Though Masahiro Tanaka, James Paxton, and J.A. Happ are all free agents, most of the speculation surrounding the Yankees has focused on position players (chiefly DJ LeMahieu) rather than pitching this offseason. In an appearance on “The Front Office” on SiriusXM’s MLB Network Radio today, GM Brian Cashman said the Yankees “definitely feel like we need to try to address more certain innings because you don’t want to be in a position where you’re scrambling” for pitching due to injuries or other absences. Whether those additions could come in the near future, however, is in question.
Cashman likes the Yankees’ in-house rotation candidates and suggested the team might wait beyond Opening Day to see what they really have in their current mix before exploring external pitchers. This doesn’t appear to be their ideal scenario, as Cashman described this route as being a “way we’re forced to go because we don’t have the proper matches” in the marketplace, though the Yankees are “prepared” for such an event: “If I can add to what I have sooner than later, all the better. If I have to wait to do it in season, so be it. But we also might have enough right here before us that’s just untested.” It would seem like a risky tactic for New York given the number of apparent holes in its pitching staff, but if Domingo German can return to his past form after a suspension, or if Jordan Montgomery or Deivi Garcia are ready for regular turns in the rotation, what looks like a major need for veteran pitching could be reduced to perhaps one starter at most.
More from around the AL East…
- Since Ha-Seong Kim is only entering his age-25 season, there has been some thought that his market could extend to teams who might still be at least a year away from contending (the Rangers, for example, are known to have interest). However, MASNsports.com’s Steve Melewski thinks “it sure seems unlikely” that the Orioles will make a bid for Kim since the O’s don’t seem to be planning any major expenditures. Between contract and posting fee, MLBTR projects Kim to cost around $47.625MM this offseason, so Baltimore may not feel like making such an investment at this stage in its rebuild.
- Since the Rays are open to at least listening to trade offers for Blake Snell, ESPN.com’s David Schoenfield adds an interesting wrinkle to the trade speculation — listing which five teams could conceivably acquire both Snell and Kevin Kiermaier in the same trade, thus allowing Tampa Bay to unload even more payroll. Schoenfield’s five clubs have needs in both the rotation and in center field, or perhaps in the outfield in general in the cases of the Angels or Padres. For those teams, Schoenfield opines that their current center fielders (Mike Trout and Trent Grisham) could be moved to a corner outfield slot to accommodate Kiermaier.
Snell should bring a nice return back to the cheep cheep Rays.
You’d think so, but after watching the Reds dump Raisel Iglesias and his 9 mill salary to the Angels I doubt the Rays get back anything close to what fans would expecr if a team takes both Snell salary (10 mill this year, 12.5 in 2022, and 16 mill in 2023) and Kiermaier (11.5 mill this year and 12 in 2022).
Asking a team to take on 21.5 mill in 2021 and 28.5 in 2022 is alot to ask given current circumstances.
I don’t see how the Iglesias trade has anything to do with Snell. Iglesias is an average closer and Snell is a Cy Young potential Ace.
Read the comment more carefully and you would understand. He is saying the money the Angels would take on in this potential trade after picking up Iglesias salary is a lot to ask in the current financial climate of MLB so this trade seems unlikely unless its just for Snell.
Snell has never, and will probably never, have as high a trade value as he currently has. You don’t think a team is willing to part w some prospects for those two, who may put them over the top? $22 million is not that much for an ace and a gold glove CF.
And if the Rays don’t find a good deal? They don’t trade. Regardless of the $ comparison (and the snotty reply to a legitimate question), there is no comparison between this and Iglesias. For one, the Rays know what they are doing…the Reds simply want to dump salary at the expense of 2021.
Sideline… – it’s not $22M though. It’s $38.5MM. Still not a lot for Snell, but much more than you said. So there’s that…
Guess you missed where Brad Hand and his $10 mill salary was outrighted. Nobody claimed him.
Every team could use bull pen help. Yet nobody was willing to take on a 1 year 10 mill commitment. 1 year 9 mill for Iglesias also netted very little in return.
