The Padres finally put themselves back on the map in 2020. Emboldened by last year’s success, president of baseball operations A.J. Preller spent the winter attempting to assemble a championship-caliber roster. Preller had plenty of money to play with, evidenced by the Padres’ franchise-record $174MM Opening Day payroll.
Major League Signings
- Ha-Seong Kim, INF: Four years, $28MM (mutual option for 2025)
- Jurickson Profar, INF/OF: Three years, $21MM
- Mark Melancon, RHP: One year, $3MM ($5MM mutual option or $1MM buyout for 2022)
- Keone Kela, RHP: One year, $1.2MM
- Brian O’Grady, INF/OF: One year, $650K (split contract)
- Total spend: $54.05MM
Trades And Claims
- Acquired LHP Blake Snell from the Rays for RHPs Luis Patino and Cole Wilcox, C Francisco Mejia and C/1B Blake Hunt
- Acquired RHP Yu Darvish and C Victor Caratini from the Cubs for RHP Zach Davies, INFs Reginald Preciado and Yeison Santana, and OFs Owen Caissie and Ismael Mena
- Acquired RHP Joe Musgrove from Pirates in three-team trade for OF Hudson Head, LHPs Joey Lucchesi and Omar Cruz, and RHPs Drake Fellows and David Bednar
- Acquired LHP James Reeves from the Yankees for OF Greg Allen
- Claimed RHP Jordan Humphreys from the Giants
Notable Minor League Signings
- Nabil Crismatt, Patrick Kivlehan, Parker Markel, Jacob Rhame, Nick Burdi, Nick Ramirez, Wynston Sawyer
Extensions
- Fernando Tatis Jr., SS: 14 years, $340MM
- Mike Clevinger, RHP: Two years, $11.5MM
Notable Losses
- Patino, Mejia, Lucchesi, Trevor Rosenthal, Garrett Richards, Jason Castro, Kirby Yates, Mitch Moreland, Luis Perdomo, Greg Garcia
At 37-23, the Padres finished with the majors’ third-best record last season, but that still left them six games behind the Dodgers – their NL West rival and the reigning World Series champions. With that in mind, Preller and his front office cohorts used the past few months seemingly leaving no stone unturned in an effort to overthrow the Dodgers, who have ruled the division for eight consecutive seasons. The Padres showed interest in a variety of household names both in free agency and trades, and they were successful in reeling in a few big fish.
The always aggressive Preller’s main headline-grabbing acquisitions addressed the Padres’ rotation, which was terrific last year. However, the Padres saw a couple of their top starters – Dinelson Lamet and Mike Clevinger – go down with injuries late in the season, while Garrett Richards then exited in free agency. Lamet hasn’t yet returned from the elbow issues that ended his season in September, though he doesn’t seem far away from his 2021 debut. On the other hand, the Padres learned in November that Clevinger, who was a blockbuster in-season pickup, required Tommy John surgery. He’s not going to pitch at all in the current campaign, but that didn’t stop the Padres from signing Clevinger to a two-year, back-loaded deal with the hope that he’ll factor in come 2022.
In the wake of the Clevinger news, the Padres went to work in a major way. They showed interest ranging from mild to serious in free agents such as Trevor Bauer, Masahiro Tanaka, Tomoyuki Sugano, Adam Wainwright, Kohei Arihara and Martin Perez. Trade targets included Sonny Gray and Lance Lynn, though the Padres instead landed three other high-profile starters via that route.
The first domino to fall for San Diego was the acquisition of former AL Cy Young winner Blake Snell from the Rays. Snell has three years and $39MM of control left, so as you’d expect, the Rays didn’t give him away for cheap. Rather, the package headed to Tampa Bay centered on 21-year-old righty Luis Patino, who ranks among the premier prospects in the sport. The Padres also had to surrender two other quality prospects – righty Cole Wilcox and catcher/first baseman Blake Hunt – as well as a once-heralded farmhand in Francisco Mejia. Acquired from the Indians in the teams’ Brad Hand trade in 2018, Mejia was never able to establish himself with the Padres at catcher, nor did his offense come close to matching the hype.
