brewers had that great of pitching. When it comes down to it, pitching wins no matter how great an offense is.
It’s been shown time and again the best team on paper doesn’t always win. Sometimes, yes, but only a fraction of the times. Let’s play out the year before jumping to conclusions.
Brewers say hi. Their top three are still better then the Dodgers or anybody else. Even with Max.
Woodruff 2.12, Burn’s 2.14, Peralta 2.17. Also not one single pitcher has an era over 3.86 on the current roster. They were the first national league team ever to strike out 1000 batters in less than 100 games.
The Brewers TOR arms are amazing, no doubt. But I’ll take my chances with Buehler, Scherzer, Kershaw, Urias.
Is there a bigger big game pitcher right now than Walker Buehler?
What about their lineup, though? Believe me I’d root for your Brewers every day of the week over the Dodgers. Heck I’d root for the Yankees every day of the week over the Dodgers. I just don’t know that anyone will actually be able to stack up against them, pound for pound.
Betts
Seager
Muncy
Turner (J)
Turner (T)
Smith
Bellinger/Taylor
Pollock/Taylor
That’s a helluva lineup. Seager might not bat in the 2 hole right away, but when he’s right, that’s where he goes. And if Cody Bellinger gets it going…
Padres should respond by trading for Kris Bryant, Craig Kimbrel and Kyle Hendricks.
As a cub fan I pray this happens.
No surprise here. Scherzer wanted to go out west and Dodgers usually always win the trades. Can’t have a season without a big name trade.
I do wonder what went on behind the scenes. I wonder if Scherzer preferred the Dodgers over the Padres and if he had that kind of veto power. I guess ultimately he did with his 10-5 rights.
This 10 5 needs to be abolished
Why?
Agreed. No-trade clauses are a sneaky important reason for lack of equity in baseball. Only three or four teams could have made this trade, even if another had a better offer to make.
Players aren’t cattle. They earn those 10/5 rights. Why shouldn’t an established player have some say on where he’s traded? Scherzer signed with the Nats by choice. Why should they get to choose where he plays next?
I agree that the players are human beings with lives and loved ones outside of baseball to consider, not cattle. NTC gives players the power to choose to uproot their lives or not. If you earn your keep and service time, then you absolutely should not just bounce from city to city (state to state) without some sort of protection or say. Also, location DOES matter.
Fire Ken Rosenthal
He was used to drive up the price imo
Right, Ryan. Kill the messenger!
How does that return match up to what the Dodgers are getting? 2 top 50 prospects for 2 of the best stars in the game? I understand club control and all that, but this early reported return seems enough for maybe Trea, not Trea and Max.
Scherzer is a pure rental so he didn’t command as much as Turner. And Turner is only a year and a half away from free agency too. I think it was a fair deal all around. Dodgers certainly didn’t overpay though.
Maybe lux is included
Nope, it looks like it’s Ruiz, Gray, Casey and Carrillo. They weren’t going to sell low on Lux, especially if Seager can bolt this offseason and Trea Turner after next season. Friedman is going to exhaust all his options.
Scherzer is not a pure rental. Could always reup.
Eat it Dodgers. Evil Empire of the West.
Cry more.
For all the Friedman haters, which I never understood, he just did a mic drop!
He just sold the farm!
@Balk “he just sold the farm”
So this is coming from a Giants fan.
Who the hell needs a farm when all of your star players are young and under contract????
Walker Buehrle
Cody Bellinger
Mookie Betts
Will Smith
Gavin Lux
Julio Urias
Dustin May
Not to mention countless other players signed for next couple seasons who are not young. They have plenty of time to replenish the farm, plus their huge payroll
To think the Pirates could’ve had basically this exact same package 2 years ago for a guy currently rotting in jail…
Anthony, they apologize for making you write two articles on Scherzer being traded
So the Dodgers acquired Max Scherzer, Trea Turner, and Danny Duffy today, and the Giants and Padres acquired absolutely no one. That’s a big flex by Friedman over Zaidi/Preller. Big bank crush littler banks.
Sherzer will flop. Turner will do well
Right!
and the winning lotto ticket numbers for this week are…? Nostradamus?
It’s SD’s fault. They half stepped. They’re always trying to acquire stars without including top elite prospects. They should’ve gone all in and included Abrams and/or Gore, Hassell, or Capusano. Should’ve come correct and sealed this up last night or this morning.
Friedman didn’t just slap Preller. He completely destroyed him.
Lemme guess: Preller is again insisting on including Hosmer in the deal while sending no $$$.
Like Wil Myers in the potential Mookie trade.
Btw, it’s interesting that the two players acquired in the Cincinnati deal for Puig, Kemp, Wood, and Farmer were used in packages to get Betts, Scherzer, and Turner. Such a great trade for Friedman, who at the time was accused of pinching pennies by some Dodger fans. All the Reds have to show for it is Farmer.
I will miss the youngsters heading to Washington. But if I can get over losing a personal, favorite like Alex Verdugo, I can get over this.
It was funny to see Madres fans trying to rationalize including Hosmer in a trade for Max the other day.
I hate the Dodgers. I hate LA too. F the entire city.
