Five minority owners of the Rays filed a lawsuit against majority owner Stuart Sternberg in the Pinellas County Circuit Court over the weekend (full complaint available here). The action alleges that Sternberg has worked to “squeeze out” minority owners and increase his personal ownership stake in the franchise.
Sternberg, as managing partner of the organization, has a fiduciary duty to prioritize the interests of the partnership over his own. The minority shareholders allege he’s instead used his authority to decline to acquire potentially advantageous interests for the partnership as a whole, only to then personally acquire those interests and increase his own stake in the partnership. The suit alleges Sternberg has increased his personal share in the franchise from 49% in 2004 to 85% by 2020. The complainants additionally claim that Sternberg has placed himself and others on partnership payroll without explanation, among other allegations.
Of most interest to Rays fans is likely their assertion that Sternberg “has been secretly negotiating to sell an interest in the Franchise and Club to a Canadian businessman named Stephen Bronfman and his Montreal Baseball Group.” The complaint alleges that Sternberg has been in clandestine discussions with Bronfman since the “Spring of 2014.”
The Rays announced in June 2019 they were planning to explore an arrangement that would see the organization potentially split its home games between Tampa Bay and Montreal. Unsurprisingly, the City of St. Petersburg stated a few months later they would not grant the organization permission to embark on that concept. With the Rays contractually tied to St. Petersburg through the end of the 2027 season, the organization needed the city’s permission to pursue a split-city arrangement within the next few years. In the immediate aftermath of St. Petersburg’s announcement, a few Rays executives hinted that a post-2027 permanent relocation of the franchise could be a possibility.
The minority shareholders’ allegation that Sternberg was in discussions with a Montreal group five years before the organization’s first announcement about the potential split-city situation has raised eyebrows. Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports that city officials have expressed concerns those alleged conversations violate the organization’s lease agreement with the city, which bars the team from negotiating to play elsewhere during the term of the contract. (Sternberg, Topkin notes, has previously told reporters discussions with Bronfman began in 2017, but whether those discussions ever got specific enough to violate the lease terms is unclear.)
St. Petersburg mayor Rick Kriseman now suggests (via Topkin) that Sternberg “consider relinquishing control” of the franchise in light of the allegations in the complaint. Kriseman went on to further suggest that he cannot negotiate a deal for a new stadium with Sternberg while the suit is pending (via Josh Solomon of the Tampa Bay Times).
It’s worth remembering the filing of a complaint marks one of the earliest stages in litigation. The suit has not yet proceeded to the point of discovery, where more facts would figure to come to light to either support or refute the minority shareholders’ allegations.
The Rays, for their part, have issued a statement on the matter: “We are disappointed that a handful of our limited partners have filed suit. The suit is deceptive and inflammatory and is fraught with error and falsehood. We have abided by the partnership agreement and the Tropicana Field use agreement.“
FlyTheW69420
Just move them out already.
gbs42
They are contractually bound to play at Tropicana Field through 2027.
stymeedone
Quick solution: I give you the Tampa Bay A’s, and the Oakland Rays!
gbs42
@stymeedone – Ha! Problem solved! You should work for MLB.
Dunk Dunkington
It was right there in front of your eyes the whole time! lol!
Dutch Vander Linde
You mean the Las Vegas A’s and The Montreal Rays.
1984wasntamanual
whoosh
theodore glass
You mean the Charlotte Rays.
TOGuy73
Don’t you mean the Charlotte Rae’s lol
hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/charlotte-…
mcmillankmm
Right…so a move after 2027 would work
balloonknots
Stick to your guns Tampa tax payers you have a top growth market in America by any measure and already great TV ratings … tax payers have all the leverage he either pays half of the new stadium or let him leave. Another franchise will be ready to pick this up! We have an upcoming soccer team ready to develop land in st Pete, true NHL and NFL owners who invest in our community let STUpid go away!
dirkg
You lost me at soccer.
kje76
Tampa taxpayers should stick to their guns just like with the NFL and NHL …
Raymond James Stadium – Publicly financed through a one-half percent sales tax.Raymond James Financial paid $55 M over 18 years for the naming rights beginning in 1998. Taxpayers paid 100% of costs.
