TODAY: Morejón has been placed on the 10-day injured list with a left forearm strain. The Padres recalled righty Nabil Crismatt from the alternate training site to take Morejon’s spot on the active roster.
APRIL 11: Adrián Morejón left his start against the Rangers this afternoon in the first inning. The young left-hander has a forearm/elbow strain in his throwing arm, the Padres later told reporters (including Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune).
That’s an ominous sounding diagnosis, as forearm strains are often a precursor to Tommy John surgery. There’s no indication at this point Morejón will need to undergo that (or any other) procedure, but it seems he’ll require an injured list stint at the very least. Morejón, who broke into the majors as a swingman over the past two years, began this season as San Diego’s fifth starter.
While Morejón has only managed a 6.03 ERA over his first 31.1 MLB innings, a deeper look shows plenty more promise. The former high-profile international signee has been one of the game’s top prospects over the last four years, entering the season as Baseball America’s #75 overall farmhand. While Morejón has given up far too many home runs in his brief big league time, he’s also demonstrated an ability to miss bats and command the strike zone. His 26.1% strikeout rate, 12% swinging strike rate and 5.8% walk percentage are all better than league average, no small feat for a player who just turned 22 years old.
Should Morejón miss time, the Friars could turn to a handful of other young arms in his rotation spot until Dinelson Lamet is ready to return from injury. Top prospect MacKenzie Gore is widely expected to debut at some point in 2021, while former top ten pick Ryan Weathers already made his MLB debut and has been working out of the bullpen this year. Jordan Humphreys, whom the Padres claimed off waivers last month, is among the other starting pitcher options on the 40-man roster.
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Injuries have been crazy through the start of this season. There’s about 25 of these posts every day that someone left a game or got placed on the IL
Pitchers should expect a rough year.
Increased workload.
Less sticky stuff.
Video back in dugout.
Extra innings rules.
Morejon cannot stay healthy. It’s plagued him throughout the minors. If this is something major he may get one more shot at the rotation.
Everyone is injured. This sure is fun.
Why is everyone getting hurt? They had a standard ST, right?
Theoretically while teams had a normal spring training players had an abnormal offseason in which they likely had to do most of their strength and conditioning work to get ready on their own and in (probably) many cases likely failed to do so
Weathers gets transferred into the rotation and Crismatt comes back up. Next man up.
Preller has done a great job of drafting pitchers.
I honestly root for them when they aren’t playing the Dodgers.
Impressive squad.
Hudson I think you get your wish – Crismat most likely with Weathers to rotation.
@ Longtimecoming
Even if Crismatt does come back up it will only be temporary. The Padres have I believe 4 pitchers on the IL who don’t have options left and are almost ready to go in Lamet, Johnson, Strahm and Altavilla. I would expect Strahm to come back as soon as he is healthy and give the Padres their long reliever and another LHP. But we will see.
Totall agree but have not seen anything about those guys’ timelines. If Lamet doesn’t take the start, Weathers will for 1 turn. Then Lamet moves Weathers back to pen. Strahm comes back to pen which moves Weathers either back to rotation – if Paddack is out – or to AAA to stay stretched out if Paddack corrects. A lot of dominoes that may start falling including a trade of one of those out of options guys.
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Looks like Strahm is day-to-day and Johnson is currently pitching at the alternate site.
Never a good time for an injury, but the Padres just started a 17 games in 17 days stretch on Friday. Probably the worst time for this to happen.
Weathers was already going to be in the rotation during this stretch of 17 consecutive games. Either Gore will be called up or Lamet will be hurried back.
wish the kid best of luck and hope a lil time off fixes his issues, but i’m worried that he is going to need tjs, i’ve lost count on how many articles start off as “ forearm tightness” and the next day player x is getting tjs.
Starting pitchers should see their value increase. Hopefully, he is ok.
Everybody needs to max out the injuries on your MLB The Show Sliders Setting if you want to keep it realistic
Pitcher injuries are like death and taxes.
But what are they doing differently in SD?
