MAY 10: In what’ll surely be a sigh of relief for Mets’ fans, it seems deGrom’s MRI revealed no serious issues. Jon Morosi of MLB Network (Twitter link) reports New York is optimistic he won’t require an extended absence, although his next scheduled start may be pushed back. The Mets have off days today and Thursday, so they needn’t rearrange the rotation much to give deGrom an extra few days to recover. Morosi adds that a short-term IL stint remains a possibility, but it seems deGrom has avoided any especially worrisome injury.
MAY 9, 4:18 pm: New York is sending deGrom for an MRI “just to see what’s going on,” manager Luis Rojas told reporters (including Anthony DiComo of MLB.com). Rojas says deGrom’s current discomfort is in the right side of his lower back, not his lat.
MAY 9, 2:15 pm: The Mets announced deGrom was removed for precautionary reasons with right side tightness (via David Lennon of Newsday).
MAY 9, 1:56 pm: Mets ace Jacob deGrom left this afternoon’s start against the Diamondbacks early after a visit from the team trainer, Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News was among those to pass along (Twitter link). deGrom worked five innings before leaving during his warm-up pitches to start the sixth.
Any premature departure for the two-time NL Cy Young award winner would cause concern, but it’s especially alarming to see deGrom pulled after he was scratched from his previous start with right lat inflammation. deGrom did come out strong today, holding his typical high-90’s velocity over five frames of one-hit, one-run ball.
The 32-year-old has been nothing short of incredible this season. He’s now up to 40 innings with a 0.68 ERA and a fantastic 46.1% strikeout rate against a 5.0% walk rate. So long as he’s healthy, deGrom looks on his way to another Cy Young-caliber campaign, and he’s of upmost importance if the 15-13 Mets are to remain atop the National League East over the course of the season.
CravenMoorehead
Must be a strained back from carrying the team since he gets no run support every start
MetsFan22
About to be 5 in row.. but keep hating
rct
It’s not ‘hating’ to point out that deGrom has had to do some serious heavy lifting this season.
MetsFan22
He is obviously saying it just to make the Mets look worse…..
oldmansteve
Be more insecure.
whynot 2
The Mets do that all on their own and I am a Mets fan
HankAaronDidGreenies
How insecure are you? Even Mets fans have acknowledged deGrom’s lack of run support over the years. It’s a running joke between all fans of baseball.
Prospectnvstr
MetsFan22: So where would the Mets record stand if a different Mets starter pitched instead of Degrom w the same (pretty much) nonexistent run support? My guess a few more losses. But that is just my opinion.
Tom1968
Maybe a better record.they would actually score runs for whoever it is.
EasternLeagueVeteran
Thank God DeGrom can hit!
Mynameisnoname
The Mets offense has been dreadful.
You’re either baseball illiterate or suffering from homer delusions.
Jcstein
He’s talking about how somehow DeGrom is 2-2 in 5 starts even though he’s let in two earned runs. 35 total innings and 2 earned runs allowed. So he allowed a single run in his two losses? Sounds like no run support to me
CluHaywood
I am surprised. I thought the Mets were winning 5 of the next 7 World Series, or whatever asinine claim you made previously.
It’s all well and good to want your team to do well, but Mets22 takes it to another level. Everything from criticizing fans on other teams’ stories that have no relativity to the Mets, to comparing the Mets lineup to best offenses in baseball non ironically, to getting hyper defensive about when literally any negativity passes to the Mets. Gotta lighten up, man. Not every team is gonna be perfect, and if you can’t block it, don’t pitch it.
MetsFan22
I would say we have a good chance of doing what the giants did a few years back. 3 out of 5 I think
Ducky Buckin Fent
Ahhh…plotting the dynasty are ya, @mestfan22?
You are certainly MLBTR’s biggest homer.
Which ain’t not nuthin’.
Pro tip: always start with – ya know – a single pennant first. Before the “we are going to win X amount of World Series in X amount of years” stuff.
I hope you find this insight helpful.
Mikel Grady
Amazing pitcher. Hate to see.
MetsFan22
Degrom injured does better than 90% of the league lol.
elgrandeuno
Not bashing on the pitcher but The Mets suck even with deGrom at 100%his window is closing as he is entering into his 30s it seems the norm pitchers are getting injured more often in this day of age in baseball
MetsFan22
Degrom will pitch fine till 37 (without injuries) obviously a injury could change that. Look at verlander and sherzer. I’m not worried about Degrom.
VonPurpleHayes
The irony of saying this during a literal injury scare. I hope you’re right of course.
