The Braves are in agreement on a contract with free agent reliever Shane Greene, confirms MLB Network’s Jon Heyman (Twitter link). Talkin’ Jake of Jomboy Media was first to report the deal (via Twitter). It’s a one-year contract worth $1.5MM, which will wind up prorated in the $1.1MM – $1.2MM range given the amount of time in the season that has already passed, reports Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic (via Twitter). Greene will begin with Triple-A Gwinnett to build back up into game shape, per Rosenthal.
Greene will return to the team with which he’d spent the past year-plus. Atlanta acquired the veteran righty from the Tigers at the July 31 trade deadline in 2019, and he spent the next couple seasons in manager Brian Sntiker’s bullpen. Greene has logged 52 1/3 innings of 3.27 ERA/3.87 FIP ball since the deal, cementing himself as one of the team’s more reliable relievers.
The 32-year-old reached free agency at the end of last season, but his market moved incredibly slowly. He was linked to the Twins before Minnesota signed Alex Colomé, but there were no other clubs specifically tied to Greene in recent months. That lack of reported interest was a bit puzzling, considering Greene has been something of a bullpen workhorse over the years. After moving to relief in 2016, the former Yankee and Tiger eclipsed 60 innings in each season through 2019. Last year’s shortened campaign obviously brought an end to that streak, but Greene still appeared in 28 of Atlanta’s 60 contests.
Generally, Greene has paired that durability with quality production. He’s managed an ERA of 2.66 or lower in three of the past four years, with a 5.12 mark in 2018 standing as the exception. While he’s typically been adept at keeping runs off the board, Greene hasn’t racked up the gaudy strikeout totals of most high-end relievers. That was particularly true last season, when he punched out just 19.3% of opposing hitters, a far cry from the 24.1% league average for bullpen arms (and down from the 23-25% range in which he landed each of the four seasons before). Greene’s 7.5% swinging strike rate and 4.51 SIERA in 2020 were likewise below-average.
That discrepancy between Greene’s strong bottom line results and his downturn in whiffs could help explain why it took until May for he and a team to find a mutually agreeable term. It’s not especially surprising he’ll return to a place with which he’s obviously quite familiar and where he’s had plenty of success.
The Braves’ bullpen hasn’t been especially productive to this point in the season. Atlanta relievers currently sit 22nd in ERA (4.56), 19th in strikeout minus walk rate (12.9 percentage points) and 21st in SIERA (4.09). A.J. Minter, Will Smith and Tyler Matzek have each pitched fairly well, but Josh Tomlin, Grant Dayton, Jacob Webb and Sean Newcomb are off to tougher starts. Luke Jackson has a shiny 1.50 ERA but less inspiring peripherals.
Even with Greene re-signed and Chris Martin soon to return from the injured list, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Atlanta bolster the relief unit at the trade deadline. Despite an underwhelming 16-17 start, the Braves remain right in the thick of the National League East race. Even after factoring in Greene’s salary, Atlanta’s payroll commitments check in just shy of $133MM, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. That’s about $25MM south of the mark the Braves were slated to spend last season (prior to prorating), so it wouldn’t be a surprise if the Liberty Media ownership group gives GM Alex Anthopoulos and company some leeway to make further midseason additions.
birdsfan415
finally a team is gonna sign him
deweybelongsinthehall
Unless he was waiting for the Braves to come back to him or originally priced himself out of the market, it doesn’t make sense that he was unsigned until now.
oldmansteve
I think the $1.5mm tells us why he was unsigned. Trevor Rosenthal signed for $11mm. Liam Hendricks for an AAV of $18mm. I think he expected to get something closer to Kirby Yates at $5.5mm.
BeforeMcCourt
Prolly. And for 25% of what he expected to get, he only wanted to play in certain cities. Truly, that’s the only reason I think he was unsigned til now. When his market tanked, he became more selective, saying he’ll wait out injuries before just taking anything. Total speculation of course
deweybelongsinthehall
The Rosenthal signing was just stupid considering his injury track record and the small sample size of 2020.
brandons-3
About time. Newk looking good. Martin coming back. Starting to round into form. Probably will need another arm at the deadline and maybe a bat, but this is much needed and long overdue.