Their pitchers seem to get hurt more than most teams.
Luckily they have the depth to replace a rotation arm.
I think it’s mostly just pitchers throwing at high velocity – not anything special about SD. Morejon’s fastball can reach 98, and that is just a lot of stress to put on your elbow.
Have you not been paying attention to the Angels for the last ten years or so?
Didn’t the Padres just throw a no-no? I think it’s time for you to change your name.
Good call.
Angels and Orioles are on a level of their own.
Every prospect would be better off if they wouldn’t rank these kids. Morejon could never live up to the hype yet they just keep hyping him and keep hyping him.
When fans stop clicking on prospect rankings, they will stop ranking them.
I wouldn’t say that Morejon hasn’t lived up to the hype yet. Yes, his ERA is rather high, but that is mostly just bad luck in a small sample size. His pitches are excellent, and he routinely gets good strikeout and walk numbers. Without this injury, he was looking like a good middle rotation starter.
Seems we have put the cart before the horse quite a bit in SD the last couple years …..I’m not saying the talent isnt all in the fold ………It just sure would be nice to actually see it someday on a big league field
Was a big fan of Paddack a couple years ago but even he has taken some noticeable steps in the wrong direction .
SD feels more like a buncha mercenaries today than a steady well disciplined platoon that harvests internal growth year after year.
7 ~3 is a very nice start tho after a rocky beginning w the Tatis news
That’s because Preller traded away most of the prospects before they got their chance to shine
Remove – Prospects are suspects. Trading them for MLB talent is a rather smart idea. If you have 15 that people want, trading 7-10; keeping 5-8 is the idea. You won’t see WS champions consisting of 26 first, second and third year guys for a reason.
@Remove….not ? really
The purge really began this year
I hope this post doesn’t come across as pure hate on SD ; I like what Prellers doing, its just a fact you cant name 3 homegrown players contributing in a major way to SD today …
Thats why I always take prospect rankings with a grain of salt….Id much rather have a great development system like Hou/LAD than high individual rankings year to year (Hello Zach Mckinstry). But maybe thats an ode to Preller in a way, he saw that and went out and got a good/great team and said NO Mas ! I applaud that really in the end
Preller’s trades have worked out rather well so far – dumping Lauer and Urias to the Brewers was genius and the Rays wish they still had Cronenworth.
I agree Dan, and furthermore I think the bird in hand trades favor the teams making them in todays current market .
Perhaps money plays a small part in that but guys like Crone, Musgrove, Vic don’t make all that much to begin with so I’m left baffled a bit…….
I said pre-season I thought AJ was tapping a market inefficiency in the trade market and should just keep barreling thru it as long as the price was right. Thought other teams missed out on this market
@Longtimecoming every player was a prospect once. If you keep making those 4-for-1 prospect for MLB player trades you’re gonna empty the farm pretty quickly. And we can already see it happening in San Diego. Farm is now more top-heavy than elite.
It’s no accident that the last few teams to win championships all had solid homegrown cores.
@Cap & Crunch Being able to get guys over the hump into the majors is the most important step in the development process. Hell, I submit that it’s more important than all the other steps COMBINED. And Preller has not demonstrated an ability to do that.
@dan55 the Rays got Xavier Edwards though. We’ll see how that ends up looking for SD.
@ Remove – I agree with a lot of that premise (see above) – I dont think SD has a great developmental system BUT………theres more than one way to skin a cat……I think Preller made some nice pivots via trade market
Its not something they want to completely bank on moving forward, And Yes Preller should look behind the curtains in the developmental process to get it better in the future but I think he made the best of this last off-season with what he had to work with
Remove – I quit reading when you said SD didn’t have elite prospects – check the top of the top 100!
@ Long- I think he’s more saying none of Sd’s elite prospects have done much of anything in MLB, which is primarily true, and has been that way for quite some time
Cap n – maybe he is but he also criticized Presley for trading away all of the prospects. He can’t have it both ways can he? ‘Need to keep the prospects’ and ‘SD can’t develop prospect’ – just don’t work together.