Waaaah
What’s the matter cupcake? Disappointed?
Living rent free in your head! I love it. Bad mad but just know your team will always suck.
Rent free in your head. Lmao!!
I wanted Turner, but not Sherzer. POST sticky stuff he looks off.
Yeah he beat Phillies today, again!
“I didn’t want Scherzer” man who are you kidding? You have a team full of injured pitchers and you don’t want a future HOFer?! No one here believes you. The grapes are super sour today.
Desperate Padres Fans: “Any word on the legal status surrounding Scherzer’s love life?”
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Hard to believe that unloading Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig on the insane Reds in 2018 directly led to Scherzer and Trea Turner tonight – depending upon the weight given Josiah Gray by the Nats.
Also gave them the prospect, jeter downs to help get betts
I always loved that trade. I remember some Dodger fans ripping Friedman for that trade. To me, it was clear Kemp had hit the wall after the All-Star break, and Puig was already in decline. Downs and Gray develop in Dodger system, improve their trade value, and are dealt. Similar to Verdugo as an MLB rookie and Ruiz now. AF waited until the right time to move all four. Ha, some fans wanted Verdugo traded for Kluber and Lux/Ruiz traded for Felipe Vasquez. Trust in Friedman, despite the curious you-know-who signing last winter.
Agree 100% he traded kemp and puig at the right time. As for Bauer, if this whole fiasco regarding him doesn’t happen. Not sure dodgers make this trade
Sherzer will backfire in LA, they constantly bring in underperforming veteran pitchers
Padres fans sooooooooo salty today.
Well they can’t all go out and get guys who immediately need TJS or can’t face a lineup a third time.*
But don’t worry, I’m sure Chris Paddack will finally develop that third pitch in 2027.
*or a first or second time, either, given that mid-5 ERA.
Not a dodger fan, but I’d be excited about this trade as one to get them to the playoffs & WS. But I thought the Dodgers were close to the cap.
There is no cap. There’s a tax, and they’re already miles above it.
What will Sherzer likely resign at? 3 years/ $60M?
No, 30 mil
He’s definitely not taking 20/mil per.
Also, LA gets Kershaw, Seager, Betts, and possibly Knebel back next week.
OOOOH KNEBEL
KNibbles
This joke is on the Dodgers fans. If max & trey sign up for 2022 hots dogs are 35 bucks each.
That’s not how it works. Turner is not a FA this winter, money coming off the books, and attendance will be around 4 million. Thanks for your concern, but we Dodger fans won’t go hungry at the ballpark.
Yes, because that is what Dodger fans are worried about. Vendor pricing at the games.
Giants and Madres fans grasping at straws!! Such a show.
Why isn’t Julio Urias mentioned as a starter n the playoffs? And David Price is mentioned? Does this writer o ow the Dodger roster? Give me a break!
I’m guessing it’s because of Julio’s dominance in the playoffs last year coming out of the pen
This return feels light for the Nationals.
The return feels light for BOTH Turner and Scherzer. Im not impressed. Also not impressed with the Nats inability to keep their star players. Need to overpay earlier in their careers to keep the cost reasonable later on
I don’t know why Rizzo would package Turner with Scherzer. Seems like you would get more if you did it separately
Exactly! Turner is worth Gray and Ruiz at minimum on his own!
Agreed, a buy Trea get Max free deal here
Friedman would never pay Gray plus Ruiz separately for Trea Turner alone. He has 1.5 years left. But you may be right in that another team may have paid that kind of price. But who knows. Maybe not. I just wonder how much Scherzer had a say where exactly he was going, and if he chose the Dodgers over the Padres.
Scherzer is 37 and has had a taste of winning A ring,so iam sure he definitely had the say into where he would wrather play if traded.
Then he shouldn’t get him. Turner is a top 15 overall offensive player in baseball. I’d be truly pissed if I was a Nats fan. This, no matter how you slice it, is bad for baseball.
LOL I was hoping Casablanca Rick would package TA & a top 20 for Trea & $
Actually, I’ve always wanted to see a team do a “I’ll fill every hole on your playoff roster for your best prospect plus” type of trade.
I was thinking more like the Pirates who only have mediocre stuff to trade. Instead of getting a bunch of lotto tickets in small deals, trade 5 guys to one team for a top prospect. Quality over quantity.
There’s probably a bunch of money involved too.
Nats might’ve really wanted Ruiz. Asked for Sherzer/ Ruiz and Dodgers said…
If Bauer spends the rest of the season in a metaphorical MLB prison cell AND the Dodgers win the World Series, does he get a ring?
Yes.
And then he can admire it in 2022 when he is an actual prison cell
Yes I believe any contribution, even a single AB would qualify one for a ring when that team wins it all. Someone correct me please if wrong.
Bauer will get a bar of soap to use in the shower.
It’s totally up to the players and/organization. There are no rules that would require he receive a ring.
Well, the trash cans didn’t get a ring when the Astros cheated their way into a WS win, so Bauer shouldn’t get one either.
Yeah, that’s true. I don’t remember COVID getting a ring last year either from the Dodgers.