(web.archive.org/web/20130908013405/https://law.mar…)
Amalie Arena – New stadium construction and infrastructure costs were paid by a combination of team money ($53 M) and public money ($86 M). Taxpayers paid 62% of costs.
(web.archive.org/web/20120824051451/http://law.marq…)
therealryan
Don’t forget the $61 milliion in renovations for Amelie that the county agreed to pay for in 2018.
Some other public money that went to MLB baseball teams, but not the Rays, was Hillsborugh County fully funding the construction of Steinbrenner Field in 1996 and then adding another nearly $50 million in renovations over the past 15 years.
balloonknots
Take a look at the investments each of the Vinik and Glazier families have made not only to the sports franchises but the Tampa Bay community not like an owner that just takes .., marlins should be a lesson to all
therealryan
As others have pointed out, in addition to the NHL and NFL stadiums being highly publicly funded, but the soccer team is owned by Stu Sternberg and the Rays.
Wilmer Flores' Tears
Offer the team to actual minorities to increase minority ownership, as a sign of reparations and proof that MLB believes Black Lives Matter. Problem solved!
stevewpants
This should be entertaining
StudWinfield
Wealthy people suing other wealthy people for the privilege of lobbying municipal leaders into funding their stadiums.
RunDMC
Their suit is the blue-collar let me speak to your manager request.
bobtillman
You got it Toyota
CravenMoorehead
Hopefully the catwalks at Tropicana Field don’t interfere with this conflict
windycitykid89
Lmao that was pretty good
JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt
Wait, you mean the guy who is trying to act like a poor baseball owner to con his city to building him a free baseball stadium is only looking out for his own interests?
I’m shocked. SHOCKED.
JoeBrady
Wait, you mean the guy is only looking out for his own interests?
I’m shocked. SHOCKED.
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I fixed it for you. Virtually everyone in this world is looking out for the best interests of himself and his family.
Joel Peterson
Doesn’t make it ok. Ripping others off in the name of your family isn’t cool and it isn’t ok.
User 4245925809
Ditto what lefties perceive as “justice”. All the same in this modern time.
philliesphan77
Lol people love shoehorning their hate of the radical left into any conversation
batman123
What rich people do
sufferforsnakes
Wrong.
JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt
Thanks for fixing my comment, Mr. Sternberg.
bravesiowafan
@joe Brady, when your the managing partner of an investment group your top interests are the partnership. As stated in the article he was blatantly not taking investments for the partnership (in which he’s responsible) and turning those same interests into his own personal investment so he can further make a move on the rays behalf to invest in something he personally owns and benefits off of when he used his authority to not let the partnership have a chance to make that investment. It’s dirty businesses tactics and it never works out. He is already under a magnifying glass for how he handles the rays now finding out he’s screwing his partners with investments they should have had first dibs on. It doesn’t look good for him or the owners when things like this happen.
JerryBird
100% Correct Joe Brady!
brodie-bruce
tbh if the rays actually moved a few miles east into tampa and they cut a deal with st. pete to allow the move i’m sure more than 5k in fans would show up. i’ve been to the trop and here are my biggest complaints about it, one it’s hard to get to there is only 1 highway in or out and iirc a side street to get to the stadium. second when i got across the bay to st. pete where the trop is in a industrial district, nothing around the trop is attracting to fans unless you like hanging out around factories and warehouses. i fully believe if the rays can move into tampa especially close to the bucs and they can share the same dt development and the rays chip a bit on development i think everyone can win in this situation.
kje76
Everyone might win *except* St. Petersburg, who would be left with a large empty circus tent/stadium. Hence, of course, why St. Pete clings steadfastly to the contract forbidding the Rays to leave until 2028.
