The Nationals have released right-hander Jeremy Jeffress, Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post reports. The move was made due to “personnel reasons,” GM Mike Rizzo said in a statement.
Jeffress only signed his minor league contract with the Nats back on February 22, and would have earned at least $1.25MM in guaranteed salary had he made Washington’s MLB roster. While the timing of the release is somewhat unusual, it could be that the Nationals made a quick decision on Jeffress and simply chose to cut him now rather than prolonging his stay in camp. Jeffress may also now get something of an early jump on catching on with another team, though several other veteran relief pitchers are still available.
Looking to pitch in his 12th Major League season, Jeffress posted a 1.54 ERA over 23 1/3 innings with the Cubs last season, though numerous advanced metrics (ranging from a 4.96 SIERA to a .161 BABIP) indicated that a lot of good fortune went into Jeffress’ sterling ERA. It was something of a reversal of his 2019 season, as the secondary statistics indicated that Jeffress pitched better than his 5.02 ERA over 52 innings with the Brewers.
Jeffress has a career 3.08 ERA and 56.6% grounder rate over 424 1/3 career frames with five different clubs, with the majority (304 2/3 IP) of that work over parts of seven seasons with Milwaukee. Reports back in January indicated that multiple clubs were considering Jeffress, so one of those teams could again come calling with a minor league deal now that the 33-year-old is back on the market.
“Personal reasons” sounds as if he was caught doing something that would have gotten him in trouble if it was public knowledge. I hope that’s not the case.
Dude. Re-read it please.
It says “personnel” not personal.
I’m wondering if the Nats truly meant to say “personnel” instead of “personal”. The statement was issued via a 6 word tweet from the Nats front office. I wonder if auto-correct reared its head here. It seems that if there was a true, personnel issue that the Nats would have expounded on it a little more; not to mention the cryptic tweet by Jeffress, blaming his FORMER agent for ruining his life.
If there’s one good thing here, he was released early enough to latch on with another team and still be ready for opening day. If he is having actual personal issues, I hope he works them out. I’m guessing with all of the media coverage on this story, the Nats will be ‘forced’ to discuss this decision a little more in depth and we should find out more soon. Either way, hard not to pull for Jeffress. I’d love to see him use this as motivation to have a career year.
Yeah. It seems like this could be a contract dispute. Maybe he thought his money was guaranteed? Or maybe believed he could earn more incentives if he had a stellar season? I was surprised he signed such a small contract after the season he just had. He was one of the best 2 relievers on the market at the time he signed that deal. In less than a third of a season he posted more than a full win above replacement as a reliever. That’s really hard to do. I was even more surprised his contract wasn’t guaranteed. The only free agent reliever even close to him as a comparison is Shane Greene. I know Greene would have never signed that contract. He earned a prorated salary of over $6 million last season. I’m sure he expects to at least get in that ballpark over a full season this year. $1 million not even guaranteed? That is a shockingly low number. There are many terrible players that got a similar contract to that this offseason.
Based on his former agent’s most recent tweet, I’d guess it’s something to do with domestic violence.
i don’t take tweets with any sincerity also on that notion an agent shouldn’t be going on twitter and debating or arguing a point with a player who may or may not be acting like a child (not saying either side are being children i’m just generalizing). just like like what the mariners former ceo even thou what he said wasn’t really that bad yes ignorant on how he wanted to project his point and if he used a better wording on his point he might still have a job. my point it is if your in a high profile industry or a top executive in the corporate world you gotta have a pulse on current events and know everything you say is going to be under a microscope and regardless of personal feelings conduct business as such. yes it sucks you can’t be very open but if you don’t like not being to speak your mind then maybe your career shouldn’t be in a position of limelight where idiots and genius pick apart everything you do personal or professionals.
The quote from the article is actually “personnel reasons,” which, while vague, changes the meaning quite a bit.
Jeffress tweeted 2h that his agent ruined his life.
twitter.com/jmontana41/status/1368584209858768901?…
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It’s still there.
“Jeremy Jeffress
@JMontana41
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@JoshuaKusnick
jus ruined my life. I’ve been nothing but a great friend and client to him. For over 10 years. Thanks buddy.”
Joshua Kusnick, referenced here, says he hasn’t been Jeffress’s agent since 2019.
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Hey commentors, should we just use the previous article before the ones that have “comments closed”, Yay to free speech? Lol.
But yeah Jeffress is crazy, same with Bauer, Stroman and few others. I’m amazed at decisions that happen across all sports sometimes with players!
Free speech only applies to the government. Private entities are free to regulate discourse as they please.
Direct censorship is not allowed across all aspects of American life & business! I was making a joke of a way around the “comments closed” posts anyways and not trying to start a legal debate. Must be one of the people who criticizes spelling or goes on & on about the “personal” or “personnel” wording.
As for Cey Hey paralegal, please look up free speech and freedom of expression!
You need to open your eyes to reality.
