The Brewers and Braves have lined up on a rare, early-season trade involving three players on the teams’ respective 40-man rosters. The Brewers are sending infielder Orlando Arcia to the Braves in return for right-handed relievers Patrick Weigel and Chad Sobotka, per announcements from both teams. Weigel and Sobotka will report to the Brewers’ alternate training site.
While it’s a bit surprising to see a trade of any note taking place so early in the season, Arcia’s role with the Brewers has diminished in recent years. The hope at one point was that he’d be the long-term answer at short, but Luis Urias now looks to be the preferred option at that position for the Brew Crew. Arcia has also seen some time at third base this year, but Travis Shaw made the Brewers’ Opening Day roster and is expected to serve as the primary option at the hot corner.
Arcia is off to a 1-for-11 start to his 2021 season, but he turned in perhaps the best showing of his career last summer when he slashed .260/.317/.416 through 189 plate appearances. That said, it’s somewhat disappointing for that output to represent a career-best showing for Arcia, given that he once ranked among baseball’s top 10 overall prospects at both Baseball America and MLB.com. Arcia’s glove always gave him a decent floor, but his bat simply hasn’t come around as hoped. Through 1876 plate appearances at the big league level, he’s managed just a .244/.293/.364 batting line with 42 homers and 39 steals.
The Braves obviously don’t have a need for an everyday shortstop — Dansby Swanson has the position locked down — but Arcia gives them a utility option with a solid glove. He has 4250 career innings at shortstop, so it’s not a surprise that Atlanta would be comfortable sliding him over to either second base or third base.
Ehire Adrianza had been filling that role with the club, although there’s some uncertainty surrounding his status at the moment. Adrianza left the club to tend to a personal matter recently, and he was reportedly in the process of going through intake testing to return to the club. David O’Brien of The Athletic tweets that Adrianza is expected to return to the club by this weekend.
Arcia joins Adrianza, Johan Camargo and Pablo Sandoval as utility options off the bench for skipper Brian Snitker, although the Braves can’t carry that many backup infielders simultaneously. Both Arcia and Camargo have a minor league option remaining. Arcia is the more expensive of the two, with a $2MM salary to Camargo’s $1.36MM, and it would stand to reason that if the Braves are giving up some pitching to acquire him, he’d get the nod. At some point, the acquisition of Arcia could place the roster spot of one of the other backup infielders in jeopardy.
Depending on how things play out for Arcia in Atlanta, he could be an option for them not only in 2021 but in 2022. He currently has four-plus years of big league service, which means he’ll be controllable through the 2022 season via arbitration.
In exchange for Arcia, the Brewers will pick up a pair of optionable relievers — one of whom once rated as one of the better arms in a pitching-rich Braves system. The 26-year-old Weigel ranked ninth among Braves farmhands on Baseball America’s list back in 2017 and still checked in 14th this past offseason.
His career has been slowed by 2018 Tommy John surgery, but Weigel’s 2019 return from that procedure created some optimism. In 79 innings split between Double-A and Triple-A, the righty worked to a 2.73 ERA — albeit with less-encouraging strikeout and walk rates (21.6 percent and 12.5 percent, respectively). Weigel pitched in just one game with Atlanta last year, allowing a pair of runs in two-thirds of an inning. That’s his lone MLB appearance to date.
Sobotka, 27, has displayed a knack for missing bats but has also battled control issues in parts of three seasons with the Braves. The righty boasts a fastball that averages better than 96 mph and a career 28.8 percent strikeout rate through 47 big league innings, but he’s also walked 14.2 percent of his opponents and plunked three more.
The trade gives the Brewers some flexibility on the pitching staff in a season where most teams figure to need it more than ever before, but it also closes the book on one of the organization’s most promising farmhands in recent memory. They’ll now turn the reins over to Urias, a former top prospect himself, in hopes of better results. While Urias himself hasn’t had any real big league success yet, he’s more than three years younger than Arcia and has a vastly better track record in Triple-A, where he’s put together a .305/.403/.511 line in 867 plate appearances.