ruckus727
I’ve been saying this for more than a decade. Nothing is happening until 2027 and then it will be a relocation out of the Bay Area unfortunately
balloonknots
As long as Stu goes that’s great! A top 3 growth market and top 12 tv market already will get another franchise ASAP! I’m so glad years ago gave up my mlb season tickets for the lightning. A real franchise owner with a quality team. F the Stu – Rays
therealryan
Is it the tax payer funded renovations that they’ve made to Amelie Arena that made you choose the Lightning and Amelie over the Rays and the Trop?
hugh jass
yet another greedy owner trying to scam municipal taxpayers
Les Claypool
I hope they move to Montreal, the rivalry with the Jays would be fun to watch and travel in that division would be a breeze.
suave316
There’s also a rivalry between Boston and Montreal that would be fun to watch
nickc-2
Not even the Jays play in Canada
theodore glass
Montreal didn’t work. Nashville or Charlotte makes more sense.
PiratesFan1981
Montreal didn’t work because it’s previous owners where violating MLB rules and regulations. That organization was stripped of its ownership and moved because of it. Maybe MLB should look at other clubs because of “abuse” owners have been steadily doing to players, personnel, shareholders, etc. for over 2 decades. And make similar moves like the Montreal decision to some of these owners and organizations. I can easily name 3 clubs I would really like the MLB to investigate and strip the owners of their rights to the club. It’s pretty obvious which organizations need to be properly looked at within the league and possibly federally.
rct
Eh, Montreal was fine until the strike and then around 1997/1998, attendance fell off a cliff. They were actually near the top in attendance in the early 80s then were middle-ish of the pack until the mid-90s. The strike really hurt them, as did ownership and their stadium situation.
They’d certainly do better than the Marlins or Rays and a handful of others if they were back.
its_happening
Expos attendance was below league average the final 20 seasons of their existence. Bad stadium didn’t help. More Expos fans across Canada than in Montreal.
kje76
Didn’t help the Expos’ cause that their best team ever was the 1994 team, and was wiped out by the strike. By the 1995 return, the lightning had seeped out of the bottle.
Rsox
Losing Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Ken Hill, and John Wettleland that offseason certainly didn’t help but you are right, the wind was definitely out of their sailes after that. A new ballpark would probably have solved all that and if they win the ’94 World Series (which they probably would have as they were that good) Lebatt Park probably becomes a reality
DarkSide830
*Vancouver
its_happening
Until Canada allows travel for sports teams Vancouver is not an option.
Technically correct
Lease goes through 2027, so I REALLY hope Canada travel bans aren’t a thing by then.
mcmillankmm
@Tech haha so true, Vancouver could build a brand new stadium by the time the Rays’ lease is up
dave frost nhlpa
Where is Robert Irsay when you need him.
Just move to MTL play in the dome until the new stadium is built. And if they don’t build one,Nashville will.
sufferforsnakes
Why would anyone consider Canada? That’s a screwed up country, whose policies are preventing the Blue Jays from playing at home.
I say no more baseball for Canada.
averagejoe15
Yes Canada, such a screwed up country…. shame on them for prioritizing public health.
MWeller77
bUt ThEy WoNt LeT mE pLaY bAsEbAlL
Responsible policy in the face of a once-in-a-lifetime crisis that has killed millions worldwide apparently is less important than where the Blue Jays play. Don’t you know that, averagejoe? /s/
firegibby
Canada doesn’t prioritize public health care lol. Our government specializes in supporting China.
BMAC81
That’s your opinion. It isn’t based in any actual fact, but virtue signaling rarely is.
For Love of the Game
“…prioritizing public health…” LOL! Canada is far behind the U.S. in terms of vaccinations with 4% being fully vaccinated vs. 40% in the U.S. I guess you have to remain quarantined and masked when your government-run health sector can’t secure and administer sufficient vaccines. That is more of an accident (or incompetence) rather than “prioritizing.”
averagejoe15
@For Love of the Game – Canada’s 1st dose rate is actually higher than the US at 54% to 50%. Canada has intentionally delayed the 2nd dose in order to prioritize more 1st dose vaccinations in response to data showing the efficacy of a single dose may be much higher than the 52% originally cited.