So you are going to blame a killer virus for a WS win? Brilliant, yet so pathetic.
Well i know who would’ve grossly overpaid for Gallo tomorrow, nice job JD
Is there any profession worse at their jobs than baseball reporters? Weathermen? Priests? Lawyers?
Bitter online commenter?
This has a WWE feel to it not gonna lie.Def does not seem authentic right now,But’ If Rizzo gets a huge haul it will def legitimize things.That Duffy transaction though is ridiculous lol
Duffy injuries aside could honestly be the great under the radar trade this season.
You can’t honestly call that a trade lol
Ruiz, Gray, Casey, Carrillo?!
While Ruiz/Gray are top flight prospects – It seems the Casey choice is wasted, and Carrillo I guess they like his K rate. I would think they would have hauled a little more than this.
Dodgers really scored so with Duffy, Scherzer and Turner…..now it turns to who they “option”, or DF’a now…to make room. Carrillo, Gray were on 40.
Even tho Gray got rocked by the Giants in his outing, there was something about that kid. He’s a newbie, but hopefully he’ll turn into something for the Nats. Maybe he kinda reminds me of Goodin.
Dodgers already DFA’d DJ Peters. They’re good. Gray, Ruiz and Carrillo were already on 40 man roster.
LOL How could they DF’A DJ Peters many commenters here had him as the next great power hitter.
Problem with Peters is he strikes out about 50% of the time, at the Major League level.
After the McCourt ownership fiasco, Dodger fans deserve this many times over.
And to think back in 1978 the Reds were told by Commissioner Bowie Kuhn the trade for Vida Blue couldn’t happen due to unfair competitive balance.
I was born that year and I’m a Reds fan so I’m the Player to be named later they got instead of Vida Blue
David Stern did the same when the Lakers traded for Chris Paul 10 years ago or so
Congratulations Padres fans, you get to keep all those prospects that are untradable in your hearts. You didn’t get Scherzer but you still have Gore, Abrams, Campusano and Hassell
And zero championships. At least Tatis flips his bat real high. That’s kinda neat.
The Padres next/ first championship will come with no
asterisks though.
This just in…toronto to land Scherzer, Turner, and The contracts of Corbin and Strasburg
What a panic move by Andrew Friedman & this will leave the Dodgers shorthanded in the Catching position with only Will Smith & Austin Barnes on the 40 man Roster & no young Catching Prospect even close to possibly reaching the Big Leagues in the next few years & leaves the only other Catcher in the Dodgers Organization being 34 yr old Tim Federowicz who has been a big league bust.
The Trade of Josiah Gray & Gerardo Carrillo will leave the Dodgers short handed in pitching prospects who are close to the big leagues..
The only young player who is not a top 30 Dodger Prospect is Donovan Casey..
Nice Selling out on the Dodgers Future Andrew Friedman you smuck, You panicked & signed Trevor Bauer & now you panic again & sell out the Dodgers Future for what a 37 yr old who won’t be around very long & guy who can walk after the 2022 season.
Andrew Friedman you are a moronic fool
Walker Buehler, Julio Urias, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, Bobby Miller, Ryan Pepiot, and the returning Caleb Ferguson. Plenty of young, controllable pitching along with those Clayton and Max guys.
Position players Diego Cartaya, Michael Busch, Andy Pages. Miguel Vargas. The future is bright, as is the present.
Btw, I watched Scherzer today and he was outstanding. Figuring he signs on for two more years. that extends the Dodgers’ future.
So…how long have you been a Dodger fan?
Yeah, I think Friedman is way smarter than you. He’s trying to win a championship THIS YEAR. You don’t get trophies for having the most prospects.
Golly, George Ruth, how can a person with such an iconic name be so wrong, so often.
Well Dodgers won yet another trade
So, I guess Seager will be on 3B next year or on another team.
Trea Turner can play 2B and the outfield. There is nothing problematic about this trade for the Dodgers.
Why do that when Turner is a better fielder?
Because Seager is homegrown and has never played another position.
I would think that a Friedman team wouldn’t lessen their chance to win by having the better defensive player play out of position just because the other guy is homegrown.
It’s common courtesy. It would be seen as disrespectful to displace Seager, a homegrown star. It was the same reason why A-Rod moved for Jeter, even though Rodriguez was better defensively
What’s more important: World Series trophies or “common courtesy?”
The Dodgers just won one of those with Seager at SS
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@Fred But are they statistically more likely to win one this year with Turner at shortstop or Lux at shortstop?
Seager will probably be on another team, marlins fan. Boras is his agent.
If only the Dodgers could trade or outright DFA JANSEN I’d feel like they just won it all. Adios to Roberts too!!
Judging by this comment section, I think the Dodgers overtook the Yankees as the most hated team in baseball. A lot of jealously in here
I love it. Giants and Padres fans are usually such soft spoken folks. Like accountants and librarians. They both now have decent teams so it makes it an actual kinda rivalry now. Until the Dodgers just kicked sand in both of their faces.
Those prospects were probably what it should take to get Turner alone, but Scherzer, too? Dodgers fleeced the Nationals.
All unproven prospects for of the best at their positions. Crazy.