MLB Network’s Jon Heyman first reported that the Brewers were in talks to trade Arcia. FanSided’s Robert Murray reported that a deal with an unknown club had been reached. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reported that the Braves were acquiring Arcia, and MLB.com’s Mark Bowman reported that Weigel and Sobotka were headed to the Brewers.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Cool? Gives them depth was never that good. A 2017 year would be nice for them but I doubt it
Prospectnvstr
I’d take last year’s stats projected for a full season as a success. He had a .260 avg w 16 of his 45 hits were xbh (10 2B, 1 3B, 5 HR) w a decent 14/32 BB/K ratio.Hes only 26, so there’s some more upside potential as well.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
Seems like a overpay to me on the Braves end. If this means the end of Camargo it might be worth it. Braves aren’t going to have many prospects left soon.
The Infinity Gauntlet
Weigel & Sobotka were both getting up there in age. The Braves didn’t trade them when the value was high & were looking to trade them away for whatever they could get.
This is bad news for Camargo. The Braves have options with backup infielders (including an all star MLB 2nd baseman). This trade is for a backup that can cover multiple IF positions like SS. That gives Camargo the boot.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Huh? This is me, scratching my head.
The Baseball Fan
I think they have plenty of depth by now. But besides that sure I guess
TitletownMatt
He’s headed to Atlanta.
bravesfan
Curious what the Braves will do with him…. bench bat upgrade? What did we give up?
bravesfan
Lord, giving up on weigel …. hate to see that but he was kinda block at ATL. Glad to see chad go. Has the stuff but struggles to put it together
its_happening
Packaged for Arcia must be a letdown. He could’ve been packaged for something better four months ago, even over a year ago.
Jmachine4
Definately not cracking the starting lineup, so yes bench utility player. Adrianza has something going on, looks like they may be giving up on Camargo.
DarkSide830
interesting timing. Camargo part of the deal?
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Maybe, or it could just be for cash and a PTBNL. If we had trading draft picks which I hope they have soon he could be traded for a late round pick. But knowing Manfred that won’t happen
DarkSide830
idk you can just deal a recent draft pick if you want to effectively trade draft picks.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
True, I just want trading picks.
clrrogers
That’s not the same thing. The ability to trade future picks is what I believe he was referring to.
GarryHarris
I was thinking the same thing. The Braves seem to have given up on Johan Camargo and I assume he’s on the trading block.
Camargo to CIN?
Neither Weigel or Sobotka are MLB pitchers
Deadguy
The Reds have been raking with Eugenio Suarez at SS and Castellanos at 3rd. Unless someone gets hurt I don’t feel Cincinnati needing to deal for a SS. Maybe for depth.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Somewhat surprised Atlanta is trading for him but I guess it makes some sense. If Dansby goes down, they really don’t have an every-day replacement for him but I’m not sure Arcia is an everyday option himself. Who knows, maybe he’s another guy who just needs a change of scenery to get back on track. Nick Pivetta sure looks good after getting out of Philly!
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Yes Pivetta does look good and even Steven MATZ had a good game. I guess pitchers don’t like the NL East
DarkSide830
Knowing Pivetta i wouldnt expect it to last
Nigel Mckenzie
Pivetta is dust
RunDMC
SS Braden Shewmake is their top-5 rated prospect according to many outlets. I’d think he’d be the in-house replacement to Swanson, though if you can hit and play SS, you can play anywhere.
SoCalBrave
Shewmake isn’t ready to step in if Swanson gets hurt.
I think this move shows that the Braves don’t think that Camargo or Adrianza can play SS
VonPurpleHayes
I mean Pivetta pitched 5 innings. It was a solid outing, but even those 5 innings weren’t easy. I expect the real Pivetta to show up soon, but at the same time, I hope he does really well. He couldn’t pitch in Philadelphia despite given every opportunity. As a Phils fan, I hold no ill-well. I also don’t regret the Phillies giving up in him. Sometimes pitchers need a new home.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Well put, Von. Nick Pivetta was always a heartbreaker. He’d often be cruising through 4 or 5 innings; and then a bloop hit, a walk on a full count, and multiple extra base hits would have him done for the day at 90-100 pitches. It was hard to watch. I hope he’s figuring it out in Boston, because he has talent.
VonPurpleHayes
Lol. ill-will. Sorry about the typo. ill-well sounds like I wish him harm.
James A.