Ok, not sure what that means but no one even posts anything obscene, racially insensitive, classified information, etc. People can’t express a thought or opinion? EVERYONE has opinions nowadays! You’ve expressed your opinions, Cey Hey expressed his opinions & subtle insults.
No wonder Jeffress has bounced around to 7-8 teams in little over 10 years. I don’t think that’s a coincidence and that is my opinion!
You can speak your mind, but MLBTR is not obligated to provide you the digital ink to do so.
Hmmm. Seems like several of the LA-Z-BOY lawyers have an interpretation of the law. Wonder if any actual lawyers or judges could chime in? Why have any comment boards then? Because MLBTR knows or should know that’s a big draw for some.
Opinions are like a certain part of your body on your back side.
I’ll give one one. You are a funny troll. Few can pull off even that task.
An opinion is backed by some kind of factual evidence. Otherwise, it is just emotional spewing. Seventh-grade students learn this when they begin debating in English class. It’s obvious why comments are closed on some topics: people will react emotionally rather than logically. MLBTR provides baseball news. A link to comment doesn’t have to be provided for every story.
Emoting gets the hits, so it often fits. Brains can see past that, but many get swallowed up in the neuroactive satisfaction of getting the likes.
Ohhhh Grandpa Cey Hey, here’s the exact definition of an opinion- “A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge”. So the complete opposite of your “definition” of an opinion. SMH
You do a great job at representing that interpretation.
I appreciate you Antwone! But that was the exact “definition” and not my interpretation.
Yep, speling and grammer sukcs. Rite?
So what do you say when ‘private entities’ control the new public squares such as Facebook and Twitter, etc? Their influence continues to expand and it is the way many in 2021 communicate. So you still think that’s OK? They silence who they wish and get rich in the process by SPYING on people. Do you think that is OK as well?
One could argue that they are out of compliance with Section 230, but until the enforcers of that law do anything, it really doesn’t matter what you or I think. You should definitely let your representation know that you are not satisfied with how they do business. If they don’t listen, vote for different representation that will.
That’s not true, actually. The first amendment only applies to the government. “Free speech” is a broad societal value that can be (and often is) applied to colleges, private entities, etc.
It’s a good point though. Seemed to be perhaps relevant as well.
It’s a common mistake. Obviously, you were familiar with the actual legalities. I’m rather astounded by how many folks are not.
& “personal” & “personnel” do change the meaning of the article a lot.
whosyourmomma5 hours ago
Ohhhh Grandpa Cey Hey, here’s the exact definition of an opinion- “A view or judgment formed about something
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But, in my opinion, opinions should not be offered without at least some subject knowledge. For example, if I ask where the Armory is located, and you never even heard of the Armory, I’d prefer you to not offer your opinion.
Lol and you call other people armchair lawyers?
Antone: Well, it certainly is if it is promoting an “unbiased” open-thought format. If not, it cannot violate its own rules by permitting only one side’s opinions, whilst censoring the opposing side.
In short, Internet forums are not permitted to censor content-based speech while permitting the exact same {opposing} speech, all while listing rules that prohibit both. It begins to get complex, but it certainly is not as simple as they can cancel any comment they simply don’t like…. case law does exist on this.
But, we are here to tam baseball and that wasn’t even what he was saying – at all. He was referring to comments closing, generally. JJ has issues, Nats don’t want issues = JJ is gone.
While true, that’s a dangerous path. Social media is a major form of communication today, silencing voices is rather scary. Unless you are on the side of the power–then people are fine w it. “First they came for my friends…”
they are allowed to, however civil suits can be filed if their Terms and Policy are as you say.
230 didn’t plan for this so its all kinds of messed up giving things like social media permission to smack down anything they don’t agree with. Basically allowing to act as a publisher while having the rights of a platform.
It sucks but it is what it is until it isn’t. 230 needs updated for the times.
Back to Baseball. JJ will land somewhere.. hopefully what ever issues are going on get worked out.
Calves, @njbirdsfan?
Regarding “crazy” players: You’re just a fan and don’t know these players personally, so stop pretending that you do. Thankfully, they don’t have to live up to the standards of someone who doesn’t know the definition of free speech in America.
*we don’t know the personelly*
Free speech doesn’t apply on a message board on a website. Free speech means you can go and create your own website and leave comments and I’m sure people will line up to read.
@down with obp
You are correct 1st Amend is not the aribtor of what is allowed in this particular comment section. It’s the site owner.
to all of here that feel every thread should be open on the basis of the 1st amendment the owner/owners of the site have the same right to close off or restrict our speech on there site. do you i like no but i understand why they do it and if you don’t like no one is stopping you from making your own trade rumors site.
Brodie-Bruce goes yard.
Yup.
It’s on us. We just can’t seem to handle certain topics without everyone…well a lot of us conducting ourselves quite poorly. I’ve been guilty of this as well.
thanks doesn’t happen often for me but it feels good when i do
*flips his bat*
To the backstop a la Bautista or the trot & drop? Somewhere in between?
