The Padres have placed left-hander Blake Snell on the 10-day injured list due to illness. Right-hander Miguel Diaz has been called up from Triple-A in the corresponding move.
Snell was scratched from last night’s start due to his illness, though it is fair to guess that he might not miss more than the minimum 10 days. There aren’t any coronavirus concerns, as Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune notes that Snell tested negative for COVID-19 and is also fully vaccinated.
While perhaps not a long-term absence for Snell, his IL placement catches the Padres at a particularly inopportune time, as Dinelson Lamet is also on the injured list. Ryan Weathers is already lined up to start tomorrow, but another starter will be required since San Diego doesn’t have an off-day until the All-Star break. Diaz is one possibility since he has already been stretched out for multi-inning relief work and has already made two “starts” (in something of a piggyback capacity) this season. The Padres could rely on bullpen games or piggyback outings to get by until Snell is healthy.
In his first season in San Diego, Snell has struggled to a 5.29 ERA over 66 1/3 innings, though he is coming off five shutout innings of the Dodgers in his most recent start. Snell’s 4.12 SIERA is more palatable and he has a .329 BABIP, but he also has a career-worst 13.2% walk rate and 41.5% hard-hit ball percentage.
mrpadre19
He doesn’t want to pitch on the road.
Fever Pitch Guy
Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.
towinagain
Can we pick up an arm oy vey!
Dennis Boyd
Must be headed for TJ, freaking Preller’s fault (LOL)
rct
Rays looking like they cleaned up in that trade.
dan55
The Padres are even against the Rays because the Pham/Cronenworth trade balances this out.
Deleted_User
Still have to see what Xavier Edwards does
Brew’88
Edward’s has 1 HR and 6 RBIs in 700+ ABs in the minors. That won’t play well in today’s MLB.
Deleted_User
Neither of those stats matter for a leadoff hitter.
johnrealtime
None of the players on the rays side have done anything of note so far and Blake has two years to turn things around. Way too early
Deleted_User
Unless Mejia turned things around the Snell trade was always going to take a while to pay dividends for Tampa. That is how win-later trades work.
johnrealtime
I agree. Way too early to evaluate
amk1920
Patino will be a better starter than Snell by next season. Wilcox and Hunt are just a bonus by that point.
rct
Of course it’s early. But Snell has been worth negative WAR and has been one of the worst starting pitchers in the National League. Rays got four prospects, at least two of them looking pretty good (Patino and Wilcox), Hunt being a decent catching prospect, and Mejia filling in pretty well at backup catcher. All four with tons of cheap control, which the Rays covet.
Rays sold high, plus they cleared $41 million off their books over the next three years. They cleaned up so far.
BeforeMcCourt
13% walk rate
And that’s how the Mets are the only teams he’s thrown more than 6 full against in more than 2 seasons. That’s just not good. Seems like he’s praying for the chase and nothing more
BasedBall
He’s a great pitcher, the first time through the order.
His career splits blow up after the 3rd inning.
weaselpuppy
Excellent long reliever profile. Totally jobbed JV out of a Cy Young in Porcellian fashion…one big but not Wow year, then sucks the rest of his career
BeforeMcCourt
hes clearly a talented arm. It’s just amazing how much he nibbles, then is forced to the middle of the plate by working himself into trouble. Seemingly Every Single Game. I have to wonder if the Rays shipped him out because he refused to change his approach and he’s maintaining that same “stubbornness” in SD, if you will
StPeteStingRays
We had to put up with the nibbling for years. Dude needs to get out of his head. He’s capable of pitching like he did in game 6 last year. He’s just never put it all together.
bobtillman
Ya, it’s about time for Blake’s annual summer vacation; usually happens around this time. Guaranteed money this year and next, so he’ll forego his summer solstice in 2022 when he’s pitching for a contract. It is what it is.
bkwalker510
blake snell always looks like he’s sick. he’s pale af with bags under his eyes. he’s too young to look that hurt
Brew’88
Blame a guy for his genetics?
oldmansteve
He looks like Skinny Pete from Breaking Bad
WarkMohlers
He’s got a Steve Buscemi face. And this year he has a Steve Buscemi arm.
