The stalemate between the Yankees and DJ LeMahieu isn’t showing any signs of ending, and it may have opened the door for other teams to re-enter the hunt. According to Yahoo Sports’ Tim Brown, LeMahieu has “asked his representatives to re-engage with teams that have previously shown the most interest…and to reconnect with teams that reached out early in the free agent period.”
This group includes at least six teams — the Blue Jays, Braves, Cardinals, Dodgers, Mets, and Red Sox. The Astros and (maybe?) the Nationals were also linked to LeMahieu earlier this winter, so it’s fair to assume some new calls may have been placed to those teams. Of the six clubs cited, it was already known that the Mets, Dodgers, and Jays were in on LeMahieu, with Toronto mentioned as the batting champion’s most fervent suitor apart from the Yankees.
This is the first time, however, that the Red Sox, Braves, and Cardinals have been linked to LeMahieu, opening up an intriguing new set of possibilities. All three teams were among those who had the early interest in LeMahieu, however, so it could be that those were simply due diligence check-ins, or plans may have changed as the winter market has developed. That said, due to some feeling earlier in the offseason that a LeMahieu/Yankees reunion was inevitable, more teams may now make a more serious push if they have a sense that LeMahieu may actually sign elsewhere.
Not much seems to have changed with LeMahieu’s asking price, as Brown reports that LeMahieu is looking for “at least” five years and $110MM. Previous reports indicated a similar price from LeMahieu’s camp, with the Yankees’ top offer apparently falling short by more than $25MM. The Cardinals may not be willing to spend much this offseason. The Braves could be in somewhat of the same situation after already investing in Charlie Morton and Drew Smyly, though Atlanta has a lot of salary coming off the books following the 2021 season. Boston has the spending capacity but the team wasn’t thought to be shopping at the top of the free agent market this winter, in part because signing a qualifying offer-rejecting free agent like LeMahieu would cost a draft pick.
The acquisition of Francisco Lindor might also take the Mets out of the LeMahieu hunt, and longtime Dodger Justin Turner has been cited as Los Angeles’ top choice to handle third base (even if Turner’s ask for a four-year contract is very likely to go unfulfilled). It isn’t known what Toronto’s top offer to LeMahieu is or was, but since the Jays are reportedly willing to give a similar contract to George Springer, they could pivot by putting that offer on the table for LeMahieu.
Several virtual meetings are planned between LeMahieu and various teams over the coming week, Brown writes, so we could have more clarity on the All-Star’s situation soon. At this juncture, it’s hard to say where LeMahieu might end up, or if perhaps other mystery teams could emerge. Of course, LeMahieu could also wind up with the Yankees after all, if New York feels it needs to increase its offer in response to any additional pressure from one or more clubs.
Dodgers gotta be a shoo-in for him now, although it would make Lux expendable.
Lux could go to Colorado as part of a Arenado trade.
I don’t think dodgers are looking to add 50+ million to there already 190 million salary team to add both. Unless of course Colorado would take back pollock and price.
Dodgers could add 150 million dollars in salary they got more money than Fort Knox
With as much money as the Dodgers have coming off their books at the end of this year, they could add they and take the one year hit above the salary tax threshold and be below the luxury tax next year
Rockies aren’t trading him in division and he’s not worth the dough his #’s outside Coors aren’t great good not worth that $
Not true. That money comes off the books in the form of Seager and Kershaw which leaves gaping holes at SS and the top end of the rotation that will have to be filled. Add that Buehler and Bellinger will be hitting major pay raises through arbitration and it’s not nearly as simple as saying the team takes a one year hit on the luxury tax. Taking on LeMahieu and Arenado at close to $55M per season for all intents and purposes taking the team out of extensions for maybe all three of Seager, Bellinger, and Buehler.
After January 20th I’d agree.
Rockies’ players get screwed by their away numbers for 2 reasons.
1. Travelling from altitude to sea level is hard on the body. It’s something only Rockies players deal with on a regular basis.
2. Adjusting to breaking balls that simply don’t break as much at Coors to going on the road and facing balls that break significantly more is no easy task. Rockies players deal with this all year long.
OPS+ and wRC+ take away for a players production at Coors(rightfully so), but there is no mechanism for adding to a Rockies away numbers who face challenges on the road that no other mlb player does.
I would say looking at most Rockies players over the long term you would have to add .30 to 50 points to a guys away .OPS…sometimes more depending on the player.
The way that the CBA works in MLB, the Dodgers would get killed in taxes by repeatedly going over the luxury tax threshold. The days of the Yankees outspending everyone by $100M every year are gone.
The Dodgers have $50M in salary coming off the books next yr. w/ Kenley & Kershaw. I wouldn’t expect Kenley to be back, but LA will likely re-sign Kersh for a hometown discount. BUT then Seager is up, & he’s rep’d by Boras & in the prime of his career, so you know he’s not giving a discount. He’s prob going to ask for Machado-type money. If so, those savings from Kersh & Kenley will evaporate pretty quickly.