Prospects can be used in more ways than one.
Building a strong Farm system and using those prospects to trade for proven major league stars is still a reason to draft and develop.
On some ways it’s even more impressive what Preller has done.
Indeed Long, that’s why I liked the pivot – And still keeping all the top guys besides Patino was fine work when all said and done
He’s built a pretty cheap/good under the radar pen as well – Pagan Melancoln Kela Pom Weathers will help win a lotta games if most stay healthy. Bullpen building is tricky, those who do it better get nice rewards, Preller deserves props here Imo as well. He stood tall behind this crew all off-season when some wanted to see some big adds/ and he directed the money to some aces, I like that approach, I think theres a plan, and thats all you can really ask
Capn you are right on with the pen. I was in the group begging for a Rosie / Yates return and I wasn’t alone! He gets a lot of props for the pen. Melancon and Kela – he looks like a genius but really to be fair, there is a lot of luck in there with health. Same for any of them – they look like smart when someone stays healthy and performs; looks like an idiot when an injury happens. Too much criticism in my opinion for “when life happens” – like FTJ and Morejon – and so so many other across the league.
Such as who?
Def Long on your last point x 10 !
Bp building is so so so tricky tho….Money doesn’t necessarily equate to results in this arena and I think Preller knew this. You just kinda gotta have faith in your crew and block out all the noise… You gotta good mix of vets, depth and youth and the roles are pretty well defined at this moment
You’ll still probably see Preller pull in one more arm for this pen by the TD ….I think they look at themselves as a pitching squad A-Z that just so happens to have a lot of fireworks on offence to play with- Im a pitching guy myself so I must say I approve begrudgingly as they are the Rival!
@Cap & Crunch no. There is only one way to skin a cat. Look at the last few WS winners. All had solid homegrown cores.
If your development team sucks you bring in coaches who know what they are doing. You don’t sell off all your prospects when they are right on the cusp.
@Longtimecoming Clearly your reading comprehension is lacking. I never said SD doesn’t have elite prospects. I said the farm in general is no longer elite. It used to be elite. Now it’s not. It’s more top heavy now. They used to have like 10+ prospects in the top 100 and their #30 prospect would have been top 10 in the weakest farm systems. Now the farm really has no one special once you get past maybe the top 8.
@Cap & Crunch, no I’m saying that the farm is no longer elite because Preller traded away almost the entire farm.
@Longtimecoming sure they do. If you don’t know how to develop prospects, you fire the minor league coaches and brinbg in guys who know what they are doing. You don’t just accept that your development team sucks and gut the farm for a bunch of hired guns.
@mrpadre no it is not! There is no point in building a top farm system if you can’t actually convert on your prospects. Preller has not shown he can do that outside of Tatis (not technically homegrown but 100% of his development was in the Padres system, Lamet and Weathers (SSS). And now that he has chosen to gut the farm in favor of a 3-year window I guess we will never know.
Again, look at the Dodgers. I hate them with every cell in my body but there’s no denying that they are the gold standard when it comes to developing talent from within. Seem to have a legitimate ROY candidate every year. THAT is how you build a winner.
Lamet, Weathers, Morejon, Paddack, Tatis, Marcano, Campusano…
Players they developed and traded are France, Torrens, Trammell, Quantrill, Naylor, Hedges, Patino…
They seem to be doing okay.
Try comparing them to other teams.
Remove – resorting to making up stuff doesn’t help your position. 10 Top 100 – really? Check what the experts say about the ranking of the farm system – they have quite a few young add insult last year if you bother to actually look.
Might add Trea Turner, Wisler, Eflin
@Hudson6 I mentioned Tatis, Lamet and Weathers. Morejon is still TBD especially with the TJ. Paddack has taken a huge step back since his rookie season and wasn’t homegrown to begin with. Marcano and Campy haven’t been anything special in the majors yet.
The players they traded prove my point. Preller can’t close on his prospects. Or isn’t even willing to try.
