3:45 pm: Even after today’s signing of Almora, the Mets haven’t closed the door on bringing in Bradley, hears Julian McWilliams of the Boston Globe (Twitter link).
12:18 pm: Jackie Bradley Jr. stands out as the clear top remaining free agent option for teams looking for a center fielder. It’s not surprising the defensive stalwart seems to be drawing decent interest as spring training approaches. “About a half-dozen teams” remain in the running for Bradley, per Mike Puma of the New York Post.
The Mets have been among the teams most often connected to Bradley this offseason. New York agreed to terms with center fielder Albert Almora Jr. this morning, though. While Puma writes that the Almora addition “doesn’t necessarily” foreclose the Mets from continuing to pursue Bradley, Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News hears New York is indeed now out on the former Gold Glove winner.
That’s not to say the Almora signing ends the Mets’ offseason. Andy Martino of SNY reports that New York remains engaged in the market for free agent pitching and depth pieces on the position player side; they could yet make another addition (or additions) in the coming days, Martino says. Bradley, though, would’ve certainly been a more significant position player pickup than mere bench help. The 30-year-old is coming off a strong season and has apparently set the rather lofty goal of finding a contract of at least four years in length this winter.
Meanwhile, Buster Olney of ESPN relays speculation (Twitter link) from agents not affiliated with Bradley’s representatives at the Boras Corporation that the Astros, Giants and Red Sox appear his likeliest landing spots. All three teams have been connected to Bradley this offseason, although Olney wrote earlier this week that a return to Boston looked unlikely. That may still be the case, as a Red Sox reunion would seemingly only be in the cards if Bradley’s asking price falls due to an unfriendly market, Olney notes.
Gothamcityriddler
If you don’t listen to me and marry this man, you’ll disappoint me.
padam
Then why do you come to me…?
Daver520
Well played
Marty McRae
Still think the Orioles should lock him up, they have money, he’s mashed at their park his whole career, they have no CF options and he fits the Adley-window too.
Redsoxx_62
Yeah I see his as a great fit there too, his father lives in Baltimore so he’d be close to home as well
bravesfan
But y’all are in full rebuild mode and it’s reported he wants a deal that just doesn’t make sense. If I were an O’s fan, I’d rather look elsewhere.
That said, can y’all take Ender off our hands? We’ll package a prospect or two with him. Y’all take Ender and 75-80% of his salary, we’ll throw Tucker Davidson your way. Y’all just throw us some project rookie ball kid and a vending machine to make it look more official lol
SoxRewl
The Os are closer than people think. I feel like the might be WC contenders as soon as 2022 now that they’ve effectively cleared all bad contracts off their books (aside from the obvious one)
winonarider
He can bat eighth in front of Chris Davis
RobM
How close are the O’s? A decade from contention?!
Rutschman will eventually help if he lives up to his prospect ratings, but he’ll need a lot of help. I don’t see the prospect depth nor do I see them spending.
osfandan
Hey Rob, do you know anything about the O’s farm system or are you the type of guy who just follows the crowd and jokes them because they have sucked for a while now? #8 farm system in the game. We have a lot more coming than just Adley over the next couple of years.
That said, I don’t want JBJ. Give the prospects another year to develop, and then next offseason and the following we can fill the gaps with pretty much any FA we want.
802Ghost
Won’t be Davidson. Lesser name.
Rking
Why would you give up a prospect to get rid of a guy who will only be there for a few more months? The money for this year is a sunk cost, just waive him if he is that bad and keep the prospect.
Mjshof
It’s a race to the bottom- the team and the city are swirling around and those aren’t Baby Ruth’s floating by
Fever Pitch Guy
Actually JBS lives in Virginia, close enough though.
PinstripedPride
He might like Philly then, since he’s an East Coaster. They need a real CF
1984wasntamanual
And it still makes no sense for the O’s to do.
trout27
If he signs with the O’s he won’t face the Orioles pitching, which is the main reason he has been so successful in Camden Yards. The Orioles aren’t ready to compete so spend the money on Scouting and Development.
badco44
Yeah only trouble with that is no one has ever accused the O’s of being smart! Greedy is more the word I think!