More than likely they probably just gave them cash
Bunt Beats The Shift
This could be due to Adrianza’s departure. Maybe he isn’t coming back. This makes tons of sense.
noraj9
This was my first thought.
birdsfan415
he got his citizenship a few days ago, should be back
RunDMC
He’s on the Covid list, isn’t he?
brandons-3
Being on the COVID list doesn’t mean you have a COVID or even a scare, just that you’re at risk for exposure. Because he left the team due to him receiving his citizenship, he has to clear the protocols before he can rejoin the team.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
Good to see people actually trying to get a US citizenship. I worked with a guy recently who was from Jamaica he’s been here over 10 years got married here fathered several kids here. Hasn’t even tried for a citizenship.
noraj9
I must have missed the citizenship piece. Nice!
expos_back_by_2025
Bye bye Panda! Arcia will have to learn 2B an 3B ASAP
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Panda has driven in have of their runs lol
DarkSide830
he played 3B in ST
myaccount
He is a very good defensive SS, he should have no trouble at 2B or 3B.
lee deyampert
Panda here to stay
TradeAcuna
I want to be the first to publicly say goodbye to Swanson. As the second-best hitter on the Braves (behind Freeman), you will be missed. Instead of hitting on top, the Braves terrible manager keeps putting you where you dont belong. Maybe now that you are gone, you will likely see postseason success that will never happen again in Atlanta.
As for Arcia, he will fit right in with Pache and a crop of overrated prospects that the Braves have/had.
mlb1225
You really don’t think the Braves have any other guy who can put up an OPS+ of at least 72 or OPS of .658? That’s saying that, aside from Dansby Swanson and Freddie Freeman, all the rest of the Braves hitters are as bad as Chris Davis (69 OPS+, .626 OPS in 2017-2019). Also, I don’t see how this affects Swanson. This is affects guys like Camargo and Adrianza. Not Dansby.
TommyHawkBraves
You think Swanson was in the Arcia deal? They’re just upgrading their bench.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Are you a Brave fan? And why would Swanson be traded for Arcia at least Swanson can swing it a little
DarkSide830
i think he might be that MadBumNLCS guy
Cohn Joppolella
He is; most of his comments are just negative garbage.
VonPurpleHayes
@DarkSide830 This explains so much. And I apologize to Braves fandom. I thought you guys were all being super negative after 1 series, but now I see it’s just the same guy.
TradeAcuna
What are you talking about? I haven’t used the Mad Bum name since 2019 (I change usernames, not accounts). This is my main and only account. It is ok if other people can look beyond the rainbows and unicorns mentality.
KCJ
Apparently “BravesAbsentGagReflex” is yet another one of the many commenters on this site who think they have crystal balls. So sure of themselves…just never right. I call them ignorant narcissists. Total negative garbage…must be a lot of fun to live in that world. I guess he’s at least finally getting some attention from someone
John Smoke
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Joeyg2033
Dude, Swanson couldn’t hit the ocean if he fell out of a boat. He is adequate at short, but a liability at the plate. No way we extend him. Really sad to be 1/1 overall pick and stink. Then the 2nd overall pick in Bregman is a perennial AS… Smh.
Hammerin' Hank
2nd best hitter on the team? Not even close
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
2nd best hitter Camargo?
amk1920
Careful. Over attached Braves fans will swear that Swanson is due for a breakout one of these years.
MetsFan22
Updated standing predictions…
Mets
Phillies
Braves
Nats
Marlins
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Why are you posting that here. And major flaws here the Nats and Phils are undefeated so they should be at the top lol. Quick question what was your reaction of the first game. For me Degrom dominating but bullpen problems. Quick overreaction for me
MetsFan22
I don’t care about last night. It was one L. I still don’t think the Phillies are better than the Mets.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
Yeah Ik and the Mets are better
MetsFan22
Please make the Braves start 0-6 lol
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
We will try! Our roster right now is better than ever!
KCJ
MetsFan22 –
Of course you don’t. Nobody is surprised by that
RunDMC
How much more will the Mess need to spend to get a decent bullpen that May not implode? Another deGem squandered.
jdgoat
The Mets is the Mets bruh. 33 losses in games Degrom has a no decision since 2018. 1.76 ERA in those games. Somebody please save him.