Wanna try again?
@Longtimecoming at their peak they had 10 prospects in the top 100 and several others who you could make a case for. Now the farm is 50 shades of meh after you get past maybe, Reggie Lawson.
Turner, Wisler and Eflin further prove my point. And the Padres honestly would have been better off releasing Eflin than trading him for Kemp.
Dodger starters drafted or signed by LA: Seager, Lux, Beauty, Bellinger, Price, Urias, Bauer, Smith, May Kershaw, Jansen.
Free agents and trades: Betts, Pollock, Taylor, Turner, Muncy, Bauer, Price, Nelson, Knebel…
Not that big of a difference.
@Hudson6 Padres impact players drafted or signed by SD: Lamet (if healthy), Weathers (TBD), Campusano (TBD)
@ Remove
You notice that they trade guys who weren’t ready for ones who were. That is what you have to do when your window opens. It doesn’t matter how many of those guys are useful in 2-5 years. Their time is now.
@Hudson6 so basically you’re the type that would have traded Trout or Kershaw as prospects
Did the Padres trade Gore, Tatis, Campusano or Abrams? No they didn’t. Why? Because these are the guys they think can become stars or at least plus major league players.
@Hudson6 well they better hope they do cuz if not it will be a serious indictment of their scouting, development or both being inept.
Of the traded players, I’d watch out for Xavier Edwards, Luis Patiño, Cole Wilcox, Cal Quantrill, Gabe Arias and Logan Allen.
So I guess the moral of the story is don’t trade with the Rays or Indians.
Arias and Quantrill? As parallels to Trout and Kershaw? Peyotebutton
@Brewer88 Why not? If a guy isn’t ready now what does it matter what he does in 3-4 years right?
@hudson
Well technically…
Paddack came up through the Marlins system and was acquired for Fernando Rodney. Trammel was drafted by the Reds and acquired by the Padres as part of the Trevor Bauer trade. The Padres didn’t really develop either of those guys.
@ Remove
Let’s look at the names you mentioned.
Edwards-if he is very lucky he may become equal to Cronenworth. MAYBE.
Patino-if he is very lucky he may become equal to Snell. MAYBE.
Arias-would be Padres #4 SS after Tatis, Kim and Abrams
Allen-bottom of the rotation starter if he is lucky.
Wilcox and Quantrill-mid rotation starters AT BEST. Nothing at all at worst.
Not exactly heartbreaking.
@Hudson6…
Edwards hasn’t made an out since Bush was in office. Trade will ultimately come to down him vs. Cronenworth.
Patiño still has a long way to go but I could easily see him putting up more WAR than Snell in 2023. And he’s not the only player the Padres gave up in that trade.
Arias could have been moved to a different position. Shortstops are the best athletes on the team and thus the easiest player to move.
Allen literally has a 2.70 ERA this season. That is “Bottom of the rotation if he’s lucky?”
Wilcox is still early in his career. Wide range of outcomes. But I’m pretty bullish on him.
Quantrill you are probably right about his ceiling, but he at least has the floor of a major league reliever. Even that would be better than the nothing the Padres got from Mike Clevinger.
Anything else you care to be wrong about today?
Prospects versus production. You used to complain how prospects were nothing until they were proven when you were going by the name MikeEmbletonSmellsBad. Now all of a sudden your position has reversed? Or could it be that you are just a Padre hater?
Also, exaggerate much? Allen has a 2.70 ERA…in 10 IP! That trade was 2 years ago and this is the first time he has even earned an extended look. Edwards hasn’t made an out since Bush!?! He is just starting AA ball for the first time this year! No experience over A+! Please.
@Hudson6 when did I ever say that? Every player was a prospect at some point or another.
Padres frankly should have never been involved in the Trevor Bauer trade at all. They got nothing out of it. So even if Allen, Reyes and Nova all bust the trade is a wash for them.
The Pham trade will ultimately come down to Edwards vs. Crone. That much is true. Edwards might have a long way to go but he’s given us no reason to doubt him so far.
