The Angels signed Kurt Suzuki this offseason, and with a catching corps of Suzuki, Max Stassi, and Anthony Bemboom, adding an upper-tier backstop “would be a luxury and not a necessity” for the team, FanSided’s Robert Murray writes. However, the Halos have at least checked in on some prominent catchers, including Christian Vazquez of the Red Sox. No deal appears to be close, as the Sox naturally want quite a lot for Vazquez and “there are doubts whether the Red Sox will entertain trading him” whatsoever.
Vazquez is entering his final guaranteed year of the contract extension he signed in March 2018. He’ll earn $6.25MM in 2021, and the Red Sox hold a $7MM club option ($250K buyout) on his services for 2022. It’s a very affordable price for one of the game’s better defensive catchers, not to mention a catcher who has swung an increasingly dangerous bat — Vazquez has hit .278/.327/.472 with 30 homers in 710 plate appearances since the start of the 2019 season. He does turn 31 in August, so the Sox could think about moving him at a high point in his trade value, but the Angels or any suitor would have to step up with a very big offer to get Boston’s attention.
More from the AL East…
- In a press conference announcing his return to the Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles, Masahiro Tanaka implied that he could return to Major League Baseball even before his two-year deal with the Eagles is up. “I feel I have unfinished business in America, and I haven’t given up on that, so they agreed on terms that would keep those options open,” Tanaka said. This could seem to hint at an opt-out clause after the 2021 season, Ken Davidoff of the New York Post notes, and quite possibly a return to the Yankees in 2022. With the Yankees intent on resetting their luxury tax penalty limit this winter, the team opted to spend its resources elsewhere rather than re-sign Tanaka at his desired asking price. Come next offseason, however, the Yankees might well be willing to exceed the tax threshold (and pay only a first-timer penalty fee) in order to acquire Tanaka and other roster upgrades.
- Also from Robert Murray, Blue Jays outfielders Lourdes Gurriel Jr. and Randal Grichuk are drawing trade interest. The addition of George Springer has created a surplus in Toronto’s outfield, with Grichuk seemingly relegated to fourth outfielder duty as Gurriel and Teoscar Hernandez are slated for the corners. It’s safe to guess that Gurriel is the more sought-after player, since Gurriel is over two years younger than Grichuk and has a less-expensive contract — Gurriel is owed $13.4MM through the 2023 season, while Grichuk is owed $29MM. One of the outfielders could be dangled a way of obtaining pitching, since the Jays continue to look for both rotation and bullpen help.
- The Rays were one of the other suitors trying to obtain Jameson Taillon from the Pirates, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports. Taillon ended up traded to the Yankees, and as Topkin points out, the Rays had interest in both Taillon and Corey Kluber, New York’s two main pitching acquisitions of the offseason.
despicable_you
Hey mark, mind hopping over to football rumors for sec?
Rangers29
Yeah, how in the world is that trade not up. Uninspiring to say the least.
DarkSide830
no offense, but they are a tad slow over there on that front
Dodger Dog
They must have forgotten the password
stewartnbuck
The Angels have very little to offer in Trade but would suggest what they do have should be used to trade for pitchers since that dont seem to be signing any free agents
tristpa2
We did sign Quintana.
stewartnbuck
how far do you think Quintana is going to get the Angels. guarantee the Angels dont finish above .500
Halo11Fan
Tristpa2. And instead of slipping Barria into the rotation and spending 8 million on the pen, they added a guy with a 4.24 ERA with the Cubs that last four years. The AL Central is not exactly the den of hitting, why would anyone expect his ERA to be lower in the AL West?
So they took flyers on the starting pitching. Flyers on the bullpen and they are hoping they work out, like they do every year, and they wonder why things don’t work out.
Rangers29
I love the “If you can’t have me, nobody can have me” type thinking from Tanaka. Why help any other team try to win whenever you could just go to another country and play while the Yanks get back under the tax? Sneaky sneaky…
iverbure
Because it limits your value. If other teams and more importantly Yankees think you only want to play for one team why should the team pay you what you’re asking for? Sign with one of their major competitors and beat them in the playoffs, come next November see if they try and lowball you again.
puddles
I would think it was just that he’s comfortable in NY and figured rather than change teams right now he could spend a year close to family during the pandemic and then reevaluate for 2022.
