MAY 16, 2:07 pm: Fortunately, Seager will not require surgery, Roberts announced this afternoon (via Fabian Ardaya of the Athletic). His specific timetable for a potential return remains unclear, although he will miss at least a month, per Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times. In the interim, Gavin Lux will be Los Angeles’ primary shortstop. Seager fractured the fifth metacarpal in his right hand, Roberts said (via Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register). The Dodgers are recalling catcher Keibert Ruiz to take his place on the active roster.
MAY 16, 1:21 am: X-rays revealed a fractured right hand for Seager, manager Dave Roberts told MLB.com’s Juan Toribio and other reporters post-game. Seager will be placed on the 10-day IL prior to Sunday’s game, and the timetable for his return isn’t yet clear.
MAY 15: Dodgers shortstop Corey Seager left tonight’s game in the fifth inning after being hit in the right hand/wrist area by a pitch from Marlins southpaw Ross Detwiler. Seager was immediately removed and didn’t take first base, as Sheldon Neuse replaced Seager as a pinch-runner.
There isn’t yet any word on the severity of Seager’s injury, though even a day-to-day type of absence wouldn’t be good news for a Dodger team that already has plenty of key personnel on the injured list. Just today, AJ Pollock joined such names as Cody Bellinger, Tony Gonsolin, David Price, Brusdar Graterol, Scott Alexander, and Zach McKinstry on the short-term IL, while Dustin May and Edwin Rios have suffered season-ending injuries. Losing Seager would be a particularly tough blow considering both his status as one of the game’s best shortstops, and because the Dodgers’ depth at the position is already thinned by the absence of utilityman McKinstry.
In the event of a lengthy absence for Seager, Chris Taylor or Gavin Lux would likely take the reins at shortstop, though moving Taylor out of center field could require Mookie Betts to shift over to center and thus open up a space in right field. A cleaner move would be Lux to shortstop, Max Muncy to second base and an Albert Pujols/Yoshi Tsutsugo combination at first base, though Lux has struggled badly at the plate this season. Fortunately for Los Angeles, Bellinger and McKinstry are both close to beginning rehab assignments, though that wouldn’t help in the short term if Seager is out.
Seager is hitting .265/.361/.422 with four home runs over his first 169 plate appearances of the season. Though his 121 wRC+ is down from the 152 wRC+ posted over 232 PA in 2020, a Seager who stays healthy and productive throughout the season will be well-positioned to be one of the top free agents of the 2021-22 offseason.
Is Seager’s defense above average. I don’t get to see him much on the east coast.
Throughout his career, Seaver’s defense is steady but not spectacular like the D of Lindor, Baez, or Turner. He’s made a few more errors than normal this year, though that has been a team-wide issue for guys not named Muncy, Betts, and Turner.
Short answer: no.
It was very good early on in his career, but the mounting injuries have slowed his lateral quickness. He has regressed quite rapidly over the last few seasons. He can still be a passable (shift aided) SS right now, but teams will probably see him as a 3B in the near future.
He was better, years ago.
His age and injuries are adding up and decreasing his range.
Most scouts didn’t see him sticking at SS this long though.
I think the dodgers would be better with Turner at 1B and Seager at 3B but I don’t think Friedman wanted to alienate Seager during a contract year.
I don’t disagree with your overall point, but claiming that age is a factor is a bit humorous. He’s only 27, yet his range has seemingly diminished from his pre-hip injury days,
His hip issue was a birth defect, so this is the *most* mobile he has ever been.
Playing above average defense at MLB shortstop is young mans game.
27 might not be old to us but it’s his 10th professional season.
@crypto yes it is and I can only think of two big name SS that never played a different position other than SS and that’s Derek Jeter and Ozzie Smith. Omar Visquel I think played a bunch of 2B at the end.
Interesting question. Tony Fernandez, Louis Aparicio, Honus Wagner, Gary Templeton, Mark Belanger?