@ Remove
I already told you when you said that. It was when you were going by the name MikeEmbletonSmellsBad. You have always been anti-Padres. You hated them when they were full of prospects and not major leaguers and now you hate them when they have major leaguers instead of prospects. The only thing you are consistent with is that you always think everything that Preller does is wrong. That makes your opinion easy to dismiss.
@Hudson6 No, you told me when you thought I said that. The problem is I never did say that. Every successful team, even rich ones like the Dodgers, build through prospects and the draft.
But more to the point, so far it looks as if Preller either can’t close on his prospects or isn’t even going to bother trying. And since closing on your prospects is the most important step of the development process, this is VERY bad.
@ Remove
You hated what the Padres were doing in 2019. You hated what they were doing in 2020. Now you hate what they are doing in 2021. In that time they have gone from a terrible team to one of the best teams in baseball. The only consistent thing about all those years is your hatred of everything the Padres, and Preller in particular, have done. Your opinion means nothing because it is always the same, no matter what actually happens.
@Hudson6 I wasn’t even on here in 2019 so you don’t know what I did or didn’t think of what they were doing then. As for 2020 and 2021, it is clear that Preller has abandoned his endeavors to build a sustainable contender in favor of a 3-year window. If the Padres don’t make it to the WS in the next 3 years it’s pretty certain Preller will be shown the door. I get that you like Preller but when you make a bunch of win-now moves and then don’t win anything that’s what happens.
@ Remove
Oh no! A Padres hater hates the Padres! Stop the presses!!!! This is HUGE news!
@Hudson6 not hate. Just realistic.
@ Remove/MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
I seem to remember you truly hating that Urias for Grisham trade. Said it was horrible. How is that going?
I admitted that I really liked Urias but we needed a CF. Looks like it turned out great for the Padres. Also looks like I was wrong about Urias.
Did you read that? “I was wrong about Urias”. Maybe you should learn to do the same and admit when you are wrong OftenWrongSoong/Remove (Star Trek reference).
Perhaps people will actually listen to you if you could actually admit when you make a mistake. Not being nothing but an absolute hater who disagrees with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the Padres do might help as well. Until then, buh bye!!!
What’s realistic is the Padre juggernaut. But I don’t credit Preller so much as ownership for investing in a deep farm system and tripling ML payroll over past 7 years. And it’s a longterm commitment that rankles haters.
@Hudson6 now I have no idea what you are talking about. And I don’t see how it’s relevant to the Padres having basically zero homegrown impact players on their roster.
As for Urias, I honestly don’t know why Preller didn’t trade him during his Prellerpalooza offseason. It’s clear that he never believed in the guy at any point in time. Not from the moment he was hired as GM. If you don’t believe in an inherited prospect, you trade him to fill a need. You don’t keep him around just so you can mishandle him. Mishandling prospects is a symptom of not knowing how to develop them.
Maybe people will listen to you if you try to debate the point actually being discussed rather than using the thread as an excuse to push your preposterous internet beef.
I did debate the point. You didn’t bother to listen because you are a Padre hater. Period. I have debated with you multiple times. You are very consistent. You hate everything Padres and disagree with everything they do. I can’t argue with a brick wall and it is kinda hypocritical for you to ask anyone else to stay on point when you always have the same one no matter the situation. You never change, you just always hate. Your opinion is already known. Always. On every subject. Pot, meet kettle. You hate everything Padres and will never admit to being wrong. It’s like arguing with a drunk or a crazy person. They don’t listen. You don’t listen. So what is the point?
@Hudson6 well if that’s not the pot calling the kettle black…
Now you are copying me? Pathetic!
@Hudson6 bruh that line has existed longer than you’ve even been alive
So it just happens that one minute I say it to you, you say it back to me? Sure thing Remove.
Come up with your own sayings. Copying the person you are arguing with is just sad!
@Hudson6 I literally didn’t even see that part of your comment. Too bad you used it wrong.