The Snell swap wasn’t the only late-December present for the Padres or their fans. Shortly after swinging the trade with Tampa Bay, Preller & Co. pried 2020 NL Cy Young finalist Yu Darvish and catcher Victor Caratini from the Cubs. It didn’t cost the Padres nearly as much this time, in part because they ate all but $3MM on the $62MM Darvish is owed over the next three years. The Padres did have to give up one of their best 2020 starters, Zach Davies, but he’ll be a free agent next offseason. Plus, it’s hard not to view Darvish as a clear upgrade over Davies. Along with Davies, San Diego parted with four prospects – shortstops Reginald Preciado and Yeison Santana and outfielders Owen Caissie and Ismael Mena – but all of those players are at least a few years from the majors. That’s if they make it at all.
The addition of Caratini came as welcome news for Darvish, as the former is his personal catcher. Caratini played second fiddle to Willson Contreras in Chicago, but he has typically blended passable offense for his position with well-graded defense. Once Austin Nola returns from a fractured finger, he and Caratini should give the Padres a solid one-two behind the plate with Luis Campusano also in the mix.
No one would have blamed the Padres had they stopped at Snell and Darvish, but they decided there was more to accomplish. Just a few weeks after scooping up those two, the Padres executed yet another eyebrow-raising trade, this time hauling in righty Joe Musgrove from the Pirates. While Musgrove doesn’t carry a Snell- or Darvish-like track record, he did give the Pirates useful mid-rotation production for multiple seasons. Now back in his native San Diego, Musgrove has thrived, having already thrown the first no-hitter in franchise history. He has also yielded just one earned run in his first 19 innings in a Padres uniform.
To pick up Musgrove’s two affordable remaining years of team control, the Padres again sent away a bunch of non-elite prospects (Hudson Head, Drake Fellows, David Bednar and Omar Cruz). The only major leaguer they said goodbye to was Joey Lucchesi, whom the Mets acquired in the three-team deal. Like going from Davies to Darvish, Musgrove gives the Padres an obvious improvement over Lucchesi.
All said, the Padres acquired two front-line starters and another who may be turning into one while moving only a single star prospect (Patino). So, even in spite of dumping double-digit prospects in these deals, the Padres’ farm system is still pretty loaded. In fact, according to MLB.com, it’s the game’s sixth-best system – one that still boasts four top-100 players in lefty MacKenzie Gore (No. 6), shortstop CJ Abrams (No. 8), Campusano (No. 45) and outfielder Robert Hassell III (No. 62).
Along with finding outside starting pitching, taking care of key inside business was among the primary items on the Padres’ offseason checklist. They and the face of their franchise, 22-year-old shortstop Fernando Tatis Jr., made it clear entering the winter that they wanted to hammer out a contract extension. Tatis wasn’t on track to reach arbitration until after 2022 or become a free agent until the end of the 2024 season, but the Padres weren’t going take a chance on losing him in his mid-20s. Instead, in late February, they succeeded in locking up Tatis into his mid-30s.
The agreement with Tatis is historic – a 14-year, $340MM pact that shattered Mike Trout’s previous record guarantee of $144MM for a pre-arb player. It’s also the second $300MM-plus contract the Padres have doled out over the past couple years, as they previously signed third baseman Manny Machado to a decade-long deal in free agency. The club now has the left side of its infield under wraps with two superstar-caliber players for the foreseeable future.
The rotation improvements and the Tatis extension represented the offseason heavy lifting for the Padres, but they were active in other areas. Most notably, they signed former Korea Baseball Organization standout Ha-Seong Kim to a four-year, $28MM guarantee with a $5.5MM posting fee paid to the Kiwoom Heroes. Kim isn’t an upgrade over Tatis, Machado or second baseman Jake Cronenworth, but the team felt it was a worthwhile risk to spend on a versatile 25-year-old whom many regard as a top-1o0 prospect.
The Kim signing wasn’t the last of the Padres’ depth-bolstering moves in free agency. A few weeks after they won the Kim sweepstakes, the Padres re-upped Jurickson Profar on a three-year, $21MM guarantee. The contract includes a pair of opt-outs, so if Profar plays well enough this year or next, he could elect to return to free agency. For at least another year, though, he’ll continue to give the Padres someone who can play multiple positions and offer league-average or slightly better offense at a reasonable annual cost. Profar’s fourth on the Padres in plate appearances this year, and he has already lined up at four spots (first, second and both corner outfield positions).