Brew’88
he can’t roll like Donny though
HBan22
Goodnight, Sweet Prince
Deleted_User
Trammell trade, Nola trade, Clevinger trade, Moreland trade and Snell trade killing the Padres.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
And there that was that Tatis trade. The one for Cronenworth and Pham. That other one for Darvish.
Deleted_User
@Begone Spenglerd (parody) Why do you change your username and have conversations with yourself Tipsy McStagger aka trillaryhump16 aka AustinKearnsIsNotGod?
HBan22
I think Preller’s good trades have outweighed his bad trades overall. The two that are starting to look somewhat bad for them are the Snell trade and the Nola trade. Preller really, really wanted Nola for whatever reason and overpaid on that one. Maybe you could say the same for Snell. With that being said, he’s made plenty of brilliant trades too. Tatis Jr, Cronenworth/Pham, Grisham/Davies, Darvish/Caratini, Musgrove, Emilio Pagan, Matt Strahm, Tim Hill to name a few that have worked out excellently for them so far. Preller definitely makes some mistakes here and there, but overall it’s hard to argue that he hasn’t done a great job building that team from scratch.
Deleted_User
Bad trades have outweighed his good trades? I listed five duds from the past 2 years alone. If we want to include trades he made before the current window opened we can talk about the Kemp trade, the Upton trade and the Myers trade.
Also, the Pham/Cronenworth trade is still TBD because of Xavier Edwards, Pagan has just been “OK” and Strahm has been injured but since the Padres didn’t give up anyone of value in that trade I’ll give you a pass.
Brew’88
I would rate the Pagan v Margot trade as about equal, maybe a slight edge to Pads. Margot doesn’t offer mu;ch of a bat, but he’s solid enough as a 3 or 4th OF. If the Pads envision themselves as contenders they wanted more in OF than that.. Meanwhile Pagan is really helping the Pads They gave up Margot to build one of best (by performance) RP group in baseball..
Brew’88
They lost Trammel with his BA up to 170, Torrens is at 202. Add them to the Pads lineup and they’d be 9-0 instead of 6-3 vs LA.
HBan22
Trammell hasn’t been great at the MLB level yet, but he was looking like he was putting it all together finally at AAA and has been absolutely raking the past several games. And don’t forget about the underrated Ty France, who I really believe has the ability to be an .850 OPS type of regular. Very useful player, may end up being a more valuable piece than Nola.
Brew’88
Adams has been very good. The Pads had no place for France and Nola was a major upgrade at C. But freakish injuries have held him back
Deleted_User
@Brewer88 Just because a guy has no place in the lineup doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value. And sure they have a place for France. Eric Hosmer is below replacement level.
And frankly they never should have gotten involved in the Reds and Indians’ Bauer trade to begin with.
BeforeMcCourt
Wait wait. The Padres have no place for a corner infielder making league minimum playing with a 122 OPS+ bat. For context, that’s 3 points short of Manny Machado this year, who’s earning a cool 30 million
But across the diamond, Eric Hosmer is also earning 21 million for his -0.1 WAR contribution as we approach the half way mark of the year. So the Padres are paying 51million dollars for production Ty France basically matched offensively and is less than 1..0 wins behind total… while Ty makes ~500K. And you really think the Padres couldn’t use that bat?
You think Manny’s bat could be removed from the Padres and they’d wouldn’t need it? That’s what your argument amounts to Brewer….Someone needs to do some more digging on his own teams stats and who’ve you’ve traded before making proclamations…you’ve been a mess this thread
Brew’88
I’m not high on Hoz or his contract. I’d want more at 1B than Ty as well.
Brew’88
@Remove. Never said France lacked value? They tried to use that value to upgrade at C and RP. Not a great trade for Pads so far.
