Despite all of the trade speculation swirling around Andrew Benintendi, the Red Sox haven’t “reached a point of no return in trade talks,” The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier writes, and “there’s a solid chance, though not a guarantee” that Benintendi won’t be moved. One of the obstacles preventing a deal is the number of quality left field options remaining in free agency, so a team in need at the position might prefer to just sign a longer-term answer, rather than swing a trade with the Sox for a player who is only under team control for two more seasons. Speier notes that the Red Sox themselves could be such a team looking for a longer-term outfielder, and could explore the free agent market themselves if Benintendi is indeed dealt.
More from around the AL East…
- Since over half the league sent scouts to watch Corey Kluber’s showcase event, it isn’t surprising that there was some significant money on offer for the veteran righty, who ended up signing with the Yankees on a one-year, $11MM deal. Several teams made eight-figure offers, according to SNY.tv’s Andy Martino, and the Yankees’ offer wasn’t the most expensive contract on the table.
- Kluber drew plenty of interest from elsewhere in the AL East, as Martino writes that the Blue Jays were one of the clubs “bidding aggressively.” Speier sheds a bit more light on Kluber’s situation, noting that he “seemed most interested in a clean one-year deal” rather than a one-year contract with a 2022 option attached — a structure that would have perhaps been more appealing to the Red Sox, another team with legitimate interest in Kluber’s services.
- The Rays also “made a very strong run” at Kluber, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports. With Kluber now off the board, Chris Archer is still under consideration as the Rays continue to look for veteran rotation help.
- Also from Topkin, he provides health updates on Yonny Chirinos (Tommy John surgery) and Brendan McKay (shoulder surgery). Chirinos has started to play catch, despite only undergoing his TJ procedure back in August. While the early progress is a good sign, it would still be a surprise if Chirinos was able to pitch at all in 2021 given the usual timeline for Tommy John recovery. McKay’s timeline isn’t as clear, as it was estimated last August that his labrum issue would keep him sidelined through at least the start of the spring. However, Topkin reports that McKay is expected to “soon” start playing catch, which could give both the star prospect and the Rays a better idea of when McKay will be ready for the 2021 season.
DarkSide830
one day he’s a lock to move, now he’s unlikely to. amazing sports reporting once more.
cdr9er
One of these reporters said he was a lock to be traded before the end of the weekend…
downeysoft42
Yupppp
ayrbhoy
I believe it was phrased this way- he’d be surprised if he (Benintendi) wasn’t moved by the end of the week. We are on a rumors site, just saying…
YourDreamGM
I have to stop believing everything I hear. First bell and tailon to the Yankees and now this. I guess the weekend isn’t over yet……
LordD99
That would be a good idea as the Bell and Taillon rumor was sketchy from the start. It was never anything solid.
Marty McRae
“Despite all of the trade speculation swirling around Andrew Benintendi, the Red Sox haven’t “reached a point of no return in trade talks,” The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier writes, and “there’s a solid chance, though not a guarantee” that Benintendi won’t be moved.”
Just an absolutely useless collection of words. Of course they haven’t reached the point of no return in trade talks yet.
TeddyBallgameYazJimEd
Exactly…a point of no return? F
The only time you have reached a point of no return is once you have traded him. Its one thing to report rumors it’s another to report…
absolutely nothing.
muskie73
MLB Trade Rumors accurately reported what another source attributed to a “rival executive”:
“JANUARY 12, 7:23pm: A rival executive told Mark Feinsand of MLB.com that he will be “shocked” if the Red Sox don’t trade Benintendi before the end of the weekend.”
mlbtraderumors.com/2021/01/red-sox-discussing-andr…
passed_balls
Sports reporting is getting close to weather reporting these days
gbs42
This site is called MLB Trade *Rumors,” after all. Not everything reported here as a possibility actually will happen.
lolzmets
Thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious! I heard that the sun is hot! Can you verify that for us?
dave13
Well many people above him clearly are having a hard time understanding that. Take your useless comment elsewhere
lolzmets
What’s amazing about the sports reporters is that they know how use complete sentences! Where did they learn that? Grade school?
theodore glass
You sir are a troll.