Nats are absolute morons
I think they could have got better than Gray for Turner alone
And how is it fair that the Dodgers can have what, a half billion dollar payroll that’s some how fair? This is why they’re HAS to be a hard salary cap in the next CBA and why there will be a strike.
When you WIN the Front office battle the way the dodgers did seems almost meaningless to play the games lol and I was excited for Caesar & Tepera scoop!! This takes nascar silly season NEXT LEVEL
What is nascar?
Why would players support a hard cap that will be used to suppress their salaries?
It could work if you also implement a floor to get the cheap teams to spend…anything to change this, this is just absurd.
Cry more please.
Poor Soto. Poor Pads fans who were teased with Sherzer. Poor Nats fans. Congrats to Dodger fans.
Rooting for the Phils to take the NL East (I live nearby in Pottstown). I feel bad that Max did that to you in the first game, but that second game was one of the most astounding comebacks I’ve ever seen. Let’s hope the Phils build on the momentum.
Any word on Harper? I haven’t checked because I’ve been preoccupied with other baseball news.
Harper is all good. He’s been dealing with a back injury all year so when he twinged a bit, they took him out as a precautionary measure. He’ll likely play tomorrow. Hoskins’ injury seemed to be more concerning though.
If you listen closely, you can still hear Preller trying to offload Hosmer’s contract to anyone who will pick up the phone
Cam, I would like to get a small group of Dodger fans to chip in some Hosmer money and send it to Preller.
Just take it out of the money Machado owes that one Dodger fan for betting that the Padres would win a World Series first.
I saw Hosmer on Offer up.
Nats got hosed and are a joke
Giants won the series in SF but the Dodgers won the war. SF can go pack it in now. Hope the Giants fan base won’t all jump off the Golden Gate all at once. That would be an environmental disaster greater than Covid & global warming combined.
Dodgers OP and need to be nerfed
No doubt Gray is a top pitching prospect but he might lose velocity and sit more at 93 than 95 eventually once he fills out in addition to stuff/movement flattening
He looks like a young Julio Teheran to me. A guy who is good early on but starts losing velo and stuff at 25/26
Says the armchair pro scout
Not hard to project really, but also not an exact science. A lot depends on the discipline/drive of the player
Geezus, seems like a huge haul so far for a couple months of Scherzer and a little over a year of Turner. They must be pretty confident of re-signing Max.
Has nothing to do with signing or not signing Max
Yeah that’s the problem. That’s a haul for rentals (plus a year of Turner).
Have to believe this means they simply QO Seager and take the draft pick after this season
Scherzer reportedly nixed the deal with San Diego because he didn’t want to play with Manny Machado & Fernando Tatis because of their lack of class & immaturity. Don’t blame Scherzer, blame the kids.
“Reportedly”? Care to cite the report or the reporter? Didn’t think so… keep clicking thumbs-up dumbshits.
I gave him a thumbs up because you sound like an a$$ clown.
Guess that removing the August 31 waiver period trades did what it was supposed to do…..I gotta sit and recap all these moves in my brain….
Who got Refsnyder again?????
You leave Robert Daniel out of this.
Dodgers would’ve been better off trying to use this package of players to get Jose Ramirez.
No. Max and Turner every day of the week and twice on Tuesdays. I love Jose but Max is a beast and Turner was icing on the cake.
Trea Turner might be the most underrated player in baseball. Do people not understand how good he really is?
Hard cap MLB. Dodgers have turned into the Yankees.
Haha. Bums had that a** spanked and are in panic mode. Dumping some solid prospects and eating big money. But…. they needed to do something to improve their mindset. They wilt under pressure. We’ve been watching it for years.
Just wait until your flash in the pan rotation burns our the rest of the way and we win the division by 10 games
You mad bro? Cheer up the Giants magic number is only 57 games. LOL!!!
You are stupid as well. The series is split 8-8. You just got your heart crushed because your GM will not go all out this year. He wants to wait for the window 3 years from now. He is probably pissed that you guys are competing now. He wanted to trade for more AAAA talent but can’t now because you limp wristed fans might be a little upset.
The talent return looks light until you factor in the money… which I’m sick of doing. Nats fans care about the players they lost and the prospects coming back, not about the money the Lerner family saved. As a corporate takeover, this trade is spectacular. As a baseball trade, this doesn’t sit right. Eh. At least we got to see what Mike Rizzo looks like in sell mode.
The one bright spot out of this fiasco it blocks the Yankees from winning a ring for 2 additional Cole yrs.Heavy investment Neutered
The Yankees looked to be doing a fine job of not winning a ring in 2021 already.
True True!!! But Cashman went heavy on the beef purchases today & Friedman said hold my beer
Cole has been doing a perfectly fine job of that himself. 31 earned runs (33 total) in 59 2/3’s innings since the calendar flipped to June
You mean since they banned the sticky stuff?
they only had two months left of Scherzer control anyway. They can always bring him back. All signs show that he loves it there. They need to lock up Soto, so probably couldn’t afford long term deals with both Turner and Soto.
Honestly, the Strasburg contract is hampering their plans IMO.