The bullpen was also a matter of some offseason importance for the Padres, who faced the losses of relievers Trevor Rosenthal and Kirby Yates in free agency. San Diego showed interest in bringing both back, but they departed for higher paydays elsewhere. The Padres seem to have dodged bullets in both cases, as Rosenthal underwent thoracic outlet surgery earlier this month and Yates had a Tommy John procedure in March.
Rosenthal and Yates signed for a combined $16.5MM in guarantees, but the Padres spent far less on their relief corps, inking Mark Melancon and Keone Kela for a total of $4.2MM. It’s early, but the always steady Melancon has been a bargain for the Padres so far. He’s 5-for-5 in save opportunities and hasn’t allowed a walk or a run in six innings of one-hit ball. Likewise, Kela has been flawless in the runs allowed department, having surrendered none in 5 2/3 frames. The hard-throwing Kela had an impressive three-year stretch of run prevention and strikeouts with the Rangers and Pirates from 2017-19, but a positive COVID-19 test and forearm troubles held him to two innings last season. If healthy, though, he also has a chance to end up as a steal for San Diego. So far, so good.
Although it’s only mid-April, the Padres look as if they’re going to be a force again this year, thanks in no small part to Preller’s offseason moves. So impressed with his work, Padres ownership decided in February to upgrade Preller’s title from general manager to president of baseball ops and extend him through 2026. It appears the Padres are in capable hands with Preller at the helm, but how would you grade their offseason?
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A+
If they don’t get an A, idk who does.
Someone a bit more careful about long term commitments… balancing going all in now vs the ability to adjust in the near future if things don’t go as planned. Sustained winning takes more than handing contracts to the big names that fans typically drool over. In other words, yes, your typical fan sees this as a no brainer A+++ but the reality is a bit more subtle and complex.
They traded a lot of talent for Snell and Darvish. Both moves could backfire especially moving Patino.
Snell has 4 years. Darvish has 3 years.
By the time their contracts are up Preller will have replenished the farm with draft picks and IFAs over the course of 3 and 4 years.
A name to watch is Brayan Medina.
Not bad. Would be an A+ if not for the Clevinger extension.
I disagree because it wasn’t an extension. He was under contract for two years still. we just bought his two years of arbitration so a judge doesn’t make the decision for the Padres or Clev. This move was a way to free up money this year since we were going to be spending so much of it. It also allows for Clev to gain trust in the organization that they were willing to “overpay” that last year of arb. Another smart move by Preller.
I didn’t want to, but I had to give an A.
Melancon was a steal. Most other teams including the Braves should be ashamed they let him sign that cheap.
He had other offers.
I believe Melancon said that his priority for this season was to win a championship. He’s made a lot of money and now he wants a ring. Maybe he felt that the Padres were in a better position to make that happen than the other teams that were interested in him.
One of the best on-paper offseasons in recent years. A+
Not to be a Padres homer, but it’s an easy A. The club I root for seems to finally be trying to win.
been waiting my whole life for this!
A-minus, but not a A. I ran some very advanced statistics, sabermetrics and algorithms that aren’t available online and it came up with A-. I never question sabermetrics and algorithms and 100% abide by whatever they tell me to think.
I firmly believe in analytics place in baseball, but this is the comment of the year.
They’re rushing back Tatis. Why? Take an extra week, make sure he’s OK.
Because they play LA 7 times in the next 11 days. Or else he’d be on the shelf for the next month most likely
They had an amazing offseason. They aren’t too dogs like the dodgers or Mets . But they should be the 3rd best team in the NL.
Gotta tip my hat to your staunch support of your club, @mestfan22. I – honestly – can respect that.
However.
Both Las Vegas & fangraphs (a couple really good sources, in particular Vegas, absolutely disagree with your take). So loving your squad is one thing. Blindly disregarding obvious reality is quite another.
On to the topic.