Just checked career stats of the guys I mentioned, only Luis Aparicio played solely SS entire career. So Oz and Luis might be the only greats who did. Rizzuto 4 inn at 2nd
Alan Trammell is another.
How about Larkin?
stats show Trammell played over 120 games at 3B, 2B, or DH
Larkin – almost! only played 18 innings at 2B, DH’d 3 games
Fernandez played stints at 3B in the beginning, middle and at the end of his career.
Yeah, note above I corrected my comment.
I was surprised at how much of his career he was an everyday SS. I actually thought I remembered him playing more at 3B than he did
who Larkin? Yep, I’m surprised too
Edgar Renteria played 4 games at 2nd no starts and dud start at DH i think once
Below avg
It’s cool we got Yoshi
Wouldn’t Lux play some at SS?
Lux to SS, Muncy to 2B, Tsutsugo/Pujols to 1B has to be an option.
Yep.
Beaty and Raley can play first too.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Austin Barnes at 2nd, against LHP.
The Dodgers have depth and versatility to handle any injury.
Hopefully Seager’s isn’t that serious though
Severely downgrades a lineup that has been very anemic. Once McKinstry and Bellinger are back the core lineup will be Smith/Barnes at C, Muncy at 1B, McKinstry at 2B, Taylor at SS, Turner at 3B, Beaty at LF, Bellinger at CF, Betts at RF. Lux fills in at 2B/SS. Taylor and McKinstry play all over the field to rest players.
Pujols played SS in community college 25 years ago.
When he was 25
Lol!! I’m not sure if he is only 41 or not, but I gotta say I love the fact the some people on here think there is absolutely no way he could be lying about his age. Go Angels!
There’s nobody in baseball that believes this guy is 41. He seems like a good guy but he’s a complete fraud when it comes to his age.
I can’t believe the Angels’ medical staff didn’t carbon date him prior to signing him. JK I love Albert.
He will be fine!
In about 3-4 months.
Vasse just said A fracture, expect him to be out AT LEAST a month 🙁
Broken bone in the wrist. Ugh
If you can’t control the ball up and in, don’t pitch up and in
If you cant get out of the way, dont get in the box. Makes as much sense as what you said.
No, it doesn’t. If you have no control, it is reckless and dangerous to throw up and in. Maybe it just doesn’t make sense to smooth brains like you.
If that is where the batters weakness is where do you expect him to get pitched to?
RIP Bob Gibson
As I said, if you can throw a strike go for it. When you have such bad control you have no idea where it’s going, no, you shouldn’t be throwing 95+ near the head. It was less than a foot and probably closer to 6 inches from his wrist to his helmet at point of contact
If you already said it why say it again?
Hand, not wrist.
Exactly. Remember when Joe Kelly threw inside at Hanley Ramirez and broke a few ribs? Ramirez was the hottest Dodger and ineffective the whole playoff series. I wish there were bigger consequences when a pitcher comes in and injures a player, especially when they lack control. Infuriating.
Kelly wasn’t anywhere near Hanley’s head. Whether it was intentional I’m not getting into, but Kelly doesn’t fit “my complaint”
I’m not saying you can’t throw inside ever that’s just dumb. But specifically when you’re trying to bust a guy up under the hands/jaw, you better know where it’s going. Way too many pitchers today have no clue
No one is saying it was intentional but I think there is an understanding that if you have bad control and you come inside you have a good chance of hurting someone. Should there be more accountability? Doesn’t have to be at the head to hurt someone as we saw. That is part of the game but it seems unfair to shrug your shoulder while the batter is out for a long time or severely hurt. Heck you can get a flame thrower with questionable control in a blowout game and keep mowing down opposing batters.
Pitchers make mistakes. Batters get hit. It’s part of the game, not some abuse on the part of the pitcher
Cam, it’s called command. It’s a skill that major league pitchers either have or do not have
Seager stands right on top of the plate. The pitch wasn’t that far off the plate, he just stands closer than most. I don’t know if it’s a Dave Robert’s thing, but I see them leaning into pitches all the time.