99 Captain Judge
@Rangers29- Masahiro’s favorite song “ I don’t want nobody baby if I can’t have you” lol! Yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tanaka has an opt out in Japan after 2021 to re-join the Yankees. Since the NYY can reset that luxury tax in 2022. So excellent call. Hope all is well.
Scott_11
I’m surprised Grichuk is drawing trade interest.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Grichuk would only return a Julio Teheran (circa 2020) type of pitcher. He’s very close to having zero trade value with that contract.
smuzqwpdmx
There’s every chance the Jays would send money along with Grichuk in order to get a more useful player.
RobM
He has value, but I see him as overpriced. The Blue Jays would perhaps have to pay down part of what he’s owed.
iverbure
He doesn’t have any value whatsoever. If he did every jays fan on here and on twitter wouldn’t be saying he sucks and should be traded.
tjbarnaba
Because all you Jays fans totally know what you’re talking about, right? Lol
Jal179
Agree— Grichuk is a very viable every day OF— preferably RF. I think if the Jays ate 30-35% of his remaining contract cost they’d be able to acquire a quality depth starter.
its_happening
Just as surprising when the Jays extended him and Jays fans applauded it.
jimmertee
Grichuk is not drawing much trade interest, that is just marketing spew from the Sportsnet/Rogers machine. Gurriel Jr is however drawing major trade interest.
As many have said above Grichuk is not worth anything on the open trade market. The Jays would have to eat at least half of his deal in order to move him for a spare part. Grichuk is streaky and he happened to be hot during the limited 2020 season. He could have just as easily gone into the tank for 2020.
Gurriel Jr is the hot commodity. He is still learning how to be a major league player and has middle of the order skills. Even his brother Yuli says he is going to be star. Gurriel Jr is just coming into his maturity now. The only way I would trade him is for a young top of the rotation starter coming back.
deok40
bwaahhaaaaa. well write it in stone. His flesh and blood says he is going to be a star so it must be true. What an idiotic comment but typical from a guy who trashed Bo and said he had a weak core and weak wrists. Do you ever stop with your garbage posts.
jimmertee
Let’s see how much time Bo spends time on the IL in the next 5 years. He will be just average in his play. It is questionable whether he can handle Ss at the MLB level. And yes he has weak wrists and a weak core. Time will show you what I am saying.
deok40
What is amazing is that you actually believe the crap that comes out of your mouth. Being a former scout of your cousin’s tee ball league doesn’t qualify you for anything other than being a blowhard fool.
jimmertee
There is absolutely no reason to ever insult anyone in these pages. Please keep it professional.
DarkSide830
hope to see Masi back. (preferably in Philly in 2022 :))
looiebelongsinthehall
Does his Japan deal have an out clause? He signed for two years.
looiebelongsinthehall
My bad, I just re-read the article and such is hinted at.
steelerbravenation
Grichuk to the Braves ????
iverbure
I’ll pretend to be a jays fan
Yeah sure! No trade backs!
You: but we didn’t agree what you wanted
Jays fan: I said no trade backs.
And that’s how you got stuck with a terrible contract all because you perceived incorrectly that your team most do something when their a perennial powerhouse. Good thing this was just a test.
DTDATL
If Atlanta is gonna take on that kind of money for no production, wouldn’t it make more sense to just go big on Ozuna and trust that the DH is coming soon? Now if they want to go after Gurriel, I’m definitely interested.
steelerbravenation
Rather have Gurriel though
Dunk Dunkington
Sounds like Tanaka will only play for the Yankees or play in Japan.
RobM
Basically. That’s my guess. He has two baseball homes. The Eagles in Japan and the Yankees in the United States, and he remains loyal to both.
bkbk
Nawww, it seems like the market for the second tier is gonna be 1 year show me deal and my bet is he didnt like the idea of moving 2 more times in the US only to go back to japan after.
Id also be surprised if players werent talking about the likely idea that 2022 isnt played. If thats the case then staying on a 1 year deal hoping the market improves and they play again seems even less palatable
mlb1225
I wouldn’t be giving up Gurriel for anything less than a king’s ransom. He’s only 27, owed less than $15 million across the next three seasons and his wRC+ go from 103 to 124 to 135. Plus he’s proved he can handle left field. If you’re trying to build a winning core, this is a guy you want to keep.
Rangers29
Not saying that it would happen, not even saying that I want it to happen nor is it a good trade. But is Framber Valdez for Lourdes a fair swap?
mlb1225
If it doesn’t start with Luis Castillo, then it’s not worth it, imo unless Valdez is coming with some other pieces, and I’m talking about very worthwile pieces like Cristian Javier+ or Forest Whitley.