Rsox
If the Orioles were closer to contention than maybe but since they really aren’t signing JBJ would be done with eyes on trading him later. Cedric Mullins and Austin Hays will continue to get looks in CF
Nobby
You have him confused with Mookie.
vtadave
Tough to believe someone would mash against the Orioles.
Ketch
Austin Hays is not a CF option?
LetGoOfMyLeg
Who is left to offer the 5 yrs Boras wants.
PapiElf
The Giants were willing to sign Tommy LaStella to a 3 year deal but JBJ’s bat doesn’t really play into their stadium. The Astros seem like the most likely spot for him to sign.
whiplash
As much as the Astros need him to replace Springer, I don’t think they have the money.
CalcetinesBlancos
What does LaStella have to do with anything?
scottn59c
I guess it signifies that the Giants may be willing to hand out more than a 1 year contract (which they had not done much of while rebuilding).
Pete'sView
No team, assuming they have baseball smarts. Bradley is an extremely overrated, glove only, player. The Mets signing Almora was a much better strategic (and financial) move.
Dock_Elvis
Bradley is a platoon bat. His defense is solid.
CalcetinesBlancos
His platoon spilts don’t matter much because he’s equally bad against L/R.
mlb1225
I’m surprised the Mets haven’t been linked to Kevin Pillar more. Feels like a cheaper, right-handed version of JBJ.
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The problem with Pillar is that his defense as a CF has really declined – certainly beyond being a useful 4th outfielder for a team like the Mets that is already defensively challenged in the outfield.
mlb1225
In all fairness, Jackie Bradley isn’t necessarily the defender he was 2-3 years ago either.
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JBJ has definitely declined, but he’s still a good enough defender to start out there regularly or be a defensive replacement off the bench, which is not the case for Pillar. That’s my point.
looiebelongsinthehall
Love how everyone says JBJ’s glove has declined. Do you think having an overrated Benny in left has hurt him along with an excellent but different RF in the shirt 2020 season? While players lose a step as they get older, they also become smarter with experience. The real issue to me is whether is how his bat and glove will play 50% of the time in a new home park. His bat would likely improve in Houston but would get exposed in SF or at Citi Field. To me, only three year deals should be from either Boston (my hope) or Houston..
Dock_Elvis
Pillar and Manuel Margot would be an amazing platoon on a team. You’d get incredible offensive value.
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I don’t think that platoon would make much sense given that they don’t really have complimentary skills. Margot is a below average RH hitter who plays good defense in CF and Pillar is a below average RH hitter who plays poor defense in CF. Neither one has really stark L/R splits.
86mets
Sandy dumpster diving again signing trash from the Cubs’ landfill. Did not want JBJ either though, too much $$$ for too many years. So we’re still “engaged” with FA pitchers and depth pieces huh? Which over priced, injury prone hurler will we sign? Rich “Over the” Hill? Tajuan Walker? James Paxton? World Series, Here We Come!!!!
jimmyduz0523
your a loser bro, go root for Yanks or the Dodgers, met fans don’t really think your a real met fan anyway. go kick rocks man.
SalaryCapMyth
Wow. The Mets have had the best offseason that I can remember and you’re angry with them?
@jimmy. I’m a Braves fan. We have an equivalent fan to 86mets. Makes you want to slam your forehead into a wall until all the stupid-crazy is out. I feel ya.
rct
So you agree with Sandy not signing JBJ but will still insult and chastize him, anyway. Good grief.
SalaryCapMyth
@rct. So you don’t get the impression there is some history with 86mets beyond the topic of JBJ?
DarkSide830
apparently anything a team does is dumpster diving now
PitcherMeRolling
Some people don’t know enough about roster building to understand the importance of depth signings. They also don’t know enough about opportunity cost to understand a low-risk signing.
Confortoismyspiritanimal
You’re one of the reasons people hate Mets fans.
SalaryCapMyth
We all have our homers. I know how it feels. You read what a fellow Mets fan says, see how brain dead the statement is and just wish he would follow a different team.
Mjshof
Lol. JBJ doesn’t fit what Mets need unless they trade Smith or Alonso.
Easier for Mets to trade for KK from the Ray’s if they want a glove 1st guy
bobtillman
Easy enough I would think to see what JBJ wants, then figure the difference and get KK from the Rays for two years instead of three. They wouldn’t have to give anything, and the Rays would be happy to shed themselves of at least part of the obligation.