Idk how you or anyone thinks teams are just lining up to take on 20+ mill in salary this year and next year. Theyre not. Teams have actively cut payroll past few months.
Teams have been cutting payroll left and right this year in many ways aside from player salaries too.
Rays should definitely keep Snell and Kiermaier as nobody is going to give them cheap controllable prospects and take on that much salary without a time table for when revenue will begin to look normal again.
21.5 mill and 28.5 mill next two years when teams don’t have a set date when they can gain back revenue and put fans back in the stands is probably not going to happen unless the rays take back a similar salary to net better prospects.
Teams this year will not be spending as much on players but the top 4 FA players will get paid, the rest will give up about 25%. just look at the non-tendered list
Even the top 4 will get squeezed. Case in point DJL. Great fit for the Yankees, great fit for most clubs 1B/2B/3B, and yet there he sits. Maybe he (and others) should do a Grandal and take a one year and then try again next year ?
Was it necessary to throw in there that the Os won’t spend money? Thought that was a given.
Even the full rebuilds have been rumored to least kick the tires on Kim, which they should given he’s 25. Yes, it’s a given but the O’s are maybe not as far as from being at least relevant again as we might think. Current roster is awful but there’s some intriguing young talent at the major league level and high minors.
Well it looks like there is some middle of the rotation guys available
Kim is exactly the type of guy Baltimore should gamble on. They can let him take his lumps for a year at the big league level. If they still aren’t ready to compete 3 years from now he should be a good trade chip.
Thought the same thing, even if he costs a lot this year he’s cheap for the foreseeable future for when their payroll starts to go up. It’s the same reason I want the jays to sign him. Get the expensive part out of the way so next offseason they can sign another big name player and get the kids locked up
You are moving Mike Trout from CF for a 217 hitter? Or any hitter for that matter. No disrespect intended but are you from another planet?
In his defense, Kiermaier is a far superior defensive CF to Trout, which isn’t a knock on Trouts defense more than it is praise to how good Kiermaier is in CF. His offense doesn’t have anything to do with how his defense plays, but I agree that it’s an absolutely insane thought to move Trout to any other position than the one he plays. I mean, its Mike Trout, you don’t move Mike Trout.
Exactly 21.
Although to think about it, KK is the gold standard in CF and a defense featuring both of them would be pretty elite.
But he’s Mike freaking Trout.
yeah i think he’d be a fourth outfielder on the angels – a well-played one, filling in at all 3 positions. I dig the fit.
Trout has already been moved to a corner outfield position before and it would likely prolong his career. A potential outfield of Trout KK and Adell would be pretty stout in terms of defense and production
You’re not paying a guy $11 million to be a fourth outfielder if they trade for him, he starts in CF.
Batting average is irrelevant when it comes to defense. KK is a better CF, period. Trout is great, but this shows how amazing KK is. You can sacrifice at least one position player’s offense for defense…trust me, he will save enough runs to offset his offense.
Mike Trout would still be on the field if they acquire KK. In this scenario you put the elite defensive CF in CF and slide the poor defensive CF to a corner. Unless you mean Mike Trout is not a team player and would rather hurt his team defensively so he can feed his ego. I personally don’t know him, but I’ve never had the impression he was a me first type of player.
Still would love Snell to end up in Seattle. But that’s just my personal want it’s not rooted in any match up facts between the teams lol
He’d love to go there, and if they have prospects it would work. I’d put them toward the top of a potential trade partner, just my opinion.
Yanks going into the season with this rotation is a disaster. Outside of Cole, Monty is a number 4 starter, Garcia is a huge question mark, German hasnt pitched in a year, and sevy hasn’t pitched in two years and isn’t back until mid season.
Cashman is a joke! Trying his hardest to play it cool. He likes his in house options to start the year lol
I think you’re underrating Montgomery when you call him a fourth starter.
Is Tanaka a fourth starter? Monty had a better fWAR, FIP and xFIP than Masahiro in 4 fewer innings this year. In 2017, before he got hurt, he had the same fWAR and a better ERA and FIP than Masahiro in 23 fewer innings. I think he’s at least a solid #3 when he’s healthy.