3Rivers
Hey @mlb1225 (I think you’re a fellow yinzzer).
Anyway, I have a specific question for you, lol.
I know the bucs are looking for quantity/slightly lower ceiling. However, let’s say the Rays offered up Meadows straight up for Taillon
mlb1225
Straight up? I probably wouldn’t take it. I’d much rather have the package that the Pirates got back for Taillon and Musgrove rather than just straight up one-for-one a player like Meadows.
3Rivers
@mlb1225 do you think BC has to yes? Or is it a no because he wants more players?
mlb1225
If he took it I wouldn’t be upset, I just kind of like the packge he got more than if it was just one player straight up.
3Rivers
Thanks for the reply. It’s an interesting question.. I don’t think the Rays would do that, I think theyd think it’s too much to pay for Taillon, but from what you’re saying, Pirates wouldn’t be interested in just one talented player.
It makes sense, but I stuck saying no to that even tho it would clearly be a winning trade for the bucs.
3Rivers
Right right I completely get it, considering where the team stands.
AL34
Hey 3 rivers! I have to ask you a question. You portray Donald Trump as a baby with a pacifier in his mouth. How do you like the current President in the White House? So far he has signed 42 Executive Orders. He had stopped Border Wall Construction when illegal aliens are gathering in mass to illegally cross over during a supposed Covid 19 pandemic. He has stopped the Keystone Pipeline eliminating over 12,000 pipeline jobs and thousands more in support work right down to the small shops in town. He has stopped oil drilling on land, stopped offshore oil drilling which should drive up oil and gas prices in the future. He has approved American Taxpayers Money for abortions overseas. How do you like the job he is doing after one week.
Mlb1971
AL34 – love your comment!!!!!!!!!!!
Doubt you get a response…..
If JB keeps this up we will have a nice big recession this year….fewer jobs and more inflation
DarkSide830
agreed 100%
Vizionaire
why wouldn’t angels go for what they desperately need and beat around bushes trying to get catcher they don’t need and they don’t have tools for? get real! sign a starting pitcher that is better than who we have and sign 2 shut-out bullpen pitchers!
Halo11Fan
I have no Idea what Perry is doing. Like every year, the Angels are dumpster diving the pen, they wont sign one guy let alone two.
Even if the Angels make it to the postseason because their offense comes together and they just pitch enough, they wont go anywhere. You need a great staff or a great bullpen to be expected to succeed in the post season. The best the Angels can hope for is “OK”. And that’s if things go well.
Mazinger31
As an outsider looking in, I can’t help but wonder if the Angels need to rebuild their organization from the ground up. How do you have the best player in MLB for the past decade and only make it to the playoffs once in his whole tenure? I could be completely wrong about this, but it seems like there’s more wrong with the Angels than just ownership/FO issues. It seems like it might be minor league development/scouting/etc., as in the entire organization is basically held together by safety pins, Mike Trout and the occasional big FA signing.
Halo11Fan
They make a lot of unforced errors. This off-season was a perfect example. They lost last year because their bullpen was awful. It was a great free agent relief crop, and they acquire free agent dregs.
Why? They have treated the pen as an after thought for a dozen year.
The A’s outbid them on RPs. The A’s!!!!!
Mazinger31
It reminds me of last offseason which had a stacked SP free agent class and somehow the Angels got none of them and instead gave a huge contract to Anthony Rendon. Now don’t me wrong, Rendon is a great player, but how exactly did signing him to a massive contract help the Angels with their lack of pitching? It seemed bizarre to say the least.
bkbk
This isnt exactly true. First, 3b was actaully historically even worse for the Angel franchise than SP. Youd have to go back to Glaus to the last viable 3b. So that whole was not a luxury.
Its pretty dang simple. If you dont develop a developed farm you wont win, there are no real exceptions.
Dodgers, Astros, Yankees,
The only exception ive seen is there are a few orgs; White Sox, Padres, Rays are good at spotting great prospects VERY early in their development cycle and trading for them. Its still the same idea of having a system.
Ultimately Arte (and the angels biggest flaw is systemic). Arte is cheap at longterm investment. Hes a sales guy that reverse acquired a billboard business, not a builder and the franchise reflects those values. He believes splashy signings win, they dont. They need to really invest and prioritize a develoment and international org.