VonPurpleHayes
File this under “duh.” Great pick up.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
AA probably had to beg Liberty Media for the cash to sign Greene.
black69
For the 400th time, liberty has nothing to do with Braves financials.
brandons-3
That’s slightly incorrect. The Braves, like many other businesses, are just part of the Liberty Media portfolio. It’s an asset. It’s true that they don’t set payroll or give them a budget. But like all their other businesses, they expect the Braves to turn a profit. So in essence, they do.
Fan1234556545
The braves just opened to full capacity which meant they will produce more money and gives the braves more money to spend.
Samuel
@Fan1234556545;
You don’t think that in their projections for the season they didn’t expect increased gate revenue?
Do you think business budgets are changed every week or so…….depending?
stymeedone
@Samuel
They may have projected an increase from last year, but changing forecasts with changes in Covid protocols would be expected also. In Michigan, the Tigers are currently capped at 8200 per game. (It would be tough to draw that w/o the cap due to their play.) I don’t know Atlanta’s restrictions but if they have changed since the season started, that could easily put more money towards payroll. Teams can’t project based on 100% capacity, even if allowed to do so, as many fans will play it safe by avoiding crowds.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
@styme. Braves and Rangers are both open to however many fans wish to attend their home park games. Attendance at Braves home game (Truist Park) yesterday was 39,852 while the Rangers drew 26,616 to their home park (Globe Life Field) according to the box score at mlb.com for 5/8/21. Attendance for the Rangers today was 30,632.
BeforeMcCourt
“ You don’t think that in their projections for the season they didn’t expect increased gate revenue?”
Look at Samuel pretending he has a crystal ball again. Man you get old fast. NO. NO TEAM WAS BANKING ON 100% fans for 2021 and projecting off their guesses when that will take effect
It is all tied into local government regulations and nothing to do with the team. NO ONE was projecting “exactly 35 games in, we can have 100% fans. Great we have more money first week of May!”
They got the update. And then spent more money. How do you think it’s NOT correlated?
advplee
Per Liberty Media’s agreement with MLB, ALL proceeds must go back into the Braves. Liberty can not make a profit off the Braves. also John Shetholz has repeatedly stated that the payroll for the Braves is not controlled by Liberty media.
bravesfan
Gooooooooooooodddddddd about time! Lord
detroitfan69
Overrated he sucks
GareBear
I don’t think he’s rated very highly and would probably be under-appreciated if he hadn’t sat on the market this long. He’s been a incredibly reliable bullpen arm in 3 of the last 4 seasons. With relievers being so volition in today’s game it is understandable why teams hesitated to sign him but I’d expect he’d be an upgrade to most teams bullpen. Additionally, terms of the deal haven’t been announced so you can’t really judge the value, but I’d assume any one or two-year deal would fair, especially if y2 is a team option.
RunDMC
Him being rated as high as he is tells how shallow the RP market really is. I mean, Smyly should make a sacrifice to Jobu every day he walks into the clubhouse for it to have turned out like it did for him…and I hope Shane reminds him of it.
jdavidbr
Dumbass
bravesfan
For 1.5 mil, hes clearly underrated. To put this in prospective, LukeJackson is paid more than him even though his #’s are way worse
bhambrave
I hope he doesn’t start out like Kimbrel did when he signed with Chicago.
RunDMC
Jake! That guys awesome. Love he’s gettin’ the scoop. His lip-reading breakdowns are must-watch.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
The most surprising thing is that Talkin Jake broke this
arthur blank_for owner
is this the same guy who originally found the trash can banging footage of the Astros?
Mrtwotone
It’s the guy who found it’s best friend.
PapiElf
Talkin’ Jake!!!!!
Ron Tingley
The Justin Bieber of MLBTR.
Ron Tingley
Holy smokes only 1.5? Where were the Angels unless he’s east coast only type if dude.
John Smoke
He’s not great. But he’s definitely an upgrade for a terrible bullpen
bluejays92
Still surprised that it took this long. He’s not Mariano Rivera or anything, but he’s a quality pitcher. Good for him and the Braves.
Joel Peterson
It’s lame that a guy with his numbers couldn’t find a job until now. I don’t get it.
Questionable_Source
People have become less concerned about actual production. Doesn’t matter that his ERA dropped from 4.01 to 2.60. The only thing that seems to matter is that he had the same number of strikeouts, but in 3 more innings.
So, if you’re keeping score at home, a hitter’s strikeouts mean nothing, all outs are the same. If a pitcher gets an out that is not a strikeout, it didn’t happen.
epuration
Talkin Soyboy
mlbnyyfan
Cheap deal looks like Greene got desperate with no one calling.