Bart Harley Jarvis
jdgoat,
That’s an incredible (and embarrassing) statistic. Any idea how many of those 33 losses were blown leads vs. tied games when deGrom left the game?
VonPurpleHayes
@jdgoat My theory is that deGrom is so good that even seeing his pitches makes hitters better against lesser pitchers. After facing deGrom for three at bats, anyone else coming out of that pen will look like they’re throwing beach balls. deGrom is unbelievable. Everyone else is human. This is the only thing that can possibly explain deGrom’s poor W/L record.
getrealgone2
Yeah Mets looked great last night….clown
MetsFan22
One game? Good job analyst. Clown
KCJ
MetsFan22 –
If anyone should be calling someone else a clown, you’re not the guy
JAMES JACOBSEN
Bye Bye Puke and Tucker
schellis 2
Likely it will just be for org filler. Guys like Arcia are a dime a dozen.
kripes-brewers
Arica is a little hot/cold with the bat, but his glove, arm and range are phenomenal. He just never put it all together yet. Seems like he’s always guessing at the plate – goes up there looking for one certain pitch, closes his eyes and swings. He has good speed but made a lot of base-running errors in his first years so I think everyone kinda told him to stop.
citizen
This trade makes no sense as the braves have sandoval & carmargo off the bench for 3b/1b and kipnis in the minors for depth.
TommyHawkBraves
Who do they have if Swanson gets hurt?
RunDMC
Adrianza when not on the Covid list. Camargo in a pinch. Shewmake long-term.
myaccount
Sandoval, Camargo, and Kipnis all have something in common… they can’t play SS. Arica, on the other hand, can.
KCJ
I live in the Milwaukee area and have been watching Arcia since he came up. He’s solid with the glove and should make a real good utility infielder. He shows glimpses of hitting ability, but I think he gets distracted by making sure his hair looks pretty lol. Seriously though, he’s someone who will help your team as long as you aren’t counting on his bat to carry you. Kinda disappointed the Brewers traded him, as Urias has shown nothing to indicate he can hit major league pitching.
SharksFan91
Nice trade for Atlanta! Bet the Braves have a better record than the Brewers at the end of the season.
Another one of dumba*s Stearns/Counsell trades. Arcia is a better player than Urias period. Unfortunately for Arcia, Stearns wasn’t going to trade Urias because then he would have nothing to show for trading away a Gold Glove CF (Grisham). Stearns is OVERRATED!
So instead, Stearns makes Arcia look expendable by bringing back Shaw, Vogelbach, and keeping Urias.
2id
You clearly don’t follow the Brewers if you think Arcia wasn’t expendable or if you think he’s better than Urias, especially since we have such a small sample size for Urias. Once Arcia became a defensive liability with the glove it was time to cut him loose. Outside of the 2018 postseason Arcia has done nothing with the bat.
SharksFan91
Who clearly doesn’t follow the Brewers? Arcia is by no means a “defensive liability with the glove” due to he has an exceptional arm, glove, and range. Basically, Arcia & Urias are the same type of players. However, Arcia’s enthusiasm is a plus on and off the field.
I’m a former season ticket holder and have been following the Brewers for many years longer than Stearns has been alive. However, you’re right. I’m not following the team as much as I used to do because I’m also paying less attention to the current version/era of MLB.
The trade for Urias was a bonehead trade by Stearns/Counsell. The problem is Stearns is one of those guys that will never admit he made a mistake. Along with he’s the type who will do everything he can to make himself look like he’s the smartest guy in the room.
It was a good trade for the Braves imho. We’ll see about the Arcia versus Urias results in a year or two.
John Smoke
Makes perfect sense. They just improved their bench.
TommyHawkBraves
I’ll guess Sobotka and Newcomb
TommyHawkBraves
So close!
Prospectnvstr
You’re half right. Good job. I was thinking Newcomb and a flyer on a distant prospect.
Mrtwotone
Wow. Kinda surprising. Anything is better them Camargo I guess but isn’t yolmer Sanchez the same thing?
CluHaywood
Kinda blows my mind how a gold glove 2nd baseman who can absolutely play SS can’t seem to find a job around the league.
TradeAcuna
Patrick Weigel and Chad Sobotka?
Why not Ynoa and Jackson?