gbs42
Based on your first sentence, it seems you still haven’t graduated. Maybe nap time will help with your grumpiness.
jhomeslice
Whatever is being reported, he is coming off a season where he was hurt and hit .105, and he was not great in 2019. It is not surprising that he does not have the trade value or number of interested teams there would have been 3 years ago. He is a gamble for any team that wants him, whatever upside he has. I don’t see prospects headed to the Red Sox for him while there are still free agent outfielders for teams to sign that don’t require any prospects at all, personally. He might have a lot more value mid season if he is hitting decent again, in which case would the Red Sox still want to move him? I am sure their confidence in him is not sky high, hence why they want to trade him now. They might be a lot better off keeping him, unless he truly has little value left.
Cap & Crunch
Makes sense Kluber didnt want the +1
Ida wanted that +1 if I was a club like SF TOR or BOS so that probably helped NYY get him
bgrant0224
I’d rather have Jon Lester over Chris archer
YourDreamGM
I will take Archer being he’s younger. He can easily be the 2017 2018 Archer. I don’t worry about his pirate years. They had a terrible pitching coach and played 3 dhs in the field with a 2b at SS and and a lf in center.
fba0017
He hasn’t had a sub 4 ERA since 2015. He is a 4/5 starter at this point.
Marty McRae
Most pitchers have bad ERAs when the defense behind them stinks no matter what.
Dock_Elvis
Marty McRae…it’s hard to fault the fans in the seats for not catching everything when you’re giving up 1.88 HR/9 and you’re walking too many guys.
lolzmets
Yeah but it’s ok if the defense stinks and they are fat guys, right Marty McRib? Marty is so WOKE and “fat shaming” is bad. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Lars MacDonald
Archer has been overrated for years. The stat-heads look at his peripheral numbers and drool but he’s never been able to put it all together and really dominate. Maybe some pitching coach will be able to unlock his potential. But, if the Rays couldn’t do it, who will.
rocky7
All these new Metric were created for guys like Archer, who it is agreed has been drastically over rated for years but based on modern metrics that will always be the hope that his limited success will be behind him and that “this is the year” he really breaks out.
jakec77
My guess is if Tampa signs Archer, they will get him back to being a useful pitcher- not an ace by any means, but a guy who can give you innings with an ERA around or a little below 4.
BadBenjamin
Kluber with better offers on the table and he chooses the team with a lot of pressure and a hitters mini ballpark. Interesting.
Old User Name
Then he’s a perfect fit. No fear.
Ducky Buckin Fent
& Cashman got one of his coveted “value” signings.
Rocket32
BadBenjamin Eric Cressey also works for the Yankees and Kluber has been working with him already. Yankees also have Matt Blake as their pitching coach, Blake and Kluber were together in Cleveland for 4 years. That’s 2 people in NY that Kluber likes and is already familiar with.
Yankees also offer him as good a chance as any other team can to compete for a World Series this year. Kluber knows how to pitch under pressure.
BLIN7Y
Urshela was a team mate of his too and he probably knows Frazier
Marty McRae
Yankees haven’t competed for a World Series in 12 years and have made 1 in the last 18.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Lol
You have an interesting definition of “compete”. Always in the postseason, trips to the LCS, haven’t had a losing season in a quarter century…
Sorry.
What were we talking about again?
lolzmets
It would be more accurate to say that in spite of having an enormous payroll, the Yankees usually choke every year in the LCS.
YourDreamGM
If only one day gms will be able to factor in players home ball parks when determining to sign free agents.
Yankee Clipper
Ya know, you remind me of my Dream GM …..
Le Grande Orangerie
The Yankees are the Yankees. Not many players turn down offers from them.
Marty McRae
Interesting you think Kluber needs a pitchers park to succeed, because that’s not true.
debubba
I would imagine one of the reasons why he decided to take his talents to NY is because they score runs. Orel Hershiser has stated he chose to go to the Indians in the 90’s because he knew his skills were declining and the runs they were going to score behind him was needed to prolong his successful career.
rocky7
One would guess another reason is that the Yankees are built for the postseason which they have an uncanny ability to usually reach.
rocky7
You guys with the “mini ballpark” comments need to take a look at the actual dimensions of ballparks around the league…but I guess that would only prove you really don’t know anything…just like to impress us all with your trolling!