Assuming LA re-signs Seager, a trade for Arenado or signing DJ (for his requested 5 yr. $125M) makes it difficult to keep LA’s current young players when they come up for free agency. Between Betts, Seager (again, assuming he re-signs), & Arenado or DJ, LA would be committing $85M-$90M for at least the next 5 yrs to just 3 guys. The problem is that during the next 3 yrs., guys like Bellinger, Urias, & Buehler will become free agents. In 2 yrs., what would you rather spend your money on, keeping young stars who are still in their prime or paying vets who are in their mid-30’s. Friedman is smart enough to know he’d rather spend on the former.
I think Dodgers would rather have 6 years of Lux at his earning potential than Nolan at his contract rate. They still have 3 major extensions on the horizon, and retaining prime Seater / Bellinger / Buehler is going to take priority over taking on a post-30 Arenado contract at full price.
Nobody is going to take on all of Arenado’s contract in trade. It’s $40-50M under water. That’s roughly how much cash it would take to equalize it with the market.
Or to the Reds for Suarez
Or they could trade Lux for Mike Trout.
(Oh boy help me with this one)
Oh sure. It automatically has to include the Dodgers. The world doesn’t revolve unless everything has to do with Los Angeles in some capacity.
Yep! That’s right!!
i dont know why it doesnt even matter if they dont have a clear need. i mean people said they would get Lindor with no clear place to move Seager. absurd.
One of the funnier articles I’ve read from Boston writers recently, was the suggestion that the RS should’ve made the Lindor trade.
The writer went on to say the Lindor was a good fit for the RS, ‘as long as he was willing to change positions’.
Aside from the absurdity of asking a GG SS to change positions to a lesser challenging position, the very idea of someone being a good fit, but not having a position for him, was ludicrous.
Marty McGravy! One hundred jigga-guts!
So they get DJ and they are de-Lux.
I hoe the Redsox fans aren’t holding their breath over DJL coming to Boston.
Chaim is too busy scouring the Uruguayan League waive wire to be dabbling with actual quality major league players who may make a difference.. Seems like an obvious bluff by DJ’s camp to force NYY’s hand.
I kind of agree with you. Do SOMETHING, Bloom…
I kind of expect Bloom to be involved just enough to raise the cost to the Yankees. Ultimately, this to me is just a tactic to get his price up. If not in the Bronx though, I see him signing only with LA.
“Uruguayan”! HAHAHAHAHAHA! You are SO clever and funny! Where’s the unfunny movie quote? HOW will you get the attention that you desperately need WITHOUT the unfunny movie quote!
Calm down Junior. Come upstairs, cookies are ready.
I was being sarcastic, but Bloom needs to get some quality pitching.
I think there’s zero chance, if the Sox dish out a 9-figure contract it will be for a starting pitcher next offseason.
They can dip their toes in the water drive up the price. They need pitching. He is a waste of resources, for the Yanks too. They need pitching too, although not nearly as badly. If they sign DJ it’ll be like Stanton. Putting your money in the wrong place when you are on a budget. The budget is 4 times the payroll of some other teams, but still a budget.
I wouldn’t put DJL and Stanton in the same category. I think you’re saying they are both basically a luxury, but I don’t see DJL as that. DJL was important in the lineup as he actually gets on base and can play multiple positions in the field at or above average. Stanton was pointless when they traded for him and never made sense. They didn’t need his production on offense and they already had a crowded outfield. They flat out misspent that money when it should have been put towards pitching. They didn’t need more HRs, strikeouts or players on the IL.
That is what I am saying. I am also saying that if you have financial constraints you need to focus on the true needs and depth. They can easily get away with not re signing DJ. Pitching should be 100% their focus. Not a Yanks fan so I say go get DJ. It’s worked so far, for other teams that is.
Rather the jays sign him, a relief pitcher, JBJ and trade catching prospect and some others for a good starter
Jays would be wise to publicly remove themselves from consideration, he’s obviously just using them against the Yankees and doesn’t want to sign in Toronto.
It’s hilarious how all the jays fans are mad because the jays aren’t getting these free agents. THEY DONT WANT TO GO TO TORONTO get it through your heads. And you have to overpay them with money and term that’s a good way to get stuck with crappy contracts.
I agree DJ is using the Jays as only leverage against the Yanks, but it’s also in the Jays best interest to make the Yankees pay as much as possible for him. But yeah, nobody is going to Toronto unless they overpay. Unfair but is what it is…
This is the way
Plus they’d have to live in Canada. Major sticking point.
What’s wrong with Canada? Last I checked it looked a lot closer to the American Dream than Murica.
The Yankees should pay the guy what he wants if they truly want him. They don’t have a lot of options to fill behind second. I hear some yanks fans want didi I’m not a fan of how his defense is at short. Plus dj is your type of hitter you can’t shift on and will hit over 300 every year. Boston won’t really spend and they have a good young guys to play still. The blue jays have great talent as well. In today’s game it’s all about pitching.
Tiger_diesel92 Why cave to LeMahieu’s demands now if the Yankees feel their bidding against themselves? Almost every team is being cheaper then usual this offseason, and the Mets already got Lindor. It sounds like Toronto’s current priority is Springer. Dodgers are a threat but how far are they really willing to go to sign him?
That’s a good way to never win. Pay the players what they want each negotiation lol. Scott Boras would love negotiating against you. Well hes good! Let’s pay him!!! All the money.