Mrtwotone
Nobody wants the dumpster fire Luke Jackson
TradeAcuna
other than a dumpster fire organization like the Braves.
Cohn Joppolella
Too bad they didn’t include Acuna as part of the deal.
TradeAcuna
when the Braves are a perennial bottom team in the division soon, he will be don’t worry.
Mrtwotone
Might as well throw in Ian anderson and Drew Waters while we’re at it
TradeAcuna
Nah I love Ian. He can stay)
KCJ
BravesAbsentGagReflex –
Man I just gotta get a hold of that crystal ball you got. How about giving me winning lotto numbers and Super Bowl champs for the next 5 years? It seems that you know EVERYTHING, and are so very confident in yourself
TradeAcuna
I don’t need a crystal ball to predict failure. Clearly, you people not catching on to them choking in the postseason.
KCJ
The only failure you can truly predict is the failure in your own life, and it looks like you’ve got that handled
TradeAcuna
To resort to insults also means that your life must be a failure too. Seems like you got that handled as well.
It is ok. You are probably upset the Braves will not win a game for another few days.
KCJ
Ian Theodore Fathemson –
So this guy repeatedly labels players and teams failures and losers throughout this entire thread and makes nonsensical, oocky, arrogant comments time and time again, but you get your feathers ruffled when I suggest that his actions suggest the he himself is a failure? Brilliant logic. You must be his father. And for your information, I could care less if the Braves win another game this week or this year….not my team.
TradeAcuna
you need to calm down. Why so angry? Why “could” you careless?
Cohn Joppolella
How will they get to the NLCS without MadBum???
TradeAcuna
Simple. By not making the postseason at all…which is very likely.
HalosHeavenJJ
I remember being amazed at Arcia in Spring Training about five years ago. Quick hands, quick bat, he crushed a ball way out of Maryvale.
Like most scouts I thought the Brewers had something special in him.
mikeyst13
Physically he’s got some special tools, mentally he can’t get out of his own way. Goes back to his last year in AAA where he drastically underperformed cause he was mad he wasn’t getting a call up and that kind of mentality has haunted him through his career. They’ve focused on trying to get him to be more patient and under control at the plate and when he does he strings together some good games. Then he gets cocky, starts waggling the bat and taking huge swings at everything and will hit .100 with 15 Ks for the next week or 2 til they sit him on the bench and get him to settle back down. Same on defense. Solid glove and will make the great play but way too commonly boots the easy one or fires off an errant throw when he’s got all the time in the world cause he tends not to focus on those.
HalosHeavenJJ
Interesting take. Admittedly I don’t watch the Brewers day to day.
Crazy how so often the things you can’t see from the stands determine a career. Sitting in Maryvale that day everyone in attendance would’ve assumed future All Star.
ItsStillMillerPark
Wildly inconsistent and Urias is basically the same kind of player with more years of control.
kripes-brewers
Agreed on Urias. I guess they just picked the guy with more years of control in this case. Maybe if Counsell sets a consistent batting order with Hiura hitting 6th or later they can get on track.
Always drives me crazy that these guys all look like they’re swinging for the fences with the exception of Narvaez who actually hit away from the shift the other night with a 67 mph grounder. The objective is to make solid contact and get on base to let the next guy bat you around. Seems easier than it is, but man it sure is exhausting for a fan to watch these at bats.
KCJ
I think Hiura needs to either go see an eye doctor or take a demotion to Triple-A. The guy just completely lost the ability to hit the ball. He’s been nothing short of horrible since the start of last year, and has struck out in nearly 60% of his at bats this year. It’s looking like he will easily smash the all-time strikeout record if he continues to get full-time at bats. I have no confidence that he’s ever going to rebound, either. I’ve never seen a guy go from such a cant-miss project with success in the big leagues to literally one of the worst players in the entire sport in such a short time.