Now this is definitely controversial and not fully backed by real-world evidence, but it’s not incompetence nor is it some “US is better than Canada” BS.
The US also generally has a huge advantage in access to pharmaceuticals because of the political and financial relationship we have with the Pharma industry. US policies pretty much singlehandedly prop up the huge profits in the pharmaceutical industry with our strong patent protection. It’s paying off for us right now, but it’s also costing taxpayers like you and me billions of dollars every year as Medicare and Medicaid overpay for prescriptions.
But hey let’s just yell back and forth about how high the tax rate should be instead of giving more of a damn about how that tax money is actually being spent and why.
For Love of the Game
Hey, I actually agree with you for the most part. Bloomberg has Canada at 45% first shot, U.S. 50%. You hit the nail on the head in terms of our Pharma industry and how our overpayments have built an industry the world needs. Canada doesn’t have a Pharma industry, but they do have lower healthcare costs (if you can actually get care).
Texas Outlaw
First dose is about 75% effective. That’s much higher than the flu shot.
User 4245925809
What is neglected in that rant is the financial props in the US helped develeop and introduce the vaccine quickly in the 1st place, then the US RIGHTLY made 1st it was used in the US 1st and that is where most of the early product went. Why Europe was such a mess, with it’s 10 headed snake of writs and entanglement over policies and -0- clue how to get anything done, then threatening to seize every vial produced headed to England, which HAD developed a plan.
Kick governments out of healthcare, give money (if possible) to private enterprises and countries are far better off. governments have proven time after time in every sector to be wasteful and slow, just like with covid.
jimmymiller888
This conversation of USA vs Canada is dumb in most forums, but particularly this one.
In regards to the public health safety comment…they did allow World Juniors to be held in Canada…indoors…soooooo
Rob M 23
Can we discuss the rays owners like the article haha
kje76
Not exactly apples-apples. The World Juniors were required to quarantine for a week+ before entering Canada. If baseball were willing to shut teams down for over a week before entering Canada, then the Blue Jays could play in Toronto.
Joel Peterson
Dude America is pretty screwed up right now. And had been for a while.
advplee
I will take America over Canada any day of the week. Canada is making a name for itself arresting pastors in the middle of the street. no thanks, I prefer my freedoms.
averagejoe15
@advplee Yea there are no issues with unwarranted arrests and other infringements on freedom in the US, got it.
ludafish
Yeah that one guy arrested for having a gathering during lockdown and making a fool of himself really set Canada back. Let alone he was warned and did it anyway.
In the meantime you can be an insurrectionist and treasonous and get away with it in America and we have people dying and less people having kids because they can’t afford the medical bills.
But you keep talking about how America is so much better.
DerekBellsMoistMoustache
Lmaooooo
sdm519
oh, you mean the pastors spreading disease around?
if only america did the same, at least 200k people would still be alive.
man, if only i had sky daddy in my life, i’d be as insane as you.
jdgoat
This is one of the most misinformed takes I’ve ever seen. Are we really going to halt the growth of baseball around the world because of a once in a lifetime pandemic? That seems like a massive overreaction lol.
DerekBellsMoistMoustache
This is one of the most misinformed takes I’ve ever seen. Are we really going to prioritize the growth of baseball around the world despite a once in a lifetime pandemic? That seems like a massive overreaction lol.
jdgoat
The pandemic is almost over bruh, don’t really understand your point. The borders aren’t going to be shut for years.
Kayrall
@Derek
Yes. Freedom > safety.
1984wasntamanual
Acting like you can’t retain freedom and be safe is disingenuous at best. This is such an awful strawman that’s constantly run out there.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
“Yes. Freedom > safety.”
Exactly. And, of course, “freedom” means the right to spread as much disease as your heart desires.
“Freedom” does NOT mean being free from jags whose hearts desire spreading disease in order to pointlessly virtue signal that their being as selfish as possible is true “freedom”.
Laws by the govt. that tell people what to do with their own bodies (besides pregnant women, of course) are tyranny, right?