Hope you had a great weekend, bro.
i did thanks for asking bro pretty uneventful but being in my 30’s now uneventful for the most part is good. btw yea something in between lol
Roger that, @b-b.
I could still raise some hell when I was in my 30’s. But I became a single parent in my thirties, too.
So weekends weren’t necessarily “uneventful”. But they also were not the makings of a big playa-playa at all. Watch your boy play flag football when he’s 3 & score a touchdown & let’s see how cool you look, man.
🙂
I like the trot & drop. It’s so understated it’s douchey.
i don’t have kids yet (hopefully i will) but most of my my weekends are helping my bro get his kids and hanging out at his place with him and his kids. it’s uneventful in the ways me and bro used to live for the weekends and love to cut loose but hanging around my nieces and nephews is eventful in its own way and wouldn’t trade the time i spend with them for anything just doesn’t make for a awesome weekend story most of the times.
That’s so awesome, man. A good uncle is gold. My son’s mother hasn’t really been involved in his life since he was 8 months old. But her brother – so my son’s uncle – has been such a great influence on him.
God bless Uncle Bob, man. Love that guy. A few years ago he got married & shortly after had his own. They’re expecting another this spring. So he – obviously – doesn’t have as much time as before.
But they’re still tight. & he was so much further ahead than I was when it comes to basic parenting skills. Bro. I learned how to change diapers from YouTube videos.
Man.
Those were some rugged days, bro. I bet you are a pretty fun uncle. & you’ll learn some pretty useful stuff that’ll come in handy.
i try to be today one of them asked hey can we go on highway trip across the country and i went if your parents are cool with then ok. i think that’s what is missing in kids lives today that cool “aunt/uncle” that adult they can trust to help but not hear the lecture that they messed up or there getting punished for doing what mom and dad did when they where my age. i think as we become parents or in a role of a parent figure we forget we where there once too and forget the people that will bail us out are also the ones we’re most afraid to go to. that’s y i try to be that bridge to both side i just hope my philosophy doesn’t change when i get kid of my own
Fantastic, @ brodie-bruce.
Nailed it. One of my single dad survival credos is, “there is no such thing as too many positive adult influences on my son”.
Man, I get to – more or less – coast from October through April. The downside of that is 80+ hour weeks May-September. So. No summer vacations for me.
But his uncle has taken him on several really cool road trips. Your brother is fortunate. Trust me.
& it sounds like so much fun. Get it in before you start having your own.
As an uncle you never really have to be the bad cop. Ya know? You can always roll out the: “yeah, I think so too, but your mother/father think we should wait a couple more years”.
Obviously, the stakes are raised when your doing something like a long road trip. But you seem to understand the value of trust. That’ll help when you’re the one “in charge”. My son’s uncle is really a Big Kid. Which I get. You could accuse me of the same thing & I wouldn’t have an argument.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way. Because I think it’s actually a good trait, or whatever. & we’re on a blog that focuses entirely on a game. What I’m getting at here, is I think there’s a decent chance that you are too. & in the end, kids are mainly into just having fun. I had so much fun (still do – although it happens a lot less these days) playing catch, or shooting hoops, or volleying down at the tennis courts with Xavier. But – really – that’s kid stuff.
Ya know?
no offense taken i value my being an uncle and the fact some of them are hitting the age “i don’t parents or any adult” and haven’t tossed me aside yet. i can tell you being the cool uncle but still being a kid yourself is hard. can’t tell you how often i had to stop myself when they tell me of there stupidity and i wanna go no this is how you do it and go hey just because i was stupid at 16 and got away with doesn’t mean the same luck is going to fall on them. in some ways being that “cool” uncle/aunt is harder than it seems. even now i think about what do i do if they come to me with some “heavy stuff”. do i break that trust with them because i’m looking out for them or continue being cool and the worst happens and i could of stopped it but hey i wanted to be “cool”. it’s a very hard line to walk also really cool that you and your kid have the relationship you do and cherish it. me and my old man have that relationship even though he sometimes treats me like an 8yo but i give to him most of the time because i’m still his kid and to any parent like figure “your kids” are always going to be your kids.
Touche’.
I’ve watched my son’s uncle thread that needle. There was really only one instance that he felt the need to break trust. In the end, I was able to work backwards & came up with a perfectly reasonable explanation for finding out. So we never really had put that trust to the test.
In the end, you are investing time & it seems like you’re willing to try some pretty challenging stuff, too. I think those are the most important ingredients in Cool Unclehood.
You’re right, though.
I guess you could always just become one of those relatives that kicks down a Christmas & birthday present & calls it good. Which – hey – nothing wrong with that. I don’t have any relatives that live anywhere near me so that’s what I am.
But my guess is that you’ve travelled far too long down that other path. Kids just work their way into your heart. Which I’m certain you realize, uh.