I really don’t see how anyone could give them less than an “A”. They killed it this winter.
I gave them a B. It could easily have been an A but I’m not entirely sold on the signing big names, trading prospects for big names plan. They’re a good team on paper (yes, a bit better than my Mets) but the moves were perhaps just very flashy; we’ll have to see how it goes.
Huh.
Are they merely “big names” or are they actually Very Good Baseball Players? Ya know?
Interesting take. @Cos. Setting aside the whole mets fan thing, I generally think you have pretty good takes.
So.
I’ll think about it.
Basically to run down my theory: in this case the big names are good players. However, often big names are past their prime but fans just focus on the big name. However this is not the case in SD, they’ve actually collected some very good players. But at what value? Usually the big name is an overpay; the lesser name next on the list may be very similar in talent but at a better value. Fans rarely see this. But really I’m nit-picking just to take my favorite stand, which is that big spending and star players don’t make dynasties, efficiency and a well rounded plan does. Think of the Yankees of the mid to late 80’s verse the mid to late 90’s. Yea the Yankees bought big, but really it was the homegrown core that was their strength. But all that being said, I agree that the Pods had a heckuva off season.
Beat me to it.
“…Yankees bought big, but the reality is it was the homegrown core that was their strength.”
Yeah. Pretty much.
As I was reading your post I thought that was going to be the meat of my response. You did not let that occur.
I’ll say this though: I can’t help but miss the King George era of Yankee baseball. Didn’t always work, certainly.
But the man threw money around like a Squid on shore leave. Which was always fun.
@ Cosmo2;
You follow the Mets and you don’t like trading prospects for “name” players?
Samuel: hate it! Hate it! I’d rather still have Kelenic and Gimenez and the money saved to spread out on better deals in free agency. I know I’m an anomaly but I’m not a huge fan of the Lindor extension. I prefer the A’s/Rays model of success; I think it works better and more often.
I agree. Too many casual fans see a big name, and automatically like the trade. They could’ve had a pretty young, and pretty cheap good core without trading away for the big names. It basically a choice of Cano, Lindor & Carrasco, or Gimenez, Rosario, and Kelenic, plus $67M to spend.
I bleed orange and blue myself but lets get back to realism.
Incredible job by Preller overcompensating for the loss of Clevinger and the dubious health status of Lamet. Easy A. Enjoy it, Padres fans. You all know as well as anyone that it’s not always this good.
Anyone who gives a D is probably a Dodgers fan lol
@bbatardo –
“Probably”?
I think you could have gone with “most certainly” there. Pretty fun (except when it’s overly ill spirited) to watch how the dodgers fans on the board try to convince us all how “unconcerned” they are while exhibiting all the signs of sheer panic.
It’s prevalent on every single Padres thread that I’ve read.
NL west, best division in baseball. For long time
Yeah idk. SF is one of most competitive franchises in baseball but that’s still only 3 teams deep.
Best division in the NL lol
No matter how the writers or fans try to minimize it, they gave up 12 prospects and multiple additional MLB contributors this offseason. And they broke the “untouchable” group.
Truly the “gains” are suspect. Darvish is 34 and was an albatross 5 months ago. They took nearly every dollar owed to him for the next 3. Snell hasn’t pitched into the 6th yet. He’s a #3 at best. Musgrove had an amazing story and then couldn’t pitch more than 4 innings the next go
They overpaid for Profar and jumped into a record contract with Tatis likely 12 months before they needed to. They got the headlines, but it’s a B. The talent they shipped out, and the risk they absorbed, is too great for an A
The media doesn’t talk about how the Padres keep trading multiple players from each recent draft class including 2 from 2020. Thats not sustainable at all, not matter how much you want to praise them.
2020 they drafted 5 guys lmao. 5. So they traded 2 kept 3.
Theres also this thing called the international free agent period.
2020 draft: 5 guys
2020 ifa spending: 12 guys
2019 theyve kept Abrams and Mears, traded Driscoll and Head from their top choices.
2019 they signed 15 ifas and to my knowledge theyve traded Preciado and Mena
Oh and theyll have drafts and ifa spending in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.