And as far as coming up with your own sayings, take your own advice buddy.
Sure thing Remove. Sure thing. As I said, pathetic.
@Hudson6 don’t talk about yourself that way buddy.
What are you in kindergarten? I know you are but what am I!?! Sorry, this conversation is over. I don’t argue with children.
Oh, and if I used the saying wrong then why did you parrot it back to me? Hypocrisy.
Ok buddy
Now the MLB team is elite instead of the farm being elite. Isn’t that the goal Ryan?
That would have happened organically if they had just been a bit more patient Koamalu. Also, you were crying about almost every trade Preller made in the past year and a half, even going as far as to say that Luis Patiño is better than Blake Snell NOW so I honestly don’t know what your point is here.
Preller in 7 years has yet to develop 1 homegrown player that’s contributed
He’s developed and garnered talent in the farm that have been used as trade value to bring in players that are contributing. Same end result. Patino, Urias, Wilcox, case in point. Who gives a rats patootie whether the roster is filled with homegrowns?
Remove is Ryan? That explains the nonsense.
Where is that mute button now! I admit I was wrong when I voted against it!!
Although If they trade Campusano and Abrams for Soto I might not complain.
You would need to add a heck of a lot more to that package to get Soto away from the Nats
Don’t forget Max Fields
@Longtimecoming Pads Fans is Koamalu, Outinleftfield and BobGibsonFan
@Brewer88 no it’s not the same end result. Being able to close on your prospects is the most important step in the development process. Look at all the team that have won championships in the last few years. All had solid homegrown cores. The Padres don’t.
Not sure how the development of “Seager, Lux, Beaty, Bellinger, Price, Urias, Bauer, Smith, May, Kershaw and Jansen” stack up to the Padres but think I’ll take the Dodgers on this one if that is the comparison. Plus, you leave out Turner, Taylor and Muncy who were not drafted by the Dodgers and broke into the majors with other teams but I’m sure not a coincidence in how they resurrected their careers with the Dodgers. I’ll give Preller credit for trading their top prospects for talent and going for it, as many times talent doesn’t develop the way you want to. The key in the long run is how long you can sustain. As players get traded, graduate to the Majors, etc. there is a need to replenish the talent level. Padres had the benefit of low finishes in the standings to draft very high. As their team is much improved it becomes more challenging when you draft lower.
I swear you people would have been cheering the Angels on if they traded Mike Trout in 2011 in order to “go for it.”
So you opposed the Dodgers giving up young talent for Betts even though it won them a ring.
@Brewer88 difference is the Dodgers already had a strong homegrown core and just have a few key outside additions sprinkled in as opposed to a team built almost entirely out of hired guns
Sorry – no. I just joined last fall and picked the name after Pads made the post season – this, the name. I think you can find me responding to out a few times if you care. If you don’t care – I don’t. So, responding on behalf of those named, not myself.
@remove. The Padres are one of the younger teams in the league, while also being one of the best. They’ve developed an elite farm system, and managed those assists well through draft and trades. I know you don’t like them and are trying to exploit perceived negatives, but the fact is they’re set to compete for years to come.
@Brewer88 are you kidding? Preller has managed his assets terribly. Taylor Trammell, Luis Urias, Buying high on Mike Clevinger right before TJ, etc.
The farm was elite. Now it’s not. Padres are basically looking at a 4-year window right now.
Delusional if you believe the Indians knew Clev needed TJ.. Those Tatis, Darvish, Grisham, Musgrove trades, etc.. are looking brilliant. If I were the Dodgers I’d be nervous. Like you are.
@Brewer88 I’m not convinced they didn’t know. Why else would they trade their #2 in the middle of a playoff push?
For every Tatis and Musgrove trade you throw at me I can throw five Myers, Clevinger, Nola, J. Upton, Kemp, Trammell, Mejia and Moreland trades back atcha.
I got nothing to be nervous about buddy. If only you could say the same.
Have you even bothered to check how poorly Trammell and Urias (2nd year) are performing before you talk?