As an Angel fan the saddest part of the Eppler firing was that they kept John Caprino (or didnt put the baseball ops at the same power level as him).
Give Perry a chance and watch if the Angels grow scouting and dev. That is the only thing that mould fix this historically frustering franchise.
prov356
They don’t need to rebuild. They need pitching.
Halo11Fan
Perry may be able to build a scouting department, but I’m not impressed by this off-season when the Angels had a real chance to win now. Now they are depending on more fliers. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
And you are right about Marketing. I know for a fact that Pujols and Hamilton were marketing moves.
lefty177 3
It sounds like this year he wants to carry 4 catchers on the 25 man roster
SoCalADRL
Starting to think this regime is gonna be like the last. I have no idea what they’re doing and why they’re so afraid to give up prospects to significantly upgrade their rotation. There’s not one starter on the marker (outside Bauer) who will improve the rotation. Nor are they willing to spend on their bullpen. Why do they need to trade for another catcher or 3rd baseman?
99 Captain Judge
It’s nice to see how much Tanaka’s Yankee legacy means to him. If he does have an opt out in his contract after 2021, I can definitely see him eventually rejoining the Yankees if he can stay injury free and stay effective. Masa will be missed in 2021.
oldjaysfan 2
gotta admit mlb.. I love your comments. Think you are one of the most knowledeable on here. Got to agree the Jays IMO w/b crazy to trade Gurriel for anything less than a good starting and young (affordable pitcher). Certainly castiilo fits the bill. To me, if Cinci got him they have a budding all star, a gold glove candidate( he finished second), and a LF who can throw as most cannot. Not to mention he is a 300 hitter and CHEAP! Basically it should be a straightup swap in my view. But pitching is king and Cinci stinks, so, I would include a budding shorstop, Jays # 11 prospect Richard Hidalgo. Failing that I w/b talking to Colorado about Marquez. As for Grichuk, eat 1.5m of his contract per year and he could get a good reiever I guess. Well see
Jal179
MLB is spot on with his assessment of Gurriel. If Gurriel goes it HAS to be for an ace level starter like Castillo.
I think Shatkins fully understand Gurriel’s value and will not part with him. Players like this are how you win playoff series— cost controlled, two way producers who are just entering their primes.
Also, I’d prefer to see the Jays hold onto Teoscar— his ceiling is way too tantalizing to deal right now.
Jays fans need to exercise a bit of patience—their OF core is elite and I don’t want them to sell out an area of strength without having a better handle on how close they are from truly competing with the elite teams.
its_happening
Maybe Grichuk for Kimbrel. It won’t happen, but to deal Grichuk it would take a rough contract in-return. David Price type. Hard to think another team would want Grichuk, also wonder if the return is a fit that helps the team. Very hard to see a Grichuk trade being a benefit.
bigdaddyt
so trade a just above replacement level OF who’s owed what 30 something over the next 3 years for a pitcher who’s also just a bit above replacement but owed 2-3x as much (price) makes sense to me. But i would normally agree Kimbrel makes sense but the jays pen is loaded and need a lefty not another 1 inning righty
its_happening
Daddy, this is what this Grichuk extension looks like when attempting to deal him. This is it. Kimbrel, Price, Danny Duffy – these types. So many Jays fans excused this extension when it happened. I warned people this could be a problem and here we are.
Now, they could roll with the 4 OF plus Fisher (Jays will not keep Davis over Fisher even though they should). But the Jays still have suspect SP. This means Gurriel is the guy to get an arm. It’s too bad. Gurriel’s contract is one of the best in baseball.
As for lefty, sure. But why have interest in Rosenthal? Matz and Kay might be in the ‘pen with Borucki. Maybe. Matz, Kay and Borucki’s nickname will be “maybe”, combining their names.
jimmertee
Grichuk is not drawing much trade interest, that is just marketing spew from the Sportsnet/Rogers machine. Gurriel Jr is however drawing major trade interest.
As many have said above Grichuk is not worth anything on the open trade market. The Jays would have to eat at least half of his deal in order to move him for a spare part. Grichuk is streaky and he happened to be hot during the limited 2020 season. He could have just as easily gone into the tank for 2020.
Gurriel Jr is the hot commodity. He is still learning how to be a major league player and has middle of the order skills. Even his brother Yuli says he is going to be star. Gurriel Jr is just coming into his maturity now. The only way I would trade him is for a young top of the rotation starter coming back.