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
It’s not a disease. Stop trying to make it out to be one.
brodie-bruce
why are we talking about inoculations and political conspiracies on a mlb site, for the love of what’s holy can we just drop covid and politics. this is a bb site not the x-files if i wanted to hear about arguments about inoculations/politics then i would join a reddit site about said issues.
DarkSide830
yeah, that’s not a spiteful thing to do at all that totally wolnt lose the league money…
Starscream
This was a fun and very interesting thread right up until you, Sufferfortribe 2.
I thought we had all moved past dragging every single discussion into the COVID pit.
Well, congratulations, Suffer, you’re my first mute!
kbaker
As someone who has both worked for the Rays and has lived in the area for some time, Sternberg has to be the worst professional sports owner I’ve ever seen. These allegations along with an obvious desire to relocate along with the year in and year out “Moneyball” tactics all because he’s too cheap just get old. He’s rarely ever seen at a game other than Opening Day and just seems uninterested altogether.
Joel Peterson
He likes money. Not baseball. Not anything else except money.
kbaker
I agree
MWeller77
The contrast between Sternberg and the competence of the Rays front office and coaching staff is pretty striking
LordD99
MWeller, I’m not sure what you mean by that. He is quite competent. Incredibly so. The Rays model flows from him, including the front office and coaching staff. He’s enabled them to support his model.
bobtillman
But they’re actually interrelated. Neander et al operate under no financial consequences of their actions; keep Snell, you draw flies; trade Snell, you draw flies. In reality that’s a HUGE advantage, one that every other GM in the sport would love to have.
Bottom line, Stuie’s been effective for two things (to his credit) that he likely foresaw; franchise value growth and Revenue Sharing. Who knows how successful previous owner Vinnie would have been if the Yanks/Sox paid all his bills.
But he’s been ineffective in building a brand, and has essentially destroyed what was a promising market.
beknighted
***Jeffrey Loria has entered the chat***
ludafish
At least Loria attempted to spend on payroll several times.
Could you imagine if the Rays would actually spend a dime?
davengmusic
The owners of the Houston Texans and New York Jets will disagree with you.
For Love of the Game
I run the table with the Detroit Lions! 63 years with one family of owners. Zero championships and only one playoff win! I haven’t been to a game in 25 years.
g4
That Calvin Johnson story a few years back drove the nail in the decaying coffin of Lions ownership for me. Here’s a guy who quietly gave everything he had to the org for a decade and came away saying they had no idea what they were doing. That’s brutal.
Can’t be shrugged off as isolated case either, coming off the heels of Barry freakin Sanders
kje76
The Pirates owner is a competitor for that worst ownership award. And they both look down at the worst ownership, the NHL’s Ottawa Senators …
its_happening
Melnyck saved Ottawa hockey. Arena way outside downtown Ottawa and he saved them from leaving around 2003. Sorry, Eugene is not the worst owner in sports. He’s not even the worst owner in the province of Ontario.
kje76
Melnyk may have kept the Senators in Ottawa, but that’s pretty much the last positive thing he did.
(theringer.com/2019/10/8/20904509/eugene-melnyk-ott…)
And I don’t see having an arena that far out of the city as a positive. I think the Braves location is horrible in baseball, and that’s right by the convergence of major highways. The Canadian Tire Centre feels like it’s in the middle of nowhere.
That said, I would agree that there are cases for many other bad owners.
fljay73
6 more years & the team can do whatever it wants.
Sounds like the remaining minority owners do not agree with what Sternberg wants to do & now that his ownership stake is at 85% they are seeing the writing on the wall on their remaining 15% share. With all due respect to the Mayor of St Pete the city is losing leverage every year that goes forward & Sternberg is uninterested in staying in St Pete long term since they do not get many walk up fans & a good % of their season ticket holders live outside of St Pete (like myself).
For Love of the Game
The minority owners should hire a good CPA to look into Sternberg putting himself on the payroll. If they are taxed as a partnership, partners can only get distributions not paychecks., and those have to be in proportion to their partnership interests. There is technically another way, called a “guaranteed payment,” but that would have to be in the partnership documents.
