The Mets were linked to Jake Odorizzi’s market last month, though the team doesn’t appear to be one of the front-runners for the right-hander’s services, as Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that Odorizzi “is believed to be much more engaged with other teams right now.” We heard yesterday that the Twins were also falling behind in the race to sign Odorizzi, which could potentially mean good news for the Giants and Blue Jays — the other two teams cited as having interest in Odorizzi back in November.
San Francisco and Toronto are two of the teams considered to be most fervently exploring the pitching market thus far, with Sherman also listing the Padres, White Sox, Red Sox, Rays, and Angels as being particularly keen on adding arms. It’s probably safe to guess that at least a couple of those teams have also checked in on Odorizzi, who was projected by MLBTR to receive a three-year, $39MM free agent deal.
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- Also from Sherman, he opines that the Mets’ pitching plans could be altered by what happens with Trevor Bauer, as Bauer and George Springer appear to be the team’s top targets. “It is possible they are planning to make just one substantial purchase,” Sherman writes, so the Mets could turn towards Odorizzi or other pitchers if Springer is signed rather than Bauer. A trade target like Reds right-hander Sonny Gray could also be explored, with Sherman theorizing that Amed Rosario could interest a Cincinnati team known to be looking for shortstop help.
- After speculation earlier in the offseason that Athletics assistant GM Billy Owens could be a candidate to join the Mets, the New York Post’s Ken Davidoff reports that the Mets have, at least, “held internal discussions” about Owens, though it isn’t known if Owens has actually interviewed for the team’s general manager vacancy. Owens has a prior relationship with Mets president Sandy Alderson, as Alderson worked as a senior advisor to the Oakland front office for the last two seasons before returning to the Mets.
- Chasen Shreve was non-tendered by the Mets prior to Wednesday’s deadline, and MLBTR’s arbitration projections had Shreve in line for an arbitration salary of between $800K and $1.1MM. However, MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo reports that minor league deal Shreve signed with the Mets last offseason paid the left-hander a $1.5MM base salary upon reaching the majors, so Shreve’s arbitration number would have been closer to $2MM. While not a major financial difference for a reliever who pitched pretty well in 2020, DiComo figures the Mets believe they can find either a less-expensive pitcher who can match or better Shreve’s 2020 performance, or they’re saving money for a bigger-ticket addition. Shreve was also out of options, which undoubtedly also factored into New York’s non-tender decision.
Sherman’s trade ideas are always wild. The Reds aren’t trading Gray for Rosario. The Mets including another significant piece or two, and/or taking a bad contract? Okay, maybe. But straight up? No way.
I can’t tell you how much I would love Odorizzi to be in a Rangers uniform to start next season, but I think his price (and Tanaka’s) is going to be driven way up because of all the teams in on him.
BTW, I’d love to see a Billy Owens – Sandy Alderson FO duo for the Mets. They would be veeerry productive.
Actually, no it wouldn’t. Alderson is an ancient relic who likes to operate on a shoestring budget and dumpster dive for bargains. It was a Colossal mistake bringing him back. It’s like the Wilpons never left.
He was dumpster diving and working on a shoestring budget at the Wilpon’s direction. Now that he has leeway I’m certain you will see the real Alderson.
Alderson knows how to select talent around which a team can build. Simply look at the young talent he traded for and/ or drafted. Once that group of players is established does it make sense to spend money on a free agent, and even then spend wisely so as not to get caught up in a buying frenzy and messing up your budget to the point that you can’t keep your young players because you gave it all to a superstar. And how many of those superstars have ever come close to really helping the team they signed with?
Sandy’s hand were tied by The Thriftpons.
86mets The GM doesn’t determine his own budget. All Alderson could do was try to make the most of what the Wilpons gave him to work with. Cohen hasn’t even officially been the owner for a full offseason yet, give it time. I’m sure Alderson will use that extra room to spend soon
METS WILL WIN IT ALL. WHEN WE DO EVERYONE WILL RECOGNIZE THE METS AS THE PREMIER TEAM ON THE EAST COAST.
I thought if you win it all it makes you the premier team in the world but ok.
I LOVE LAMP, I LOVE LAMP!
He’s known to throw shade
You can capitalize it all you want but it ain’t happening.
Would you settle for the 3rd best team in NY?
1) Yankees
2) Blue Jays
3) Mets
The bluejays are NOT better than the Mets.
Yes, they most definitely are
No they aren’t….
Lol.