99 Captain Judge
It doesn’t surprise me at all that the Rays had interest in Jameson Taillon and Cory Kluber. There was no way they were going to anti-up $11 million for Kluber. But it somewhat surprised me that they didn’t do better in trying to acquire Taillon who definitely falls under the category of high reward/low risk.
Moneyballer
Low risk? Any pitcher coming off major injuries are risky plays. I wouldn’t label him low risk in any way.
99 Captain Judge
@Moneyballer- ok fair point. But acquiring Taillon would have definitely benefited the Rays more than the Yankees. Especially after trading Snell and not re-signing Morton. Even with an excellent bullpen I don’t see the Rays winning the AL East in 2021.
iverbure
I think it would have been low risk on the rays part, they’ve got a loaded farm and the guys the Pirates took back weren’t exactly sure fire mlb regulars. And Tampa always seems to have a ton of guys that need to be protected in rule 5. Taillon upside, along with very affordable contract was what made him a perfect fit for the rays and about as low of risk for any team given their overall depth at pitching.
rocky7
The low risk was his control and contract dollars.
Not a fair point Yank4life, if he had been following this conversation about Taillion from the start.
C-Daddy
I could live with the Jays trading Gurriel if they’re getting someone like Castillo back, but that’s about it.
99 Captain Judge
@C-Daddy- lst prospect I’m going to ask for is Nate Pearson from the Blue Jays for Castillo. The Reds would want Gurriel and another prospect also included.
C-Daddy
I’m not suggesting it would be a one-for-one trade, I’m just saying if they do trade him it should be for a pitcher of that calibre.
iverbure
No team is getting anyone’s top prospect for any SP or any player these days. Those guys are too valuable. Snell wasn’t even traded for the Padres best prospect and it’s hard to find anyone around baseball with better control and affordable contract than him.
If you guys haven’t noticed over the past couple years it’s always prospect 5, like 7 and 8 and then a guy lower or two. Then the fans say that’s it! See gerrit cole among many others who the public thinks will fetch far more than they actually bring back in trade.
rocky7
Given the Cult that has developed regarding Castillo on this sites commentors, that isn’t going to get the Reds to trade him….they want more than that, or they’ll just wait until the trading deadline to see who lines up with the biggest offers for Castillo.
99 Captain Judge
@rocky7- I agree. If your not offering 2 of your top prospects, and a top 20 prospect your not getting Castillo. The Reds wanted Gleyber Torres+ Lol…That was never happening, nor should it. Even Frazier, Andujar, Estrada, Schmidty or Deivi is way too much for Castillo. My guess is the Reds will hang on to Castillo and try to win the NL Central. If they fall behind then they likely will entertain offers for him at the trading deadline. The Blue Jays need him a lot more then the Yankees, especially if they want to win the AL East which is not likely even with Castillo. Signing Paxton and Odorizzi is probably the way Buffalo goes right now.
jdgoat
Literally none of those guys would be off the table for Castillo. Andujar? Estrada? Come on.
MoRivera 1999
Nobody in that list is even remotely close to Castillo. Andujar is worthless, especially when the Reds have Suarez. Frazier has one good 60 game season. Shcmidt and Deivi have promise, but less than stellar cups of coffee. Estrada hasn’t proven a thing.
Mccafe
It’s Not Buffalo, it’s Toronto. Secondly, if it’s not likely that Toronto wins the A.L East, why is it that Yankeeland is crying about how much money the Jays are spending ? If any team in baseball has a track record of overspending, it’s gotta be NYY.
I see the Jays trading from their prospect collection, with an abundance of great young catchers, pitchers, and middle infielders.
GoLandCrabs
I know Tanaka took a discount but many teams should be kicking themselves for not signing him above that rate. He should have got 2 years 20 million easy.
stormie
I don’t think Tanaka had much interest in signing with any MLB team but the Yankees, or I doubt he takes such a low offer in January to go back to Japan, within days of the Yankees pretty much closing the door on him. I likewise doubt he comes back to MLB unless it’s with the Yanks again.
PutPeteinthehall
Yankees signed two free agent pitchers and paid Taillon’s salary with the money Tanaka wanted. 25 percent of their staff. While Tanaka was still effective last year it’s worth noting he was strictly a five inning pitcher last year giving up the long ball more than ever. Averaged one per five inning start. To believe somehow he’s going to be refreshed and super again in 2022 isn’t reality.