Bochys Retirement Fund
The Rays majority owner is being insincere and trying to accumulate the best bang for his buck in the shortest of terms? Sounds on brand to me
LordD99
The Rays cry poverty, but Sternberg has said he has no intention of selling his “money-losing” ownership, exposing the lie. Now we hear he’s so financially hurt by his investment that he’s trying to increase his ownership percentage!
He’s a smart businessman. Very smart. He knows the Rays will eventually have a new park in Tampa or a new city to call home. Either way, his great investment in the Rays becomes even more profitable and more valuable. Right now, he basically has the other owners paying his team’s salary, and he knows eventually MLB or Tampa will help fund his relocation in Tampa. If not Tampa, then another city.
The problem is not that he’s a smart businessman who has played the system to his advantage. The problem is he’s done little to grow the Rays fan base and by extension MLB’s fan base. You see the results of his efforts everywhere, including here. Every team has a legion of fans who comment, but Rays fans are mostly absent. Oh, I know there’s a few here, but only a few. The comments mostly come from fans of other teams who alternately admire the success of the Rays, and others disturbed by how they operate. The Athletic doesn’t even have a reporter covering the team because the fan clicks are non-existent. Kids don’t become fans of the Rays long term because their fandom is crushed when every player they grow to like is traded in short order. I’ve asked this half jokingly and thus half seriously. Have the Rays traded Wander Franco yet? It’s coming. Franco is coming but so is his trade. They have ok TV ratings, but a high percentage are transplants watching their team play the Rays.
There can be two truths. The Rays have been a great investment for Sternberg. The Rays have been bad for MLB.
ABStract
I like how your definition of being a “good business man” includes using your position to accumulate personal wealth at the expense of the people you’re supposed to represent and in direct conflict with the contracts that enable your position.
How is cheating, lying and backstabbing seen as so abhorrent when poor and average people do it, but at the same time excused and even lauded when done by the rich?
F everyone else as long as you get yours-regardless of honor, laws or morals, huh?
Curtis 2
As a long time baseball and Rays fan your comment stung. You are spot on with most of what you said. In the past week when Willy Adames was traded a fan favorite who seemed like best teammate and everyone I know in Tampa Bay loved him. He wasn’t even here 4 years and was one of the faces of the franchised. I was bummed and Rays probably got better and didn’t even bring up Wander. I can’t stand Sternberg he drives fans away from the games. Why would I want to give that scumbag my money. I still watch games on TV and probably will break down and go to a few this year but I do it in spite. Tampa Bay has a fan base but it is hard for it to grow when you spit on your fans and play in play in a mall,
LordD99
As you’re a Rays fan, I hope you’re rewarded better in the coming seasons. I’m not talking about another postseason appearance, but by a better and more accessible park, and along with that the hope your best players don’t automatically get traded. At its core, baseball is about hope. My fear is you’ll get that park, but Sternberg won’t change how he operates. He’ll simply pocket the additional cash.
Flyby
I may be dumb in this and i admit it, but if he is 85% owner couldnt he tell the others to kick rocks or am i missing something? That like me going to buy a share of amazon and telling Jeff Bezos that his entire business model and we need to be more like wish.
I dont know much about baseball ownership but business ownership majority makes the final decisions within regulatory reason of course.
stymeedone
If there are requirements that the majority owner works for the benefit of all the partners, that changes everything. I know I would want that stipulation before handing over my share of the money.
gbs42
Basically, if the suit has merit, he’s violating laws and regulations to screw over the minority owners for his own benefit.
pev4
Scumbag owner. Hopefully they can get a new stadium in Tampa. Only way to save the franchise.
Rsox
Hmmm, sounds like the Montreal Expos may be back in 2028
rocky7
The Montreal Expos left due to attendance issues in a foreign country and province that actually wanted and still does to succeed from Canada……don’t think this is even going to happen…Jarry Park is a tennis stadium…..really think Canadians are going to pay for a new stadium in a province that still speaks predominantly French and LOVES hockey and little else……MLB would be crazy to do this.