Agreed. I like Yankees in house options better too. German, Montgomery, and Severino are all better than current free agents not named Bauer.
You’re neglecting how long German and Sevy have gone without pitching. And Montgomery is not a 3, certainly not a “solid” 3. Iffy at best. . Plus there is no room for injury, which the Yankees are notorious for.
Which available FA options would you suggest that Yankees should commit long term dollars to? Especially knowing which players are in next year’s FA class??
They’ll do the same as they have been doing. Go for DJ and skimp on pitching. They had a chance to go on a great run, but Stanton, Ells, and now DJ will keep them from championships. It’s fun to watch, and predictable.
Projecting pitching in the off season is next to impossible, pitching is outlier! Take the top 5 starting pitching staffs on Fangraphs right now, the Mets are #1 Stoman didn’t pitch last year and Syndergaard is coming off TJ. Dodgers are #2 is Price pitching this year and how is Kershaws back. The Nats are #3, Ross didn;t pitch last year, and is Strasburg healthy. Yanks are #5 with Sevy and German. Maybe that is why Cashman being positive. Yanks had a better staff on paper last year, but then Paxton got injured. If you can read into your crystal ball and tell me which teams starters are going to post, then you will have your answer!
Relax, fellas.
Cashman lies. All the time. I’ve made peace with it. Bubba Crosby was *never* the centerfielder, uh?
Cash is playing high stakes poker right now. Give him his run. I do believe that the Yanks’ll be banking on their young arms quite a bit. No way around it, really.
But he’ll add an external arm (or two) to the rotation. Might not be the sexiest addition(s) but they’ll do something.
Germaine is a loser morally n emotionally. I don’t like him n I like most of the NYYs
He was sanctioned for one thing: he slapped his partner in view of an MLB executive. It’s a contemptible, cowardly thing to do, but he wasn’t arrested for domestic abuse like Roberto Osuna, who went on to win a division championship with Houston; and German got a longer suspension than Osuna.
‘The Yankees said in a statement they “remain steadfast in our support” of MLB’s investigative and disciplinary process regarding Germán.
‘”We are encouraged by Domingo’s acceptance of his discipline, and we sincerely hope this indicates a commitment to making a meaningful and positive change in his personal conduct,” the team said. Germán will participate in a treatment program and will also make a contribution to Sanctuary for Families, a New York-based nonprofit group that aids victims of domestic violence.’
Some of us believe in redemption. Some of us apparently don’t. But most of us have done things we regret and have needed on occasion to ask forgiveness. But maybe that doesn’t apply to you, Your Holiness.
typical hypocrite.
totally fine with second chance when it’s someone you like, toss them in the fire when it isn’t.
you sound as horrible as the born again hypocrites who want a bullet in every sex offender, unless it’s one of their tribe, then it’s either victim is lying or perp should get a second, 3rd, or 50th chance.
never change, folks.
I’m not sure if you’re old enough to remember… there was a day when if you got on an airplane, you dressed up in your nicest clothes.
There were families who got embarrassed because they felt they weren’t dressed fancy enough to be on that plane.
You sat down, and on your flight event the cheapest seat got fed a hot meal, even if the kids got a hamburger. (I remember the rule was if you flew coach you always requested kosher, the food was better….)
Point is, for all its ‘technology’ and ‘advanced statute’ there were a lot of social aspect of the ‘good old days’ that really WERE better.
Did domestic violence happen before? Sure, of course it did. But not ad open and blatent. Could anyone else imagine orel hersheiser or Dennis eckersley slapping their wife/girlfriend in public, or shooting off a gun in their house during a domestic argument and being kept on the team?
They would’ve been booted out of the league in those days.
Call me old fashioned. It’s ok, I know I am. I sold my 2018 f150 and went back to driving my 1977 bonanza because I like the ride, loading, and driving experience better.
But I think we’ve lost something, a whole lot of something society wide in the last 40 years from the quality of what we accept in stores when we shop to how we treat each other and tolerate being treated.