Doug Dueck
@RJNarvick – The 2021 season with Tanaka in Japan is basically a wait and see for the Yankees to re-evaluate Tanaka. If he tanks out to often then sayonara to Tanaka. If he holds his own or even improves and both parties are interested then a reunion can be revisited.
99 Captain Judge
@GoLandCrabs- Masahiro wasn’t going to go to any team in the majors. It was always the Yankees or Japan. If the Yankees would of offered 2 years and $20 million from the beginning he likely would of taken it. Tanaka wanted more $. He thought he was worth at least $15 million annually. The Yankees didn’t think so. He made $22 million last season.
looiebelongsinthehall
Can’t see the Angels making a move for Vasquez because their farm just doesn’t seem good enough to get a deal done. Would though make sense from Boston’s standpoint if Bloom doesn’t think the team will be good enough the next two years. That said, I continue to remember how pitchers loved Leon behind the plate in 18 and would certainly trade CV if the right offer (young pitching with promise) came back. My gut however says it’s a non-issue as otherwise Bloom wouldn’t have just lost a catcher as the team did.
PKCasimir
Trading Vazquez makes absolutely no sense for the Red Sox. There’s nothing they could get for him that would be worth it. Good catchers are a very valuable commodity and hard to find.. Sandy Leon was placed on waivers by the Sox in 2019 simply because he’s a third string catcher. The Sox have absolutely no desire to bring him back. And the Sox certainly think they’re good enough. You may not, but they do. And they only have $125 million committed in 2022.
Spike 13
CV and Cora are tight. Would have to be an incredible deal to move him
whyhayzee
I don’t get the “trade the guy while he has high value” paradigm, especially at a position that is difficult to develop like catcher. Been following the Red Sox since 1963 and it’s not like they’ve developed a whole lot of really good catchers. There’s Fisk (oops, let him go), there’s Gedman (oops, didn’t sign him and his career went down the tubes), there’s Varitek (oh, held onto him and got rewarded with two championships) and now Vazquez (so far, one championship) . Along the way they’ve borrowed Elston Howard, Tony Pena, Mike MacFarlane, A.J. Pierzynski, Victor Martinez, and Jarrold Saltalamachhia. They won one with Salty and then he fell off the edge of the world, so they timed that one right. Did they keep Varitek too long? I don’t think so even though I know fans used to gripe about his caught stealing percentage (talk about an almost meaningless stat). So what if they keep Vazquez. Are they going to get something back that’s going to make up for his loss? How’s that worked out before through the decades? Not so great. Just my thoughts.
Spike 13
Where’s Jerry moses,russ Nixon, and Mike ryan when you need them?
bobtillman
You forgot Bob Tillman.
whyhayzee
Tillman got them Elston Howard I think. Tillman was decent around 1964 or so. I liked Dick Radatz back then. They weren’t exactly loaded with talent but they were coming through the minors strong and lining up for the Impossible Dream.
jdgoat
With three fulltime outfielders and the DH taken up by either Guerrero or Tellez, you’d think Grichuk would be traded for whatever offer comes in. If they don’t have to chip in money or prospects to move him, I wouldn’t be holding out for a better deal. Maybe they got a bad contract swap in the works, I could get behing that if it brought in a better fit.
Dutch Vander Linde
The Mets should’ve got Gurriel in the Steven Matz trade.
whynot 2
Seems like the Yankees new official strategy is see which pitchers the Rays want and get them before they do
Digdugler
I assume Jays could have traded Gurriel+ for Lindor and Carrasco as he is better than the players Cleveland got and is MLB ready, so I don’t think the Jays want to trade him.
Jal179
Gurriel plus a bunch of futures was the offer.
To be honest, I’m glad the Indians didn’t accept the Jays offer as I had little faith Lindor would sign long term.
Digdugler
nah it was Groshans + or something. The reporters said Jays offer was better (in terms of FV) but it was less MLB ready. I am also glad but it could have been done if they wanted to.
JoeBrady
I’d prefer the NYMs package. Gurriel is a good hitter, but not much of a fielder. And only has 3 years left. Between Gimenez & Rosario, they have 9 years left. And Wolf & Greene can’t be ignored.
Mccafe
Gurriel is not much of a fielder? But wasn’t he a gold glove finalist ?
smuzqwpdmx
The Lindor trade was before the Springer signing.