Disagree. Seager doesn’t stand that close to the plate. He’s closer to the plate than away but hardly on top of the plate. Most batters stand closer than away. The way umpires are giving outside pitches a couple of inches off the plate you have to stand closer. Turner is completely on top of the plate and why he gets hit all the time. The pitch was clearly a big miss and why he got hit. I’m always surprised by the amount of big misses at the mlb level. You’d think pitchers should have better control to make it to the show.
Broken hand..big blow to a team that’s already dealing with plenty. This is where depth is so important!
We’ll get a decent look at Lux at SS. Wouldn’t even call it a silver lining but it could be useful information going into the offseason
Muncy to second and Pujols to first. What timing.
And that would be a questionable defensive IF rangewise. Lux doesnt have the range to play SS and Pujols doesnt have any range period. Also Pujols as a .506 OPS vs RHP.
Wow. Tough break. He’s not having the type of platform year he’d hoped for.
Still think the Dodgers get hot sometime this summer and win the West.
They’re a game back of first. ONE GAME
No one is “worried” but the people outside of LA who are hoping they won’t have to face LA in Oct
It seems like more than usual injuries from getting hit by pitches. What a mess this year has been so far.
How long until they trade for Story
They would have to overpay to trade within the division.
Won’t be that much as long as the Rockies are terrible and Story is still on his way to free agency after the season.
It would have to be more than the Rox would get from the draft picks.
Can have Baez for the right price too
If the Padres don’t win the division this year, they never will
The same Padres who are starting a half of a AAA lineup right now and have a dozen pitchers on the IL?
Every team has injuries, it’s part of the game. Every team has to play through adversity.
Those players will be back in a week or so. They’re only on the “injured” list due to covid-19. The Dodgers have guys that will be out months and for the season.
But the Dodgers have the most awesomest bestest depth that the world has ever seen (so we have heard for a year now – and admittedly, they do have a lot of great depth so don’t come back at me for that). My point is for all the Dodger fans – use your depth and don’t use injuries as an excuse. Injuries a are part of the game. They are unfortunate and I do NOT for an injury to any team or player. I just don’t go for the “oh we have depth” when it turns to “oh but we have injuries”. Pick one and ride it – I don’t even care which one you ride.
The Padres have about 10 pitchers from opening day 40 man roster who have been on IL, or are out for season, none of which are out with Covid. It’s folly to try to win argument that the Dodgers are somehow “more injured” than Pads.
Okay, Brewer… name me those “10 pitchers” missing from their opening day roster
I forgot that Clevinger and Morejon and the three other Padres pitchers who had Tommy John this year were on the one week rehab rehab plan, I can’t wait to see them pitch this summer.
It is what it is man, the Dodgers have injuries. the Padres have injuries, the other 28 teams have injuries. That’s why these teams tried to get as much depth as possible this offseason. I would certainly prefer to see Clevinger vs May in the playoffs, but that ship has sailed and the season just goes on testing who is deeper.
Listen, it sucks that they loss Clevinger but that injury occurred during the off-season and it actually allowed them to acquire Darvish and Snell.
And the Dodgers aren’t going to add anymore players to their roster…? They just added two more position players yesterday. They’ll likely make deadline acquisitions, so will the Padres.
That’s all part of the game. The point is these teams brag about their depth so they can’t use injuries as an excuse when they come up short.
No I’m saying the Padres had a full off-season to deal with his injury, which isn’t the case for someone who gets injured during the regular season
@ Fred. Sure: Lamet (was out a month, working up to 2 inn per game now), Morejon (out for season), Kela (on IL twice), Pomeranz (IL now), Weathers (dead arm for two weeks), Paddack (just off IL), Strahm (60 day IL), Pierce Johnson (IL 10 days+, Adams (IL 10 days+), Castillo (60 day IL), Williams, Altavila, Baez, Guerra, Lawson, WIngenter, Okay, more than 10
Yeah and most of that guys are or have been back with them. Morejon’s probably the only significant injury
Pomeranz would be best RP on many teams. Kela is of significance. Strahm has been key piece. Castillo otherworldly talent. Etc.. but the point is, why act as if Dodgers are only team dealing when of course it’s not true? Im sorry for the rash of injuries, wish all the teams could put their best on the field and compete.