RunDMC
You weren’t winning when he was on the hill at 100%, so it’s hilarious he finally gets a W leaving early.
downsr30
When you throw as hard as he does, it’s going to be hard to stay healthy as the human body is inevitably going to breakdown. This isn’t Nolan Ryan we are talking about – a guy that would pitch through pain during a time where organizations weren’t as heavily protective of their pitchers… and with all the $ involved with players now, I get it – but I don’t see how his body isn’t going to breakdown throwing that hard for 200+ innings.
oldmansteve
Here we go with the “Throwing hard is bad for you” line. You realize the difference in stress on the body throwing 92 or 97 is insignificant. Throwing 92 is enough to cause injury. You aren’t at any greater risk to injury by throwing 97. No matter how many times idiots claim it does without any evidence expect speculation.
downsr30
It’s all about generating maximum output from your body, which DeGrom does exceptionally well. However, doing that for 100+ pitches, 30-35x a year isn’t sustainable. For some people that might be 92mph, for others that might be 100mph.
Max effort + excessive use = injury proneness. Not that hard to figure out.
BRUH.SF.BRUH
I don’t comment too often, but is there anyone worse in the comment sections than @Metsfan22?
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Depends. Sometimes he’s a little over the top. Other times there are way WORSE people.
MetsFan22
Schwarber with the clutch HR.
Mrtwotone
@bruh
@metsfan22 doesn’t really bother me too much, he’s just confident in his team. I wish I had that type of confidence in mine!
CluHaywood
@Mrtwotone
But it’s confidence that isn’t supported by any sort of data or metrics. It’s fanboyism on an unlimited, immutable platform.
Mrtwotone
@donopolis
I can see that, he is kind of rude sometimes I guess. He’s definitely a homer, but, so are a lot of people on here. If he didn’t belittle people and talk trash about other teams I think he would be more accepted. I can see why people are tired of him though, it can come off as disrespectful sometimes. He personally doesn’t bother me though. We don’t know what this person goes through day to day and maybe his confidence in his team gets him through. Not trying to stand up for him or make excuses, just my thoughts. I can understand your view though 100%.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
We wasted it……Obviously im not happy about it but congrats to your Mets. Also do you believe the Lindor NYC rat thing?
MetsFan22
No they definitely got into it. McNeil is a hot head.
MarlinsFanBase
Well, we see where @MetsFan22’s loyalties are.
At least the Mets aren’t the same mess since Cohen became owner.
riffraff
if you muted him you wouldn’t know the quality of his posts..just saying
baseballpun
Yeah, I don’t think he’s the worst poster or anything but I had to mute him. He’s ridiculous.
SalaryCapMyth
Yep. Not the worst. We have some real ugly trolls on this site. Are you a Mets fan? We tend to be a little more harsh on our own, sometimes. I can look back and see that in me.
MarlinsFanBase
@baseballpun
AMetsFan22 is something else, but for all the annoying features he brings, one can always count on seeing his predictions fail to the point that they’re laughable. That in itself is worth not muting him.
It’s great to talk baseball, but to have some comic relief from a village idiot combined with the talk is just pure treasure.
RunDMC
I secretly expect MetsFan22 to be Kaiser Soze with their account used as a dummy account to undercut Mets fans everywhere by a Yankees fan.
Kg3636
I’m trying to figure out if Metsfan22 is an 8 year old who doesn’t know any better or some 55 year old dude living in him moms basement spouting off this nonsense. I’m guessing the latter. Good chance to win 3 out of the next 5 WS lol. Mets will be fortunate to make the playoffs 3 out of the next 5 years.
MarlinsFanBase
95 to 103 wins…better than the Dodgers.
And there are the other many predictions.
Bart Harley Jarvis
@Kg3636,
Here’s hoping Metsfan22 and his mom had a nice Mother’s Day together…
JoeBrady
BRUH.SF.BRUH
I don’t comment too often, but is there anyone worse in the comment sections than @Metsfan22?
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He’s a huge fan and a homer, so I’ve seen worse. I have fellow RS fans in here that think winning 70 games is a fantasy. Who would you rather have in here? Tigger or Eey-Ore?
meckert
It’s breath-holding time. Damn.
VonPurpleHayes
Not that he hasn’t been good in previous years, but this year, perhaps because offense is down league-wife at the moment, deGrom looks really special. It would be a shame to lose him for significant time during what could potentially be the peak run of an already impressive career.
Chief Two Hands
Man, that league-wife is such a tramp…
Ducky Buckin Fent
Really looks like they may have rushed him back.
Even the line, “we felt he was fine” reeked of that.
Lat strains linger, man. Syndergaard & Sevi essentially lost entire seasons due to the exact same thing. Hope it doesn’t come to that. deGrom a fantastic pitcher. I haven’t seen him throw this year because: lolmets. Uh?
But he’s always good viewing.
Tom1968
Right now cy young and bob gibson are looking down at degrom and saying ” we werent this great in our prime”
baseballpun
Whether it’s true or not, I can’t imagine Bob Gibson would ever say that.