Personally I’d much rather see them trade Teo than Gurriel. At least that’d improve the defense, and Teo is more of a risky hitter (more power but could go back to swinging at the dirt) whereas Gurriel is a natural.
Get rid of the softball players
I still have a feeling reds will trade castillo to the rays before spring training starts
Jal179
I think you made a typo— Jays not Rays lol
Philliesfan4life
Rays could prolly trade Adamas plus some prospects to get Castillo. That would make up the loss for Snell
inkstainedscribe
Gurriel to ATL makes sense. The Braves have pitchers plus catchers to deal.
PiratesFan1981
Tallion to NYY was a gift to the Yankees. I understand health has been a concern for Tallion. Same could of been said about Strasburg if Nationals ever traded him. Tallion has top of the rotation talent and his ceiling is a CY Young winner. He can pitch but injuries (some unfortunate) has held him back. I wish him a full healthy season this year. If Cole and Tallion pitch to their talent and abilities, Yankees will have a phenomenal 1-3 punch
MoRivera 1999
With Tallion and Kluber, pitching to their talent and abilities is a big IF. Same for Severino and German. That’s big IFs for 4/5 of their rotation. And of course they’ll need Montgomery, Schmidt or Garcia to bridge them to Sevy, and they’re all IFs fo 5th pitcher. Only Cole is likely to be very good to great.
Doug Dueck
@MoRivera 1999 – If you want to get into IF’s then realistically probably every MLB player will have an equal opportunity to get injured this year or whenever into the future. “You pays your money and you takes your chances” is a great motto I like going forward – The Yankees have done that this year.
Joe Momma
Man I know it sucks to lose one of your home grown players, especially a guy like Taillon who has dealt with so much, but I don’t think it’s realistic to expect much from him. Guy has had 2 TJ surgeries and best cancer. His arm will never be the same and he has missed so much time to develop. I doubt they even let him or Kluber start more than 15 games this year.
If Taillon is going to make a name for himself it’s going to be in the playoffs. That’s why the Yankees got him and Kluber, for the potential behind Cole in the postseason. At this point both Kluber and Taillon only have so many bullets left in their guns, gotta be careful when to use them.
bobtillman
Can’t see the Sox trading Vasquez; the total package is worth more than the 6M they’re paying him. And it’s not like they have anybody in the pipeline.
For Pirate fans, I just can’t see the sense of moving Taillon when they did. A healthy Taillon is a top-shelf pitcher, but he’s forever injured. Why not wait a couple of months, and see how he does physically? On July 31 (or whenever), he’ll still be (a) cheap and (b) controllable. And possibly much more valuable. “Tearing it down to the studs” works when you have the money Houston and the Cubs do; the Pirates don’t.
Rays’ interest in Taillon? Sure, but you can believe Marc Topkin as much as Sean Spicer…merely a mouthpiece. .I’m sure they inquired (who wouldn’t), but I’m sure they “inquired” on Bauer, too.
steelerbravenation
Because if he doesn’t come back healthy they don’t get anything
Pirates decided they are all in on the rebuild and I applaud them
Bruin1012
I think Toronto needs to go after Marquez. The Rockies have to be blowing it up now. It’s probably going to take a little less then Castillo but he is a very good controllable pitcher. If I was the Rockies I would want prospects back to do this deal so you wouldn’t have to trade Lourdes plus prospects if you went after Castillo and it would take a lot more then Lourdes to land Castillo.
BirdieMan
Angels should have signed Tanaka.
Dorothy_Mantooth
I agree with Bobtillman. There’s no way Boston moves Vazquez unless the return they get for him is massive. His $6M and $7M option next year is a bargain based on his production and he is a huge part of the Boston offense that would be next to impossible to replace. I know they say it’s better to trade a player one year early than one year too late but Vazquez has another 2-3 years of prime left in him and Boston should look to ride that out.
JoeBrady
I agree 100%. I don’t mind trading for the future, if we had an up-and-coming star. But we have no one even close. I’d likely trade anyone on the team (except Verdugo) before I’d trade Vazquez.
firegibby
Unless the Jay’s get something great trading Gurriel is silly. Unless they get some great deal hes not worth letting go. Randy is expendable but has little value while he has a big ego. He’d be great in Baltimore though he hits well there lol
baseballsavvy
I hope the Jay’s don’t trade Gurriel. This should be a big year for him. Let him put up great numbers during a full season if they’re into the idea of trading him. I think his value sky rockets after this year.