Media doesn’t talk about it cause theyve kept a majority of their top prospects despite getting Clevinger, Darvish, Snell, and Musgrove. And theyll receive competitive balance picks in 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024.
They aren’t getting competitive balance picks with where their payroll is at. Pure delusion. Padre fans are cute thinking trading 20 prospects over the past few years will have zero impact on the team.
You do realize competitive balance picks are based off payroll / market size right? Course not. You havent proven you know what youre talking about thus far.
Padres are a top 10 small market team in the mlb.
Padres will qualify due to revenue.
Dont like being corrected amk? Put a little effort into your posts.
Tatis jr, grisham, cronenworth, nola, machado, hosmer, darvish, snell, paddack, etc under contract least 3 more years
Free agents to be
Musgrove & Clevinger (2 years)- in house options include Morejon, Weathers, Gore.
Myers (2 years)- in house options Ona, Abrams, Hassel
Pham (1 year) – Profar replaces Pham in 2022.
Its adorable. You know little to nothing about the current construction of the padres roster and post bad takes as if the Padres wont be adding to the farm while already having replacements ready for guys with 2 or less years left.
Lmao OK. Padres won’t have anymore top 10 picks to add to the farm. They will add mid level prospects but that won’t replenish the farm if Preller keeps trading at this rate. You realize competitive balance picks are a lottery? You just assumed they would win that lottery 4 years in a row. But yeah idk what I’m talking about.
Every prospect is a lottery ticket if you want to get technical. Theres no guarantee ANY prospect makes it. Guys drafted in the first round dont make it and guys drafted in the 30+ rounds make it.
Beauty of baseball.
2021 mlb draft- 20 rounds + ifa signings (10-20)
2022 mlb draft- 20+ rounds + ifa signings (10-20)
2023 mlb draft – 20+ rounds + ifa signings (10-20)
Also heres what you originally said
“They aren’t getting competitive balance picks with where their payroll is at”
And now you said “You realize competitive balance picks are a lottery”
Ah so they DO have a chance to get a pick with where their payroll is at…because they meet the other critera…..small market team…which contradicts your previous statement of they wont, implying they dont qualify to receive a competitive balance pick. Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
Also mid round picks….
You mean like
Myers (3rd round)
Grisham (15th overall)
Pham (16th round)
Cronenworth (7th round)
Nola (5th round)
Melancon (9th round)
Kela (12th round)
Musgrove (#46 overall)
Paddack (8th round)
Snell (#52 overall)
Hill (32nd round)
Pagan (10th round)
Stammen (12th round)
Plus ifa signings to make it in
Profar
Mateo
Tatis jr
Yeah. Padres nor any team will find talent in a draft unless its top 10!
Not a single player you just named was drafted by the Padres. You can’t even name a single player they have drafted in the last 10 years that has come up and been a productive player. That organization has zero track record of developing talent and has to rely on trades to be competitive. Even Gore who was hyped up to be the next Kershaw has been passed by Weathers in the depth chart.
I never said they were drafted by the padres.
I listed where in the draft they were drafted proving you dont need top 10 picks to find talent.
Keep moving that goal post man.
*padres will replenish the farm with drafts + ifas in 2021 2022 2023 2024
*padres are eligible for competitive balance picks
*guys theyve traded for come with multiples years of control. Grisham, Tatis Jr, Cronenworth, Strahm, Darvish, Snell, Nola etc.
*Part of the reason Padres went after Snell, Musgrove, and Darvish is their teams just gave them away to shed salary, including Clevinger laat year; preller pounced on clevinger cause indians have been trying to shed salary for years and he had that curfew issue. Had covid not happened Darvish, Snell, Clevingerand Musgrove net more. Guaranteed. Cubs, Rays, Pirates, indians took lesser deals to shed salary committments in 2020 and beyond.
Bad take after bad take after bad take amk.
Youre looking at trades padres made for 4 pitchers whos price tags were lowered due to financial comstraints as if thats normal operating procedure.