Spend the money on pitching
What pitching. Other than Bauer there isn’t really a top of rotation starter available.
Even a solid mid rotation arm like Odorizzi would bring a lot of stability to a rotation that has major question marks beyond Cole. I can’t understand why they aren’t making more of an effort to bring Tanaka back, as he was quite good last season and has as high upside as just about anyone on the market besides Bauer. The Yanks need to prioritize starting pitching before all else, even LeMahieu.
HBan22:
I completely agree about Tanaka, but there are caveats. The problem, I think, is Tanaka’s elbow. Without that concern, I think he should be the Yanks priority. That said, he should also be high on the list of other teams in need of pitching. That he seems to be kind of an afterthought concerns me that teams, including the Yankees, think, or possibly know, that the elbow makes him a risky proposition.
I think, if he’s healthy, he could help almost every team in MLB. But teams might be fearful, if they gave him any kind of contract, it might be money down the drain if the elbow gives out.
Keep in mind he was a sub 800 ops guy in Colorado
True true.. except that year he won the batting title
He’s actually always had really good underlying stats even with Colorado, it just hadn’t translated as well until he was with New York.
Last 5 years: .320/.376/..473
In my opinion, if the Jays somehow can’t get Springer or if the stalemate between LeMahieu and the Yankees continue, this would provide a perfect opportunity for Toronto to seize the moment and sign him right there and then.
Not to mention, as LeMahieu is seeking a $100,000,000 deal, the Jays could offer the same exact amount of money they’re offering Springer (~$115,000,000).
Despite all of the jokes about Toronto constantly being in on every free agent but never signing any of them, I feel like at this point that it’s inevitable that they come away with one of Bauer, LeMahieu, Springer or Realmuto. They are one of the few teams actually willing to spend this offseason, and after the flurry of moves by other teams, it’s left the “big 4” free agents with very few remaining suitors, or so it seems anyway.
Yankee fans are going to be smoking hot on sports radio in NY tomorrow. Mets introducing Lindor and good old Hal Steinbrenner is nickel and dimeing the one player the fans want back. I can’t see the Yankees dropping the ball on this one could they?
NY sports radio going to be hot tomorrow. Let’s see the Mets introducing Lindor at 11a.m. while Brian Cashman and Hal Steinbrenner low ball the only player Yankee fans insist they want back. They couldn’t drop the ball on this one, could they?
Uhhh do you require maintenance?
This response doesn’t make any sense. Why are you so emotional?
Mets should just go for it and sign LeMahieu too.
I thought they might pivot from springer and sign DJ for cheaper and plug him in at 3b
You can get him and JBJ for Springer money then trade Davis and Nimmo for Castillo
Let him go.
DJ is completely unnecessary.
That 20+ mil AAV could cover one of the many capable available infielders & rebuild the pen. Probably have some money left over from that even.
I have no idea how he’s become some kind of “must have” for the Yanks, man.
He’ll be 33 next season. His defense is regressing. He’s losing sprint speed. He was on the IL last summer. Second basemen have a long history of sudden & unpalatable decline.
And…did I somehow miss him leading us to a World Series victory?
He’s not irreplaceable. At all. And he won’t be nearly as good anywhere else.
Spread that money around. He’s just simply not good enough to be highjacking our entire off-season. He doesn’t like our offer?
No problem. I’d be on the phone with the agents for Wong/LaStella/Hernandez weeks ago.
In this market I wouldn’t have even made him any offer at all, quite frankly.
Sounds a lot like you’re trying to convince yourself these things.
Absolutely not.
I’ve been advocating to invest that 20+ mil in multiple players the entire off-season.
More so as a reflection of the strengths of this free agent class (bullpen, infield) than anything.
But the flaws I cited are all very real, as well.
You’re 100% correct.
Well…I mean, it was bound to happen sometime, right?
But, the Yanks have multiple needs; a middle infielder, the pen is now middling, & the rotation is a mess.
I’d much rather have say Wong + Rosenthal + Melancon than DJ. The funds earmarked for him can acquire a serviceable (albeit not as sexy) replacement & turn the pen back into a force.
Then figure out the rotation.
You’re spot on Ducky. I’ve been saying the same thing the entire offseason. It’s starting to look like more and more Yankees fans are finally realizing that as much as it’d be nice to have DJ back, he should not be a priority.
Their rotation is a joke right now. That’s where I’d start by plugging in a 3/4 guy like Quintana or Odorizzi to add SOME stability, then pivot to Bradley to stabilize the pen and an affordable defensive SS.
This offense is fully capable of scoring runs with or without DJ. Yeah, they’ve been injured constantly but that’s not a reason to bid against themselves and cave to a high price tag for a not-young 2B.
Our specifics differ but we’re taking the same approach. Namely, 20+ mil can address multiple spots. That’s really the strength of the ’20 free agent market; depth.
I don’t think the Yanks can raise their ceiling this off-season unless they dip into the proverbial stupid money fund. But…we *can* raise our floor.
I’d go back to having an overengineered lineup & pen. Try to cobble together an average rotation. We know that formula can lead to at the very least a deep playoff run.
& then we do still have Cole. A pitcher like him can damn near carry you through the playoffs by himself.