Works for everybody involves. KK gets a chance to play in the Big Titty, off the accursed phony turf, and he doesn’t have to contribute squat to the Mets offense.
Pound for pound, JBJ’s a better overall package (slightly better hit tool, better and more accurate arm, and he plays 150 games a year, unlike Perpetual IL Kevin). But the difference isn’t huge.
123redsox
How does Bradley not fit what the Mets need but KK does? They are both all glove outfielders. Yet Bradley costs only money. Kk would cost assets too. Your logic makes no sense to me.
bobtillman
There would be minimal assets needed to acquire KK from TB. Very very minimal. And if JBJ wants three years, vs. the 2 remaining on KK’s deal……
padam
Not getting the move Smith out Alonso. JBJ would be replacing Nimmo in CF. Smith is in LF and Alonso is at 1B. Zero impact to either of them, 100% to Nimmo. And they’re certainly not going to pick Nimmo over Smith.
whynot 2
If there is a DH, stick Smith at 1B, Alonso DHs and Nimmo in LF
txman22
I love Nimmo’s enthusiasm & on base % but he’s a liability in LF, CF, or RF with his lack of an arm. He’s lucky he can reach 2B. He’s perfect DH for AL. Should get decent player in a trade or if NL has DH, he can be that guy with Dom in LF. Rather trade him.
Rangers29
I think JBJ would fit well in Houston, and I hope he goes there… because I predicted him to lol. Hopefully he’s not too expensive because I think that Stros’ team is just a few pieces away from being a real threat again.
123redsox
Yup! That stros team is only a few trash cans and buzzers away!
pc01
If Alexa Cora is the manager of your favorite team, you don’t get to make any such jokes. Sorry, those are the rules.
pc01
Or *Alex
its_happening
You had it correct the first time.
AL34
I love JBJ as a defensive player, none better but he was one of the streakiest hitters on the Red Sox. He just does not hit and his 2017 season I think was a fluke. He should get maybe a 3 year contract at best, no way 4 years. I would say 3 years at 36 million. That may be too much for him.
expos_back_by_2025
Totally agree
PKCasimir
The Red Sox cut ties with JBJ when they thought that $11 million was way too much to pay for him; yet you say that he’s worth $12 million for three years. If you should ever think of applying for a MLB GM position, don’t.
Rsox
If its $12 million total over three years then sure. If it’s each year, then no thanks
AL34
Well you know Everything genus! When you become a GM call me. I’m sure the Red Sox have calls into you fir the job. Althoyylu probably could do a lot better than Bloom.
sTpGoTexans
Too much, I’m so scared the Astros might do something like that. please, noooo!
takeitback
Astros don’t have enough money to sign him for $12 million per year. Maybe they sign him for $8-9 million, but I think 9 would be the max the Astros could afford.
powerboat9
Enough with this guy !!!!!!! Get Turner for third 2yrs . Get Paxton, and somebody will. be disabled. Get a backup catcher !!!!! Thomas Nieto come on!!!!! Stupid missed on Romine. Ok , Matt Wieters ? why not?….. Then Bauer 40 million!!!! I would bring Nolan Ryan out of retirement than that lunatic and give 100 million
njbirdsfan
It was cold out…so I put on a SWEATSHIRT!!!!! Exclamation point!
-Mr. Lippmann, Seinfeld
Rangers29
Why do the majority of Mets’ fans today seem… ignorant? Thomas Nieto? Who tf is that? Tomas Nido is a good backup catcher, Thomas Nieto is an anime character or something.
powerboat9
You knew who I meant and he sucks
powerboat9
Ok , gentlemen get me a backup catcher that available?
Monkey’s Uncle
Tom Nieto was actually a backup catcher in the 80s, got a World Series ring with the 87 Twins.
Pete'sView
Agree with you on most, but Matt Wieters??? Even as a backup, one of the most hyped and under-performing catchers of the past decade. At 34, he’s only going to get worse.
CalcetinesBlancos
I don’t get Matt Wieters either. If I was a GM I’d rather be giving at-bats and time behind the plate to a catcher I was trying to develop.