Everyone’s situation is different, but remember the grandparent’s. Neither grandfather was around for my kids, but both grandmothers were deified. My mom was like 85, and still able to play on the floor with the kids.
Lol now his agent responded on Twitter with a photo of the number for the national domestic abuse hotline.
Must of pissed someone off. I get the deeper numbers weren’t great, but seemed like a solid minor league deal.
Didn’t he used to have a drinking problem?
I think it was weed, but pretty irrelevant to this story either way.
Well getting released for personal reasons would lead one to think why. Then would would lead one to remember they had personal issues a few years before. So yeah it’s relevant, idiot.
wfaa.com/article/sports/mlb/rangers/rangers-pitche….
It didn’t say personal…..idiot. Reading is hard.
It’s not relevant at all, read the article. It doesn’t say “personal” it says “personnel”.
Damn dude, who pissed in your cherrios this morning?
Thanks for the link getrealgone. This should give Jeffress more time to get his recreational activities on. Texas doesn’t much like the marajuana possession stuff. Jeffress should be calling the Rockies that state is more friendly to these things.
Ok yes the guy used weed before do to his anxiety but he was able to get the proper help in Milwaukee. Now on the proper medicine to help him with the issues. He also has a great support system.
There is no “settled science” on what should be considered “proper” when it comes to medicating anxiety.
To deliver maximum burn, I’d recommend going with a comma instead of an ellipsis between ‘personal’ and ‘idiot’. Just trying to help.
All I know is that he has never hurt anybody and if it helps him in health issues I don’t care what he does in his own time. Overall he is a pretty good guy.He is happy with his two dogs and food truck. I hope he gets put on Milwaukee wall of fame
@mlb1225
shhhhhhhhh…
Doug Dascenzo1 hour ago
I think it was weed, but pretty irrelevant to this story either way.
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But it could be. When folks get released under unusual circumstances, it makes sense to wonder why.
I know he has two weed suspensions, but not sure on the booze
He was dealing with seizures… the weed was to deal with the anxiety. Eventually he got proper treatment.
Weed also helps with seizures, specifically CBD, but it’s known to be very effective without the negative side effects of prescription medications
I have no idea if it is connected, but I thought it was worth noting that:
Wiki:
“On August 30, 2007, Jeffress was suspended for 50 games after testing positive for “a drug of abuse,” which was reportedly marijuana.[21] This was not his first positive test; he had been given a warning for his first offense.[22] In June 2009, he tested positive a third time, and was suspended for 100 games.[22] One more positive test will result in a lifetime ban for Jeffress.[23]
“In late June 2013 while with the Triple-A Buffalo Bisons, Jeffress was diagnosed with juvenile epilepsy, which gave an explanation to the high anxiety and seizures that he had experienced through most of his adult life. Before receiving a proper diagnosis, he self-medicated with marijuana.”
I understand that rules are rules and all, but I think it is useful to understand where this might be coming from.
Just was saying what happened, I’m pro weed. My bong is pro weed too
IT SAYS PERSONNEL NOT PERSONAL
One more time for those in the back LOL
Easy to say 4 hours after the comment when it looks like it was late. It was like one of the first ones on here you just had a long convo up above go on so it looks like it’s after that whole discussion.
But of course, both of your comprehension is top notch.
Man says all he is need is prayer now. And perhaps anti seizure meds.
I hope he enjoyed his two weeks with Nationals
I heard he was elected into the Nationals hall of fame! All jokes aside I hope he latches on with another team. I wonder what kind of personnel issues the Nats had. Not enough lockers or something? Lol
dodgers had some interest back when he was a FA… maybe the news about joe kelly today could sway the dodgers to sign jeremy to minor league deal.. would make some sense.
One situation where spelling matters. Personnel is different than personal.
Although the team may be conflating the two purposely. Seems strange they would dump him at this point.
“Although the team may be conflating the two purposely” is exactly what I thought of too. Perhaps something happened and the team is just being diplomatic and polite in their statement.
I believe something happened with his agent. Jeffress said this agent ruined his life. Maybe some false promises or a loophole in his deal? Nats might not have wanted to deal with it even though Jeffress was pitching well in camp and Martinez was excited about him.
Except the agent he referenced, Josh hasn’t been his agent in years. Kyle has been since 2019 so it’s kind of a weird flex.
Man.
Not knowing whom your agent is seems kinda…highass. Ya know?
I’ll be honest that I read that as “personal” and not “personnel” until I read the comments. What a strange rhetorical statement.
It’s an odd way to describe it because anytime you make any roster move then by definition it would be for “personnel reasons”. I view it as a completely unnecessary qualifier added to intentionally confuse people.
I can’t verify that this is true because it’s not on his timeline anymore, but there’s a screenshot floating around Twitter of Jeffress tweeting out that his agent ruined his life. There’s got to be more to the story hear but people are being purposely vague.