Yelich is really starting to get me worried too….he looks even worse that he did last year. I can’t believe the Brewers haven’t changed hitting coaches yet!
kripes-brewers
I’m not opposed to sending Hiura down if nothing more than to send a message. He’s a contact hitter – stop worrying about hitting a homer every time! Agreed on hitting coaches, but it sure seems like the leadership wants a focus on homers vs hits. The approach hasn’t changed in a decade!
marrtho
This is a terrible take. His problems are not mental at all. He has a great attitude and personality, he’s just never been able to consistently put it all together. It happens. I can’t believe you took the time to spout this absolute nonsense.
mikeyst13
The front office themselves have repeatedly called out his mental approach including when they sent him down a couple years ago to get his head right. Just because he’s got a great personality and energy doesn’t mean that he’s always focused on the field. It’s a recurring problem that has been called out on numerous occasions and is clearly visible if you watch him day in and day out. But I guess since you say it’s nonsense none of that is relevant….
enricopallazzo
mikeyst13’s take is pretty accurate, as a local Brewer fan who watches fairly intently, this is also what I’ve seen. He is what he is, but maybe a change of scenery will spark something. Good guy, fun to watch but maddeningly frustrating.
2id
Spot on take. Just when it seemed like he was going to take the next step forward (remember his 2018 postseason) he takes two back. So maddening
fathead0507
Finally rid of Sobotka!!
JAMES JACOBSEN
Too bad we couldnt send Puke Jackson with the others.
solaris602
And yet the Reds, who NEED a SS, are nowhere in sight.
Luc (Soto 3rd best in the game)
One, Arcia is not a good starting SS. Two, India is playing well at 3rd so its ok that Geno is at SS
HalosHeavenJJ
Good call. Arcia has struggled in Milwaukee but might do better with a change of scenery and guaranteed playing time.
then again, the Reds have seen and scouted him a ton and are nowhere in sight, so that might tell you what the think of him.
ItsStillMillerPark
4 games in and we already selling….
*cracks open beer at work*
well always next year
myaccount
I don’t think that’s true at all. While I believe Arcia has gone from overrated to underrated, he still isn’t very impactful. Brewers now have more pitching depth and can give Urias a long look at SS. Plenty of time between now and the trade deadline to make an upgrade if he doesn’t prove to be the long-term answer. Brewers won’t fall out of the hunt in the NL Central.
Prospectnvstr
I think Arcia is underrated as well. I see him as a slightly above average player offensively and defensively who will have a long career. Similarly to Markakis w more doubles and less HR’s.
Dan Rogers
More doubles? Ha…ok
bennyhaha
WHAT? Similar to Markakis? In what way? How is Arica underrated? He’s junk. I feel like I’m on crazy pills reading this thread.
KCJ
Myaccount –
In my opinion, it doesn’t matter what Urias or anyone else does unless Hiura and Yelich suddenly remember how to make contact. Without those two, that’s a pathetic lineup and Woodruff/Burnes could lost a lot of 1-0 and 2-0 games because of it.
Captain-Judge99
No way the Brewers were going to trade Arcia within the division. Why would of they done that?
TradeAcuna
I do find it funny how they mention Luis Urias as a current replacement for the Brewers, yet he is equally as bad as Arcia.
Brew Crew should have asked for Carmago for a trifecta. He needs to be Carmagone from Atlanta!
Mrtwotone
Not gonna lie, the carmagone bit made me chuckle. Urias has potential though.
TradeAcuna
I have to admit something too, I actually thought his name was Carmago. I’ve been calling him by the wrong name since his debut smh….
JobuKnows
Consistent ABs as the starting SS vs. utility/bench role…give the younger Urias a full season as the full time SS before comparing the two.
dabrewcrew
Goodbye
Fan1234556545
That Leaves The Braves with only 39 players on the 40-Man roster….
What will they do will that open roster spot?
bhambrave
Does this open a spot on the 40-man? If so, could Shane Green be coming back to Atlanta?
mrperkins
So what happened to Comargo? He had a great year in 18. Did he put on weight? Someone find out he can’t hit a certain pitch? Injury? His batting line was nice, with a pretty decent k/bb rate for young guy.
UGA_Steve
In reality, 2018 was way over his ability level given his minor league track record. The hope was maybe he was just better at hitting major league pitchers due to them being around the plate more. He was never really viewed as MLB starter level player until that crazy breakout. So most people thought he would regress, but all Braves fans hoped he wouldn’t.
From my very non-professional review, he seems to try to cheat on his swing, probably to catch up with fastballs. That, plus bad selection gets him out and over most offspeed stuff, causing him to hit weak grounders consistently. His swing now reminds me of watching Ryan Langerhans and knowing he had no chance .. or Nate McLouth after his injury. Just not a realistic MLB hitter.