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I agree that Nido isn’t a great backup catcher, but the guys you suggested really aren’t any better
SalaryCapMyth
Turner has already expressed his interest in returning to the Dodgers and and a 4 year contract. If 2 years was enough for Turner, he would be a Dodger by now. It’s going to take a minimum of 3 years and maybe even 4 to pull him away from L.A.
Cap & Crunch
Couldnt you also say if JT was able to get a guaranteed 3 yrs he would have already signed it as well ?
I dont see it
2 year deal in the end …the Braves imo should look hard-
Not a bad consolation for the Mets either
SalaryCapMyth
I don’t know if I understand your example. Turner indicated where he wants to be and how long he hopes the contract would be and that was four years. If two years was enough, he would have signed with the Dodgers because they want to bring him back but not for four years. So how are you relating this to JTR and his new contract?
Cap & Crunch
Im not so sure the FO wants him as much as the fans do –
For all we know the Dodgers might only want him on a 1 yr deal (knowing that he will/should prolly seek higher )I think the Mets and Blue Jays should overpay considering they both could use the veteran leadership he will bring and have much better looking ledgers moving forward to make a slight overpay/gamble
He would also be a great pickup for ATL im they could find it in he budget
giantsphan12
As a Giants fan, not sure whether to be excited about the possibility of the Giants signing JBJ, or bummed about the possibility of them landing him. 4 years, paired with his bat, doesn’t seem very appealing.
Pete'sView
No way should the Giants sign Bradley, even for one year. The guy can’t hit.
B-Strong
On a good cost contract, youll be ok. Youll hate his steakiness but you will absolutely love watching him patrol the outfield.
CalcetinesBlancos
I do hear he’s quite tasty.
SalaryCapMyth
Steak..sounds wonderful. =)
sascoach2003
Jake Marisnick is the same player as JBJ, but at a lot cheaper price.
puhl
Defensively yes, offensively, NO.
mlb1225
Defensively, Marisnick is better, but he’s only ever once had a 90+ OPS+ through at least 100 games once, and that was in 2017 so take it with a grain of salt.
RobM
A comparison no one’s ever made before with a straight face.
bigowe
According to Andy Baggarly of the Athletic, “as Zaidi appeared on a teleconference call to comment on the La Stella signing, he all but ruled out a run at outfielder Jackie Bradley Jr”. Looks like LaMonte Wade jr. is the Giants’ version of Almora. So…Houston looks most likely?
Flyby
Do you think Gardner would take a 2 yr maybe 10-14 mil deal to come to queens? He is a consistent player, solid fielder that can play every day in left and center if needed, from NY and can definitely handle the pressure, good clubhouse guy, and take a piece from the yankees as well. Its a slight overpay but from the sound of it is yankee or retire so the extra couple mil and year might reconsider just being a ny guy instead of a yankee guy.
alproof
No Yankee trash!
Flyby
so we pay more for worse red sox trash then?
king beas
As a Mets fan definitely want nothing to do with gardner and his noodle arm we already have nimmo who’s better at the dish
RobM
The Mets might want to focus on having someone who can actually catch a ball. That would be nice, hence why JBJ would fit. It’s not uncommon to see an OF where one of the OFers is below standard defensively, but all three, including CF? Their current all-DH OF is problematic.
LordD99
I suspect the Yankees and Gardner already have a verbal agreement.
whynot 2
You do not want that raging lunatic anywhere your dugout. His antics are just stupid and supper annoying
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
If anything is stupid whynot, it’s your lack of command of the English language. Since you’re busy ripping apart a pro ball player, read your post twice before hitting save.
whynot 2
Ok, I posted without proofreading, my sincere apologies my dear sir and/or madam. Nevertheless, the guy is an annoying raging lunatic. His dugout antics are something no teams should allow or want any part of.
SalaryCapMyth
Man, a lot of posters coming down hard on Gardner. It all depends on what the Mets want him to do. He would make for a quality bench bat/glove if he is willing to except that roll. Brett Gardner is 37 with flagging production so he might. If he is willing to go that route then he has to figure he won’t get starting money so at that point you can offer something like $4 or $5 million. For a bench bat that even feels a little steep.
solaris602
If Gardner was like 3 years younger that would make a lot of sense. He’s on the wrong side of 35, and (as Mr Wonderful would say) for that reason I’m out.