If Kela is “significant” why was he a free agent until February? He’s also always been injury prone in the past so it’s not like him being injured is not a surprise
Pomeranz was just placed on the IL. If he’s out for a long time, I’d consider that significant
Bauer was a FA who signed in February. A lot of guys are injury prone, Price, May, Graterol, Knebel, to name a few, but GMs take chances.
Longtime feels comfortable lecturing dodger fans on a dodger thread cause he’s such a man and blocked all the dodger fans who would reply to him
We’re a game out of first. You ask what’s wrong someone is gonna answer. No one is asking for your sympathy. We’ll still beat you
Bahahahha. So because the best free agent didn’t sign until February 12, anyone who’s signed at that time is significant? Brewer you’re such a troll it’s amazing
Kela couldn’t hold a job on Pitt. In SD he has a 5 ERA And a negative war. He’s nothing but a name for you to list.
What do you mean we? Dodger Blew is bad enough as it is.
more mindless negativity, give yourself a rest man
@ Before. I didn’t say a FA signed in Feb meant anything, I responded to a post that did. Try comprehending before blabbering nonsensically.
@Fred
Go look up the list for most 2021 games missed due to injury. It’s not even close.
Ah okay that must have been another longtimecoming, of course
Yeah you haven’t been condescending+ taking joy at all regarding dodger injuries and how that has let SD stay relevant. Nahhhh that was another Padre fan named longtimecoming who’s blocked most dodger fans then can’t seem to stop talking about the dodgers. I see
See you and your doppelgänger in the next dodger thread
Where did weathers miss 2 weeks? He didn’t
Castillo hasn’t thrown since basically 2018, Williams since 2019. Lawson since 2019. Wingerton since 2019. Strahm had surgery last October. Guerra came to camp hurt. Everyone knew Lamet was hurt. Why wouldn’t those all fall under “not injured during the regular season?”
@before again you don’t read the posts and lack context and thus a comprehension for the answers.
You can’t talk about dodger injuries!
Why?
Because the Padres are hurt!
Uh..
The comment that started this thread is literally “If the Padres don’t win the division this year, they never will” insinuating that the only reason the Padres can win the division this season is because of the Dodgers injuries. When someone says that, it’s worth pointing out that the Padres have a bunch of injuries too and so do all the other teams in the league.
It shouldn’t be an excuse for the Dodgers and it shouldn’t be for the Padres either. Play the games with who’s available and may the best team win.
CN yeah, that sums it up. The original comment begged the points I (and others) raised and now everyone is jumping on me like I originated the conversation.
Before – as my point stated, I never said don’t talk about injuries. I said don’t complain about injuries like you are the only team with them and don’t use injuries as an excuse after you talk about how great your depth is. In other words, if you preach your depth as so something that can withstand injury, then it makes you seem like a cry baby when you cry injury. No one said you can’t talk about injuries just own it that everyone has them and don’t give me the ‘Padres had better win if they are ever going to crap’. It isn’t the injury that started this is was the attitude that Padres now have a chance.
Wait, you’ve gone to far. He doesn’t seem like a crybaby, he is a crybaby. Or just incredibly young and I era on the side of caution that the later is true.
Longtime, you talk so much about what dodger fans say. The team is a game out of first
Guys complained because players were giving overmatched at bats. No one asked for your condolences. We said let the team get healthy and the real team will show up. They’re no where near healthy, and already are catching up to SD and SF
You and brewer are constantly on every dodger thread gloating that the Padres are currently better. In essence, you’re celebrating the extent of the injured dodgers. You can claim you don’t mean it that way all you want when you’re called out, but it’s pretty clear you’re damn happy the dodgers are banged up
Brewer calling anyone a crybaby is gold. Pure comedic gold
“ When someone says that, it’s worth pointing out that the Padres have a bunch of injuries too and so do all the other teams in the league.