But there are all kinds of interesting permutations of $20 mil that would help the Yanks more than simply a second basemen.
I’m not down on DJ.
Very good player.
But I’ll bet nickels to Navy beans – or whatever – that the Yankees just got the best two years of his career.
Call it a win.
Move on to building ’21’s squad.
Sounds like you had a tough childhood. Probably no one laughing at how unfunny you are.
You’re a real big meanie @lolzmets.
Just because I was raised by wolves doesn’t make it ok for you to pick on me about it.
🙁
#lolzmetsisawolf-boyist
#aaarwwhooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo
I think DJ’s biggest value to the Yankees is the way he fits with the rest of the lineup. He’s a completely different type of hitter then pretty much everyone else they have and really helps balance the swing and miss power bats. But yeah, I don’t think he’s worth 5/120 or whatever either.
& I’m not insensitive to that, @bush1.
Yet, LaStella & Wong would bring a different style of hitting (& handedness) to the lineup, as well. Not at DJ’s level. But they’d be competent. Especially in the Yanks offense.
Hey…in my perfect off-season the Yankees bring back DJ & Hiro, sign Bauer, Hand, & Hendricks. Ya know? Maybe toss a Kluber or whatnot in there too. How about a JBJ as 4th outfielder. Trust me. I can spend money.
Not my loot, uh?
That’s just simply not realistic, however.
Yeah, it seems the Yankees are trying to sign DJ and remain under the luxury tax. So anything over $20 mill makes it next to impossible. Not too mention they have obvious rotation needs. I think it’s a massive downgrade going to LaStella and JBJ doesn’t help with their contact needs. Their lineup really needs DJ, especially in the playoffs. Maybe a 6 yr deal at a lower salary? But they’re not going over for the luxury tax for a 3rd time. No other team has done that yet.
You don’t think LeMahieu is worth 5/120 even though he has been the Yankees best player each of 2019 and 2020. He hit .364/.421/.590 last year. No one else was even close. Do you think Stanton, who never plays, is worth his 10/300+ deal?
First, “never” is a really big number. In ’18 Stanton carried the Yanks down the stretch.
Not sure if you caught his performance in this past postseason but I would certainly qualify that as “playing”.
Stanton AAV = 22 mil.
In 11 seasons Stanton has never posted an OPS+ below 118.
In 10 seasons LeMahieu has posted an OPS above 100 a mere three times.
Anyway, completely different situations & players.
And, hell nah.
22 mil in this market would plug a lot of leaks in the boat, man. Wouldn’t come close to that number.
Yeah DJ has been their best player but they’re bidding against themselves. Plus you don’t pay for the past, you pay for the future and he’s getting up there in age. Also, of course it would be better than Stantons deal. That deal looks ridiculous now, and may be the worst contract in all of sports. So not a great comparison, and it’s probably making the Yanks be more careful because it’s so bad right now
Chris Davis would like a word with you about worst contracts. Though Stanton is fragile and overpaid, he does provide value. When he’s on and hitting well, he can carry a team. He showed what he’s capable of in the playoffs. All that said, he’s virtually untraceable and will be a Yankee for a long time.
Simmons would be a better target for the Yankees than any of those guys.
Ducky:
In all fairness, the failure of LeMahieu to help bring a WS title to the NYYs, is shared by a number of other guys like Cole, Judge, Stanton, and all the others considered to be key to the Yankee’s.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t totally disagree that the Yankees money, that would be necessary to re-sign LeMahieu, might be spent in better ways. And then again it might not. Two guys for the same price, is not necessarily a better solution, than one really good player. I really don’t know, but it is undeniable that LeMahieu is a very good player, and one of the top FAs available. So is letting him go to a division rival a good thing?
One thing I do know for sure is no one knows whether it is in the Yanks best interest to re-sign LeMahieu, or whether it’s better to let him walk. And does it matter whether he goes to a division rival, like the Jays, or to some team, like the Mets in the other league
Touche’.
I didn’t necessarily mean to lay that entirely on DJ. That’s quite uncharitable. Heck, he had a big knock go to waste in Game 6 of the ’19 LCS.
Rather, I’m just intimating that he hasn’t exactly shown to be the “straw that stirs the drink” or whatever.
Ya know?
Normally, I prefer to shop high end. I’m typically a quality > quantity kinda fella. But this year’s market is different. It is extremely deep & seems to be rather depressed economically. This year I’m advocating for a different approach than I normally do. Which is focusing more on a volume of acquisitions.
*Where* he goes should be of little concern to the Yanks in this. He’s a perfect hitting fit for The Stadium (which is part of his allure to be sure). I really don’t see his numbers being as good anywhere else.
Yeah.
None of us are clairvoyant. Well…I’m certainly not. I’m just a dude on the internet.
But I think all teams should be playing the strengths of the market. Not just the Yankees. This isn’t a market to try & add star power. Lots of good players. Not much elite talent, though.
I think the Yankees are wise to keep the offer at 75 over 4 years and not budge. Frankly I would offered slightly less (around 70) but it’s a fair offer.