RobM
Flyby, that doesn’t seem like a fit for the Mets unless their goal is to pair Gardner (lefty) with Almora (righty) for a platoon in CF and a defensive upgrade over Nimmo, which is not difficult as Nimmo is the worse defensive CFer in the game. I only see it happening if the Yankees pass on Gardner and the Mets could then pick up Gardner on a 1 year deal for 3 or 4 million. Two year deal? That would take Gardner to age 39. A one year deal, however, I could see a match if the Mets are ok with a league-average offense in CF from Gardner/Almora, move Nimmo to LF where maybe he’s not too far below defensively, and use the surplus in a trade to fill another need. Gardner would seemingly help in the club house, which reportedly is in need of a culture upgrade. Beyond that, I don’t really see it. Gardner wants to return to the Yankees and they want him. He fits them a little better as a 4th OFer, and I suspect he’ll take less from the Yankees to return. Like Tanaka and LeMahieu. Gardner wants to return to the Yankees. Tanaka went home. I suspect Gardner is back on the Yankees.
sTpGoTexans
Attn James Click, PLEASE do not sign JBJ to a long term (>2 yrs) deal. He is not good. We will not be fans. I would rather suffer Straw/Souza for a year and see what develops than be tied to JBJ for more than a year.
puhl
I feel similar. I’d like to have JBJ, but with us this close to the tax (and supposedly we aren’t going over), I’m fine with Straw. I’d rather spend a few million on a back end starter like Arrieta or Hill.
thickiedon
Agreed. Rather see farmhands than long-term Bradley.
Monkey’s Uncle
Anyone who offers Bradley anything longer than a 3 year contract needs to have their head examined… and I feel like I’m being nice in extending my hypothetical to 3 years. If Boras is asking for 5 years teams should be hanging up on him.
solaris602
The guy just doesn’t move the needle enough to justify even 3 years unless you’ve got a powerhouse lineup (LAD/SD/NYY), and you need an elite defender in CF without concern for offensive production. The Astros are probably his best bet, but I’m not buying that the Mets are still in.
bush1
Having watched Almora a ton over the years, if the Mets expect anything more than a defensive replacement they’ll be disappointed. Honestly, he doesn’t even have good speed. He does get good jumps on the ball in the outfield, and a good teammate though. But I’ve got a hard time believing that guy prevents a team from doing a more major move.
123redsox
Are the giants really in play though? They have a plethora of infield options that bump Dubon to center. The team will not be in contention either so it doesn’t make sense for them to spend on a complimentary player that would block the growth of a fine young player in dubon. .. I would have to say the Mets could still be in play as could the redsox. And I believe the astros have real interest but does Bradley hold a personal vendetta that he is not letting on to in order to jack up his price?… maybe the cardinals could show interest if they believe he can be had as a compliment to bader or if they wanted to use Bader as a 4th outfielder. With that said, I’ve heard they want to give Justin Williams a real look too this year. Maybe the phillies if they really don’t want to roll with haseley (which would make no sense to me) .. could the marlins look to move marte to right field and put Bradley in center?… I can’t imagine there would be many real suitors for Bradley
alproof
Mets are far from finished. Say goodbye to Nimmo & Gsellman et al; keep your eyes on Reds’ SP Luis Castillo, 3B Eugenio Suarez. You heard it here first!
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And also heard it here last because the Reds would hang up laughing at that offer.
Dorothy_Mantooth
JBJ is not getting a 4-5 year deal. Not even close. He only comes back to Boston on a 1/$8M deal at the most. He’ll have to settle for 2/$20M from Houston with an option year.
Boston should spend their remaining dollars on a bullpen arm. If healthy, I’d love to see Boston sign Keone Kela to a multi-year contract. He’s a great BP arm and is still young too. Just don’t know about his forearm strain that cut last season short. If he is hurt then they should pivot to Melacon or Greene. Rosenthal is probably too expensive for their taste right now.
its_happening
Almora OPS vs LHP .734
JBJ OPS vs RHP .752
If they can produce those results in the 7th hole in the lineup and provide excellent D, won’t be that bad. Question is if the Mets really need JBJ with their current roster.
jvent
No need to get JBJ save the $$ for Lindor and Conforto
towinagain
Great fielder but can’t hit. Not sure who he lines up with. Rockies fit perfectly, if I was him. Covers their spacious outfield, his offense will trend upward simply by being at Coors. He’s a bounce back signing of sort that shows a fan base you still care.