PadresRocker
When Nola is activated, he’ll be an upgrade over Rivas which is an obvious understatement. He lengthens the lineup and allows Caratini to play less which keeps him fresh and should perk up his bat a bit. He’s had bad injury luck so I think calling his trade a bust is premature.
Deleted_User
@Brewer88 you said that the Padres had no place for France as if that somehow justifies the trade even though it doesn’t and also the only reason the Padres don’t have a place for France is because of the awful awful Hosmer signing. Which next I bet you will try to argue that the Padres had tobsign Hosmer or Machado and Tatis wouldn’t have signed.
Brew’88
@ Remove. By “no place” I meant 3B (and 1B) are locked up with long-term contract guys who are more proven performers so he wouldn’t get much playing time. Seattle had a place for him in the lineup, so the Pads did him a favor?
They could have kept him, and instead traded other assets (that would also draw criticism no doubt!) for help at C or RP.. .
Deleted_User
@Brewer88…
“By ‘no place’ I meant 3B (and 1B) are locked up with long-term contract guys who are more proven performers…”
There is “no place for him” because they gave out bad contracts to other guys. Also, “more proven performers?” Eric Hosmer is below replacement level as I type this comment. Are you saying Ty France couldn’t do better?
“… so the Pads did him a favor?”
They do not have a duty to him. They have a duty to themselves to get the most value possible. By your logic, they should trade all their prospects to the Dodgers or Rays. They would be doing their prospects a favor by sending them to a team that actually knows how to develop young talent.
“They could have kept him, and instead traded other assets for help at C or RP.”
1. Nola isn’t helping at C.
2. OR they could have traded France for someone who would actually help.
ChunkyMonkey
Malibu’s Most Wanted has been a bit of a bust so far.
HBan22
I criticized the Rays a bit at the time of the Snell trade, but I already feel like I was wrong. Patino, Wilcox and Hunt are all looking terrific, and Mejia has been a serviceable backup catcher. I guess the Rays truly do never lose a trade…
Brew’88
Never? Pham and Cronenworth are putting up allstar-worthy seasons. Xavier Edwards has little league power. Renfroe was a bust.
Pagan for Margot…both teams got value sought
HBan22
I wasn’t really being quite literal, just echoing the often repeated “Rays never lose a trade” thing. They’ve made a few mediocre ones but many, many good ones.
Brew’88
They are a well run org for sure.
Deleted_User
When’s the last time Xavier Edwards got out?
BeforeMcCourt
Lol. Edwards has a OBP over 440 and a batting average near 350, while having 80 speed on the 20-80 scouting scale. And you’re looking at his power to make yourself feel good about a trading blowing up in slow motion?
Not every player needs the exact same profile to be successful. Jazz Chisholm has had a pretty solid rookie year, riding his 80 speed to a 113 OPS+. And he NEVER got within even 100 points of a 440 OBP
Brew’88
@ Mcourt.Arguing with yourself again? I never said Edwards couldn’t get on base in A ball, but his thunder numbers are Elvis Andrus-like, if that. Take that for what it is when evaluating value vs Pham and Cron.
As for France. LMAO. Sorry, most GMs would take Manny over Ty. Which is why you’re a Dodger troll on a Padre thread rather than a GM.
Deleted_User
@Brewer88 most GM’s would take Ty over Manny once you factor in their respective salaries.
BeforeMcCourt
I’m such a troll that other Padre fans agree with my take on the very thing you called me a troll on. Interesting
And Edwards is in AA btw buddy. Andrus in AA had an OBP 100 points lower than edwards, with a lower slugging too. So not at all the same level. 450 OBP is elite elite. 350 is nice
You are just not a good evaluator of MiLB talent…
Deleted_User
@BeforeMcCourt I must concede that you have been killing it on this thread.
Weathers getting sent down still had absolutely nothing to do with service time tho.