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
I never understood why the Sox wanted to trade Andrew B, if that is what they wanted to do
mlb1225
I kind of get why they want to trade him, more so don’t understand why they want to trade him coming off such a down season.
kingken67
If it were a down season that was a normal season there might be more concern. But given how strange the 2020 season was many players with otherwise solid track records having a down year, particularly someone like Benny who didn’t play much at all because of injury, many teams will discount that and not think it’s indicative of any long term concerns.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Well he always ate the Orioles lunch from what I have observed or at least remember
Ducky Buckin Fent
Yeah, @mlb1225 –
I just don’t really see him bringing much back as a return. If his wheels are gone he’s a replacement level player at best.
Oddvark
Maybe they think he’s close enough to his top prospect reputation and strong rookie season (2nd place for Rookie of the Year in 2017) that they can still get value based on that, and if he continues to struggle in 2021, all value will be lost?
lolzmets
So you have opposing opinions at the exact same time. Thanks for that.
YourDreamGM
Maybe they don’t feel like he is worth extending and curious what sort of return they could get for him.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
@Your Dream GM
I wouldn’t mind to see him in an Oriole uniform, he is a good player
YourDreamGM
I like him and his upside. Boston doesn’t seem to be putting max effort into winning this year. Orioles don’t seem to be either so I don’t see a fit.
kingken67
I think it’s more likely when they tried discussing long term extensions last Spring he may have indicated he wasn’t all that interested in doing that. I don’t think the 2-year deal they wound up agreeing to was all the team wanted to go with.
Le Grande Orangerie
Because they don’t anticipate being competitive before he’s a free agent. I on the other hand, think the Sox can win the division this year. A lot needs to break good though
YourDreamGM
I can see the sox winning as well. Rays have 2 starters to replace and I agree with them that they over achieved. Yankees have 1 solid starter. Now they only have to hit on 4 of their other 6 options and could always trade for someone if they fail. So far Toronto hasn’t done a ton.
Sox have 3b ss c 2 outfielders dh. Bring back Moreland. Jbj or Pederson, although I can see renfroe being decent. Cesar or wong at 2b. Couple of Felix Archer Hamels lester. Wouldn’t have to spend major money to build a winning team. Other hand, with no fans it’s a good time for a lil rebuild reload.
Mystery Team
How can anyone see the Red Sox winning this season? Have you seen that pitching staff or the rest of the division? Come now let’s be realistic, the Sox are trying to get younger and they see this guy going in the wrong direction the last couple of seasons and want to see what they can get now in case he has another down season. You never know what some of these GMs are thinking. I could see a team like Oakland giving up a decent prospect for Benintendi. He’s cheap and under control for 2021 and 2022 and if it works out they could flip him at the 2022 deadline after getting a year plus out of him.
mlb1225
if there’s any team that will turn a mediocre pitcher around, it’s the Rays.
If there’s any team that will give up on a mediocre pitcher just for them to become good with their next team, it’s the Pirates.
Rking
That would have to sting Pirates fans if the Rays sign Archer.
mlb1225
It would only really sting if they signed Archer and he was 2013-2015 Archer.
YourDreamGM
If it wasn’t for the Archer trade, the pirates would still have same management. So pirate fans should be happy. It shown the organization needed a complete over haul. Don’t know why anyone would offer much for Archer. Trade would have been fine if they didn’t include a top 5 prospect along with the major leaguers.
mlb1225
While the Archer trade may have put the old management team and coaching staff on thin ice, I think the complete collapse in almost every facet of the game in the second half of 2019 was the real reason they went complete tear down and rebuild the staff and FO.
YourDreamGM
I am sure it killed nutting to eat managements remaining salary. I think it took the pressure of fans and media to nudge NH out the door. I thought NH was doing fine. Ok maybe the astros can really tap into pitchers potential. Then the rays do it to a pitcher and goiter and it’s ok something is wrong here in pittsburgh. NH killed it in trades though, obviously excluding the Archer one.
mj-2
I’m a little surprised the Braves haven’t made a play for Benintendi.