CalcetinesBlancos
Man, if there is even the remote possibility of teams trying to sign this guy for four years for any amount of money, I hope the White Sox are fielding offers for Adam Engel.
Dorothy_Mantooth
For every 5 clients Boras does right by, there always seems to be a 6th he ends up leaving at the altar. It sure seems like JBJ will be left behind in this class due to Boras’ ridiculous ask. No one is signing JBJ to a 4-5 year deal. Boras overplayed his hand when it comes to JBJs deal size and length and teams aren’t waiting around for him to change his mind. He could very well end up in a place like Detroit or Baltimore on a 2 year deal as most of his original suitors have backed away from him. Houston could still be in play for a short term deal, but I’m sure they are getting impatient as well. Such are the risks when a mediocre talent signs with Boras and drinks his Kool-Aid.
As Mike Brady once said: “caveat emptor”.
CalcetinesBlancos
But keep in mind that a lot of the guys he “does right by” are also guys that would get huge deals with any agent. Bauer, Machado, Betts, Arenado, those guys are getting paid without Boras. Being a middle of the road player with Boras as your agent actually seems like it can be risky if you aren’t careful. Although I guess with guys like Hosmer it only takes one idiot…
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kingken67
Boras was hoping teams would look at JBJ’s 2020 numbers and overrate him vs understanding that they simply represented that he still had his usual hot 2 week stretch of games without the accompanying next 2 months of hitting at or under .200 because of the shortened season. Unfortunately for him and JBJ no one appears fooled by that.
chace alexander
Indians will pay 5/20 because Indians
solaris602
Facts. JBJ is no world beater, but he’s better than the usual suspects CLE throws against the OF wall every spring just to see who, if anyone, sticks.
Monkey’s Uncle
I don’t think the Indians are going to spend that much in anyone right now, but Bradley would make sense there. Actually maybe he wouldn’t just because the Indians don’t seem to want many half-decent outfielders anymore.
badco44
Love the guy… bat is at best about average , but asking for 4-5 years is a real reach…. good luck buddy
MarlinsFanBase
Another guy tied to the Mets?
Cosmo2
They so desperately need a CFr so it makes sense
LarryJ4
Can Ozuna play third lol? Put Ozuna at third, Braves sign Bradley to play OF and they’re good to go.
Mrtwotone
Yeah, believe it or not Marcell Ozuna put up great DRS numbers at third in the American legion league, he finished in second place for the prestigious scrap metal glove award only because of Bubba “Dip spit” Johnson’s incredible work with the glove last year. It was a snub if you ask me. Nobody will ever forget that beautiful diving stop made by Ozuna on that barreled 59.3mph grounder!
derailers54
Just bring back lagares
Rsox
Lagares signed with the Angels
SG
Don’t see JBJ back in Boston unless its on a 1 or 2 year deal for short money. Don’t think that’s likely.
Think SF is perfect for him with that huge ballpark.
JBJ’s a premiere defensive CF but with a very mediocre streaky bat.
He has a .239 lifetime MLB BA and a .732 OPS so nothing special.
But he does his job, is a team leader and works hard.
His hitting should get better with time as he crafts his hitting skills and OBP and base stealing abilities but he lacks pure raw natural hitting talents or natural power.
I’d consider platooning him but he doesn’t seem to hit righty’s much better than lefty’s.
VERY STREAKY HITTER that only gets to play every day because of his defensive skills,
padam
Has certainly been an interesting off season for the Mets. While involved in the top two FAs, the FA I thought they needed to sign was Realmuto – someone at a critical position who can help a pitching staff, provide solid defense and hit (McAnn is ok, just hasn’t been consistent or as good as Realmuto). Splash in a couple of relievers and I think the FAs would’ve been set. Wasn’t a fan of them going after Springer or Bauer, but wouldn’t have been disappointed if they did.
The Lindor trade was a good one, but the deal they really needed to focus on is acquiring a CF’er, unless Bradley’s price tag was realistic.
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CF was a bit of a no-win situation for the Mets this offseason unless they signed Springer. Looking around the league, I don’t think there was (or is) an obvious trade opportunity out there for an impact CF – certainly not anything on the level of the Lindor deal.