I’ll also agree with you, at some point I would pivot and target Wong who is the best free agent no one is talking about. I’m a Cub fan and I hated every time this guy stood inside the batters box. If the game was close and there was a runner on, you can pretty much guarantee he was plating a runner. Any other time he just wore your pitcher out with foul balls. On top of that, he is the best second base defender in the game.
LaStella, all the guy has done is hit but his defense is really bad at second and his arm isn’t strong enough to play third consistently.
Did the Yankees forget he has been their best player the past two seasons?
I’m guessing no but they’re probably scared to pay someone at his age long term after dealing with the disaster of a contract with Stanton
I cannot confirm or deny these reports, but there’s no chance the Cardinals are going to pay him what he wants.
As a Cardinals fan please and to get the biggest bidder out of the way Yankees sign Andrelton Simmons 1 years move gleyber to 2nd premanitely then go after next yours FA SS
Doubt the Braves will fork out the money although I would love DJ on our team
I would love to see them trade for Jose Ramirez, now that Cleveland has started unloading pieces. The cost would be steep, but that guy is special.
Spare Tire Dixon:
No way the Braves are trading for Ramirez without spending way more than they want to in player/prospect capital.
Yes, Cleveland is unloading pieces to shed salary, but why would they trade a guy that is not only cheap, but one of, if not their best, position player.
Yeah, you can trade for Ramirez, but it’s going to cost big time, more than the Braves will want to spend.
Play 3rd I guess right?
I could see the money being done, but I don’t really know where he’d play? I guess 3rd, but I didn’t know he was a 3b.
I’ll file this one under “due diligence”.
Did his agent write this? Or, is this just another example of the fake news helping get their buddies more dollars?
Did his agent write this? Or, is this just another example of the fake news helping get their buddies more dollars?
Shut up
If we have to sort through your dreck then you have to read his. How about one of those HILARIOUS movie quotes?
You first Tom.
No really, you first.
Never has an offseason been this super exciting, and yet still infuriatingly boring for most teams and fanbases.
Nothing would make me laugh more than him going to Boston
The Red Sox had the worst pitching staff of my lifetime in 2020.
They didn’t want to spend $15 MM for ONE season of Charlie Morton (who would be their #1 or #2 starter in 2021).
Their current 2nd baseman, Michael Chavis, has several years of team control.
The Red Sox have a weak farm system, but their best prospect is Jeter Downs, who is a second baseman.
Their first round pick in 2020 was a 2nd baseman (Nick Yorke).
There is absolutely NO CHANCE that they give out $100,000,000 to a 2nd baseman, in the middle of a pandemic, when the market is depressed.
That is all.
I think if you had $15m from Boston and $15m from Atlanta in front of Morton he’s gonna take Atlanta each time, closer to home.
If Michael Chavis is the starting 2b in 21 than something has gone drastically wrong. Guy is a 4A spare part at best. Arauz offers more and he’s a bum too.
Do you even follow baseball?
Chavis also has a .728 OPS at the major league level. Downs was one of the headliners of the Mookie Betts deal. Yorke was a first round pick, but was a well under-slot pick.
Red Sox are saving their money to sign MOOKIE in the 2030 free agency
I don’t think an AAV of $22m is out of line really. I’m surprised a team hasn’t met it. He makes any team better.
It’s all about age. Nobody wants a long term contract for a player’s mid to late 30s anymore.
Teams I’m sure have met $22 AAV. But he wants more. Bring in the Yankees.
jason – per the article: “Not much seems to have changed with LeMahieu’s asking price, as Brown reports that LeMahieu is looking for “at least” five years and $110MM.”.
I would think that if the right team offered that, he would take it. In the current environment, he would be wise to take it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s been offered 4/$88 or thereabouts, it’s the extra year and the extra $22M or so that’s the tricky part.
Springer might just wait himself out of millions of dollars. Every time a team commits big to someone else it probably lessens his market demand.
I’ve been saying this for a while, why is Boston not in the conversation about Lemahieu? Worse case, it will increase his price tag for the Yankees to pay more….best case, we have him for $100/5….
Because they have more pressing long term concerns than an aged 2b.
I actually think the Yanks would be wise to pivot to Andrelton Simmons or Marcus Semien on a 1 year deal, and take a run at a younger big name SS next offseason (Correa, Story etc.). This would shift Gleybar Torres to 2B were he fits better defensively.
For this offseason, they could use DJ money for a mid rotation arm and a solid UT guy like Kike Hernandez…
Are you talking about the New York Yankees?
Yankees are really about to lose him.
It’s 2021 so I’m not taking the word of some clown from Yahoo Sports of all places. Everyone with a brain sees this as a tactic to get the Yankees to increase their offer
Yeah I’m sure 20 year baseball writer Tim Brown who has written actual books [the ankiel one was particular good IMO] is losing sleep cause RONK49472837 sees right thru him.
Is this Tim Brown’s burner account?
Everybody can see right through you! Just an attention-seeking sea of not funny.
Tom, why so serious? Find an unfunny movie quote for us. We promise to laugh this time.
5 yrs 90 mil
5 yrs 90 mil
5 yrs 90 mil
5 yrs 90 mil
5 yrs 90 mil
@eddiev2 –
So…is your prediction 5 yrs 90 mil, or what?
He will re-sign with NY and Turner will go back to LA.