Man.
I remember flying in the 70’s. Bet your behind I wore my suit lol. Funny. My son has been flying on his own for years (football camps mostly). He – however – definitely does not wear a suit. Not even close.
I told him about that once & he was absolutely incredulous.
Anyway. I think the reason there’s so much outrage over DV is that it just seems so damn basic. Ya know? C’mon, man. Don’t hit your girl. How is it even necessary to explain how/why it’s wrong.
It’s like having to “explain” to someone how to use a spoon to eat soup, or whatever. “Yep…you pretty much just stick it in the bowl & put it in your mouth”. It’s that utterly straightforward. “Yep…even when you’re mad you don’t hit her”.
I dunno, man. It’s just astounding that this garbage even happens.
But I think we’ve lost something, a whole lot of something society wide in the last 40 years
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Not everything older is better. When I first flew to LV, the ticket was probably $500-600 (maybe 1979-80). With inflation, that would be $1,000-$1,500 today. Instead of $400. No food, but with the money I save I can carry on one really good sandwich.
And, while I still strive to look presentable, I don’t want to wear semi-casual on a plane. Between going to the airport, the wait at the airport, the flight, and the trip to my hotel, a coast-to-coast trip is an easy 8 hours. I’ll stick with nice nice jeans and sneakers, and a collared shirt.
GASoxFan–I get what you’re saying to an extent. But I could argue the other way. Women as a whole have advanced a ton since your “good old days.” Back then it was socially expected that they were just care givers and could not have a job. If they did have a job, they were paid pennies on the dollar to the men in the same role…something women still struggle with today. Hell, women couldn’t even open up their bank account in the 1970’s without their husband’s permission, or own a credit card.
Also racism was much worse. Segregation only ended in 1964. The last public lynching was in 1981. It was also socially acceptable to harass homosexuals and treat them as outcast.
Also, your example of the people going on the plane just shows your bias. Airfare has become much more affordable than it was “back in the day” and cost a small fortune pre-1980’s. So yes, people dressed up to fly because it was for the upper class, or people trying to fit in with the upper class.
In 1950: NY to London round-trip offseason ticket was $500, $670 for peak. Adjust for inflation that was $4,700 and $6,300 for ONE ticket
In 1970: NY to London $550 for the same route, adjusted for inflation that’s $3,200.
You can get that trip for $400-600 right now.
Not everything is about discrimination or racism.
We can bring back some of the courtesy and formality, the common sense and moral decency from the past without adding any racism or other discrimination back into the mix.
Society seems to be losing its moral compass, and turning into a bunch of whiny entitled-feeling slobs that desire a cheap consumption use-and-trash-it economy.
Holding doors for other people. Saying hi on the sidewalk. Expecting goods to be repairable and last more than a year or two.
Getting dressed up to ride an airplane was an example. It wasn’t about ‘fitting in with the rich’ although yes, it was expensive. You got dressed up because it was considered a formal occasion. Just like you used to get dressed up on Sundays and go to church.
People who lived the times, or were close enough to them, remember lots of times you acted more formal and respectful for things nowadays that people are pffft who cares.
Now we live in the world where you’ve got that Arianna grande girl going to a store. Asking for something the clerk has to go in back for. Licking donuts and putting it back on the rack to be sold to other customers while all her cohort laughs and thinks it’s the best ever. Then leaving for the goods to be sold to some unsuspecting customer.
But the public still loves her, she keeps millions of fans and deals.
I’m not the biggest fan of number 45… but I can see the make it great again slogan making some sense. It isn’t meaning turn 100% of every aspect back 80 years. But there are a lot, and I mean a LOT of places where we fall short of where we used to be and regressed rather than progressed.
“Did domestic violence happen before? Sure, of course it did. But not ad open and blatent. Could anyone else imagine orel hersheiser or Dennis eckersley slapping their wife/girlfriend in public, or shooting off a gun in their house during a domestic argument and being kept on the team?”