Fever Pitch Guy
Check out Pedro’s numbers in 2000 vs League Average.
Samuel
@ Tom1968;
I never saw Cy Young, But I did see Bob Gibson, Herb Score, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Vida Blue, Ron Guidry, Pedro Martinez, Steve Carlton, Mariano Rivera, Greg Maddox, John Smoltz, Randy Johnson, and over a dozen others. They all had periods of dominance. Heck, Pedro’s older brother Ramon dominated for years until he got hurt.
That’s when I started watching it. Before then there was Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Bob Feller, Lefty Grove, Dizzy Dean, 2 dozen others (including Babe Ruth).
Baseball did not start when you started watching.
oldmansteve
Jesus Christ, you’re old.
Samuel
@ Steve Nebraska;
Yes. Wisdom is comes with time. Years ago I learned that people that didn’t have anything of value to say usually preceded their comments with swear words to make it seem as if the nothing they were expressing was in some way insightful.
Prospectnvstr
Steve Nebraska: Yes, Jesus Christ is old. He’s over 2,000 years old. Just saying…
Tom1968
And at his age can probably get a starting job for the tigers or pirates
whyhayzee
Luis Tiant in 1972. Fisk’s rookie season. That was special.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Man. El Tiante.
Was at The Stadium the game after Thurman died. Tiant threw. Went 8 & all he gave up was a solo shot (Lowenstein I think) in the second. Yanks lost 1-0. Brutal.
But: Luis Tiant was the pitcher that game, that only he could be. All those different pitches, wind ups, arm angles. I found it dazzling & inspiring as an 11 year old.
The next day I started learning to pitch. Well…”pitch” is more like it.
But that was the game that started that whole journey.
whyhayzee
Munson’s death was a part of my worst year in life. My best friend had taken his own life a couple of months before that. We had epic Fisk vs. Munson arguments. Fisk was devastated. On the field they fought like warriors but they had tremendous respect for each other.
“ One fact, forgotten to time, seems to support Tiant’s view. Munson’s widow, Diana, later said that only one non-Yankee player sent a personal note to her home in the days after his death: Carlton Fisk.”
I too was affected by that wind up and assortment of pitches and threw somewhat that way in my last season of baseball in 1975 before staging my own comeback 15 years later after my brother’s best friend passed. By then I was in my thirties and just trying to not get killed out there. It took awhile but I finally won a game and gave my brother the ball.
We were all baseball junkies, always throwing and playing pick up games. My brother was one of the few people who believed in my ability. Thanks bro.
Ducky Buckin Fent
@whyhazee
Not sure how to even respond to that.
So…je regrette & – of course – Munson > Fisk
There is a long tradition in sports of elite players respecting yet simultaneously loathing each other.
I can’t say I either mind nor do not understand that. Remember when Magic & Isaiah kissed before game 1 of the NBA finals? Personally, I didn’t care to see that. Perhaps it’s an archaic belief, but I feel there should always be a certain level of disdain for your opponent.
Never touched a baseball after JUCO. Only touched a football in order to play catch with my son. Just seemed like it never felt right.
Hat tip to being stubborn.
Pitcher Wins do mean something. Just not as much as we used to think.
We had dozens of football & baseball games we could play with any number of players in any conditions. Fall & winter it was football. Spring & summer baseball. In retrospect, damn I had it easy as a kid.
JoeBrady
Ducky Buckin Fent
I feel there should always be a certain level of disdain for your opponent.
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Absolutely. I come from a tightly knit community in The Bronx. But the Sunday FB games in the schoolyard were hard-hitting affairs, even if played on blacktop.
But everyone still went to their sponsoring pub after the game, and the hits from the game were forgotten after the first beer. There is actually a life lesson in there, that you compete fiercely, and still share a beverage with your opponent.
dugmet
You were there? I still remember – on TV – the pre-game ovation with the team except Jerry Narron at catcher on the field. Thur-mon! Thur-mon!
Canosucks
Hey Joe you are right; as an example when I kick boxed we would always one arm hug our opponent at the end as you see professional fighters do. It shows strength of character along with strength of athleticism. You play hard and fierce under the rules of the sport and respect your opponent at the end because you both did it out of choice.
Tom1968
As long as we’re ( mainly you ) trying to be arrogant and name drop, i saw the same ppl you did. I also saw Nino espinosa , bob Myrick, kevin mmahamet,mike maroth.
I also lived a few feet away from joe pepitone in the 1980s.
I also had a gun pointed at me in the halls of south shore high school ,brooklyn ny in those same 80s.
I also did pro wrestling for a cpl of yrs,i have seen a very popular american/mexican wrestler get ” serviced” in the locker room while his wife was in the stands.