Rsox
This is Rob Manfred’s MLB so it could absolutely happen…
1984wasntamanual
I’ll assume you mean secede, right? Otherwise I’m very confused.
bobtillman
Until the inevitable expansion/realignment, the Rays will always be a poor relation to the other teams in their division; NY, BOS and TOR are licenses to print money, and even BALT is well off Now, in a division with Miami, Atlanta and (Charlotte?), it’s a much fairer playing field. I actually think that is what Stuie is waiting for. But he’s been holstered by his own petard, or however that expression goes. By destroying a potential market, he’s severely limited the possibilities.
Rsox
The Rays have their handfull of playoff appearances and a couple of AL Pennants in the Sternberg era so its not like they aren’t/can’t be competitive. They have more playoff wins in this time than the Blue Jays and Orioles. Waiting for a possible realignment to put them in a division with the Braves and Marlins won’t change the financial issues or stadium issues for the Rays. An easier path to the playoffs means nothing once you’re in the playoffs and that same fairer playing field works for the other teams in the division as well. It sounds like Sternberg has been trying to make a backroom deal with Bronfman and the other owners know they’ll be iced out of the deal. Kind of like how Loria played Miami, sold the team, took the money and ran
retire21
Hoisted.
Goose
Translation through the BS: The team is getting ready to be sold and the minority owners feel they are not going to get their fair share from it.
gbs42
It seems much was lost in your translation.
Living the life
I have to give credit for to Stu Sternberg for stepping up to buy the Rays when no else would. Since he bought the Rays, he hasn’t done much to help the team, the cities, or MLB. It’s always take pity the poor owner. Stewie is not poor, but he wants you to think he is. Sternberg is a con. The Rays bought the Tampa Bay Rowdies of the ASL and their stadium. Stewie wants to sell shares in the Rays, but still wants to be in control of the team. Others have tried to buy the team, or 51% of the team, Stewie refused to sell if he is not in control.. If he was losing the amount of money he wants you to believe he is, he would sell. He tried con the City of Tampa into putting up more money for his new stadium when the business community didn’t come up their amount. Stewie let the Tampa stadium die, instead of putting more of his own money up. Then he threaten the TB Area with playing games in Montreal. Stu Sternberg is a con and rule #1 for a con is never put up your own money. Lets someone else do it for you..
You have to give credit to the Rays coaching staff for getting the most out of the ever changing players..
balloonknots
Well said, and STU-pid thinks he can threaten Tampa tax payers with moving the team. Wish he would just leave – as central/west Florida is a top 3 growth market and already a top 12 TV market. I hope Tampa sticks to their guns and makes his pony up half the cost of a stadium for full season baseball. He has never invested here.
Sadly he is just taking the money out the team for the stadium anyway. If he supported management they would have won at least 1 ring by now. STU-pid is one of the worse most greedy owners in mlb
vincent k. mcmahon
Ejecto Seato Cuz.
48-team MLB
Just move them to Charlotte/Raleigh and change the name so we can be done with it.
AHH-Rox
I wonder if the estate of Charlotte Rae would have a case if they moved to Charlotte and kept the name.
Maybe they work out a deal to show clips from The Facts of Life between innings.
Rsox
“Girls! Girls! Giii-iiiirlsss!”
misterb71
How ironic would it be if Montreal ended up with a franchise once based in Florida because the owner of the team wasn’t working completely on the up-and-up with his partners and MLB?
theodore glass
Rays need a new stadium or relocation. I don’t see any progress on this. We are finally seeing progress on the A’s but it took a long time. Manfred needs to be faster with these situations.
1984wasntamanual
I think Manfred is plenty deserving of hate, but in this instance, what do you want him to do? He can’t force St. Pete to let the Rays out of their lease and he can’t force the area to pay for a new stadium. Additionally, with how much hate Manfred gets, do you really want him to be the one making these types of decisions?
basquiat
No major decision is made in MLB without the authorization of the owners. Rob doesn’t have that level of authority.