It shouldn’t be an excuse for the Dodgers and it shouldn’t be for the Padres either. Play the games with who’s available and may the best team win.”
CN, change every dodger to Padre and you’re lecturing Brewer and longtime. They come on every thread, ask why the dodgers aren’t playing well, then say OMG INJURIES!? Go lecture your fellow fan base
You just talk trash Before. Don’t read the posts and respond. It’s about baseball not immature jr high fanfare. Cheer up and if you really have nothing to add other than negative bs, give’r a rest.
@before McCourt. No, nice try. Never have I celebrated a Dodger injury, you’re way off the deep end.
Really Brewer? You’ve never gone into a dodger thread, asked why the dodgers were struggling, just to bring up the Padres and their injuries?
You did it in this thread! And that joy that you get from that setup, is you being happy on behalf of injured dodgers.
Wanna know how I know you get joy from it? You keep doing it. You’re transparent
I enjoy mlbtr chat for all teams, I follow the NL west the most. To say I target Dodgers threads is just pathetic. I don’t have a single favorite team like you do, so frankly I don’t understand fandom as toxic as yours. But I recommend you seek help, as your focus on attacking others for their opinions, or your warped perception of their “joy” seems seriously unhealthy. It’s just sports, not war, calm down and keep it sports.
If any team can sustain a rash of injuries, its the Dodgers. They will rely on the best 40 man roster in baseball and the quartet of Buehler, Kershaw, Bauer and Urias to weather the storm. And reinforcements are on the way in Bellinger and McKinstry… and Albert?
The fracture is no surprise. When the ball hit his hand it sounded like it hit the bat. That crack was loud.
Yeah god forbid anyone ever mentions injuries. Just acknowledging injuries doesn’t mean people are using it as an excuse. So many idiots chastise people for simply mentioning injuries. Injuries are part of the game, and there is nothing wrong with bringing them up. The people who have a problem with anyone mentioning injuries just come across as whiners. Also, for those of you who say no one can use injuries as an excuse, I have news for you…you and your myopic minds do not make the rules. You don’t get to dictate what people can and can’t do. Grow up.
Chief – so by mandating they myopic minds don’t make the rules are you not attempting to make the rules? Who says you get to make the rules with you non-myopic mind?
You must be directing this comment to someone, but I can’t figure out who. Since when are injury discussions off limits? Sometimes it seems like injuries are half the discussion around here. Where they go off the rails a lot of the time is when the amateur medical experts weight in on what causes them, and when chronic and acute conditions get mixed up.
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Longtimecoming
May 16, 2021
But the Dodgers have the most awesomest bestest depth that the world has ever seen (so we have heard for a year now – and admittedly, they do have a lot of great depth so don’t come back at me for that). My point is for all the Dodger fans – use your depth and don’t use injuries as an excuse. Injuries a are part of the game. They are unfortunate and I do NOT for an injury to any team or player. I just don’t go for the “oh we have depth” when it turns to “oh but we have injuries”. Pick one and ride it – I don’t even care which one you ride.”
Longtime and Brewer seem to show up on every dodger thread to gloat, trying to bait someone to mention player so and so is injured, and then both get to be condescending toward Dodger fan who mentions injuries saying LoL InJUrieS BuT LoOK at Us
Remember when they both got so mad that dodger fans were on the Darvish/Snell/ Musgrove trade posts, claiming we had nothing of substance to add we were just scared trolls? Now they seem to comment nearly exclusively on the dodgers. Hmmm
I get it, I guess, but it isn’t too much of a revelation that we see lots of trolling and bad attitudes in these discussions. They don’t control anything any more than we let them.