I hate to disabuse you of a pleasant illusion, but Ty Cobb, who was in the inaugural class of inductees into the Hall of Fame, beat up a cripple in the stands at a game, bragged that he killed a man in an alley and defaced him with the barrel of his revolver so he couldn’t be identified, and admitted to betting on and throwing games.
The Hall has a sizeable contingent of cheaters, wife-beaters, racists, drunks and druggies.
But I do understand your nostalgia for the Good Old Days. Generally speaking, life was slower and more circumspect when I was a kid — or at least it seemed so. People took their time to think about life instead of rushing to dash off every passing thought into a tweet. We weren’t obsessed with appealing to make-believe “friends” instead of spending time with real ones.
@GaSoxfan –
To start I think it’s common for older generations to…I dunno… glorify (?) the past. Also, I certainly recall my days of “don’t trust anyone over 30”.
Now, that being acknowledged “not everything is about discrimination or racism” is very true, as well.
But even stating that leads to a whole slew of that exact same thing. It gets thrown at you as “white silence”.
Courtesy & civility do seem to be things long in the past. As well as actual, meaningful & productive dialogue.
Carry your construction company of ~ 60 people who rely on *you* for their sole/primary income through a pandemic & race riots & the accusations fly. You get accused of things like “valuing profits over people”.
The reality is you were just trying to do the right thing in what was an impossible situation.
Not only is there an complete lack of respect for folks who are not “young” but if you are also not young, white, heterosexual, male, etc you suddenly have somehow not even earned what you’ve acquired. It was somehow “gifted to you”. Doesn’t matter the days at the beginning of your endeavor. Those five month stretches without a day off. Those 16+ hour work days.
No one wants to acknowledge that it was hard work & effort that got you a nice home, or vehicles, or are paying for your son’s private school education.
I get it.
Who *doesn’t* want a bunch of free stuff. Ya know?
’20 was definitely difficult but also a mixed bag of results for me, personally.
My company cobbled together a solid season despite the adversity. I also refuse to feel any guilt over the fact that my money guy had an All Star caliber season. In purely financial terms 2020 was out & away my most productive year & it wasn’t particularly close, either.
I’ve never been one for all that “conspicuous consumption”. Until now. If I’m going to be discounted & treated as the “enemy” well…the best revenge is still living well.
Personally, I upgraded both my truck & motorcycle. For the first time ever I bought *myself* some Christmas presents. Doozies, too. A couple sweet water toys one of which is a 28′ camping-cruiser sail boat.
I live a certain way. I believe certain things. I believe it’s almost a duty at this point to wear that stuff proudly.
We’ve lost a great deal.
No one says “sir” or “ma’am” anymore. There is no modicum of respect or decency in so many areas.
I have no idea whom Arianna Grande is. Or what she does. But if you are reporting her schtick accurately…well shouldn’t she be in jail? As opposed to being rewarded for her disgusting behavior?
Yeah.
We’ve lost some things.
@mfm420
How am I a hypocrite? If you can point to a post where I ever condemned anyone for their behavior, do so. Otherwise admit you have no grounds to insult me with your baseless inferences that you pulled out of thin air.
I guess the irony will escape you, that you’re condemning me without a scrap of evidence while you accuse me of “tossing people in the fire” … like you just did. But I’m the hypocrite?
Your commentary is about society in general, comparing the past with today’s society. Me pointing out sexism and racism was more prevalent in the past is doing the same thing you are doing. You’re trying to say society has gone down, and I’m saying it has improved. Yes, there are things that have changed. And yes, we still need to continue to improve.
You say the past had a better moral compass when people were killed, beaten or harassed for their race, religion, and sexual orientation. Sorry, I’m not going to agree that the past generations somehow had a better moral compass, because it’s not true.
I live in Texas so most people still say “yes sir, no sir” and open doors.
Are there kids that are knuckle heads? Yes. Are there adults that never grow out of that? Yes. But that’s not any different than it used to be. There have always been knuckle heads and there always will be. You’re romanticizing a period in time because you’re older. Every generation does it. You can literally look up Aristotle complaining about the younger generation back in the 4th century BC.