I mentioned cy young because he has the most wins and will never be caught.
I mentioned bob gibson because he had a slightly over 1. ERA .degrom can top that this yr the way he is going.
Tigers3232
Regardless of who has seen what, any true fan of the game can recognize Degrom is having a special year. Hopefully he heals from this injury quickly and doesnt lose any of the momentum he has. When a player is having a year like Degrom is having it is great to watch and hard for a true fan not to root for him personally regardless of what team they are a fan of.
TradeAcuna
Degrom must have carried the giant possum out of the stadium.
But seriously Lindor just made himself more unlikeable after that remark. The ego is seeping off the blonde dye of his hair. But I guess that is what happens when you are the richest player on your team….undeservingly.
Samuel
Lindor has Lebron James disease…..an acute form of narcissism.
baseballpun
Yeah, and just like LBJ, he’s been to the World Series 10 times and won four and multiple league MVPs and is a billionaire.
24TheKid
Okay. Doesn’t negate his personality.
baseballpun
It’s a dumb and pointless analogy.
Samuel
@ baseballpun;
First off, it helps if you can bring your friends over to your team to play a 5 person sport (which includes offense and defense). And the disease is growing – an epidemic of JJ surgery proportions is just beginning.
While there is no cure for the disease. you can help them by going them constant attention, worshipping at their feet no matter how many stupid things they say, buying the overpriced products they endorse, and checking the Internet to pay outrageous prices for their NFT’s. Feed the monkey!
MarlinsFanBase
Lindor may have LeBron disease, but he clearly doesn’t have the respective talent, success and stature within his respective sport like LeBron has in his.
And LeBron never was distracted in Cleveland, Miami or L.A. by a NY rat or raccoon…despite playing in situations where he and his teammates were followed ad nauseum.
mlb1225
Just surprised he got the W today. The man could have like 25 wins a year if the Mets scored like 4 runs everytime he started.
Samuel
@ mlb1225;
You’re one of the half-dozen sharpest people on this board. Good luck following MLB in the future. Hint – it’s no longer a sport. Free substitution is on the way, Like the NFL and NBA, you’ll be watching a team sport and at some point will realize you don’t know who’s participating until the play is over.
alc47
I’m very surprised with how many people are saying the Mets suck! They’re definitely underperforming but still in 1st with the 3rd highest winning percentage in the nl and they have the 2nd lowest era in baseball. They’re not playing up to their abilities I get it but once this team starts going on all cylinders, watch out baseball.
VonPurpleHayes
@alc47 I don’t think anyone thinks the Mets suck. There is just a very vocal minority on the board that consistently proclaims the Mets to be the best team in the history of the game. So I think some of the backlash is overreacting to those comments. Mets will be competing for the division all year. I see them getting 1st or 2nd place. I see the Braves doing the same. Every team in the NL East has holes they need to plug. The Mets and Braves have less holes than the Phillies, Nats and Marlins.
justacubsfan
Gonna guess he is being overly ginger since he is nearing an opt out opportunity. Don’t blame him. F*$% the mets.
sviscusi
He wanted to stay in, Rojas pulled him out of caution.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Spaghetti O, uh oh.
MarlinsFanBase
Okay, I’m never one to laugh when a guy gets hurt because these are human beings making a living, so it doesn’t matter what uniform they wear when looking at the human aspects, but this unfortunate thing with deGrom brings in something.
Some of you may have been on that thread about a week and a half ago when several of us were commenting on deGrom’s Hall of Fame potential and what he would need to get in. Those of us in that conversation saw @MetsFan22’s comment/prediction that essentially assured deGrom as a lock. I and another poster commented/joked that @MetsFan22’s comment/prediction may have been the kiss of death for deGrom’s career considering @MetsFan22’s history of failed predictions. So, it has to be said now.
Dear goodness! deGrom has been hurt ever since @MetsFan22’s comment/prediction about deGrom’s Hall of Fame potential/status. @MetsFan22’s mouth is like the King Midas’ touch in that everything he says turns into gold for us non-Mets fans, especially those of us that are fans of division rivals. But we have to acknowledge that, for Mets fans and players and the whole organization, @MetsFan22’s comments/predictions aren’t gold for them.
MetsFan22
Degrom is making the HOF. I don’t know what this post was about.
MarlinsFanBase
On behalf of the entire NL East, thank you for making this statement.
Can we now expect deGrom tripping on a mosquito in his next outing…whenever that is?
Bill M
Your obsession with this idiot is borderline psychotic. Move on.
MarlinsFanBase
Can’t a man love some good comedy?
JoeBrady
Caught a break yesterday. His 5 innings were just enough to get me points in both ERA & Whip in my H2H league, but hopefully without hurting his l/t health.