He’s really not even my first choice by any means but how much would it really cost them? One of their many pitching prospects? Doubt it would require a huge haul to nab him
Seems like something the Braves would do and pretend they brought in a stud replacement to the fanbase
Jaa1968
Atlanta don’t need him. I hope Boston does move him. His offense sucks
SalaryCapMyth
Braves DO need a corner OF, actually, but it really depends what’s more important to them this year; money or prospects. On any normal year, I would think the Braves should not trade for Benintendi and sign Eddie Rosario instead. But this season is different.
Rangers29
BeNInteNdi IS GuarAnteed tO be TRaDeD BY thIs wEeKEnD.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
@Rangers29
THat iS a VeRY intERESTing obSERvation
Mrtwotone
That’s what they were saying lol
Dorothy_Mantooth
This whole mix of capital and lower case letter fad is one of the dumbest thing that social media and message boards have brought to us. Yes, I understand is in meant to project sarcasm but I beg for everyone to please stop it.
mlb1225
i DoNt KnOw. I kInD oF lIkE iT.
Mrtwotone
I kInDa lIkE iT tO!?!?
Ducky Buckin Fent
Feel like I heard that somewhere before.
Hey, decent chance there are really no takers for him. He is really just not very good.
Mlb1971
“So and so is interested in so and so…..”
I keep saying the bs on this site is not news until a trade is made, and all I get back is “it’s a rumor site”.
It is not a rumor if everyone is “in”on everyone, which is damn near the case. I skip the rumors (as most of them aren’t, or never come to fruition), and read the completed deals….it’s less annoying that way.
dan55
That’s how baseball works. A lot of times a team will be interested in trading for someone, but they don’t like the price it will take to get them. Since this is a site dedicated to writing about anything related to MLB, they will report on rumors.
If you dislike rumor news, I would recommend that you go to a site that just focuses on guaranteed MLB deals.
Mlb1971
…..or simply skip the articles that use the words “interested in”. I do that already…., but thank you for your well intended suggestion.
Yankee Clipper
Yet, here we are!
Mlb1971
Marty’s post from above is so good it is worth repeating:
“ “Despite all of the trade speculation swirling around Andrew Benintendi, the Red Sox haven’t “reached a point of no return in trade talks,” The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier writes, and “there’s a solid chance, though not a guarantee” that Benintendi won’t be moved.”
Just an absolutely useless collection of words. Of course they haven’t reached the point of no return in trade talks yet.”
…and the reason why:
Benintendi OPS:
2016 – .835
2017 – .775
2018 – .830
2019 – .774
Benintendi may have not lived up to the hype some fans expect, but even in 2019, he was absolutely not a bust!
A lot of the top MLB player had a horrible 2020! Stopping and starting spring training, not enough time to prep for the year, injures, dealing with family and pandemic situations all may have contributed to a terrible 2020 for many all-stars.
Look at Benintendi’s numbers from 2019 a little closer. There is a little loss of memory on some of the people posting.
AB – 541
R – 72
H – 144
2B – 40 (pretty high # for someone who’s a bust)
3B – 5
HR – 13
RBI – 68
SB – 10
BA – .266 (low for someone with high expectations, but if it was Bradley with a .266 we would all be thrilled)
OBP – .343 (one of the better OBP in the AL)
SLG – .431 (certainly not horrible)
OPS – .774 (not elite, but not bad)
Yes, 2020 was beyond horrible, but was too and many others
It seems there are a collection of Red Sox fans that have short memories or what to change what really happened, but I guess that is similar to what is going on on a larger scale…
Cooperdooper7
Cora screwed up Bennintendi by moving him into leadoff spot…. took away his aggressiveness…. he is consistently down 0-2, 1-2 in the count…..Change approach back to being aggressive and he will be fine… trading him when his value is low is just plain stupid.
filthyrich
Finished 2019 stronger in the 2 spot adds to your thinking there.
2020 trainwreck, they should try him in the 1 or 2 spot again, but make sure there’s an MVP type batting in whichever spot he isn’t occupying. That’d fix him.
mlb1225
Well if Merriam Webster’s definition of ‘rumor’ is correct, which is “statement or report current without known authority for its truth”, then “so and so is interested in so and so” without official confirmation from either side is in fact a rumor.
bobtillman
Most folks still think trades get made in an hour, on the ephemeral napkin at the local bar. Not the way it happens at all.