They will be the best team in New York after this offseason! Go Jays!
You are in a fantasy world. Write back when you have ace of deGrom’s caliber.
You are assuming that the will be in Buffalo at the start of the season?
Yes because prime Felix Hernandez made the Mariners so good right? Just one example.
Yes we see how many post games having an ace like Jacob Degrom has gotten the Mets too. He’s one pitcher, you need 5. Your number two last year was…. matz? Porcello..? Ryu actually is a decent pitcher and has been pretty close in ERA the last two seasons… so it’s not like the blue jays are lacking there. Mets COULD be better than blue jays but to say they are with no one at second,third or behind the plate is pretty dumb.
Right now they definitley are.
I think so, too.
the Blue Jays are much better than the Mets, i don’t see how it could even be argued otherwise.
and their arrow is pointed much farther up unless the Mets make some big FA additions. (yet to happen)
Is it me or is this an opinion piece. Appreciate the effort but I don’t think Mets fans want to hear what Sherman thinks the Mets should do. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s up to him.
Maybe it was just a Yankee thing, but do you really want to gamble that Gray will be better with the Mets, when it might have been a not comfortable pitching in NYC situation?
Mets get JTR and Springer
Mets get Casali and JBJ..As a Braves fan, this sounds much better..lol
I think they get McCann and Springer.
I second that.
Mets should trade for arenado and Blackmon. No idea what kind of package it would take to get them.
Yep McCann and Springer plus Bauer if the numbers are right.
Mets get
A. realmuto
b. Bauer
C. Springer
D. McCann
E. A and B
F. A,B, C
G. A and C
H B and C
I B, C, D
J none of the above
Get us a 10 option poll MLBTR!
Sherman would fit right in here. We’d all be blasting his trade proposals. Rosario is *not* going to get Gray.
That’s pretty absurd, man.
Ya know?
As the post I was responding to was deleted, I also deleted my response.
So.
Move along, folks.
And you have a good day, @metsfan22.
🙂
Mets prediction
Mccan
Springer
Odorrizi
Springer CF
Nimmo LF
Conforto RF
Alonso DH
Smith 1B
McNeil 2B
Davis 3B
McCann C
Gimenez SS
I can’t find a lineup as good other than dodgers
McNeil batting 6th is all you need to know about how good this lineup is….
Hopefully MLB will decide to settle the Universal DH soon.
Yup the Mets and reds are the teams that mostly get hurt If they take away DH imo
They would still need add one more starter to that team imo
How about LeMahieu at 3rd and trade Davis for a young starter?
I wouldn’t mind but do they have enough to money for DJ? Remember we still have to resign Thor and conforto
I think they let Thor walk as he hasn’t lived up to his potential. It really depends what happene the next few seasons.
Why would nimmo bat 2nd and not McNeil
McNeil is a better player. I don’t really want to bat a 400 obp bat anywhere other than 1-2
Giants are looking for a Southpaw and a RH guy on cheap 1 year deal. Can’t see them in the mix for Odor.
Don’t forget these guys write for a living. They need to write SOMETHING every day even if its basically nothing 🙂 Mets are in Great shape. No worries
The Mets should never think of swapping Rosario for Gray. Why trade a potential 280 hitter for a $20 mil/yr #4 starter. Odorizzi is better at $13 mil and we keep Amed. Sherman needs to take the needle out of his arm before scripting his fantasies.
Right now what role do you think Rosario has with the Mets as it appears SS is Gimenez’s spot to lose and Rosario refuses to play any other positions.
I hope Mets fans do not think they are going to just get big free agent after big free-agent this off-season. I don’t see them getting Bauer or Springer I think a lot of players want to sit back for a year and see what this team is really going to be.
Mets are getting one of those two if they care about money and not where they want to live
Cohen has the money in his ashtray, why not?
all of these owner are rich. doesnt mean they want to spend.
Let me get this straight, you think players are going to ignore one of the only teams that is likely to spend significant money this offseason so they can ‘cash in’ ahead of a possible (likely?) work stoppage next year and then who knows what system going forward? Possibly after a 2nd season of reduced attendance.
This is Wilponian-level drivel.
Also, Trevor May and Marcus Stroman specifically referenced Cohen as being a reason they were excited to sign with the Mets.
They’ll definitely get a big FA… just maybe not more than one unfortunately
Whats the big hype about Bauer?
He has only 1 1/2 good years and he is 30.
Spin rate
Could the reds be the king maker?