Fan1234556545
Can Mlbtraderumors update the 2020-2021 free agent list to remove Shane Greene and matt Adams?
Monkey’s Uncle
But were the Blue Jays interested? You aren’t really a free agent unless the Blue Jays are interested in you.
Mrtwotone
Prorated 1.5 million. Is an absolute steal. He’s no josh Hader, but a quality arm.
dirkg
Apparently the Angels lost his phone number because I don’t know how he doesn’t fit in that bullpen for that price.
braves2
he probably wanted to go to a competitive team
Mrtwotone
@braves2
Bro, our favorite team isn’t exactly great lol.
BeforeMcCourt
It was geographical not based on winning. He wanted to sTay in or near FL.
He had 3 picks and a total of zero of them spent any real money this offseason. He limited himself is how I see it
BeforeMcCourt
With how bad relief pitching has been in MLB this year, there’s just no way zero teams would offer him 1.1M for the rest of the year… it had to be his choosing, to some degree
Ron Tingley
Right?
48-team MLB
I’m really surprised we got him so cheap.
bravesfan
Why couldn’t this be worked out before the season. Cheap contract
TradeAcuna
I personally have no comment on this move. Relievers are so hard to predict. Don’t know if Greene is the answer.
Please announce Pache is out next!
Let him regain any bit of value he still has and trade him for Story
RunDMC
And who’s going to accept your fantasy GM trade proposal without a GM in Denver? Interns playing GM for a day? They’ve already stolen an All-Star Game from us, why not a top prospect for a rental of a guy that is average at low elevation? Maybe just send Story as a thank you for the reported $100M of revenue from the AS Game.
TradeAcuna
They have money coming off the books. They can always resign him. Maybe they should have not spent on Ozuna’s all-star 60 game season. But that is also the Braves fault for their unwillingness to trade prospects or spend money on available outfielders (Castellanos) when available.
The Colorado nonsense needs to also be put aside.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Colorado nonsense? Look at the numbers for Story at home vs. away. Lol. Big difference. That’s like saying let’s put aside all this blue sky nonsense.
I’d rather have Pache. If you’re a huge fan of Story, I’m sure Colorado has room on the bandwagon for you.
TradeAcuna
It truly is hilarious how you denounce a proven player’s output, yet somehow cling to a player that has nothing more to his name than a fake prospect status.
RunDMC
Kind of like you neglecting the proven player’s output of having a career .765 OPS away from COL in about as many games as his .988 OPS at home? Sure, ball doesn’t travel further in thin air…! Plus, who takes over CF — Inciarte who hasn’t played in more than 65 games/season since 2018 — forgetting his league-worse bat? Face it, this trade makes little sense and we haven’t discussed the pitching they’d want in return. Pass.
Appalachian_Outlaw
You’re oversimplifying it, but ok, Ian. The proven player you’re talking about, as Run pointed out, has also proven what he is on the road- solid, but not spectacular.
You want to trade 7 years of a GG caliber CF for that, and you want to pay Story like the All-Star his home numbers in Colorado have misleadingly boosted him to be? That’s not even touching on the fact it wouldn’t be 1 for 1.
No thank you. It’s not at all hard- nor expensive- to find a guy to hit .260 with 15-20 HRs in free agency, if they even need that.
The way I see it, the Braves just need better health and another arm or two in the pen they can rely on. Greene may be one.
stymeedone
Colorado didn’t steal the ASG from Atlanta. That was the doing of their Republican legislature.
48-team MLB
While I do agree that Colorado didn’t “steal” the All-Star Game from Atlanta, politics have no place in sports.
1984wasntamanual
I think that was actually the doing of Manfred and MLB, but please continue.
BeforeMcCourt
Wait.. Run thinks the Braves would overpay Pache for Story? Hahahahah that’s good
Does Arenado suck outside of col? Real huge drop off right?? Oh, none? Did Matt Holiday? Wait he had a great career in STL after he left Col?? Hmm. Story, like every other Rockies star hitter who’s left in their recent prime, will be just fine. He will still be a 120 OPS+ bat. And pache is a Soon to be AAAA player
Leaving Col to go on the road is a huge change for hitters. Multiple former Rockies have said it’s easier to leave Col and be a more complete hitter, because the breaking pitches break the same. In Col, a curveball could lose half its tilt on some days. Then he faces that same guy In SF, and he looks like a fool, because it breaks 2x as much. But hey, you keep pache
RunDMC
Say what now? Guess you’re getting lost in the convo. I was entertaining ramblings, which is dangerous. No, ATL isn’t trading a cheap starter with a high-floor for years of control for a superstar rental. It’s been a few years since I fell off the turnip truck.