At some point, any decent GM is talking to all 30 teams, judging their willingness to move so-and-so. And answering inquiries about their players. It’s just going about their business.
Then, when you get a hot property like a Joe Musgrove, you solicit offers, and even sit on them a bit, Who knows, maybe Kershaw and Buehler develop a medical issue; that throws LA into the pot, where they may not have been interested before. After all that, you make the what you perceive to be the best deal.
And let’s face it, teams “use” the media to stay on the sports pages. It wouldn’t be any fun if your GM answered “What are your goals this offseason” with “Well, we’re probably not going to do anything”.
Mlb1971
And not worth reading….
Mlb1971
On this site “rumor” Issa uselessly the bs put out by cnn
lolzmets
Is english your second language?
Yankee Clipper
The point is to get the respective teams’ fans invested in the article/player and develop buy-in on the offseason topics of conversation. Think how excruciating the comments would be if we came to the message board and the December 10 trade board was up here for three weeks because there was no notable movement.
I posit fans would then be upset because writers were not informative enough on current and ongoing discussions between interested teams and players!
#FreeWriters
Just_a_thought
It’s ironic that your comment epitomizes the substantive complaint you make.
SalaryCapMyth
@Yankee Clipper. I agree with your supposition. I think that’s exactly what would happen.
@Yaz. This is a rumor site. How can you not understand that the article you’re railing against is the kind of articles that are going to be posted all the time? Why are you on this site? Did you just need something in your life to get upset over? Imagine if I walked into an auto parts store and got angry because they sell so many auto parts!!
Dorothy_Mantooth
I’d still like to see Boston trade Benny and sign Rosario in his place. Rosario’s defense is more than acceptable, especially playing 82 games in LF at Fenway but his offense is light years ahead of Benny. Get it done, Chaim!
Pangolin
Rosario has a slightly worse career OPS than Benitendi, is a worse defensive player, he’s slower and is 3 years older. Call me crazy but I’d rather have Benintendi and hope for a bounce back after a lost season.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Their career OPS numbers are identical (off less than one point at 788 vs 789) but take out Rosario’s first two years in the league and he is at least 50 points higher than Benny. What this tells me is that Rosario took a couple of years to adjust to MLB pitching and then took off at the plate. Benny is the exact opposite. He took the league by storm as a rookie and has since regressed considerably as an offensive player, both from a power perspective and OPS perspective the last two seasons. Rosario has much more power (which Boston really needs in its OF) and is still only 29 years old so he has another 3+ years of above average offense left in his bat. We have no idea what is left in Benny’s bat and his sprint speed and defense has fallen off to a point where he is worse than Rosario in the OF now. To me it’s no contest. Rosario is the better player and I absolutely loved Benny when he was originally called up. Living 10 minutes from Fenway, I watch / attend over 100 Sox games per year (in a normal year) and have watched Benny regress into a lost and seeming uninterested player. For his sake, I’d love to see Benny rebound, but a rebound for him would be batting .285 with 30+ doubles and 15-20 HRs. Those are baseline numbers for Rosario. If they can get a decent pitcher for Benny they should do so and move on. Rosario does need to learn how to take a walk though. He doesn’t strike out much but he doesn’t take enough walks which hurts his OBP considerably. That’s the one area Benny has him beat.
Pangolin
Sure, if you take out the player’s worst career years their stats always. look better. If you remove Benintendi’s last two season he is a .818 OPS hitter and an average defender.
Rosario is just another swing and miss, low OBP, all or nothing hitter who plays bad defense. Those guys can be found any time you want them. The Red Sox themselves have a ton of these guys – Dalbec, Devers, Chavis etc.
I don’t think Benintendi is bringing back any impact pitcher at this point. Much better idea to play him this year and see if he comes back. If not, you can go get a Rosario skill set player any day of the week on waivers. All he brings to the table is decent power. Those guys are not highly sought after.