Reds trade suarez and winkler to the Mets for mcneil, gimenez, Matthew allan and Josh wolf.
Mets benefit-right handed power with alonzo,suarez and springer
Left handed bats with high obp with conforto,winker.nimmo the 4th of.suereaz costs 27 mil over 3 years leaves room to get springer,simmons and bauer.
Cohen true to his word brings a mlb world series win home.
Reds benefit-3 long term assets to rebuild a depleted farm system.
I’m a Mets fan and, if they made this trade, I’d puke.
The Mets wouldn’t do that trade. McNeil alone has more value than Suarez bc of how cheap he is
I’d pass to as a Mets fan. McNeil is awesome. I honestly would even do that deal if it was just McNeil for Suarez and Winkler.
If it were Suarez and gray for Rosario davis Allan baty, I wonder what both sides would think
I’d puke a little less.
Why trade mcneil? He is a wally backman/tim teufel platoon by himself? Has teufels power plus some more,and has backmans speed and bunting ability.
Bauer solves a lot of the Mets’ rotation problems, but I’d rather have Odorizzi for half the money and 1% of the off field issues.
Odorizzi is a 5-inning pitcher, always was and, if he’s lucky, will be for a couple more years.
Not a very good 5-inning pitcher either.
So when he pitches there will be 4 or 5 relievers finishing his game.
The average start for an AL SP in 2019 was 4.99 IPs. Odorizzi was at 5.3 IPs/GS.
So he’s a little better than average.
Not exactly what you can build a rotation on.
5 of him and you’ll burn out 5 bullpens
1) No team has the option to sign 5 Jake Odorizzis
2) If a team signed 5 Jake Odorizzis, they’d still only blow out one bullpen, maybe.
What is it if you take out all games using an opener that was pulled after 2-3 innings by design and not by performance?
Why this team has great young base the best pitcher in baseball a beautiful stadium in the greatest city in the country and the richest owner in baseball so what’s the need to wait Bauer & Springer would be crazy not to join this team
im pretty sure I’ve heard every fan base say their city is “the greatest city in the country” and that theie staadium is so good that somehow it itself is a free agent attraction.
Springer is projectable, but Bauer not as much – based on their body of work. Signing both diversifies the risk. Add another SP, C and maybe a value play hittrr (Dahl ?) and cherry pick RP.
That’s an A+ offseason. Might not work perfectly, but you’re in position to succeed and diversified on the down sit.
The Mets are going to end up paying Bauer the 7 years and $200 plus million he is asking for and they deserve the high 3s ERA they will get from him.
agreed
Other than last, Short year, what has Bauer done?
Even Porcello won the Cy Young.
If you look at Chasen’s ERA, Ks, hits-to-innings pitched, you’d think wow this guy is pretty good. And he’s a lefty. However, his FIP over the years has been in the 4s & 5s. Hard pass.
Cohen wants to make a splash, he could sign Springer for a big money four or five year deal and try to offer Bauer a deal for two years at a high AAV and hope he takes it. I could see the Mets signing McCann over Realmuto. McCann plays solid defense and won’t hurt you at the plate and will cost significantly less than Realmuto allowing the Mets to try to go for Bauer/Springer
Could 14 billion buy Springer and JTR?
Each or total?. If each, maybe. If total, no
I think Chasen Shreve would be a nice pickup for someone like the Orioles or Mariners. I think the Giants could even use him. I think it would be best to keep Sonny Gray rather than shopping him. I could see them shopping Castillo or Mahle however. I’m pretty sure there was a rumor last offseason about the Reds using Castillo in a potential trade scenario for Carlos Correa. Maybe they could revisit those talks this offseason and try to get Correa. He would fit nicely at shortstop and his power would match nicely with Castellanos, Suarez, and Moustakas. Just an idea.
Shreve is good enough to get a team to sign him, but he isn’t a high ceiling guy. He improved his WHIP and bumped up his K/9 with the Mets, but historically he gives up too much contact. His lack of options likely doomed him with the Mets because it limited their roster flexibility.
Sherman has to fill up newsprint in the Post. Sonny Gray is not coming to Mets. Reds need his right arm and he was not comfortable pitching in NY for Yankees. Pitching wins and Reds not giving him up. Reds have a very fair contract going forward with him.
Alderson for maybe his first time actually had whatever money he needs to spend. I’m hoping he’ll do that just as he has outlined. Buy today while building for tomorrow.