LaMahieu 4 years with a club option on the fifth, Turner 2 with a club option on the third year. The question is on what team.
I was reading an article earlier that said Michael Kay was not happy with how the Yankees are handling this. He said to put your offer on the table as take it or leave it at this stage. If he refuses, move on. I highly agree with him.
Most of the column was wrong, as it should be with Kay, but he was right in that regard. Give DJ the number, and give him a deadline. I’d also tell him that we’ll considering countering any legitimate offer he has from other teams, but I’d also tell him that the off-season moves on, with or without him.
Time for the Yankees to sign Jed Lowrie to a make-good deal minor league deal with an invitation to spring trainjng. and hope he rebounds. That would tweak the Mets fans if it panned put.
Better yet. bring back Didi, and spend more cash on starting pitching. .
Jed Lowrie.
The guy you & I are tied with for career base hits with the Mets.
There is at least one advantage to being a Braves fan with some history behind it. You know that the days of the Braves landing someone like DJL has been over for some time. It’s not always bad though. The Braves are unlikely to get stuck with a Pujols type contract.
I’m sure the Braves have got to be thinking of a extension for Freeman. I doubt the bring in DJLM and pay him a higher AAV salary than Freeman.
Certainly. And I certainly prefer locking up Freeman to landing DJLM on a multi year deal we get to regret the last 3 years of a 5 year deal.
Nobodies going over 4/100 –
My offer tomorrow is 4/95 w a 5 mill buyout yr 5 – Take it or leave it
Ironically thats my same offer for Springer
John Mozeliak,
If you were going to spend on a 2B, PICK UP KOLTEN WONG’S INEXPENSIVE OPTION.
That is all.
really? hmm…let’s see, DJ LeMahieu or Kolten Wong? oh, I’ll take Kolten Wong, please…
psarg’s point is there is no way the Cards FO is going to sign DJL. In fact, if it were possible to have a negative chance of something happening, it would fit here. Wong is value, which is what the STL FO is all about these days.
Or resign Wong for a new multi year contract. Yeah DJ would look great in a Cardinal uniform but cheapo Dewitt won’t go for it.
DJ is worth over twice the money and isnt getting twice what Wong was due in AAV.
You have no way of knowing that. You just make things up and declare them. It’s like reading diarrhea in a comment.
DJ is a very good player but I am not giving anymore than 3 years on a contract. If he wants more then time to cut bait.
oh, he’s just a “very good player”? .364/.421/.590 last season. He’s been the Yankers best player the last two seasons. These are the New York Yankees. Their rivals just signed a big free agent. How can the Yankees lose LeMahieu? its not your money, remember? assuming you are a Yankee fan, how can you not want him back?
yeah, i don’t get people saying he’s mediocre. who cares if they are hitter friendly parks, the guy keeps raking and continues to get better. he was a vital stabilizing factor for NYY the past two years and there is no saying he cant be again.
Guy says very good and you bring up mediocre. Why? What a silly comment from you. Call out someone that DOES say the word mediocre next time.
Lets not forget Yankee stadium is not the only hitter friendly park in the league, Rogers Centre is by far more of a hitters park than a pitchers park!
The whole ALE is hitter friendly.
Spahn with the clueless reply.
First, what is wrong with calling DJL a very good player?
Second, what is wrong with wanting him for 3 years and nothing more?
Third, Jimmer is a Jays fan. Ask Jays fans.
Forth, if you are going to take the name of a Hall of Famer, be at least a very good commenter. You are denigrating the good name and career of Warren Spahn.
I’ll just repeat what I’ve said before: I think Hal has Cashman on a short financial leash and doesn’t really want to bring LeMahieu back because he doesn’t want to pay for him after spending a fortune for Cole and letting Cashman foolishly add Stanton’s massive contract to the payroll. I’m guessing they’ll go for a much cheaper player, a shortstop so they can put Gleyber back at second base. I’m thinking it might be Marcus Semien if they don’t bring Didi back.
I’m very surprised no one is giving the Blue Jays a chance here. They’ve been aggressive all offseason, and on top of that, the reported offer they made for Springer (5/115) sounds like it would be in the ballpark for DJ. My guess is the Mets get Springer, and the Blue Jays get DJ. Blue Jays need an infielder way more than they need an OF.
You are correct. Blue Jays need an INF before an OF. But, no word from the organization as to whether or not they are willing to hand Vlad the keys to 3B again. That would explain the Springer push. The Jays have had a knack for addressing positions they do not need over the last 3 GMs. It would remain consistent with the organization’s philosophy of….well….not sure.
I’m just asking…. what if the NYM sign Bauer, trade Noah for Gleybar ( that would be the meat of the deal, add what you need to) and they NYY sign DJL? That would solve a few needs on both teams wouldn’t it?
Although it would be great to see that young man cleaned up & squared away this is one of the most homerthetop® trade proposals I’ve ever seen. (I get it. I want to trade crappy players for good ones all the time too. Part of being a fan. We all do it sometimes, man)
But, what “need” does a pitcher out with TJS possibly “solve” for the Yankees? Torres is meat. Syndergaard is stale bread. Ya know?
Look, I know Baseball Trade Values is not the end all be all. But check it out sometime. It seems kinda slow but it’s pretty easy to use.