Benny was a 7th overall pick who looked like a star from 2016-2018, had a so-so 2019 and then 40 miserable AB before being injured in 2020. I don’t understand the rush to dump him when his value is at an all time low and he’s only making $6mil.
theodore glass
I don’t like Rosario much Red Sox better settle for something higher.
Rsox
I think the Red Sox have seen how little value Benintendi has. They could sell low and take a couple of lottery tickets or hold on to him and hope for a rebound. My guess is the latter
Aoe3
Nice to see Toronto was aggressive in the biding. However, I don’t want them to dramatically overpay for a FA just because the fanbase and whoever else is calling for it. I’m perfectly fine with some smaller moves and focusing on the trade deadline and next off season.
jimmertee
Yah Toronto might as well not overpay and nor win anything for another 5 years under Shapiro.
LordD99
Aoe, I question the Jays strategy of publicly attaching themselves to every free agent. It’s frustrating fans and makes it look like they’re failing. When the offseason is done, if they end up signing one of the big free agents and one or two second tier ones, they’ll have had a good offseason, yet the memory will be about all the ones they “missed!” They really should stop leaking rumors. It’s not helping them.
TheBoatmen
Hope the Blue Jays were at least second on Kluber. That would be something for the fans.
bobtillman
An average of 107 OPS+, over 4 years, is rather “meh”, with most of it being achieved more than 2 years ago. There’s defensive value with Bene, but not remarkably so; at this point, he’s actually overpaid.
But I’m with those who say keep him; there’s still some potential there, and all you’re doing at this point is selling low.
And, as always, there might be other factors that would motivate Boston to move him; we just don’t know.
Robertowannabe
Actually, the Red Sox are exactly at the point of no return for Benintendi……..They are getting no return for Benintendi in the offers so no trade is being made 🙂
hd-electraglide
Not really a comment on the subject, but…..
With 2021 finally here, these are some 2020 Thoughts & Observations
1. The dumbest thing I bought in 2020 was a planner.
2. I was so bored I called Jake from State Farm just to talk to someone. He asked me what I was wearing.
3. 2019: Stay away from negative people. 2020: Stay away from positive people.
4. The world has turned upside down. Old folks are sneaking out of the house and their kids are yelling at them to stay home!
5. This morning I saw a neighbor talking to her dog. It was obvious she thought her dog understood her. I came into my house and told my cat. We laughed a lot.
6. Every few days try your jeans on just to make sure they fit. Pajamas will have you believe all is well in the kingdom.
7. Does anyone know if we can take showers yet or should we just keep washing our hands?
8. This virus has done what no woman has been able to do. Cancel sports, shut down all bars and keep men at home!
9. I never thought the comment, “I wouldn’t touch him/her with a 6-foot pole” would become a national policy, but here we are!
10. I need to practice social-distancing from the refrigerator.
11. I hope the weather is good tomorrow for my trip to the Backyard. I’m getting tired of the Living Room.
12. Never in a million years could I have imagined I would go up to a bank teller wearing a mask and ask for money.
theodore glass
What a tool you are. It’s obvious the kind of person that you are. Or you are trolling. But either way this is something that has cause a lot of damage to the world and you are out here mocking it.
Yankee Clipper
Actually, I think he’s noting the irony of 2020 down to the core. Injecting humor into incredibly stressful situations is natural and helps as a coping mechanism for human beings. To pretend otherwise is why a majority of the country is over medicated and/or under a therapist’s care.
He’s not offending anyone, just merely observing life’s irony. If we can’t do that anymore we’ve really lost.
It was a weird forum to place it, however.
Robertowannabe
@ Yankee Clipper. much of @hd’s list was sports related, even Jake from State Farm considering they have Mahomes and Rodgers in those commercials now.. So, not to weird of a place. At least it was not blatant political rant, which show up here from time to time. Those are definitely weirdly placed in this forum.
rocky7
Actually, I think he caught the essence of what we’re all thinking very accurately…..a good smile on a Monday morning in the Jan month of Covid.