@Longtimecoming uh yeah. Have you bothered to check how poorly Nola and Pham are performing before YOU talk?
Remove – have you seen how well Myers is performing (and 2020)? Oh, and Mejia while hitting a little, is in his 3rd year!
@Longtimecoming the point is the Padres got nothing out of those trades.
And as for Myers, Trea Turner has been worth 0.6 more WAR since the 2020 season started. That’s 1.4 WAR when you extrapolate it out to 162 games. And at a fraction of the cost.
@Rsox. Of course, but my point was that the elite farm system creates excellent trade value and no team understands this better than the Pads. Remove doesn’t seem to grasp this at all.
@Brewer88 obviously. And if you know how to close on your prospects it creates even better on-field value. But the Padres do not seem to understand that.
Trammel looks terrible, they rushed him and I doubt he’ll hit at ML level. France is nice but wouldn’t get past AAA on Padre depth chart. Adams is back and looking like a steal. Nola back next week, 5 or 6th best C in baseball. Note to Tootles.
What’s the difference between drafting Tatis and developing him in the minors vs trading for him and developing him in the minors? Abrams and Gore are about to be called up, homegrowns. But Preller might also trade them because they don’t have an immediate position on the big club. Who knows. We’re not GMs.
@Brewer88 Not sure how a .797 OPS qualifies as “terrible.” But frankly, the Padres should have never been involved in the Bauer trade in the first place. Trammell’s value declined precipitously in the year he was in SD.
Nola is 31 and the Mariners got him on a minor league deal two years ago. We’ll see how he looks when he gets back.
Adams has a 4.50 ERA so far as a Padre. Not sure how that constitutes a “steal.”
@Brewer88 look at all the last few WS winners. All had a bunch of productive homegrown players on the roster. It’s just a simple fact.
With Morejon and Lamet likely needing TJ, there is absolutely a position for MacKenzie Gore on the big club. And with Tatis getting injured and Kim not producing thus far (.587 OPS) there is room for Abrams as well.
After 10 games you’re studying OPS? After 2 innings your reciting 4.50 ERA?
I hope they can find a place for Abrams, he’s an elite SS prospect. He might have to fill in this year but the position is locked up for 14 years to a perennial MVP candidate. Nice situation to be in if your the Pads. They look scary good for many years to come. Haters will come to grips eventually.
@Brewer88 Hey you’re the one who’s saying that Adams “looks like a steal” after 2 innings and that Trammell “looks terrible” after 10 games.
Still a team of hired guns
Why would I be nervous? I’m a fan of the game, no particular team, and I played the game, love the game. But I get how biased fans get.
Ok circular argument I won’t try to win
Ryan – from padres message board?
so sorry you cant enjoy the new padres with their 3 or 4 year window lolololol. i will be loving pretty much every second of this window, and in the meantime Preller and his team will continue to draft, sign top international prospects, and make trades. i guess the main thing you’re forgetting- in that window Preller will continue to build the mlb team and the farm, you act like it shuts down because we finally have an mlb contender.
@Brewer88 you’d be nervous because Preller has shown that he either can’t close on his prospects or isn’t interested in trying. And I’ll take “Things that didn’t happen” for $500 on you playing the game past little league.
I had fun. Thanks for playing.
@wtylerw and then trade them for a bunch of hired guns again because he can’t close on his prospects. Apparently you learned nothing from the last time he tried that.
@Hudson6 you must not have been looking that hard then. And I love how you have to deflect to your “Ryan” nonsense because you can’t debate with facts. Are you another alt account for Pads Fans?
Lastly, what happened to “This conversation is over?”
I was not talking to you. What you say means nothing.
@Hudson6 lol you can’t talk smack about someone right in front of them and expect them not to say anything buddy. It was a nice try tho.
Loser on Jeopardy too? So you’re a wannabe Preller, I get it. But such a burden. Try to enjoy the games for a change.
