The Indians at least broached the subjection of a contract extension with AL Cy Young Award winner Shane Bieber this offseason, though Bieber told reporters (including The Athletic’s Zack Meisel and Cleveland.com’s Joe Noga) that “I haven’t really gotten into very many talks, at least in-depth. With Opening Day coming up right here, right in front of us, I think that’ll be what it is until maybe next offseason.”
There isn’t any immediate rush for the Tribe to lock up the ace right-hander, as Bieber won’t reach arbitration eligibility until next offseason, and he is under team control through the 2024 season. Since managing payroll is such an important part of Cleveland’s team-building strategy (particularly this winter), it certainly doesn’t hurt to have one of the sport’s best pitchers on a bargain price for at least the next couple of years, though Bieber’s price tag will rise considerably through the arbitration process if he keeps pitching as he did in the 2020 season.
The 25-year-old was a unanimous choice as the American League’s top hurler after a season that saw Bieber dominate in both the traditional statistics (a league-best 1.63 ERA, eight wins, and 122 strikeouts, to win the Triple Crown of pitching) and in the advanced metrics — a 2.52 SIERA, 44.1% strikeout rate, 34% strikeout-to-walk rate, and elite rates in most Statcast categories. While Bieber recorded this dream year over only 77 1/3 innings in 2020, he first established himself as a breakout star with a fourth-place finish in AL Cy Young voting in 2019.
The Indians have achieved great success in signing star players to long-term extensions early in their careers, though it’s possible they have already missed their window in locking up Bieber to a truly team-friendly deal. One side effect of the Tribe’s winter cost-cutting, however, is that they don’t have a single dollar officially committed to payroll beyond the 2021 season, so there is plenty of space to afford a hefty multi-year salary for Bieber.
As a fourth-round pick who signed for a modest $420K bonus, Bieber has yet to score any truly big paydays in his pro career, but it is perhaps worth mentioning that Cleveland renewed his contract for $679.7K in 2021 after the two sides didn’t reach common ground on the salary. Bieber explained that he decided on a renewal after discussing things with his representatives, saying the decision “just seemed what was best for me in my career going forward.” In terms of relations with the Indians front office, Bieber said there was “zero bad blood, animosity, whatever you want to call it,” and he is looking forward to the season.
Another interesting wrinkle lies in who will be discussing this extension on Bieber’s behalf, as the righty is one of the relatively few baseball clients of Rosenhaus Sports Representation. Run by football super-agent Drew Rosenhaus, the firm only expanded into representing baseball players in 2017, and Bieber represents the agency’s first opportunity to negotiate a major baseball contract.
Nothing
If he has another good season, he’d be wise to ask for a $20MM+ AAV in any extension talks with the Indians. Have some doubts they’d be willing to pay that tho.
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
He’s worth closer to, if not $30MM AAV or above
Yankee Clipper
Some doubts? Did you read what they said about paying Lindor not much over that amount? And they still have their prize 3B to sign….. They will not be able to pay him between 20 & 30 MM / annum.
Welcome to the Yankees Mr. Bieber; truth be told, you’re the only Bieber welcome in NY.
Cash to Bieber, 2025: “Oh, don’t worry, they all said that about Cole too. Yep, every single one of ‘em. Nope, don’t tell them where you dream to play yet, we will laugh at them when you don the pinstripes and brag about how indescribable it feels.”
pjmcnu
I’m sure Paxton & Gray could describe it to him.
Yankee Clipper
Lolol. Nice, I like it. But, they don’t understand it from the perspective of success. Sonny was scared, Paxton was injured, Bieber cannot be mentioned in the same sentence.
Graham_Stl
Wow, 221 strikeouts in a shortened season? That’s absurd!!!
pjmcnu
122
richt
Did a massive double—nay, quadruple take at 221 strikeouts. Had to go to B-Ref to calm down
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
221 strikeouts? Shane you are always welcome to join the bay to wear the orange and black!
Yankee Clipper
See ya later alligator!
king beas
6 years 175 million
Yankee Clipper
Which team is he traded to to get that?
StudWinfield
If he is paid the top amount to date for 1st, 2nd and 3rd year arbitration amounts he’d only be at around 4 yr for $60 million through 2024. If you gave him $30 mill for each of his first 2 FA years that’s 6 yr and $120 guaranteed and a new contract at 31 years old.
$60 mill not guaranteed and FA at 29 versus $120 mill guaranteed and FA at 31. That’s why these deals are attractive.
So what is the union ready to offer in negotiations? Because owners are not just going to cede this kind of leverage for nothing in return.