You just completely exposed yourself as a delusional Padres homer. They traded a huge haul for Clevinger just fir him to blow out his arm. Indians got 3 major league depth pieces and 3 mid level prospects. For a guy who will be lucky to have 30 starts under team control for SD. They traded an even bigger haul for Snell. Patino was one of the untouchables top 20 prospect in baseball, well so much for him. Hunt and Wilcox are extremely high regarded mid level prospects who would shock no one if they moved into the top 100. Darvish had negative value 12 months ago. If the Cubs could have got more why didn’t they? Your ideas of what the Padres gave up in these deals is comical. You live in a total fantasy land where Preller can do no wrong even though his first attempt a winning was a disaster and he had to completely tank 4 seasons just to be competitive. Come back to reality where the Padres have don’t nothing to prove they are a contender.
And your narrative about the money is pretty hilarious as well. Plenty of teams would love to have Blake Snell on his contract. Padres got him because they were willing to give up the most. Yeah when Preller trades a top 20 prospect, former top 100 prospect, and two recent 2nd-3rd round draft picks the Rays will bite. I wonder what player Preller will use his 2021 draft picks to trade for this year? I bet teams love dealing with AJ. Just tell him you need more in a deal and he will panic and trade a player he just took in the 2nd round.
“Huge haul”
Lmao. 0 top 100 prospects for Clevinger
Josh Naylor
Austin Hedges
Cal Quantril
Prospects
Gabriel Arias
Joey Cantillo
Owen Miller
Another bad take
“Huge haul” for Snell
Note: thought he had 4 years he only has 3. My mistake
Patino
Mejia
Hunt
Wilcox
Yeah. 3 years 39 mill for a #1/#2 should only get you 1 top 100 prospect, a failed catching prospect, a 3rd rounder who hasnt lived up to his draft status thus far, and a wild card in wilcox.
Worse pitchers have netted more with less team control last 10 years.
Another bad take.
“Why didnt cubs get more”
That would have required them to eat salary on Darvishs contract. More money they ate more of return theyd get.
Most teams were relunctant to take on salary this year, which limited their ability to trade him, unless they ate salary…..which the ricketts werent going to do.
Cubs chose to eat as little as possible, think it was 5 mill.
Straight salary dump for the cubs given financial limitations from covid.
# of teams to actually spend money on free agents this off season:
4 blue jays phillies, braves, yankees all broke 100mill
# of teams to spend less than 50 mill this off season on free agents: 22
# of teams to spend money on resigning/extending: 3 padres royals mets all spent 100+ mill
# of teams to spend less than 50 mill resigning/extending: 26. Astros spent 86 mill….next closest 11 mill from the twins
But yeah teams were just jumping to add financial committmets this off season.
Another bad take proving you dont have a clue what youre talking about.
At one point reports were saying the rays wanted to attach Kiermaier to Snell to unload his financial commitment…..because the rays wanted to clear salary. If the rays seriously had suitors for snell theyd have netted a significantly better package simply from teams out bidding each other.
The 2021 off season teams had 0 information on if fans would be able to attend games in most states. 0. So teams werent lining up to take on money not knowing if theyd be able to get fans in the stands.
Its almost laughable you discredit the impact covid had on teams and their financial decisions, which clearly played a large roll in many decisions this past off season.
Another bad take from you.
Amk. Another miscalculated komment
Only bad takes are coming from the guy who thinks trading 20 players in 4 deals alone won’t come back to harm them at all. Padres could sure use Quantrill right now to eat some innings. Are you in a fantasy land where Clevinger is healthy? Indians destroyed Preller in that deal. Name a single trade where someone with equal value to Snell got traded for more. Team didn’t want Darvish because he is 35 and inconsistent through out his career. You see the world through brown and yellow glasses. It’s pretty comical you think all their deals were great steals because teams didn’t want to pay guys and Preller got them at a discount. You can turn off the Xbox now. Padres are always going to be the Dodgers little brother.
Sonny Gray, A’s netted 3 top 100 prospects with 2-2.5 years of control.
20 players 4 deals…..and how many are currently blocked or years away from contributing? Oh all of them? Once again proving you have 0 knowledge about tbe current construction of the roster.
Its hilarious you think you think you know more about the padres than fans do. You dont. Its quite obvious. Painfully obvious youre out of your league in this thread.