And you really don’t get the point about the airfare. It was a formal occasion because it was expensive. People get a lot more dressed up for a dinner at a fancy place than they do McDonalds. Why? Because McDonalds is cheap. Why do people not get dressed up for flying anymore? Because it’s cheap.
Let’s look at some of the best ball players in the past:
Babe Ruth. Notorious drunk and philanderer. Got thrown out of games for beating up umpires and fans. Showed up to many games drunk.
Joe DiMaggio: philanderer and beat his wife–Marilyn Monroe. Also had ties to the mob.
Mickey Mantle: philanderer and a drunk.
Im sure you still like Chapman even though he beats in women. He got 30 games for domestic violence
Chapman fired a pistol into an empty garage, He did not shoot at his girlfriend. He did not, so far as we know from reading, beat his girlfriend. And there is no evidence that he has beat his girlfriend since he was suspended. That goes for all of the DV offenders in baseball. So far as we know, they have all been rehabilitated with one suspension and counseling. Given what it costs them, I’m not surprised. I’m not excusing their actions, just citing the facts as I know them, from reading reports… Full disclosure, I donate food to and volunteer at a domestic violence shelter every week.
The police report in the Chapman case was available online, in the cops’ own handwriting. The responding officers testified that there was no evidence that Chapman had put his hands on his girlfriend’s neck as she originally claimed, the report included the photos taken by the police. There wasn’t a mark on her, and she refused to press charges.
She found Chapman’s phone in the bathroom and saw a text to another woman and she apparently attacked him — Chapman’s driver testified that it wasn’t the other way around.
Pahsha or whatever……Yes, but you love the cheating Red Sox and especially your Brockstar…..want some cheese with that wine homer?
What role does Clarke Schmidt play in the Yankees’ rotation in 2021? Probably not going to have a full workload as a starter, but he could make significant contributions. And Severino could be back by June, which might be early in the season if there is a delay to the start.
Many teams are eyeing a six man rotation for next year. Yanks will get one starter to add to what they have, maybe Tanaka. Cole, Tanaka, German, Monte, Deivi, and Schmidt/King to start the season with Sevy in June.
No team will have their starting 5 from spring training make every scheduled start. Teams should plan on 7-8 starting options. That will be Schmidt/Garcia for Yankees this year.
The Angels need pitching so naturally they would be interested in a Center Fielder
read that again dude.
I got it. And enjoyed it. A big huck huck to you sir!
The Padres are reportedly trying to reduce payroll from what they spent last season. Why would they take on Kiermaier’s $11.5 salary for this year (and that number goes up in 2022 & 2023) when they already have a gold glove center fielder in Trent Grisham? It simply doesn’t make sense.
KK only has a few years of guaranteed salary but the Rays are just seeing what teams are willing to offer for Snell. I have a feeling it’ll be more like next year before the Rays end up trading Snell. Chirinos & Beeks will be back healthy & their pitching prospects will be another year into their development. The team already reduced their payroll by almost $25mil (before they resigned Zunino & signed Wacha) since the end of the season.
Disappointed that I can’t access the Schoenfield piece. Anyone have access, can at least list the 5 teams?
Why would the Yankees intentionally leave themselves short on starting pitching if they have the resources ($) to address the situation in the off-season. I don’t really get what Cashman could mean by there not being “proper matches” — like what the heck does that mean? if they need a starting pitcher… then sign one of the several available ones… or make a trade for one they feel is a better fit. Heck they could even bring back Tanaka who has pitched pretty well for them even last season — he may not be the ‘ace-caliber’ SP he was in his prime… but his salary probably own be either. So if they’ve got the need for a starter… and Tanaka is someone who’s already shown the ability to pitch in the spotlight of NY… then why not resign him for a year? Idk… I’m not a Yankees fan (at all I’m a red Sox fan) but it just seems like this is a really bizarre way to approach the issue of needing a starter or two.