@antone –
Same here. Makes a pretty big difference though. Hat tip to the grammar/spelling fellas.
@antone somewhere in this thread i made that same comment when i read personnel decisions on a sports site my mind goes to fo not players.
Maybe they didn’t feel like paying his translator…
Idiot comment, what translator, dude was born in Virginia.
It was a stab at the Mariners and Kevin Mather.
Not sure if racist or just a funny stab at the LolMariners.
It was a stab at the Mariners and Kevin Mather.
I don’t really see how that could be tied into racism, @antone. I’m wary of opening up this particular topic. As it seems to be one the blog struggles to remain respectful of one another during the discourse.
Pretty sure it’s just the Mariners thing. Which is a pretty bizarre situation all around just on it’s own “merit”.
they had to pay for a translator because of his thick virginia accent lol. (that was a joke like the op’er taking a shot at a moron ceo)
Man, I’ll tell you though. As a Yankee, when I hear that Virginia drawl from a lass it…effects me.
“Y’all have a nace day nah”. Lord. Kills me, bro.
lol i feel the same way when i hear a girl with that thick new england accent (before anyone blasts me it’s just the tone of a new england accent on a girl is just not appealing i can’t remember if it was ted 1 or 2 but the stuffed bear brings up my point)
Funny. I grew up in The City. But spent a bunch of time in Maine, too. So those are just regular – or whatever – to me. & the Midwest, Western accents don’t have any kind of added effect for me. But those southern girls…
We can’t get in trouble for saying we find certain accents appealing that some woman have.
Can we?
i wish i can say we can’t but today we can get in trouble for just saying hi in the wrong tone or hey like what you did with your hair today.
hey it’s all personal preference and i’ll most likely get banned because i think women with foreign accents are hotter
Nah.
It’s completely innocuous.
& I can see where some of the backlashes are coming from. One of my sales guys is straight out of central casting for a high rolling construction salesman. Drives a BMW, lifts every day, gets $100 hair cuts, & dresses better than I do. Which – I gotta admit – chafes a bit. Bro, I have my Carheart barn coats & work vests tailored.
But, man. I hate meeting with him for his pipeline meetings. We always gotta meet at some trendy bar or restaurant. Which… well, I can weather that storm. Here’s the thing, though. Every single attractive woman he sees he says, “that looks fun”.
Bro, I really don’t need or want that in my life. It’s just…man, not right.
Accents are fine to discuss though.
& – hey – it’s not altogether a bad thing to pay a little more attention to what I say.
Words are pretty powerful.
i get sometimes it’s over the top i understand i stopped listening to howard stren in hs because i got tired of hearing about who he wanted to bang. i was like cool dude you want her so does every straight guy in the country but it’s getting old. just like my co-workers go on and on about the “hottie” that walked by the job site an hour ago dude enough. sadly that’s the society we live in now your not validated unless your driving designer cars and clothing. i’d argue carharts are just as good as designer stuff because they work and if your working class or a working owner you want stuff that works not what’s in vogue.
On Twitter he appears to blame everything on someone named Joshua Kusnick. It seems he is an agent.
I did a quick Google search: Kusnick used to be Jeffress’s agent until about a year and a half ago, and it looks like Kusnick made the choice to stop representing Jeffress. Why, I’m not sure, and what this has to do with the Nationals letting Jeffress go all this time later, I don’t know either.
Could have been personnel reasons?
From his twitter
Jeremy Jeffress
@JMontana41
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@JoshuaKusnick
jus ruined my life. I’ve been nothing but a great friend and client to him. For over 10 years. Thanks buddy.
Jeffrey
@my_name_is_jeph
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care to expand?
Jeremy Jeffress
@JMontana41
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Ask
@JoshuaKusnick
Yikes. Had a good relationship in the past. Flaws in JJ’s numbers, but no doubt plenty of teams w/ history of bad bullpens (Phillies, Marlins, etc.) should take a look.
Very odd, imo. His numbers are inconsistent, but almost any team could use him as minor league depth.
I actually think teams with rather deep established bullpens should be sniffing around him. He’d most likely be a pretty good 5th or 6th reliever. I think he’s one of the remaining relief arms that would raise the floor of a good pens middle relief.
Not the sexiest of profiles. Figures to be a fairly inexpensive add, too. For a million bucks – or whatever – I’d be interested in seeing the Yanks take a chance on him. He’d slot into the 6th reliever spot. Now that Abreu has an option I can see Cashman getting back into the reliever market.
you know if the price is right i wouldn’t mind seeing the cards taking a floater on him. if he can prove he can be a real option in the pen and allows a kid to get real development and seasoning then what’s the real risk. jeff. is a perfect low risk high dividend candidate assuming off the field issues isn’t the reason he is looking for a job atm. (not saying that he is looking for a job because of off field stuff but if he is it’s a whole different discussion)
He keeps the ball on the ground & in the park. I think in a lesser role he can help a lot of ‘pens. Not sure I want him as part of my end game, but as for fortifying your team’s middle relief I think he’s a pretty good option.