Robertowannabe
@ theodore glass–no need for name calling here. You have the right to disagree with another persons opinion but to call names is a poor response. A lot of us use humor to cope. If one does not laugh, they cry. I would rather laugh than cry. Yes a whole lot of pain and suffering over the pandemic. Some as a direct result of the virus. Some more caused by the political response to it. Being doom and gloom 24/7 does no one any good. We are are, on this board because it is a respite from reality for a brief moment of the day. I don’t watch the news much anymore,. even local. because it is all Coronavirus all the time. After a year of it, I am done hearing about it.
Oh, and by the way, Lighten up Francis
jimmertee
HD, I smiled.
Robertowannabe
I did too!
driftcat28 2
An interesting tidbit in the Martino piece is that Tanaka is looking for a one year deal, 15-20m. His market is really unclear. Perhaps he will go back to Japan. Id like the yanks go over the cap by just a bit to accommodate Tanaka. The rotation could use him
Yankee Clipper
That’s a lot for one year of current Tanaka. 20 million could go a long way toward another top-tier SP. I hold Tanaka in high regard and he’s one of my favorite Yankees pitchers these past few years.
Their goal is to reset the CBT for next year unless something they can’t refuse (ie, Castillo) becomes a realistic possibility.
LordD99
The Yankees indifference toward Tanaka could be viewed as a red flag by other teams. They better than any team know the true state of his elbow. They also are no doubt concerned about the disappearance of his splitter as an effective weapon, his signature pitch, which he hasn’t been able to command consistently since 2018. It’s been mostly MIA the last two seasons. To his credit, he’s been able to substitute his slider and remain effective. Few pitchers could lose their best pitch and remain competitive. The Yankees love this guy from a character and competitive point of view, and he’s been an above league average starter every year, yet here they are desperate for starters and they’re letting him walk. He’s still only in his early 30s. He’s a good bet to give a team 170+ innings. They just opted to replace him with Kluber, who is several years older and has barely pitched over the past two seasons. Can’t be helping his market.
This could be simply a case of money. The Yankees are focused on the luxury tax. Tanaka wants 15M+. The Yankees went with the cheaper option. The Angels should be all in here.
Sugano just got $10M in Japan. Tanaka remains a bigger star. He just might consider returning home, retool his splitter and return to the US a year on when teams’ financial situations are clearer. Might even return to the Yankees. Shouldn’t need to happen. A one year deal? Where are the Angels?!
Robertowannabe
Good take on Tanaka losing his best pitch yet still being competitive. That is a mark of being a very good or great pitcher/player. Improvise and adapt and not miss much in the results. Average to even good pitchers can’t make up for losing their best tool. Hats off to Tanaka.
LordD99
I’m curious if the Yankees called Tanaka’s agent and offered them the Kluber deal before signing the Kluber deal. If so, it would confirm this is strictly a money/luxury tax decision.
Curveball1984
The Rays are gonna regret not holding on to Morton. Looks to me they’re struggling to replace him.
YourDreamGM
They might have thought they could have signed him cheaper and simply got out bid. 13 million for him doesn’t sound bad though. But he could have trouble staying healthy.
He can easily be replaced. Lots of cheap options on the free agent market that the rays could get max results out of. I dunno about the reds but the pirates are certainly selling some good pitchers. There isn’t much incentive to win the division so they just need to hang around and can always make a trade this summer.
ratedrdude
I know Chaim Bloom has been bargain hunting this far in the off-season by making millions of the Red Sox Nation very frustrated but he can redeem himself by signing either Joc Pederson or Marcell Ozuna.. Then sign Brad Hand & Alex Colomé then finally sign Masahiro Tanaka or if they are trading Benintendi center a package around him for the Oakland A’s A.J. Puk.. Puk has 6 year’s of control left & he’s already been compared to a young Randy Johnson.. The Redsox could definitely put a package together to acquire A.J. Puk !!!
ctguy
A.J. Puk has a lot of potential. The Sox are definitely going to need to add more than Benintendi to get him.
Robertowannabe
“they are trading Benintendi center a package around him for the Oakland A’s A.J. Puk” –@ ratedrdude
I believe @ratedrdude said exactly what you said would need to happen. I hope you were agreeing with the dear dr dude.
BobSacamano
Mr Avila, please offer for Beni. We need another OF. Stewart had his shot.. it is time.
its_happening
Dare I say it….Benintendi for Boyd.