Hampering is an understatement.
My read as a Nationals fan is that ownership wanted Trea Turner gone so Rizzo had to scramble put together the best return he could find.
Why would they “want” an All Star gone?
Preller Preller Preller Blah Blah Preller.
Smoke and mirrors…………….
MLB has become a joke.
Why?
Meanwhile SF Giants and San Diego Padres GMs consider swapping spit & throw back jerseys.
Nice!
I bet San Diego is shocked not only Max but Turner as well , 2 mins after they thought they had traded for him ,side note pick up good arm from kc as well go dodgers
They got Duffy for less than a bag of balls
If fully healthy
1b: Max Muncy
2b: Trea Turner
ss Corey Seager
3b Justin Turner
Lf AJ Pollock
cf Chris Taylor
rf Mookie Betts
C Will Smith
Honestly, Bellinger can get a start when there’s a right handed pitcher that doesn’t have command of the high fastball.
@BRUINBLUH
Honestly Bellinger hasn’t earned his spot on the 25 man roster. I would send him to AAA Oklahoma City for a month. I don’t trust anyone that looks stoned out of his mind 24/7.
At the very least, Bellinger comes of the bench as a GOLD GLOVE CF defensive replacement and he can pinch hit still, if we need a dinger or bust versus a RHP late. More realistically, he still has time to possibly figure it out. Obviously, the dude is still super talented. Same goes for Lux. They might both never hit well again though, so having Trea Turner through 2022 (and potentially longer) goes a long way toward protection if they both don’t figure it out.
Some people just aren’t as “bad ass” as they think.
Ugh! I’m not sure I like this as Nats fan. Getting 1 of Gray/Ruiz for Scherzer alone would’ve been good and add in maybe a Corillo/someone else with that and I would’ve been happy with that. For Turner alone I think Gray & Ruiz would’ve been good enough, but for the both of them?? I would’ve been greedy and see if I can pry someone else as well; I really wanted Gavin Lux as one of the few coming back, I like Tony Gonsolin as well, even though he’s out until probably July 2022 I love Dustin May, he has a great arm, I would’ve pushed for the Dodgers to include one of those 3 as well. And really, what’s the worst case that happens?? The Dodgers say no, so you pull Turner off the table because you can always trade him in the winter or at next’s years deadline and then just put Scherzer on the table and do one of 2 things since he HAS TO be traded since he has no QO offer attached:
A) Just negotiate with the Dodgers about Scherzer alone or the better idea
B) Go back to the Padres and re-negotiate with the mad scientist AJ Preller. Maybe seeing his closest and divisional rival be this close to acquiring Scherzer, maybe he ups the ante and includes McKenzie Gore or CJ Abrams,, but at the worst case you still have the original offer on the table (which I believe was Paddock and 2 other minor leaguers) so you take that.
So, I know that was long but to recap: I like the return, but I think they might have been able to get a tad more. 1 of Lux/Gonsolin/May and I think it would’ve been a good trade.
Nats likely wouldn’t have been able to get a top 50 prospectlike Ruiz and Gray for Max alone.. Even good rentals just aren’t returning elite prospects alone.
I think the Nats come out of this super strong for no other reason then clearing the books.Can sign soto LT they got back some strong pieces & turns Rizzo into an instant BUYER this off-season.
Gray looks like solid potential, I’m bummed we gave him up, but we are getting 2 of the best back. Hope these prospects are fun to watch the next 5- ? years 🙂
This was the max they thought they could get. You are clueless if you do not think Washington went to San Diego after the Dodgers proposed this to see if they could get more. This is what they do for a living. I do not even want to know what you do for living when you post a comment like this.
Dodgers have both Turners. They are stacked. Wow.
Several Maxes as well.
To Nats fans, nothing but respect, I feel your pain. As a Dodgers fan, I look forward to getting to see these two on a regular basis. (especially considering One is an all time great and the other one of the most underrated all-stars.
Thanks! Please take care of them! I wish they were coming back to DC instead of New York in August! Hopefully Turner comes back real soon from the Covid list.
Can’t imagine how painful it must be to be a Padres fan right now.
Probably not that bad. The Dodgers have Bauer on the books for 100 mil, Scherzer is 37 and coming off a groin injury..his arm could blow out at any time. This is a highly risky move for the Dodgers.
Keep telling yourself that……
Wrong
Bauer is only getting partial pay and once mlb suspends him indefinitely he gets no pay.
I’m sure the Dodgers have an idea what’s coming down from mlb regarding Bauer
The Dodgers potentially have Bauer on the books and they’re still out here getting the best available starter and Trea Turner as a bonus.
Seems to me it doesn’t faze the Dodgers FO one bit that Bauer’s situation remains unresolved at the moment.
Ah the insecurities in these comments just say it: I hope they don’t win because My life is bad enough
Exactly!
Exactly! I can’t give you enough likes for this comment.
This. I never knew so many Giants and Madres fans were so close to jumping until today. I love it so much.
Gotta go all in if you want a real championship.
WaPo just reported done deal.