BeforeMcCourt
Run 2 of the first 5 replies are you laughing at the idea of Pache for Story. Don’t make me copy and paste it
Pache is not a high floor player. He is a defensive sub floor player. He has to hit or get on base to be a high floor player. He does neither. He has 1 year with an OPS over 740 in his entire career. A .100/.150/.190 hitter with mediocre minor league numbers isn’t a high floor player. A 7th to 8th inning defensive sub because you’re trying to keep him from hitting is not valuable
Apparently your analysis on Braves players is still on the turnip truck
Franco27
Pitchers who miss spring training and first 6 weeks of season usually suck.
bravesnation nc
I TOLD EVERYONE
BeforeMcCourt
No one is surprised tho..
braves2
idk, I didnt watch every single game, but I remember when they originally traded for Greene. I had never heard of him, but liked his stats and what the writers were saying of his skills. But if memory serves, I dont think he did well with Atl. He always came in and gave up runs, let the other team tie or take the lead. Personally I got Luke Jackson-esque nervous when he came in.ok maybe not tthhhhat bad, but still..
RunDMC
He pitched well for a really, really bad DET team in 2019 and did almost nothing after being added to ATL later that year. 2020 was a different story, performing well, but in an age of advanced stats and strikeouts – two things that don’t really favor him – he’s somewhat forgotten about. He’s seemed to outperform his FiP most years, but for $1.5M and previous success with our ‘pen – quick fixes rarely comes this cheap, if that’s what he is.
Mrtwotone
@rundmc
Good point brother, I’d just like to add that he was pretty solid after his first three appearances with the braves in 2019.
SoCalBrave
Thanks to Nate and Carl for making AA realize the obvious.
BraveJason
Does anyone know Why Freeman never celebrates with or when his teammates do something good?
Neil G
Freeman has been around the block more times than most of the kids on this team, so elder statesmen tend to be more subdued. That said, you are not the first to note that Freeman doesn’t seem to be having as much fun this year. I don’t know what to make of it though.
BeforeMcCourt
Total outsider just asking. Anyone think contract negotiations may have soured some relationships? Or not getting that vibe? Just curious, bc he seemed to be happy go lucky against LA most of the LCS
Neil G
Freeman looked more smiley face tonight. He had a HR and a single. Freeman was batting below 200 coming into this game, so his mood may simply be due to a slump worse than he is accustomed to. But I really don’t know and haven’t heard anything from people connected to the Braves
RunDMC
Not sure what you’re referencing. If it’s the Mother’s Day game, it might be because that game is always emotional for him since he lost his mom years ago and has made a pact in year’s past to have an incredible Mother’s Day game for his mom – whom he wears sleeves (especially in day games) to protect himself from sun/skin cancer which is mom passed from, as a way of honoring her. Yesterday wasn’t the first time he’s honored her by homering on the Mother’s Day game. It’s probably especially emotional since he and Chelsea have new 2 young boys this year, in addition to Charlie. I’ve noticed that Acuña will always share a hug usually only with Freddie after either does something, which is something Freddie has kept up over the years (hugs), so I don’t know if you just noticed an odd day, but I hadn’t noticed anything that would indicate Freddie doesn’t celebrate with the team.
Neil G
braveJason may be referring to stories popping up on Braves press sources (not official sources) that Freeman appears unhappy in the dugout, not his usual self.
After reading some of these stories, I have been watching Freeman during games. He does appear more subdued to me too except last night when he appeared upbeat.
Since all this is more like gossip at this point, I’m not going to make too much of it. If he is feeling a bit sour, it may be nothing more than getting off to a slow start with the bat.
Anyhoo, I’m trying to lower the gossip train here by saying (1) we don’t know if he is unhappy and (2) if he is unhappy we don’t know why and shouldn’t pretend to know why at this point in time
FredMcGriff for the HOF
@rundmc. Well put. Any long term Braves fan knows that Freddie lost his mother at a young age. I expect the challenges of growing his family from 1 to 3 kids recently has been a challenge. I seen somewhere that Freddie is having a hard time being away from his young family. Hopefully Freddie signs a extension with the Braves for at least a few more years.