I’m not enamored with them seemingly just doing what they did last season (with Almora instead of Marisnick) but I think it became the most sensible move once they decided not to sign Springer.
padam
Agreed.
Cohens_Wallet
JBJ is a left handed Lagares that doesn’t get hurt as often as Lagares and has Scott Boras talking him up. 2 year deal at 9 mil tops or I’m good with passing on him.
Sometimes what you want is just not available and your forced to move on.
Cohens_Wallet
@padam I totally agree. Realmuto wasn’t worth his asking price but didn’t get his asking price so that goes out the window.
Only other good reason was saving for other fa’s but didn’t get those either.
Not getting Realmuto looks horrible now… Unless that hip really is a problem
mrmackey
Could signing Bradley set up a deal for a SP now that the Mets lost out on Bauer?
Davis and Smith for Gray and Suarez perhaps? Are the Mets setting up for a larger splash by looking at Bradley? He would definitely get to play to his strength, his D, in Citi.
Dorothy_Mantooth
The Reds will want good, young (and cheap) pitching back in return for Sonny Gray. That deal doesn’t match up with their needs.
mrmackey
It helps them reduce payroll, which definitely seems to be what they want to do as much as anything else.
I suppose maybe Peterson could get involved.
Doesn’t have to be the Reds either, although there have been Sonny Gray rumors associated with the Mets.
A Bradley signing could free up Smith or Alonso, and I could just see it leading to a deal for a SP.
Rsox
Dom Smith does nothing for the Reds with no DH, Votto at 1B, and a full OF. Davis doesn’t really do much either as any trade of Suarez moves Moustakas back to 3B
RobM
Davis and Smith don’t really fit the Reds needs, but more importantly, Davis and Smith won’t land Gray or Suarez, let alone both. Davis is so weak in the field that he gives back quite a bit of his offensive value. Smith is a solid fielder at 1B, but nowhere else. If any team needs the Universal DH it’s the Mets. Still a problem though because they have multiple players who should be DHing.
Barkerboy
Bradley is on his way to…bam bam…Houston. Book it.
terry g
I don’t see JBJ getting longer than a two year deal and maybe not even that at this point.
EasternLeagueVeteran
I think Boras may have misplayed his hand. JBJ may still get to Houston, but now Houston can sit on a smaller offer and wont be in much of a bidding war. I cant see the Red Sox going in to the extent rhe
EasternLeagueVeteran
The Mets would have. Wildcard will be the Giants.
dennymagnet
Where’s the Nimmo love? He’s got skills good Obp some pop…..
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I don’t think anyone’s disputing that Nimmo is a solid offensive player, he’s just badly miscast as a starting CF.
RobM
He should not be in CF. Likely ok in LF. Their OFers can hit, but defensively they’re the worst unit in the majors. One of the reasons the Mets underperform their projections is related to their substandard OF defense, particularly in CF.
jvent
JD Davis, Mauricio,Nimmo,Gsellman and Lucchesi to the Reds for Suarez and Luis Castillo. Mets OF, Smith,Almora and Conforto Inf- Alonso,McNeil Lindor Suarez and McCann
Rotation DeGrom,Carrasco,Stroman,Peterson and Castillo
theodore glass
That trade won’t get it done.
Orel Saxhiser
It’s Metsfan22 in disguise. He’s been floating a version o fthat ridiculous trade package for a month. The difference is that he has now added Lucchesi to junk like Davis, Gsellman, and Nimmo.
RobM
I don’t know who it is, but they’re very bad at player evaluations.
MetsFan22
Are you making things up now?
Cosmo2
I don’t get including Gsellman, he adds nothing, what’s the point?
hawkvet
JBJ would be a better upgrade in CF for the Mets
mcmillankmm
I can’t see him getting 4 years…maybe a 1 year with an option for a second
jim stem
Could just be a bargaining tool (Almora) to drive down Bradley’s Agent’s demands. There is certainly roster space and budget room for both.
RobM
Doesn’t seem that would be effective as there’s reportedly a half a dozen teams in on Bradley.