Watching the Dodgers make moves is like watching your most annoying friend run a franchise in OOTP. If you told me that Trea Turner would be on the Dodgers by August, I certainly wouldn’t have believed you.
Sooooooo what do you think the Padres countermove will be?! Admit defeat, take their ball and go home? Or….Call every team in the league and start dangling prospects like a dime piece in the red light district!
Friedman just took the heat off of himself big time for the 2021 season for his previous misdeeds of Bauer, Betts etc. getting both Trea Turner & Max for some unproven prospects & taking these two away from your competition is his biggest & best move as the Dodger’s GM or whatever title he holds.
Misdeed of Betts? Pretty sure he was a major factor in their title.
Betts is a misdeed. That’s news to me.
Ahh yes, that mistake of trading for and re-signing a guy who’s put up something like 9 WAR in 137 games, played all-world defense in RF, has a 143 OPS+ since joining the team, and was a huge part of the team winning a World Series with mostly just his legs and glove.
Wait, so the Dodgers have to pay $120 million for 1/2 year of Scherzer? He is going to be on their payroll until 2028 even if he leaves after this season? Congratulations Dodgers?
You’re not very good at reading, are you? This is what is says. His deferred money from last years is not money owed for 2021
“ The Dodgers are assuming the entirety of Turner’s remaining salary, as well as the money owed to Scherzer for the remainder of the 2021 season, reports Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post (on Twitter).”
F**K THE DODGERS!
I love your tears!!!
Have an issue? Here’s a tissue……
Better keep that tissue. You’re going to need it after the Dodgers lose to the Padres in the wild card round.
There is so much wrong with this trade that makes MLB look like a complete joke.
Salary cap anyone??
But when the Padres were making their series of deals, it was because they had a good farm system and were “going for it”. They weren’t buying their team. Right?
so buying that team was OK too?
Just curious. Because the dodgers are doing exactly what the Padres have done the last 2 years, using their farm to improve the mlb team. And Padre fans have insisted they aren’t buying their team
checking the scales
It’s funny to see NL fans whine about the Dodgers the way AL fans have whined about the Yankees for decades. No, it’s not fun to watch one uber rich owner/group buy every other team’s best player at will.
I love it. So many grown men crying. Many wives are confused tonight.
It almost makes the sport irrelevant to a degree. Every year 2 teams get all the best players. Plucking all time fan favorites Every year from every other team.
Then you have to wait 20, 30, 50, 100, or never for a championship and treasure it for the rest of your life because it’s probably never going to happen again in your lifetime.
Like everything else it’s all about $ and according to ESPN talking about the Yankees and Dodgers 99% of the time pays better.
At least baseball is not as bad as the NBA yet (although the Dodgers are looking like the Lakers all of a sudden)
I guess the NFL is more competitive, but the refs are so biased there it can be unwatchable at times.
Nothing we can do, but hope they crash and burn I guess
Been a roller coaster day here. Glad that Scherzer decided to pick up his marbles & come to the Dodgers instead of those pretenders in SF & SD.
Pencil the Dodgers to win the WS, even w/o the criminal Bauer.
I have a bad feeling that Zaidi will sneak in while we’re all sleeping and steal this trade away. Does anyone have eyes on Farhan?
Not his style. He is waiting for his window 3 years from now.
This latest Dodger move has me wondering if they will trade for LeBron and Curry too. I guess the new CBA might want to revisit the competitive balance concept!!
This trade now all but confirms that Seager won’t be re-signed after this season by the Dodgers. They just got more-than-capable replacement for him now…..
Turner can play 2B. This is just insurance.
I know he can. But even the Dodgers have a budget. Since Bauer is now saddled with legal issues, he will not opt out of his contract unless he is criminally charged and his contract gets voided. That is like $40m commitment right there. I just don’t see the Dodgers making a room in their budget to retain both Seager and Turner….
Edit: Unless the Dodgers renounce the rights to Bellinger, that is….
I think it’s quite likely they keep Seager and let Trea Turner walk after 2022.
Seager is younger, after all. But there’s no reason the couldn’t just decide to keep both. Huge TV deal and massive attendance doesn’t hurt things.
I think the plan, or at least option, has been to re-sign Seager and move him to third base after Justin Turner’s contract is done. I wouldn’t be surprised if acquiring Trea is a depth move, considering that is how the Dodgers have operated for years now. Depth all around, with a willingness to move players around and in and out of the starting lineup. The Dodgers are smart. Friedman is smart. They think long-term, and the owners have the financial resources to compete with anyone. Initially, Guggenheim went with Friedman’s “spend less” approach, but it seems like he has been given more than the green light to flex their financial muscles. It seems like, beginning with the Betts extension, Friedman has been directed to use their financial resources to stay on top. Speculation on my part, but the Dodgers spending has changed dramatically in recent years regarding trades and free agency.
The plan last year when they were going after Rendon was to move JT to 1B, and that could still happen. It will be very interesting to see how they play this with Seager and T. Turner. It’s a kind of a reach to call T. Turner a depth move. He’s a SS who at one time played some 2B. He’s much more valuable to the team playing at his premium position.