& it helps avoid obvious things like:
Gleyber Torres trade value: 73 mil
Noah Syndergaard trade value: 18.1 mil
I agree there’s no way that trade happens but calling Syndergaard a crappy player is almost just as ridiculous.
JD.. I agree Thor isn’t a crappy player but he has no value ATM. He also seems uncoachable. Maybe he just doesn’t trust the Mets coaches, I don’t know.
Uh.
If you say so, @goat.
An average pitcher (at his best), who’s an absolute prima donna, is incredibly injury prone, & will not pitch this year at all is…a what then?
I don’t think “crappy” is all that far afield.
I’m still good with it.
Over 700 innings of 3.30 ERA ball. I don’t think having an injury history should disqualify actual on field results. Maybe your strictly talking about value moving forward but Syndergaard the player is very far from crappy.
Yeah.
I decided to look up his numbers rather than continue to double down on a perhaps rather dubious take. I have a tendency to do that, uh.
I’ll amend “crappy player” to “crappy return”. That’s disregarding his quite obvious issues in regards to staying on the field. (Which leads me back to questioning his worth…& I start considering the use of the C-word again.)
Fair enough?
I would love DJL to the Cardinals. Then, the Cardinals trade Dejong, Bader, Carpenter, Fowler, C-Mart for Arenado
If DJL isn’t married to The Yankees, shopping other teams may affect Springer’s market as well. I think The Jay7s would be happy with either one, and I don’t think the ask is too much for what they are getting.
DJL is a year older, but he has the skill to earn a Gold Glove at third, and IMO his bat would play better as he ages. IDK if Springer could hold down centre field at age 36, but an AL team would be more attractive to both these guys.
Yanks are going to lose DJ
I would rather lose him than to spend $25mil and then only have 5mil for SPs and a bullpen piece. Yankees hit fine, with or without him…
Hal Steinbrenner needs his DNA checked.
on this one cash, who i can’t stand and beat up all the time is playing it smart. Why negotiate against himself. There is a risk that someone gives DJ over a 100 and 5 years but in this market?
I want DJ back but this is the process.
personally the yanks need SP and a SS, so there is really only room for DJ is luke or gio go…..
Sorry DJ – 5 years is too many years. You deserve to cash in but you get paid for future performance not past performance.
They gave foreign substance man a gadrillion dollars when he had done nothing for them and now they can’t find two nickels for their best performer. Boo hoo.
@whyhayzee –
Can you remind me of why Indian fans hate the Yankees so much. A Cleveland fan explained it to me once. Seeing how it was in regards to something that went back to the 1950’s I pretty much blew it off as unimportant.
Yet it’s crazy how many fan bases of teams most Yankee fans don’t even consider spend so much time being all angry & bitter at the Yanks.
I mean…shouldn’t Cleveland be more concerned about Chicago, Detroit, MN, etc? So weird to me.
Anyway, if you get this thanks for the response.
Ducky.. Exactly. I always find it kinda funny that some of these fans of other teams hate the Yankees so much. I do take it as a compliment though. As Mr. October once said: “They don’t boo nobodies.”
I guess I can understand some of it?
At least the stuff that’s happened in my lifetime. So, although I’ve really no feelings – one way or the other – in regards to teams like Seattle, MN, Atlanta, etc., they certainly do.
& jeeez those fellas can work themselves into a lather over the Yanks.
It’s a by product of having been so good for so long. The Yankees have quite patiently & thoroughly broken just about everyone’s heart at some point in time.
I don’t think Lemahieu will hold up moving forward especially if it’s a five year deal but it will look terrible if he does end up signing with Toronto or Boston for the Yankees. They’re basically allowing a 12 win swing in games for a division rival if he can replicate his success outside of that stadium.
Because of John Mozeliak, president of Cardinals baseball operations, you can count the Cardinals out of the race to sign D. J. Lemahieu. Mozeliak has a history of only signing “low hanging fruit” at over valued prices. He has never landed an impact player off of any years top Free Agents list. And—- he never will !!!
From my perspective LeMahieu makes far more sense to the Jays than Springer. If their reported offer of 5 years at $115 million to Springer is true, I would rather they flip that exact offer to LeMahieu. It is not often you can add the best hitter in baseball to your team and with all the young hitters on the team, having him there would be a huge benefit. I personally do not see Springer adding much to this team and certainly not at the price-point he is pushing to get.
I do not understand the Yankees inability to sign him. But if the Jays can benefit, that works for me.
But how about the fact that the BJs don’t need a 2B, but do need a CF? I’m not a fan of either signing, but the fit is better with Springer, imho.
Why are the Red Sox acting like they’re a small market team.. When we all know they have the money to spend on anyone they want.. They could sign Trevor Bauer.. Marcell Ozuna.. Archie Bradley & Liam Hendriks right now if they wanted too.. Bloom is driving me insane with this “serious interest” BS that’s on everything the Red Sox Post !!!
Why are the Red Sox acting like they’re a small market team.
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Does the fact that the RS will be approximately #3 in payroll impact your thinking at all?
Are you really that dense?
probably count the cardinals out
The Yanks are so cheap I can’t even stand it. They’re trying to pretend they’re the Rays instead of being the evil empire they’re supposed to be.