I don’t really have a decent bead on the Cards bullpen. So I don’t have much of an idea where exactly he’d fit on the totem pole.
i just seeing as a good buy low guy our pitching staff is like this pretty solid with done upside but not knocking down doors. there is also huge downside a lot of our pitching staff is young and volatile and can really blow up in our faces too. honestly stl pitching resembles nyy a lot of upside but a lot of risk only difference really is age. nyy is relying on older guys to hit and in stl we’re relying on the kids to hit it
>< some upside not done upside f’ing siri this is the one spelling mistake i can blame on her
sounds like a lawsuit might be on the way.
Kusnick says on Twitter he hasn’t been Jeffress’s agent since 2019. He calls JJ’s comment “Hackery”
He said/she said on Twitter rarely provides much clarity.
i mean, the agent could still be meddling, ie slandering or harassing him or something
Seems as though a wall was almost immediately struck which often indicates something out of the ordinary transpired either on the field or maybe even off…
Something weird going on beneath the covers here. This guy spent 7 yrs. with Mil, went 24-8 with a 2.66 ERA & 43 saves. In 2020 4-1, 1.54 ERA with 8 saves. It’s a mystery to me. His performance is A+, what do you think braves, worth a gamble?
I’m hearing that the personal issue was a matter of principal.
We’ll need to have patients while this gets resolved.
Here, here!
The intention choice of words — “personnel reasons” — is both confusing and opaque.
“Intentional”.
Why not simply say something like “we’ve already made some directional decisions regarding bullpen construction and realized Jeremy was not going to be part of our plans, so we released him to grant him as much time as possible to find a new team.”
That would also be b.s., but it would sound less damaging. Teams simply don’t release bullpen arms so early in camp when there are weeks left and injuries can still happen. They’d hold that depth until the last second.
That’s dishonest, no? Since guys are actually still vying for spots. “Personnel decision” is a blanket statement and implies that there will be no further comments.
yeah its undeniably intentional. any roster move is a “personnel move”
Jeffress has always been a slight hot headed individual, and was probably a little mad that he wasn’t getting promised a 40 man spot, and was more likely slated to AAA even if he did outperform others pitchers already on the 40 man. He had a good year last year and a solid career thus far, so understandable him being a little upset of not making opening day with the club.
I guess reading is hard for some people. Lol
So is being honest.
Didn’t he have an opt out in his contract if he didn’t make the club? Maybe he asked to be released based on a contractual stipulation. Weird his agent “ruined his life” …maybe Jeremy didn’t pay him on previous contracts and now mr. agent wants his money.
Making personnel decisions for personnel reasons certainly seems…appropriate. If not at all informational.
GM Mike Rizzo further elaborated that in this case the personnel reasons were primarily related to the team’s baseball personnel. And more specifically, to those baseball personnel employed by the Nationals for on-field baseball performance.
Mets need to be in on this guy, our bullpen sucks
He’s still breathing so he’ll get another offer.
Lots of conjecture here. Players are released all the time with no reason given. In this case, why does everything think it’s their business to know the reason? It’s just MLB business as usual.
everything? haha!
Thanks. Everyone!
We’re on a website that’s all about MLB transactional rumors and we’ve got a player who had a 1.54 ERA last year getting released without even throwing in a Spring Training game and then tweeting out that his former agent ruined his life.
The reason behind all this is germane to whether or not he’s a good fit to latch on somewhere else so I think people have a right to be curious.
The truth is that nobody is entitled to be provided the full story. Private lives means lives have some privacy. That won’t stop the jerks, but there are still some honest people that can respect boundaries.
i think it has a lot to do with the wording “personnel decision” makes sound like he was a fo guy. usually the headline for a release is “team x released player x” and that’s about the gist of it
I’m honestly not sure what could have transpired. —
Maybe he and one of the coaches got into it, he could’ve mouthed off at a front office executive, perhaps he was baited and switched into thinking he had a good shot at making the team, perhaps he had violation of safety protocol, perhaps after arriving and camp maybe he didn’t like his new environment, teammates, situation and asked for a release, perhaps he had some settled legal issue off the books that made him be released. I don’t know, we are not privy to details.
What I wonder is if anyone would take a chance on an average to slightly above average veteran arm with a little bit of baggage risk. Sure, he might have some neuropsychological history, but evidence suggests that is a thing of the past. Who really cares about marijuana anyway. He could really help some pens out there like Atlanta, Philly, Miami, LAA, many teams could use him.
I’m 420-friendly but if my employer forbids usage, I’m either going to stop or look for work elsewhere. Luckily, I’m my own boss. I know for a fact that if I go a little nuts on the stuff that I will feel a bit groggy the next day thus less productive. Therefore, I will exercise discretion if there are important things to do on that day. This is just me.