The negativity seems to come from Before, over and over. That said, glad Seager is only out 4 weeks, could have been much worse
“At least four weeks” is what they are saying now. So many little bones in the hand, I suppose it depends on which one(s) is broken.
And I think the negativity comes from you! What a shock!
How many times a week do you ask why are the dodgers playing poorly, only to set up the exact same tired list of injured Padres, most of which I proved was BS? I would bet I can find this exact exchange on every recent dodger thread, from your buddy
When you start having the same fight with multiple posters over many weeks. maybe it’s you
Before – your new word for the day “context”. Fred started this conversation by saying Padres had better win the division this year due to Dodgers injuries. No one came over to your site to troll or start an argument. Fred made his comment and we merely posted that Padres have injuries too and Dodgers claim they have such depth that they shouldn’t complain. You read our posts apparently and fail to read that we are responding to Fred. We aren’t just jumping on Dodgers posts for injuries to have fun. If Fred doesn’t make his comment, there are probably no posts about Padres injuries and the rest of it.
More bs. I don’t talk negative about the Dodgers at all, got examples? You seem lost on what to say here and just spew hate. I’m entertained but worried for you.
Do you seriously forget all the exchanges you have, or is this part of your trolling Brewer? You must think no one can read your posts. And You worry about me? How classic.
Truly, I worry for you. Your “favorite” teams are both relevant, who will you root for!? Oh yea, whoever makes it deeper in the playoffs
You both are on every dodger thread trying to get someone to mention injuries, just so you can gloat about how the Padres were playing better. How is that not celebrating that your opponent is more hurt, aka celebrating injuries themselves?
Longtime, you have mentioned “ most awesomest bestest depth that the world has ever seen (so we have heard for a year now)”… on EVERY SINGLE DODGER INJURY THREAD this year . You can’t scream “context!!!” when you find any reason to throw it in. Fred is just the latest to get sucked into your troll.
For all your trolling, LA entered today a game out of first. Must make both your bloods boil
Uh, not really. With all their depth and with all the Padres injuries, I would have expected them to be about 5-6 games up by now instead of behind. Pointing out that Padres actually have more missed games due to injury than ANY other team is not any way taking pleasure in Dodger injuries. Fred brought up injuries first – not me.
Honestly, are you 10?
Trevor story to the Dodgers
This is all my fault for drafting Seager in fantasy and predicting he’d win NL MVP. Sorry, Dodgers fans.
I don’t see Corey Seager getting monster contract this off season, I bet Seager to win MVP kiss that goodbye
The Dodgers are deep and are pushing it to the extreme this season. Gavin Lux / Chris Taylor at SS, Lux / Taylor / Max Muncy / Austin Barnes / Sheldon Nuese at 2B, Muncy / Albert Pujols/ Matt Beatty at 1B.
I’m going to say it again. With all the technology advances in gear these days, why can’t they come up with batting gloves or hand protectors with ‘armor’ in them? They should be able to make something that doesn’t impede hand action/mobility that offers some sort of protection to the fragile bones in the hand. All this hit by pitch hand injuries are becoming ridiculous!
Didn’t Bagwell have this like 25 years ago?
Top 5 Most Memorable Baseball Injuries:
5. The Spring Training Pigeon
4. Don Baylor Breaks leg catching opening pitch.
3. Pat “the Bat” Burrell contracts Syphillis.
2. Moises Alou and his violent sneeze.
1. Jose Canseco blows out arm throwing a few knuckleballs.
Charlie hough broke a finger shaking a guys hand
Not that it was memorable in a good way but how do you not list Dave Dravecky (sorry for spelling if this so wrong). Memorable meaning you can’t forget it.
The Dodgers Steve Yeager splintered bat in the neck was the worst I’ve seen
Pujols to short,, never too old to learn
If this turns out to be what is reported today (e.g., no surgery) and Seager makes normal uncomplicated recovery this is very good news for Corey and LAD. Admittedly, those caveats are huge. I’ll take it.
Actually, Seager didn’t fracture his hand; Ross Detwiler did.