Come back with better takes. Cause everything youve posted is wrong, uninformed, and clearly comes from a third rate fan who thinks they know baseball but doesnt have a single clue about a team they dont follow.
Heres how uniformed you are. Of the 20 how many were rule 5 eligible meaning Padres had to protect them / trade them or risk exposing them and losing them for nothing? How many are in a ball at time of the trade?
Ill wait for you to respond once you look it up.
Third ratw band wagon fans like you have tunnel vision
Rule 5 and covid apparently dont exist in your limited baseball knowledge reality.
Imagine telling someone their takes are bad while lauding the A’s return for Gray over Snell. Even if they were top 100 prospect (not sure Dustin Fowler ever was) Fowler and Kaprielan were both out with massive injures. Mateo never had a good hit tool. His project status was based on speed. Patino is a top 20 prospect with insane stuff. Him alone is worth more than the A’s return for Gray. There is no such thing as a pitcher being blocked ever. Not possible.
3 top 100 prospects is a greater return than 1 top 100 prospect, top 20 or not, and change especially for a pitcher with 1 year less team control.
Again youve got tunnel vision.
Youre so uninformed about general aspects of baseball like team control, rule 5, a/aa/aaa, covid & finances, etc you arent considering when posting your ridiculously uneducated comments.
Theres a lot of factors youve routinely ignored in your comments. Hence the constant bad takes from you.
LMAO 2010. Dude rule 5 is not rule 10. Fail.
My comment: “and how many are currently blocked or years away from contributing”
Also my comment:
“how many were rule 5 eligible”
“How many are in a ball at time of the trade?”
Rule 5 eligible? No
Years away from contributing? Yes
Congrats you played yourself. How about reading the entire comment next time before embarassing yourself by proving my point for me. Thanks.
Done debating cause you cant keep up with getting exposed how bad you are at this. Smart move. Although little too late at this point. Youve shown you dont know another team as well as you thought. Thats all you accomplished in this thread really.
I’m not sure what your point is. You wrote “0 top 100 prospects for Clevinger”, and then listed two fairly recent top-100 prospects he was traded for.
Nah I just don’t feel the need o keep scrolling back with a Padres homer. Of course players recently drafted are years away lmao. The post that started this was me saying their model of constantly trading recent draft picks is not sustainable. It’s all good you gotta get ready for the Padres World Series game today. Wonder how many big brother will win by today. Hold on my phone is buzzing. Preller just offered the rights to his 2021 2nd round pick for a sandwich.
Who was “fairly recent”
Quantril fell out of top 100 rankings
Naylor wasnt considered a top 100 prospect for 2 something years
At time of trade no one was top 100
Lmao. Said youre done debating and you came right back. Epic fail. Hold the L.
Last time cal quantril was a top 100 prospect was 2017. Ranked #97 end of 2017 according to a mlb.com article
Isnt on 2018 2019 2020 top 100
Josh Naylor isnt on 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020 lists. Not sure if he was in 2016
Cantillo and Arias never appeared on top 100 lists that I can see.
“Fairly recent” isnt all that recent.
I Beg To Differ2 hours ago
Who was “fairly recent”
Quantril fell out of top 100 rankings
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Quantrill fell off because everyone falls off after they lose their eligibility. Verdugo was no longer ranked when the RS traded for him.
I Beg To Differ2 hours ago
Last time cal quantril was a top 100 prospect was 2017. Ranked #97
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At the end of 2017/pre-2018, Quantrill was ranked #52 by BA, #40 by MLB, and #48 by BP.
Youre right i was looking at pre 2017 rankings which he was ranked #97
In 2018 quantril fell off the list completely.
Mid/end of season rankings
m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=prospects
Wasnt on the list in 2019
Pre 2019
mlb.com/news/mlb-s-top-100-prospects-list-for-2019…
Mid/end of season rankings
mlb.com/news/top-100-prospect-list-2019-midseason-…
Wasnt on the list pre 2020
mlb.com/news/mlb-top-100-prospects-list-for-2020
So last time quantril was a top 100 prospect was pre 2018. So 2.5 years before he was traded.
I posted a comment with links awaiting moderation.