I’d think if it was related to marijuana we’d hear pretty quickly about a grievance. even if the Nats have the right to prohibit where players may use certain substances, termination may be cause for grievance. that said, i think its jumping to conclusions at this point when it may not even be a matter of something ill Jeffress did.
@bleavhercreature
Yeah, I may think about partaking occasionally again after my son goes to college.
As a single parent I engage in too much “do as I say not as I do” stuff. At this point, my son & I have talked about it. My stance is pretty much, “I’d rather you didn’t, but at least wait until college”. I think that’s fairly reasonable?
back in the 80’s drugs were the reason the cards traded hernández to the mets. whitey found out about the players “coking” it up in the room and whitey told them to knock it off or find a new job. keith response was what i do in my off time is mine (which he is right about that) but if your employer doesn’t want you to doing it then either you suck it up and don’t do it or find different employment. when i spent 4 years in the usaf i wanted to smoke pot everyday but didn’t because the risk wasn’t worth it. like it or not as a mlb player your in the limelight and everything you do is under a microscope and if the team wants you to slow down or stop smoking during the season it’s there right. players don’t like it then start your team and/or league that anything goes until you do if the guy that sings your checks says them are the rules gotta follow them regardless if you like them or not
One of the most all-time interesting subjects in history.
“What do I tell the kids?”
I like drinking, and did so underage. So I never gave my kids permission to drink, but never over-reacted when they did. I tried to teach them some do and don’t’s to keep them out of the most serious type of trouble, but also didn’t want it to be the forbidden fruit.
@joe now this is going off subject a bit because this is a bb site but i think the best prevention for substance abuse whether it’s legal or illegal is parents talking to there kids and being open to there stupidity at there age. i don’t have kids yet but i have nieces that i consider my own and they’ve asked me them questions and i answer them honestly about and then offer solid advice. kids are going do stupid stuff (i know all of us older posters here are no exception) i just think we should let kids be “stupid” to an extent and in a controlled environment. this is the last i will speak on this because this inst the thread for such things but the comment was least good enough throw validation on (and if feel it wasn’t then by all means say so but keep it in good taste)
You were a Zoomie, uh?
Jarhead here. I trust we can work though this.
It was never really my thing. Don’t get me wrong. In college I was a pretty powerful bong ripper. But – for better or worse – I’ve always preferred booze as my favorite recreational drug. & I’ve been hooked on tobacco pretty much the whole time. Swapped out Red Man/Skoal for cigars almost 5 years ago. I feel nominally more civilized. I’d still love to throw a big wad of Red Man in my cheek right now though, man. So good.
But – yeah – there are always going to be some rules as long as we try to maintain a civilized society. Personally, I think weed is less destructive than booze.
But I can get into trouble – or whatever – for all kinds of reasons. I’d rather not add any.
As a parent, with a solid chance of being 50% wrong and 50% right:
1-Never lie, but never offer too much information about your misdeeds.
2-Never approve of some their stupid (and illegal) stuff, but never forget you’ve probably done similarly stupid stuff.
3-Don’t sweat it when they go off the road YOU chose for THEM.
4-Try to provide guidance, without judgement. My favorite was ‘you aren’t allowed to drink, but if you do, don’t be one of the stupid kids who winds up on FB with a beer in your hand and getting a call from the principal’.
Fun story (kind of). I suspected my daughter went to a party from talking to other parents. So I ask her about and she’s like ‘what party’. I knew enough details to bluff her, and she admitted it. But then she tells me “you’d be proud of me because it was my phone they used to call the ambulance.”
My wife suspected the party, but I decided to keep the ambulance part a secret between the two of us.
lol never heard us call zoomies mostly chair force (which pissed me off because i had one of many jobs in the af that you could fly a chair) anyways thanks for your service even though you were a “jarhead” without you and other usmc (and army guys) protecting the line. i wouldn’t be able to do my job which was repair and maintain that air support that you love.
btw to anyone that wants to jump on my back because i called ducky a jarhead i want let this be known all branches of the military give other branches flak but it’s in all fun and games and anyone who hasn’t served the i ask you honor what branch we served if even in your opinion that x branch isn’t as important than the other because i can tell all the branches are important. now i’ll get off my soap box just remember love or hate the military there the main reason we can have these discussions/arguments and rights and also if you see a vet especially an older vet go up to him or her and thank them it means a lot to us when a civilian thanks us.
hey nothing wrong with that and i bet the next time your daughter dose something “stupid” (hoping she doesn’t but she’s also a kid and is going to do something stupid again we all have done and in no exception even now) you have built up the trust that she can call you and go dad i messed up and i need help and your gonna help and not explode and have to go have fun behind your back and make a even dumber choice. i tell my older godchildren all the time you got my number you need a ride from a party or something and feel awkward calling the rents call me. i’ll give flak but i’ll keep it between us.
Hard to disagree with much of that @Brady.
I’m not sure if they were numbered in rank of importance so I may quibble a tad with that.