Ya know…you don’t make being a baseball fan appear to be all that much fun, man.
Let DJL walk, the Cubs are looking to dump salary and pick up prospect. The Yankees should go after Baez to play SS and move Torres back to 2nd, include Hendricks in the deal and send a package with a major league ready prospect or two and a couple minor leaguers to make the package complete. Andujar would also fit with the Cubs as he is controllable for a few years yet.
that would be creative and a bit of a risk. So count Cashman out. However, I like the idea .
Huge Dodger fan here. I’ll believe it when I see in regards to DJ leaving the Yanks. I would LOVE to see him in Dodger Blue, but I think this is just posturing by his agent and him to get every last cent from the Yanks.
For the Dodgers with their 3B issue, I would try to go after either Suarez from the Reds (in a bigger trade to include Luis Castillo) or Jose Ramirez from Cleveland. I don’t feel Kris Bryant is worth the $ nor the return it would take to get him.
When all is said and done, it wouldn’t be a shock to see the team re-sign Justin Turner for maybe a 2 year deal with an option year (if he and his agent lower their demands for a longer length contract).
I agree on all counts. The author has the RS listed, and I am thinking the chance are extremely remote that we sign an aging AS to such a rich contract, with our top prospect being a 2B.
IRT to your Cincy proposal, I’d like something similar for the RS, only targeting Moose (for 2B) nstead of Suarez. I think that would work even better for you. He’s overpriced, of course, but that’s what drives down the price for Castillo. And since you have an opening at 3B, the overprice is offset somewhat by a good fit.
If you added Castillo, would it make any difference whether you had Moose or Turner at 3B?
JoeBrady- I think the Dodgers would play Suarez at 3B and probably let Turner walk. I read the Jays are somewhat interested in JT. I think there would be some sort of platoon at 2B with Lux/Chris Taylor/etc. if that were to occur.
Castillo would fit nicely into the rotation (any rotation, actually). I think LA is fine as far as starters go, but can never have too much pitching.
Your RS could probably get Moose for peanuts now, as the Reds seem to be one of the many teams looking to pare payroll. Are the RS cool with adding $ this offseason?
We could get Moose for less than nothing, but the idea would be to make a play for Castillo, by offering to pick up 100% of Moose’s contract. I figure Moose might be a 2 WAR talent, maybe, making his contract about $34M underwater. We’d need to add some prospect value, but bailing out the $34M should be enough to get Cincy’s attention.
Yeah, the Reds are in sellers mode (as is Cleveland and some other teams. Rather sad that the game is that way now.
Don’t forget, the Reds have Sonny Gray also that they may consider to deal. He’s not a bad plan B (along with Moose Tacos).
I think Bauer is gone, just a matter of where. As much as he is a top of the staff SP, I would rather pass and address multiple needs instead of putting all of your eggs in one basket..
Yeah, the Reds are in sellers mode (as is Cleveland and some other teams. Rather sad that the game is that way now.
Don’t forget, the Reds have Sonny Gray also that they may consider to deal. He’s not a bad plan B (along with Moose Tacos).
I think Bauer is gone, just a matter of where. As much as he is a top of the staff SP, I would rather pass and address multiple needs instead of putting all of your eggs in one basket..
If I was the GM of the Jays….
I would give DJ the 110 million.
I would FRONT load the contract when they have the payroll room by giving 30,30, 26, 14, 10.
The beauty is as the Core gets more expensive (hitting arbitration years) DJ gets cheaper every year. If he is done at age 37 then you cut him loose.
That is how you turn the “window” of opportunity into a “patio door”.
Lastly, you have to pay more for FA to come to Canada. It is what it is.
Let DJ walk….yesssss I know blasphemy!!! Sign Didi for maybe $10m?, move Gleyber to 2b….and sign Bauer !!…
Even though the diff. between DJ and Bauer salary might not be that small..it aint that big….maybe $22M vs. $28-ishM ??? Why doesnt anyone see that we (Yankees) need SP MORE than anything…. RE-signing DJ does not come close to making them a World Series team…SIGNING Bauer makes them instant Big show team!!!! So if they go over their cap with those salaries…are TWO world series worth it over the course of 4 years?
#truth
It’s all about the SP, contact bats and D up the middle. This all elides the genius cashman though
These idiots didn’t sign Gardner yet?
– Sign LeMahieu
– Send some combination of Lux, Ruiz, Gray, Gonsolin to Cleveland for Jose Ramirez. See if they will take Pollock’s contract in that deal, giving Cleveland an OF
C Smith
1B Muncy
2B LeMahieu
SS Seager
3B Ramirez
LF Pollock/Taylor
CF Bellinger
RF Betts
1. Betts, RF (R)
2. Bellinger, CF (L)
3. LeMahieu, 2B (R)
4. Ramirez, 3B (S)
5. Muncy, 1B (L)
6. Seager, SS (L)
7. Smith, C (R)
8. Taylor, LF (R)
Yankees could use another SP or two. LeMahieu has been awesome for them, but I don’t see too much downside in NY getting a SS instead and moving Torres back to 2B. Semien or Gregorius maybe.