Every team is going to hit a financial wall at some point. Where that is for the Dodgers we don’t know but I’m sure it’s wrong to believe that Friedman’s resources are unlimited, and ownership simply doesn’t care how much he spends or much CBT they pay.
Dodgers are profitable no matter how much they spend and if their owners care more about winning than bottom line (they are wealthy many times owner with other ventures) they will continue to spend.
I can see other teams now trying to extract more from the Padres & Giants who have to feel the nose tightening if this dodger trade is a fine deal … Go get em, Angels.
I don’t see the Padres parting with Abrams for Raisel Iglesias.
In May, I got 50-1 odds for the Giants to win the WS. Bring on Turner and Scherzer. It’s going to be fun to collect this one!
I don’t know why it’s bothering me they didn’t mention Julio Urias in the Dodgers rotation. Other than that, substantial reporting guys.
I agree. The omission of Urias was odd. Just an oversight, I’m sure, but the guy is currently tied for wins in MLB and has been outstanding all season. That’s a pretty significant oversight, especially when Gonsolin and Price are mentioned.
Exactly I was like Gonsolin and Price get mentioned but not the Wins leader or someone actually pitching major innings for us? Maybe they will fix/edit the article once the teams announce the trades!
Yo, what’s your opinion on Gonsolin? I feel like if he can start to pitch more than 4 innings an outing the Dodgers can use him as a piece that gets some prospects back to the farm. I think he’s a weak link on this current pitching staff and I’m way more sold on keeping May.
What if we wake up and the Giants acquire Max Scherzer
I must be in the minority, because I am thrilled to see the Dodgers draining their farm system. It hurts to see them get Trea, as I am (was) a fan of his; but in the end the Dodgers are weakening their long term success to try and catch the Giants- and I couldn’t be more excited! Let’s see if the Dodgers can do anything with Max and Trea, or did they just double down and lose these top prospects for nothing. With that being said, I’m betting big on the Nats being a force for years to come with the prospects they are getting from this fire sale. I love baseball, and especially the trade deadline!
Draining the system? You obviously don’t know much about the Dodgers farm system. Carrillo is a reliever who is wild. Casey is at best a 4th outfielder for a non contending team. Ruiz is very good but blocked by Smith and Cartaya who is better is right behind him. Dodgers have 4 top end starters in Buehler, Urias, May and Gonsolin all in their mid 20s with a farm system loaded with great pitching prospects. So unfortunately the trading of these prospects doesn’t hurt the Dodgers much at all.
That’s not true belly…this does hurt the farm. You got a 2 month rental, and an extra 1 year with turner, for mlb ready talent. If your so deep in pitching prospects why not trade them off? Cause no one wants them. Most prospects are busts. These top two will not be.
STFU!
The Dodgers had one pitcher in the top 100 MLB prospects, and that was Gray. Now they will have none. They had two position players in the top 100. One of them was Ruiz. Now they will have one. Their farm was ranked 11th before this trade. My guess is it isn’t going to look better after it. The cupboard might not be bare but it also isn’t loaded with goodies anymore. Most of those have graduated to the bigs or were traded. They had some work to do down on the farm before this trade. The need is even greater now.
I guarantee that all three of the west coast teams are worried about one thing and that’s how to beat the Brewers. The Brewers have a three headed monster and in a seven game series do you think they can beat them? Good luck lol.
I don’t think all three are worried about anything but making it to the playoffs first. Giants surely don’t care about anything, they are playing with house money. Weren’t even supposed to be where they are today. Lol
Muted
Funny, the Pirates took two out of three from the Giants in San Francisco. Milwaukee just swept them in Pittsburgh out scoring them 28 to 3. Go ahead and think you have the best teams. We will see come October.
October is a whole different beast kid. The pirates, taking two of three means nothing. It’s like me saying Brewers got beat by the Rockies and we just swept them! No bro. Not the way the game works
“David Price and Tony Gonsolin as options for a fourth game and/or multi-inning work out of the bullpen.” That was the worst comment ever. Julio Urias has shown he´s on the top 3 right now for the Dodgers and it´s not even mentioned by the guy that wrote this note, that shows that he knows nothing about baseball. Julio would have had more wins if it wasn´t for the awful Dodgers bullpen and awful closer Jansen.
LA is heading towards a covid lockdown. Going to see a super team playing in an empty stadium.
I believe they’re called veterans.
I’m sure I’m in the minority, but the return for both scherzer and turner seems a little light. I know Ruiz and gray are top 100 prospects, but I think in getting two top 15 mlb players, at least a gonsolin or lux should have gone back too. Good job by the dodgers… damn do I hate them lol
Dodgers being the Dodgers
And that’s a good thing. Not a Dodgers fan, but love to see teams playing to win. Same with the Padres.
Insane trade. What I’m scared of is I have a feeling this is gonna light a fire under all those dodgers players that have been underperforming and they’re going to start raking. What’s scary is bellinger, betts etc haven’t been as good as past seasons and the team is still killing it.
Excellent post. Yes this lineup with all it’s injuries shouldn’t be blanked or score 1 measly run. Hopefully Turner, the new one, like you said lights a fire under the sleepwalking lineup
If the Dodgers get the Mookie Betts version that was on fire before the IL and Seager from last year, together with Trea Turner they’re going to score a lot more runs. Just hoping the pitching physically holds up.