YourDreamGM
Ok Shane. Would you like to have your arbitration bought out and give us 2 team friendly options? Or would you rather hit free agency and get paid hundreds of millions? Oh really? Well that is disappointing. Hi Sue, would you please get Mr. Preller on the phone for me.
gcg27
A pitcher who really hasn’t had a big pay yet.. signing bonus etc.. security is worth something too.. have u noticed ones who waited that didn’t get to cash in due to injuries?
YourDreamGM
Well the article says they aren’t offering him anything until next off-season. So they will have to give him a few million then. It’s more about the Cheapskates not offering enough money then Bieber not willing to sign an extension. They waited too long if they wanted him for one if their type of extensions.
Michael Chaney
With the way this team has done business, it kind of feels like he won’t be there 4 years from now if he’s not extended this offseason. He obviously won’t be *quite* as good as he was last year, but another season of contending for a Cy Young and another year closer to free agency just means he’s about to get expensive.
yankees500
Indians-“Hey Shane will you take 7 years at $45 million?”
Shane Bieber-“Lol. No.”
Indians-“Well fans, we tried.”
brandenr
The Reds need to have Senzel live in a bubble. Geez
bobtillman
Oh my kingdom for a world where baseball fans are worried about THIS year, not about 2024. Indians (or whatever) fans should revel in watching Bieber in 2021, not worry about that he’ll be a Charlotte Knight three years from now. Three years from now we all might be living under the Borg. Yes, resistance IS futile.
The Indians are “in it” every year; very few misfires for a small-medium market team. They’re pretty bright folks. Have a little faith they know what they’re doing.
MOST long term deals don’t work out; spare me the Max Scherzer-s of the world. And the level of dis-incentivization is tough to quantify, but is apparent.
Let the man earn his sheckles; pay him when he does. If you can’t afford him, move along. Teams in the Indians situation, market-wise, have to make hard choices; unavoidable, nature of the beast.
OIC2021
The Indians will relocate to Nashville or Las Vegas in 2024. They’re all ready stalling about the name change trying to find the right fit. It’s all due to the fact the Progressive Field lease is up after 2023. Oh, and the Indians have ZERO long term contracts beyond this year. You all should read between the lines. Cleveland is a football town. The sports talk shows don’t even talk about the Indians. “Why I didn’t even know they still had a team in Cleveland”….remember the line from “Major League”?
ClevelandSpidersFromMars
Sadly, you are probably right. Considering the potential financial windfall in moving, the Dolenz family would be foolish not to at least consider it. Even if they have no intentions, a few leaks of the possibility might be a benefit in that Ohio politicians would fall all over themselves offering deals to keep the team.
Avory
This is utter nonsense.
If the Tribe was ever gonna move it was sometime between 1962 and 1992, not now.
Major league baseball has no interest in moving the Tribe to a city that is a viable expansion franchise and give up application fees. Besides, as bad as the baseball interest is in Cleveland, MLB doesn’t have a problem with facilities. Conditions in Tampa and Oakland are much worse across the board.
rememberthecoop
Bob, you are a wise baseball fan. I appreciate your posts.
bobtillman
I have no issue with fans worrying about short-term solutions that sacrifice a team’s future. But sometimes that’s what you do; see Chris Sale. I’m a Red Sox fan; I don’t care if Moncada and Kopech both make the HOF. Flags fly forever. And without Sale, the flag don’t fly.
It’s just this obsession, on the eve of one season, where we have to be bombarded with contract extensions, and things related to what MIGHT happen 2 years from now. And the attacks an organization like the Indians, who have proven they can navigate the small-market seas with skill, are simply unfounded.
They have and will make mistakes; who doesn’t. Again, a list of the “Great Theo Epstein Mis-Steps” would take up too much gig space. And Theo’s a legitimate HOF candidate.
Bieber’s a great talent, no doubt; in addition to all the numbers, he’s fun to watch. But he ain’t Kershaw or deGroom quite yet. A couple of more years, MAYBE.
Small-mid market teams can’t always pay for MAYBE. Nor, quite frankly, should they.
rememberthecoop
Rosenhaus is going to want to establish himself as a major player and what better way than to score a huge extension for a star hurler like Bieber. I doubt they get it done now, however, although with the way pitcher health is, he would be wise to lock in a deal soon.
Avory
@bobtillman @billmonbouquette
Wow. One of the best posts in recent memory. On the money in every respect.
It’s funny to me; no one complains when we get to watch collegians in football or basketball for one to three years, but when we get to watch Shane Bieber pitch on our team for “only” seven, it’s unacceptable.
Let others overpay him for his decline; rest assured, we’ll have him for his prime.
D-Money
Quoting the wise words of our great leader, Paul Dolan, “Enjoy him”.