But
Mid season 2018 quantril fell off the list
Quantril wasnt on the list pre 2019 or mid 2019
Quantril wasnt on the list pre 2020
So laat time he was a top 100 prospect according to mlb dot com was 2.5 years before he was traded.
And whos the other fairly recent top 100 you mentioned before? You said 2 fairly recent top 100 prospects.
I dont have access to ba lists.
Youre right about the rankings. Article i read was from december 2018 but i missed that it was talking about pre 2017 rankings.
“Epic fail” was Preller when he had the chance to trade for Mookie Betts and passed. Dude trades for everyone that moves but wasn’t willing to give up pieces for Mookie. Another L for the Padres!
And yes. Quantril probably wouldnt be on 2020 pre season rankings. I assume because he started 18 games in 2019, but im not 100% sure on that disqualifying him from prospect rankings. If theres an article outlining how a prospect loses eligibility id be interested in reading it if you know one. Im always interested in learning more.
Lmao
Amk says hes done debating
Comes back after tapping out
Comes back again
This would be really funny if it wasnt so sad and pathetic that im living rent free in his head.
Bad takes
Bad trolling
Are you good at anything amk? So far the answer is no.
You think Dustin Fowler, Jorge Mateo and James Kaprelian is more than Luis Patino, Cole Wilcox, Blake Hunt and Francisco Mejia. You don’t have any right to call anyone bad with that take.
I love it amk. You were thinking about me the entire game and made sure to come back a second time lmao. Love it. Simply amazing i upset you that much you waited 4 hours lmao.
Kaprelian Mateo Fowler for 2-2.5 years of Gray
Patino Wilcox Mejia Hunt for 3 years of Snell
Once again posting another bad take proving you have 0 understanding of a simple baseball concept: team control.
You must be 13 years old because the majority of your posts are insults and corny sayings like “rent free” and “epic fail”. Team control has nothing to do with it. Snell only had 4 more months of team control than Gray. They both would be available for 3 potential postseasons after the trades. Gotta love someone who keeps telling others they don’t know what they are talking about while getting facts wrong.
Lmao as you toss out insults in your comments.
Now you suddenly care about insults in comments?
This could have been avoided had you stuck to your original statement of youre done debating.
You willingly came back twice because I got under your skin. 4 hours later.
Amk: I’m done debating derangement.
Also amk: Nah I just don’t feel the need o keep scrolling back with a Padres homer
Amk 4 hours later…still here….still debating LMAO
Padres lose!
Amk: I’m done debating derangement.
Also amk: Nah I just don’t feel the need o keep scrolling back with a Padres homer
Amk 5 hours later…still here….still debating….stil posting LMAO.
Im living rent free in your head son. Boy im going to buy you a cape so you can go from mad to super mad. I love it. You keep coming back for more you must love the abuse.
Hedges has a lifetime BA of 196. Since the trade he’s hit 144. I feel for the Indians
@ BeforeMcCourt
You seem to have the minority opinion.
It’s definitely a minority opinion. But that doesn’t mean it’s wrong, it means that public perception could be wrong (it so often is). We’ll see. I agree with amk1920’s take, but still think the Pods have built a pretty good win-now team.
(whispers)
It’s a dodgers fan’s take. We should really expect nothing else, @Hudson.
Dodger fans seem obsessed with south-facing rear view mirror.
A+
Love him or hate him, Preller has done a Hell of a job these last few years. The Dodgers have one of the better rosters I’ve seen in a long time, but the Padres can legitimately compete with them for years to come now, due to the brilliant rebuild Preller has pulled off.
A+ til tatis extension
Not sure about that, @bot.
Look.
If you are going to play blackjack at the Big Boy’s table ya gotta pony up. It’s a gamble for sure. But if they hit they’ll be cashing in. Just like at the high stakes table.
Gamble or not, I liked it.
But then, on the occasions that I go to the casino you’ll find me playing at the high stakes table.
I respect everyone’s opinion(s)… but 3% said “F”? I’m obviously a Friar fan but F’s? Anyone who voted D or F care to explain? We lost one solid prospect whilst upgrading in every sense of the word…
@Gwynning. I hear Dean Spanos was up all night hitting the F button over and over.