Because the NNY fans want DJLM
Because management is penny pinching and sees young, cheap, controllable pitching on their team. Surely they value Monty and German as of equal value to Tanaka and they’re much cheaper. Tanaka has begun regressing anyway and could actually block someone in 2022. Yanks won’t offer him more than one year; I doubt he’ll be back.
I don’t get it their staff is ranked 5th in Fangraphs , why are they short on pitching. 25 other teams need more pitching.
Slider…you’ll never get all these pundit commenters to admit that the Yankee pitching staff isn’t nearly in the disarray that everyone comments about so let it lie man…..also, given Covid and the real possibility that the season is delayed and possibly played without fans, financially a lot of teams will be willing to sell off/trade their higher priced players due to financial constraints. Maybe that’s the Yankees back-up plan here with current asks for available free agents or ML pitching (Snell) being somewhat ridiculous given all I mentioned. Financially, if Covid has its way, a storm is coming because these owners didn’t become $Millionaires/Billionaires by giving away money and MLB is not a Democracy.
Which FA Pitchers are available and better than what Yankees have already? If the FA isn’t Bauer, then they are not better than what the Yankees have. One could argue that it isn’t good enough, but brining back Happ or Tanaka or their FA equals also won’t be good enough (or at least wasn’t good enough last year). Might as well let the kids pitch. I think we have seen the ceiling on Happ, Tanaka, etc…
Lack of matches alludes to a couple things:
Foremost, the arms he wants on the trade market are asking for more in return than he is willing to give.
Secondary, ownership’s budget directives don’t line up with upper tier proven free agent asking prices (those who aren’t coming off injuries and very poor showings).
Finally, there aren’t many cheap free agents of a great deal of interest to him that he would place greater confidence in than what he already has. Look at the risk/upside arms they have coming off injuries and such. Compare that to who is available on a make-good comeback deal. It’s cheaper with more upside to stick with what’s in his system than those guys is his point.
On the topic of Tanaka… I wouldn’t mind seeing the Red Sox make a play for him… I realize he’s not the same pitcher he was in his prime — but I’d also assume salary-wise he won’t be looking for anywhere near a much $ as he’s made in the past. And adding a guy who had an ERA of 3.50 last season — even if he did only average about 5 IP/start — would be a solid addition to a rotation that has more questions than answers at this point. And if he does continue to need to be limited to only 5 or so IP/start… with the possibility of guys like Sale E-Rod, Eovaldi, Pivetta and Houck all options for the rotation… having another reliable arm in Tanaka — who may be limited Innings wise. Might be the perfect supplement… allowing him to function as an “Opener” with either Pivetta or Houck pitching in tandem with him. (Once/If all other pitchers return at full strength) otherwise… if not all 5 return/look ready… he would at the least provide a solid 5IP every 5th day and an ERA of 3.50 would be a welcome addition to a rotation that was quite possibly the worst in baseball last year — even if statistically they weren’t last… they certainly were close. Granted that was mainly due to losing their top two SPs before the season even started (Sale and E-Rod… both of which will hopefully be back next season)
I think any rotation would benefit from having Tanaka. The Yankees fans probably wouldn’t be too happy if he ended up in Boston though lol.
I agree THAT NYY needs pitching more than DJ, I think thats what the fans want , not what they need
Why would any GM give away their intent or strategy for building their team through trades or free agent acquisitions in an interview? Take what they say with a grain of salt.
I won’t be surprised if Cashman acquires another starter, but I will be surprised if he acquires two. I also won’t be surprised if he rolls the dice with what he’s got. I don’t think Hal’s in a spending mood, unless his repeated comments about losing the most money in 2020 is just a negotiating tactic to lower agents’ expectations.
The Angels aren’t moving Trout out of centerfield unless Trout wants to because he feels they’re a better team with the centerfielder they’re bringing in.
Exactly. Thus the trade discussion–KK is the best CF in baseball.
Smell and Kieramier for Carlos Martinez, Harrison Bader, Matt Carpenter, Daniel Ponce De Leon, Lane Thomas
stop it
Jay’s don’t want those salaries
Rays?
Lol um, no. Rays don’t need Cardinals leftovers, and won’t take the salary.