DarkSide830
Rob is a direct extention of the owners
basquiat
@theodore: Rob will get right on it as soon as he settles the MASN dispute between the Nationals and Peter Angelos.
kje76
@basquiat From MLB’s point of view, it is basically settled. The NY Supreme Court found in the Nationals favor, as had the MLB arbitration panel. The Orioles are appealing, but unlikely to win.
That whole situation probably doesn’t get resolved until Peter Angelos dies, the Angelos family sells the team, or both. Of course, no sane prospective owner would buy in at this point, with contentious labor negotiations fast approaching, so things are on hold there.
And @1984wasntamanual is right, Manfred can’t actually do anything about the Rays’ stadium situation – that’s pretty much locked in place until after the 2027 season. Maybe come 2024 or so they can start to get the financial package ready for the next stadium, either in Tampa or elsewhere.
meesterjoe
The Nashville market likes this news. We can have a state of the art stadium ready when you want to come on up, Rays!
48-team MLB
I’m fine with Nashville but please come up with a better name than “Stars.”
DarkSide830
yeah, as much as I respect the homage to the Negro Leagues club, therr are better names to chose. i would keep Sounds and consider a callback name for Cleveland instead.
DarkSide830
oh no, the poverty team is having a crisis? goodness, its teams like TB, PIT, and OAK that are really holding back the growth of the game.
OzoRanky 2
The poverty team is currently first place in their division. How is that holding back the league?
theodore glass
Darkside makes terrible takes from time to time this one is one of many.
OzoRanky 2
I’m a Cubs fan living in Tampa. There is a big fan base in Tampa for the Rays but the location and stadium is just terrible. If they build a modern stadium in a convenient location they will draw a much larger crowd
sevans36
I agree, along with getting an owner that will actually sign stars or at least keep its own players.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
2014 ??? That is a long time to have clandestine discussions
If you are married and are having an affair doesn’t someone usually get upset if they are made to wait that long
SMH
Rob M 23
Can we discuss the rays owners like the article haha
JerryBird
Contrary to what people seem to think, the owners also want to make as much money as they can, just like the players. To them, their team is a business first. To us, it is simply a hobby and we are more than ready to spend the owners money for them on what we perceive as a way to win games. This goes back to the old days when Connie Mack said you only have to win enough to gets the fans to the games. Once his teams started winning a lot, he’d sell the players’ contracts off for huge profits and start over. He survived this for 50 years. Baseball is business first, after that it’s a hobby. Tampa is doing fine. The 15% ownership is just SOL.
Joel Peterson
But it’s not fine. In a business like baseball you have to look into the past and into the future. This guy jumped in when baseball was booming and he as well as other owners are milking the system. They don’t do anything to actually grow the product.
Look baseball is dying. And this guy isn’t helping. You think he cares? He will sell off before it happens thsts what guys like this do. But he’s killing the sport. Him and guys like him are killing the sport.
Read this guys Wikipedia page. It’s ridiculous. This guy is a piece of garbage.
JerryBird
Joel-I honestly believe Sternberg doesn’t care about the Rays as a sports franchise. He cares about making m0ney and when the time comes, he will sell and happily walk away with even more riches in his pockets. The sport is killing itself with all the new BS rules, crappy hitting and players falling apart left and right. Baseball has become a very boring version of itself. The product needs to be improved, but when fans openly accept what analytics is now calling quality production, we have simply settled for mediocrity. Look at production, people, especially writers have accepted what we see as the norm. It isn’t quality baseball. Baseball won’t die if people enjoy again. It has turned into a huge money making scheme for the privileged and fans cling onto it in hopes that better days are ahead. The good old days are gone and only sleepy days lie ahead.
bobtillman
Not to worry, Rays fans. Stuie has hired Rudy Guilianni to represent him.
Joel Peterson
Dude they probably know each other. They seem to walk in the same circles.
Cosmo2
This is part of the problem when fans think an owner should just volunteer to lose profits. He has investors to answer too, among the reasons why its irrational to ask a business to run at a loss.