DarkSide830
yeah id imagine Almora’s deal being cheap on guarantees means they can get rid of him if need be.
scooper
Give Jackie 4/40 and get this outfield set for the future. If the season proves unsuccessful you can always trade him (though I wouldn’t) because he drastically helps the pitching with his elite defense. You can also bring up Duran and having JBJ teaching him and Verdugo how to play in Boston. Trade Benny if needed and you’ll have the best defense ever! I also think he is settled in and going to be much better at the plate moving forward. Don’t give up on him!
butch779988
No
seamaholic 2
Mets are gonna sign Bradley too. You can see this a mile away. They’re building up OF depth to see if someone wants to trade them a starting pitcher for a package built around Nimmo or Smith.
Red Sox have been out on him a long time. Giants are way too smart to sign a lefty fly ball hitter like JBJ. Horrible fit for their park. And the Astros are broke.
PitcherMeRolling
@seam Why would the Mets trade from a position where they lack depth for a position where they have good depth?
PitcherMeRolling
I think anything over 3 years/$30M with a 4th year mutual option around $12M or a player option between $8M-10M is shortsighted from the Mets standpoint.
Don’t get me wrong, I think signing Bradley would benefit their defense at every OF position. Bradley Jr in CF is better than Nimmo, Nimmo in RF is better than Conforto and Conforto in LF is much better than Davis or Smith. Also, it’s just easier to watch when your team has fewer defensive liabilities.
The tradeoff is putting Bradley’s mediocre bat in the lineup instead of Smith or Davis, if there’s no DH. Other potential issues are spending a decent amount on a player that is likely to begin regressing soon(speed is one of the first things to go, which is anathema for CFs) and locking up CF so that it’s unlikely that more significant improvements can be made there for some years. If Bradley loses a step and continues to have a below average bat, he’s just not that valuable.
Flyby
it would be between bradley jr, smith, alonso, and nimmo. None of those 4 play 3rd base so Davis is unaffected unless we get another 3rd baseman.
Tom1968
If todd frazier is still unsigned make him an offer….local guy,likes it here,fans like him,…
leftcoast11 - pyramidsuccess
Lagares didn’t work for low digits so Bradley’s the answer with his stick on a multi yr deal?Sounds desperate!
Orel Saxhiser
Patience. They will trade Almora-plus for Lagares at the trade deadline. Almora reunites with Maddon, Lagares returns to the Mets so they can give out those leftover bobbleheads from 2015.
Dan Hunter
JBJ just signed with Mets.
Orel Saxhiser
Bob Nightengale, is that you?
Dan Hunter
No
Jackie Bradley.
Cap & Crunch
I like the Almora deal, dont glorify a 26 man spot with JBJ…..rather see them put the relatively same AAv into Rosenthal on a shorter term contract and I dont even like Rosenthal
A Turner deal going back where it all began would make a lot of sense as well – 3/42 straight probably lands him today
Id even be all for putting the cash into Porcello+ JWilson rather than JBJ on some short term deals
Bruin1012
Watched Jackie Bradley since he was a rookie. He is so frustrating his swing looks good he keeps his head down should be a better contact hitter. Here is the issue with JBJ he thinks he is a power hitter and swings out of his shorts most times rolls over the ball and hits weak grounders into the shift. He hits weak grounders in to the shift so much it is amazing. Someone earlier in the comment link said he he is a fly ball hitter I think it was semaholic anyway no he isn’t a fly ball hitter he is a ground ball hitter. There is one thing that he seemed to do last year he went the other way that is the key to hitting for him when he hits well he doesn’t try and pull everything. He has some pop but he is far better off going the other way.
DCartrow
Well I saw Jackie Bradley walkin’ in Queens…..doin’ the werewolves of London.
mrmet1986
I think JBJ fit in the Mets outfield, Nimmo in the LF, Smith in the first baseman, and Alfonso in the DH. Mets will be able to re-sign JBJ, about 3/30M.
JLinTexas
I’d like to see Bradley in Houston, but he’d probably put them over the CBT this year. They should have plenty of money next year though with Verlander and Greinke coming off the books. If they can’t get JBJ, I’d be just as happy to see Marisnick back out there over Straw.
64' Yanks
Too bad the Yankees do not pick him up and move Hicks.
Spare Tire Dixon
As great as JBJ is, I can see teams in this economic climate thinking Brett Gardner is a good alternative on a one-year deal.