I like it both ways. Ruiz was never going to start over Smith and had to be traded. And both Ruiz & Gray are talented, but not bullet-proof.
A Padres insider is making allusions to the fact that AJ Preller was just trying to up the value of a pitcher that the Padres lit up on…
Interesting if true.
They had a deal in place. It looks like the only holdup was Scherzer not agreeing to waive his NTC. For the Padres. Any speculation about Preller just trying to drive up the price is ridiculous banter from people trying to lessen the blow of the Padres thinking they had Scherzer only to lose him…to the Dodgers, no less. They lost Scherzer to a division rival and the team they are obsessed with overtaking. That has to hurt. So now the Padres faithful are resorting to saying “well, it was all according to plan and Preller never wanted him anyway.” Pretty childish rationalizing IMO. Of course, given the way things have gone recently, I’ll believe the deal is complete when the deal is officially complete.
My guess is Scherzer would have waived his NTC for the Padres in the end if the Dodgers hadn’t made the Nats an offer they could not refuse.
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Preller says different.
Do you have a link proving that Scherzer refused to waive his no-trade clause for the Padres Chief Two Hands?
Wow. Didn’t Nats initially acquire Turner from some west coast team years back?
Padres I believe.
The Padres drafted T. Turner in the first round, then traded him the following year as a PTBNL no less. The only player of value they got back in that trade was Wil Meyers. No mulligans in baseball.
I really like this move because it sets up the Dodgers for next year as well. They can decide to go with Turner at SS, let Seager walk, but give him the QO and get a pick out of it as no way Seager signs it.
Hopefully I’m not talking out of my butt as far as the Dodgers being able to get a pick of Seager walks. I think Turner is the better and safer option at SS long term anyway if they have to decide between him and Seager for a long term deal.
Of course Seager isn’t taking a QO, but getting one doesn’t mean they are going to let him walk. We’ll know more about the FO’s thinking when both players are healthy and on the field at the same time.
Just saying, this trade sets them up nicely for the future, they can effectively add a comp pick to the deal if they don’t want to bring back Seager due to getting Turner. Knowing the Dodgers, they’ll probably use draft a good prospect with it.
It kind of kicks a can down the road a piece, in that they have SS covered if Seager doesn’t sign back with the Dodgers, but only for a year, then they are back in the market for a SS unless Lux fills out in that position.
Trea Turner is looking forward to infecting the NL West now
The dodgers now have two all-star shortstops smh
If the trade finalizes, this is a good trade for both teams.
As a Dodgers fan, Scherzer and Turner are just “wow” additions; but, Ruiz is legit #1 offense-minded catcher, and I can easily see Gray as a #3 with great character and compete who only just started pitching (which means he might develop into a #2). I am bummed to see them go. And what I’d tell Nats fans is that while there are no guarantees, Dodgers were not giving up either just for Scherzer. Easily the best two prospects the Dodgers have given up in any recent trade deadline deals. No question.(Knowing it would take two of the top prospects, I’d have preferred to give up Busch).
But I also do believe that the Dodgers system is underrated. MLB Pipeline has not caught up. They have Ruiz at 41, Gray at 42 and Busch at 81. Baseball America is more current and they have Ruiz at 16, Miller at 56, Cartaya at 57, Gray at 59 and Busch at 79. I can see Pepiot in the next Top 100. And Vargas can legit rake and could make the jump soon enough. But really, it is the depth is still crazy.
Stop it! There farm is bottom half now.
I love how these internet wieners say last years WS championship isn’t legit as if they didn’t watch every second of the post season and root for their team until they got busted.
Andrew Friedman SCREWED the Dodgers with trading away Keibert Ruiz because he’s the only young catching prospect that is on the cusp of being in the Major Leagues & there is NOT another young prospect even close to being close to being ready for the Big Leagues.
You all should think about what happens if Will Smith or Austin Barnes goes down for anytime since they’re the only Catchers on the Dodgers 40 man roster now. The Dodgers would have to Designate someone for assignment just to select the contract of either Tim Federowicz, Hamlet Marte or Juan Zabala. Federowicz is 34, Marte is 27 & Zabala is 22.
It’s too bad that Friedman made this move because he panicked that Scherzer would go to SD or SF.
Friedman is a moronic fool
Not only that, but I’m watching Josiah Gray pitch his butt off right now, against the Phils.
Gray pitched well against the Giants as well, after he settled in a bit.
What they gave up for an aging pitcher is questionable in most expert opinion.
Just claimed Chad Wallach off waivers, third catcher solved. He’s not good but not a guarantee anyone goes down and they should be fine if the injury is temporary. Cantata has better tools than Ruiz and also is having a monster season. Hunter Fedducia in AA has a minuscule k rate and good walk rate, with a career high 8 HRs. His batting average is low because of a low BABIP; if the BABIP is .300 He’s hitting .260 and it should be better then that because he is very good at hitting LDs sos y’all y’all has a higher BABIP. He is a third catcher next year and even this year.