BeforeMcCourt
The people who got pissed at me in the offseason were mad because I said Myers and Snell are overrated based on small SSS(2020, 1 start in the playoffs), and Lamet was a huge health question to be relying on to be a 100% ace. All those together made me a hater against the Padres and my opinion was baseless on the entire NLW
What do you know? I’m not a huge Padre hater. And Ive been praising the Giants for a good month. I just call it like I see it
I do find it funny Brewer never replies to me after I prove him wrong. Even when he posts elsewhere on the thread. Never a “I see” or “good argument” “good use of that stat”. Nada. Funny
Deleted_User
Rays lost the Myers trade. Not sure why they even let the Nats get involved.
The team that has really burned the Padres in trades is the Indians.
BeforeMcCourt
Rays May have lost the Myers trade, but I wouldn’t say the Padres won that trade either.. they just got fleeced by the Nats not the Rays
Deleted_User
Yeah, the Nats were big winners in that trade .Padres and Rays were both big losers in the trade. Just the Rays were BIGGER losers of the two.
BeforeMcCourt
I don’t know about that. Trea Turner alone makes that a questionable statement. His career bWAR is 21. Myers in SD has produced less than 10 bWAR, in the same number of seasons
There’s obviously more in the equation, but that’s a big value hole SD would have to “replace”
Turner would have looked mighty good at 2B for SD for the last half decade
Brew’88
@Remove. I guess this has become, once again, another unleashing of negative opinions regarding Padre trades in recent years. Favorite past-time it seems by many.
The Pads did lose on the Clevenger deal with Cleveland, but unless you’re saying the Indians knew about his arm issues in advance, then “burned” doesn’t quite fit the bad luck outcome there. And it’s hard to fault the Padres for trying to be good. Fortunately they didn’t seem to give up much in that trade, unless you think a sub 200 BA catcher with serviceable defensive skills is a big desirable.
Franmil Reyes for Trammell was a bit of downer for both teams. Reyes is fine when healthy but has a WAR of just above 1 over last 3 seasons with the Indians. Again, not exactly a fleecing.
Deleted_User
@Brewer88 a large segment of the Padres fantasy still swears the Padres won the Clevinger trade, even after Clevinger needed TJ. Some geniuses even say they automatically won the trade for the sole reason of dumping Austin Hedges even though he was still in arb when they traded him so if he was really a problem the Padres could have simply non-tendered him and then they would still have Quantrill et al to use either on the big club or as trade bait. And when you bring this up to said geniuses they go into hiding.
I Beg To Differ
Padres should be active during the trade deadline looking to acquire some rental starters.
Pineda, Gray, Velazquez.
BeeVeeTee
Snell struggled a lot last season. Snell was averaging around five innings per start last season and he had the one big game in the World Series to boost his trade value. My fellow White Sox fans wanted to see a trade for Snell during the off season when he was on the trade market and I said he was a “buyer beware” since he started to show signs of regression last season. Snell did a stint on disabled list in 2019, which I believed it was for his elbow.
caryloyd
Seems like Tampa burns out young arms. No one is the same after they leave the Rays
StPeteStingRays
It’s more like, Tampa BAY fixes old arms.
sergefunction
I heartily endorse Blake Snell as Skinny Pete. Brilliant casting, that there.
On the mound he seems tortured, can’t get out of his own way. He seems more mired in his head than surveying his surroundings. Odd to think that, but I do every time he takes the ball. It’s that written on him. Anxiety deluxe. The chain smoker type.
Lesser talents must look at that arm in envy, and what they would do with it. Teammate Nick Ramirez for starters. That noodle-armed ex 1B’er has fooled two big league teams now. Imagine him with Snell’s arsenal.
CNichols
He hasn’t pitched since 6/22 so can’t they retroactively place him on the IL for 6/23 and then bring him back on July 4th when his next turn in the rotation is?
Not sure if there are any additional rules about that for pitchers, but I know I’ve seen position players go on the IL and then have the date applied retroactively to the first day that they sat