One thing that I would add would be the respect & trust – from both of us – that when either one of us says, “we need to talk about this later” that needs to be honored.
That’s a pretty big deal for my son & I.
I’ve just gotten lucky on a bunch of stuff in re his personality. He really just doesn’t care for drinking very much. So that’s not really much of a battle. Same thing with chewing. When I was his age, every pair of my jeans had one of those circles in my back right pocket from a can of Skoal. Just got lucky on those in terms of my hypocrisy.
No wife to keep secrets from. But I’m willing to endorse your decision here. That probably doesn’t matter much to you. But sometimes conspiracies are appealing to me.
Man, @b-bruce, it might have fallen out of fashion. I think I’m ~ 20 years older than you are. & it might be something only leathernecks say. Because: USMC. You know how we are. Plus I just like it more.
Look.
You guys really do spend quite a bit of time sitting. A lot more than the rest of us. But the USAF is one helluvan ace in the hole. Love those guys, man.
& when they’ve just gone ahead & bailed your fanny out a time or two…well, whatever it is exactly you guys are doing it works.
So go right ahead & take her easy. You guys are bad ass. Even if you are a bunch of keyboard warriors.
Yeah, yeah. Of course I’m eating crayons. The green ones are the best.
can’t argue with there there are a lot of jobs in the af that makes look bad unfortunately for me i didn’t get “lucky” and get a chair job. i went working on jets that f’ing cool turns out not as cool as i thought. still wouldn’t change it even though it wasn’t till years later when i was back home and talking to my army buddy who saw combat. i was telling him man i can’t count myself as a “true vet” i was a mechanic on aircraft we never saw war. that’s when he told me how important my service was and how many time he got a boost from seeing that usaf plane fly over for support. his comments really opened my eyes about my service and those who have real productive jobs behind the scenes unless your finance. sorry finance guys in the military you guys aren’t needed you can have civilians do your jobs
The sight of a Black Hawk or a Starfire was oftentimes heart warming. & the USAF are the smart guys.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know; Dept of US Navy. But, man, we don’t even have our own academy. The Coast Guard has an academy. The Merchant(!) Marines have their own academy. As the ultimate insult, it appears the Space Force might actually get one.
Hence: “crayon eaters”.
Or, as my buddy who was in the Navy wife says, “the few…the proud…the uneducated.
But sometimes conspiracies are appealing to me.
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Hell yeah to that one. I trust my wife to do the right thing, so if her and my daughter discuss things that they don’t want to share with me, I am 100% okay with that.
Probably the same with your son and his uncle. The #1 concern is that the kids discuss these things with adults. It certainly doesn’t have to be me.
Yessir.
I get it. & to circle back to an earlier point of yours his grandfather. Heck, even my ex-girlfriend that lived with us for eight years.
They’re still friends. As are her & I. But at this point in time, they’re much better friends than are her & I.
Also: I’m just not entirely sure how to handle you patiently shattering all of my previously held opinions on red sox fans.
So.
I’d be happy to have him redirect his career yet again in Milwaukee
Depending on if it was just a misspelled word or it is in fact correct the meaning could be A) a personal reason in which Jeffres asked for his release or B) a personnel decision in which he was released possibly due to an altercation with a teammate or a violation of the teams policies. With covid protocols players on non-guarenteed deals would likely be cut with no hesitation if such rules were violated. At this point all we can do is speculate until (if?) a reason is given
ambiguous wording, but perhaps it was a mutual contract termiation? perhaps looking for a foreign gig or perhaps taking time off to deal with the agent thing.
The guy he blamed on Twitter hasn’t been his agent in two years.
Everyone arguing about jefresss LOL it says personnel not personal yall are blind
No, most of us saw that. But most of us are aware of his history, and most are now aware of his tweet about his former agent.
This is why we are discussing Jeffress.
The Mets need to sign Jeremy Jeffress. They only have one or two lefty relievers in the bullpen.
Jeffres is right handed
Jeffress better resign with Milwaukee. He’s one of the best pitchers in baseball with us and terrible every where else he goes lol
quick question can anyone tell me how this is a new article when nothing in the article has changed. usually when an article gets “reposted” as a new article. info has changed i.e player officially signed for team x or details on the contract are released ect. this reposted article only a new time stamp no new info unless i missed something (11:55pm cdt) at the time of the repost.
I noticed that also Brodie. No clue here.
This feels really odd to be honest and it sounds like there is a lot more going on than is being let on. We might find out in the future though
you’re probably right but “that’s bs i wanna all the answers now god forbid they hold information back then evil sob’s”
Can anybody tell me this does a Ace pitcher during spring training load bases put runnings on just to put themselfs into jam
Possibly. Spring is all about working on things.
CUBS SIGN HIM NOW!
My agent ruined my life.
-P.P. Pants
His ex agent seems to be insinuating a DV situation on Twitter.
His ex-agent is a nutjob.