@Brewer88 I enjoy the games as much as anyone buddy. Went to opening day, going again on Friday. Being a fan of team x doesn’t mean you have to agree with every (or even any) moves the GM makes. That isn’t being a fan, it’s being a homer.
@Hudson6 if you want a positive comment from me check out the thread about us acquiring Joe Musgrove
As you mentioned, sss, but it’s not just his ERA, his FIP is 5.81 over 31.1 innings.
The high FIP is because he’s given up a bunch of home runs. His pitches look amazing, and I think with more time Morejon’s numbers will get a lot better. His strikeout and walk rates are really good.
So, what you’re saying is…It’s not just his ERA that’s bad.
Morejon won a starting job by having an excellent spring. His current ERA this year is 3.86. Short sample sure, but it looks as if he may have turned a corner. Perhaps we should wait and see?
@Hudson6 hey buddy. How’s that Snell trade looking now LOL
Just fine, why? Seriously get another hobby. This is just sad! Why am I the first thing that you think about? Am I going to need a restraining order? Pathetic!
@Hudson6 it’s ok, maybe someday you’ll be able to get something right. Maybe.
Seriously, you are just waiting for a guy to have a bad game so you can run here to tell me about it and try to tease me like a child? That is a serious problem for a supposed adult!
One bad game? So what? Snell is currently pitching in mlb. Patino is not. That is value compared to zero value.
The Padres are currently the second best team in baseball. Period. How is Patino doing? That’s what I thought.
@Hudson6
1. You are the guy who lives by his computer waiting for people to reply to him on MLBTR
2. Oh so now a guy who isn’t currently playing in MLB has no value? If that is the case, why aren’t the Rays trading Wander Franco? Why aren’t the Orioles trading Adley Rutschman? Why aren’t the Tigers trading Spencer Torkelson?
3. Not sure I would call what Snell did today “value.” But hey.
@ Remove. Is this your way of enjoying the game? Why are you so depressed? But hey here’s something to brighten your day:. Yesterday recently traded Pads Renfroe, France, Trammell, Torrens, Margot, Naylor, Reyes went a combined 3 for 25. Urias is hitting .133, Trammell is up to .167, Preller is brilliant! Oh and ex-Dodger Ryu shut down the Yanks. So cheer up buddy!
@Brewer88 I’m not depressed at all buddy. But you sure seem to be.
Snell trade was still stupid. So were the Myers, Kemp, Upton, Clevinger, Nola and Trammell trades. Literally no one who isn’t a Padres homer would disagree.
So tell me Einstein, who REALLY needs to “cheer up?”
As much as I want to see Gore pitch in the big leagues, I think the proper move here is to insert Weathers into that slot until Lamet is completely ready. Lamet reportedly threw 3.2 innings and 56 pitches last time out so he’s close but not quite built up yet.
Weathers has looked great so far and it almost feels inevitable that he’s eventually going to take Paddack’s spot in the rotation. Might as well audition Weathers for a role in the rotation now. Something is clearly wrong with Paddack’s fastball and it’s amplified by him being a 2 pitch pitcher. Unless he can fix it soon they’re going to need to send him down to work on it.
Padres have made many prospect trades to strengthen their MLB team but for Pads fans they better hope the top 5-6 prospects they kept will develop into contributing regulars for this team to continue as a LT-contender. LAD, TB Rays, & Atl Braves are very adept at plugging in young players from their deep farm systems to balance out their rosters/payrolls, which allows them to be strong contenders on a consistent basis. If Pads top prospects can develop into regular players for them, that would allow them to trade some of their current big leaguers in 2-4 yrs for more prospects. This would keep their window to contend open in perpetuity. Last point-Padres won’t keep up with LAD until they begin to consistently add 2-4 strong prospects each yr to their MLB roster.
Padres has the worst arms in the outfield in MLB baseball according to reports for 2021.
I can see that. While Myers has a plus arm, Grisham’s arm is average at best and Pham has a partially torn UCL. I would still rather have these guys than Hunter Renfroe even with his cannon.