Neil G
Somebody said Greene was at Truist Park a few days ago. I took that as a sign he wanted to come back to Braves. I’d be very interested if he offered a similar deal to any other team.
bravesnation nc
Dude makes guys put it play and produces weak contact. It’s better than giving up walk after walk every time out.
Neil G
Article above emphasizes Greene’s downturn in stats last year. MLB website has an article and mentions this stat.
His hard-hit rate decreased from 39.8 percent to 33.3 percent, and his barrel rate decreased from 8.9 percent to 6.5 percent.
So Greene actually showed improvement last year in hard hit pitches.
Just based on recall but I recall that he pitched well in postseason including in the last series by navigating through some good hitters.
Mrtwotone
@Neil G
That’s a quality post man! I didn’t even realize that about the hard contact. His strikeout numbers were down as stated utility I’d actually rather Greene induce weak contact.
JAMES JACOBSEN
I like the signing anything that keeps Luke Jackson off the mound.
jeffblauser
Amen
Neil G
I believe Pache will come around at the plate. Don’t know if he will ever be a high 200 hitter or better but I think he can be at or above 250 with great defense. That said……
He is now flirting with a sub 100 Bavg and is not making hard contact when he doesn’t strike out. Even Ender hits better than that. Braves won’t be able to stick with Pache this season unless there is better contact on the ball.
Pache has never had more than a cup of coffee’s worth of ABs at Gwinnett. Having a year at Gwinnett would do him some good on the offensive side of things. Ender is rehabbing at Gwinnett. He went 1 for 5 yesterday (as I recall).
Ender is not going to hit well in the bigs this season (most likely) but I would at least expect something in the lower half of 200s. And the Braves might not have to use Ender full time depending on moves they make going forward.
Best solution is that Pache starts to hit and make good contact.
BeforeMcCourt
Not to be a jerk, but honesty, has Pache ever really hit? 2019 was hit best professional year and he managed just a 802 OPS. He has looked extremely overmatched against mlb pitching. How much confidence do you have that he’s suddenly going to turn it on?
Neil G
Pache hit well above 250 at all stages of his minor league trail.
In a full year at A ball Rome, he hit 281 in 2017.
He split time between high A Florida (285) and AA Mississippi (260) in 2018
He split time between AA Miss (278) and AAA Gwinnett (274) in 2019=But with limited time at Gwinnett.
Pache has not shown much power, although he had 11 HRs for Mis in 2019. For Pache, that was a surge and gave some hope that he might increase those numbers in the future.
In the opening post I said that I expect him to at least hit around 250 at the ML level eventually, but he is clearly not doing that yet.
bravos14
Pache is in a bad situation at the moment, stating the obvious. Imagine being told over and over again that hitting is not what got you to the Show. So, just go out there and play Gold Glove defense and not worry about hitting, but here’s 20 things you might want to try to improve. And, don’t be concerned that most of the other fielders, minus Ronnie & Austin, are playing below their usual standards. Bottom line, the pressure is on.
Neil G
I don’t believe an excessive amount of pressure should be on Pache, no more than most MLers I mean. The coaches should emphasize if and when he goes to Gwinnett that it’s just another stage in his development.
Lack of minors in 2020 hurt lots of players, Pache included. He would have spent most of the year at Gwinnett and maybe been better prepared for 2021 on the big club.
BeforeMcCourt
Lol batting average. Cmon. You know batting average is one of the worst projectors in a young hitter. Both of those years, his OPS was not above 720. That’s barely league average IF he could maintain that in the majors, and he clearly hasn’t
He needs a high OBP more than power
bravesfan
My question is why couldn’t this exact deal been made in the offseason. It’s cheap, he could have already been ramped up and pitching for us. It’s crazy, but he’s paid less than Luke Jackson. That’s kinda a sin
Cohn Joppolella
So much for that massive deal he was holding out for! I really hope he can stabilize the pen though.
tsm257
There has to be something going on behind the scenes. Bad teammate, doesn’t connect well with coaches/front office, or something that is a huge negative on this guy. To take 1.5 prorated right now, with the stats and stuff he has….there is something else here. This doesn’t add up. He’s a former all start, who was making 4-6 in arbitration. You don’t slide down to 1.5 prorated and have to sit until Mid-May for this type of contract. Thoughts?
BeforeMcCourt
He only wanted to go to ATL and ATL is cheap. There’s your answer