Camargo’s glove going downhill so quickly is one thing I can’t figure out. He had ok range, but not great, but most of the stuff he got to he jut didn’t miss. With regressed hitting and fielding he really should not be getting AB’s.
cdav45
I’m surprised that the Braves didn’t make a deal for Amed Rosario. I’d rather have him everyday of the week and twice on Sunday of Arcia.
CNichols
That’s a completely different level of acquisition though because Rosario is a serviceable starter and Arcia is basically just depth.
24TheKid
Rosario would rightfully cost a lot to acquire, too much to be worth it for Atlanta imo.
Rsox
Acquiring Arcia and recently signing Yolmer Sanchez. Braves are stocking up on middle Infielders
UGA_Steve
First reaction was .. why? Then I realized we had been waiting on Sobotka for years and even thought Weigel looked ok in 2019 we have so many pitchers younger with higher ceilings. If they didn’t make the team this year then why keep them on the 40 and block more important pieces.
So, even though I don’t think Arcia is much, I like the extra 40-man slot enough to call this a decent trade for the Braves. I also think it’s a win for the Brewers. One of those trades that actually help both clubs in some way.
SharksFan91
Good job DS! Who’s on the next flight out of Milwaukee? Cain, Garcia, Peralta? Then you can bring in some more of your favorite stalwart players like Shaw, Smoak, Pederson, Gyrko, Healy, or Holt!
As a longtime Brewer fan, if there’s a time in the future where you’re offered another job. Please take it!!
2id
Good grief. Stop. You’re making Brewers fans look dumb.
SharksFan91
Apparently you know everything and you’re a fan of Stearns/Counsell along with Shaw, Smoak, Gyrko, etc.?
I’m not a fan of that list of players, manager and an executive! There are reasons the Brewers have only made the WS once and the playoffs seven times in 51 years. Plus it’s usually the same M.O. season after season in Milwaukee.
You have your opinion, I have mine.
giannisandyelich123
We traded a mediocre hitting shortstop who makes great plays but also is a league leader in errors every year. Good riddance. And Stearns take another job. Life long Brewers fan. When was the last time the Brewers made the playoffs 3 strait years. Cain is overpaid an Peralta is nothing special most of the time. Sharks fan you don’t know baseball. Stick to hockey lol
Mickey7
Arcia has zero plate discipline, people in Atlanta will notice that soon enough. Cain has had one good year in MKE so far, part of the reason they brought in Jackie Bradley. Peralta has improved every year he has been in the big leagues, would not give up on him. GM has done a good job based on what he has had to work with.
SharksFan91
Stearns creates “what he has had to work with” correct?
I believe Stearns is overrated and has created more dumb transactions than good ones.
Yet, he somehow is often regarded as some kind of “genius” simply because he acquired Yelich & Cain in the same off-season. I agree those two were excellent acquisitions for the Brewers. However and since then (prior to 20-21)?
I believe the main problem in Milwaukee is Stearns, most of the coaching staff, and a lack of continuity in players and for players.
Of course, I could be wrong?
2id
Speaking of Peralta, did you see last night how he had the Cubs lineup flailing away for five innings? Nothing special though.
SharksFan91
Please let me know when Arcia was the “league leader in errors”? Or even in the top 5?
3 straight years of playoffs? Losing record last year. 8 of 15 NL teams made the ’20 playoffs. Hardly anything to brag about. Then let’s throw in ONE WS appearance and 7 playoff seasons out of 51 years. Plus usually in the top half of MLB home attendance since Miller Park was built.
My previous main point was Stearns/Counsell keep getting rid of a certain type of player more often than not.
I’m also a “lifelong Brewer fan” and also a former ticketholder. That doesn’t mean I have to buy into what Stearns/Counsell is trying to sell me!
Perhaps you should stick to hoops giannisandyelich123?
Cult of Dickie Thon
Arcia is a glorified utility infielder who happened to finally hit a bit last year. Highly doubt he repeats and guys (no-hit, good glove) with his numbers are a dime a dozen every offseason.
Braves could use an upgrade over Camargo but I wouldn’t trade useful excess pitching this early in the season either for a backup utility infielder with limited upside.