Gonna go out on a limb here and assume you are a Cards fan.
This offseason for the Rays to deal Snell it’ll take a offer that at least matches (or exceeds) the Glasnow return from the Pirates. If a team is willing to acquire only KK the asking price will definitely be substantially lower.
Again due to the uncertainty regarding when the season may begin and the substantial losses by these clubs Yes a Snell & Kiermaier trade will not bring back as big package as they would prefer because that is alot of money for the team that is looking to make that trade to take on.
It would probably be beneficial Snell gets traded alone to maximize the return once you start to throw in a subpar player with a pretty expensive $25.5 remaining which includes the buyout then you can’t expect a bigger package in return especially with these clubs losing so much money and the unknown of when the season may actually begin.
Yankees would have made a lot of sense for Snell & Kiermaier if the Yankees had not signed Hicks to an extension.
As for Tanaka I see him as good fits with Mets, Angels or Toronto
No shot that Cashman fixes the rotation. This is the same guy who has not once developed a top line starter, not once traded for one, only twice signed one (CC and Cole), and signed two solid and mostly reliable mid rotation guys in tanaka and kuroda.
He’s a lot like his hitters in October, lots and lots of whiffs…..
The single most important part of a ws winner is SP. Cash is just not good at it and that’s why we have won only once in his tenure.
Why won’t Cashman just pull an ace off of the Ace Tree? Severino looked terrible before he got hurt too. No one wants that guy.
he operates out of fear… so he won’t make a trade is he has any concerns about losing it.
He isn’t afraid to make a good deal. Teams calling wanting Torres and Frazier for pitchers like Lance Lynn and Mike Minor get hung up on. A deal is a deal but Yankees shouldn’t get fleeced for a fifth starter.
“Cash is just not good at it and that’s why we have won only once in his tenure.”
Cashman was promoted to GM on February 3, 1998. Three days later he got Chuck Knoblauch in trade.
In September 1998, he acquired Alfonso Soriano from the Hiroshima Toyo Carp. In November 1998 he re-signed David Cone, Scott Brosius and Bernie Williams as free agents.
In February 1999 he traded for Roger Clemens. In April 1999, he signed Darryl Strawberry as a free agent. In July 1999 he traded for Jim Leyritz.
In June 2000, he traded for David Justice. In July 2000, he traded for Denny Neagle and Glenallen Hill.
You can credit Gene Michaels and Bob Watson with the 1998 Championship if you want to, but you can’t deny Cashman substantial credit for the 1999 and 2000 Championships. Add the 2009 Championship, and that’s three championships during Cashman’s tenure, not one.
Snell for 3 years & $39mil remaining is a great move for any team looking at a affordable top of the rotation arm that has his salary locked in.
Even tho KK is not a high average hitter he still provides some pop, basepaths speed & plus defense to a team that will only have to pay $25mil total for 2 years with a option that will allow them to keep KK for another year. Do you want to pay around $20+mil for Springer for 4,5,6+ years? Or JBJ that might cost you more to sign than KK? I hope the Rays keep KK for another year but if the team trades him only I am still ok with that if they keep Snell through next season.
Someone may have already mentioned this, but is it possible the Yankees are just writing off the season? With all
The offseason worries, Maybe they think it makes sense to just hunker down and wait until after the new CBA?
Which leaves Tampa Bay and Toronto to fight for the east. And maybe the Orioles can be third?
I just don’t think there is a lot in the pitching market. The in house options are just as good as the FA market available SP. Maybe they see Lindor, Story, Seager, Greinke, Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw, Bryant, Freeman, Baez, Conforto, Syndergaard, Corea, Davies, Rizzo, etc… all set to be FAs next year and don’t want to spend all of their money this off season when next year teams will have a chance to add legitimate pieces?
Is Luis Severino not coming back this year? I forgot his timetable.
By June…which might be closer to the start of the season than the middle!!
I don’t see the rays trading snell til deadline with quality arms on shelf til mid season at best. KK’s contract not going to be easy to move in this marker either but can happen come playoff push form a contender