The Indians and Padres have completed their massive Aug. 31 trade in which Cleveland sent right-hander Mike Clevinger to San Diego. Per announcements from both teams, the Padres have acquired right-hander Matt Waldron.
Waldron, who turned 24 in September, joined the Indians when they chose him in the 18th round of the 2019 draft. He made a good impression during his first minor league season, in which he amassed 45 2/3 innings of 2.96 ERA pitching with 11.2 K/9 against a measly 0.8 BB/9 between the rookie and Low-A levels. Of course, Waldron wasn’t able to build on those numbers this year because the pandemic wiped out the minor league season.
However Waldron pans out, the Padres probably don’t regret making the deal. Even though he missed time with injuries after the team picked him up, Clevinger helped the Friars to the playoffs with 19 innings of six-run ball in September. Clevinger has two more years of affordable control left, so he’ll remain a key cog for the Padres going forward.
The Indians, meanwhile, saw three of the six players they acquired for Clevinger and outfielder Greg Allen don their uniform in 2020. Righty Cal Quantrill was highly effective over a small sample of work; outfielder/first baseman Josh Naylor went on a tear during their two-game playoff loss to the Yankees after a subpar regular campaign; and catcher Austin Hedges’ struggles at the plate continued.
Deleted_User
Clevinger has two years of control left, not one. And unless he can stop being injured all the time yes the Padres do regret that deal.
Mrtwotone
I’m sure they don’t/wont regret it. They got the only TOR guy available at the time and didn’t give up a fortune
Deleted_User
He’s only a TOR guy if he can stay healthy. The best kind of ability is availability.
Mrtwotone
Although I think Quantrail could end up a #3 starter or a good setup man
bravesfan88
Regardless, you still make that deal..They got a bonafide, potential difference maker without having to give up any of their top guys..
It was a clear win for the Padres at the time, and even if he does get hurt, you can never fault them for making that trade..
I’m honestly jealous the Braves didnt make the trade, but they just didnt have the same talent level, nor the sheer numbers of 2nd tier prospects that the Padres had..
Kudos to them
BSHH
Which TOR guy would still be a TOR guy if he’s injured? Since injuries can happen to anyone, this cannot be a knock on Clevinger.
The Padres try to get over the hump, which is incredibly difficult. But Clevinger may very well be a factor in that regard, much more so than the players given away.
Gruß,
BSHH
ck99
Anyone can get injured, but some players are injury prone. It is a knock if a guy is frequently injured. I don’t know Clevinger’s history. So, I have no opinion on him specifically.
pads fan1980
No they don’t. They wanted him for awhile they knew what they were getting.
Brac2brac
Meh
Jeff Zanghi
Why does it say Cleveland saw 3 of the 6 AND Greg Allen… isn’t it just 3 of the 6 including Greg Allen? Or did a 4th player also reach the majors?
Jeff Zanghi
Oh I got it… just misunderstood that it was saying the trade was for Clevenger AND Allen… not that 3/6 AND Allen went to Cleveland.
TJECK109
A 2 game tear?
RunDMC
Lol. That is quite optimistic.
Gwynning
…And Cash still subbed him to go righty vs. righty…
astick
You. Guys think about trades that could hav e happened? I here sxlcuttlebutt not to sure. Crazy one?
frankiegxiii
Haiku?
GoLandCrabs
Preller traded 6 players for a soon to be 30 year old with a bad elbow and got praised for it by the media.
Tim_Buck-Two
Bro you not remember that time he signed Matt Kemp and Kemp up there like this dude is a stud… Don’t believe what they say or I say listen to your head
GoLandCrabs
I remember it well. The “Rockstar GM” gave up Grandal to his big brother up north. Trea Turner to get Will Myers. Max Fried for 1 year of Upton. I don’t want to hear about how he lucked out getting a 17 year old Tatis who hadn’t played a game yet.
Selkies
Yeah, nothing counts when you’re dealing with pre-2017 White Sox. We were making bad deals left and right.
nowheretogobutup
Sorry but it goes both ways many trades AJ made came out good
wordonthestreet
And many more of AJ’s trade turned to crap.
padreforlife
That’s how it is Preller moves all pretty much backfire
dan55
People have been criticizing Preller for making this trade ever since Clevinger got the elbow injury. However, they seem to forget that he is an ace who is still under control for two more years, so there will be plenty of time for him to perform for the Padres. Also, the Padres managed to get Clevinger without giving up any of their top prospects, which is pretty good for the team.
VegasSDfan
Padres gave up 4 players they didn’t believe in for a #1 starter. No we don’t regret that trade.
dan55
Damn straight.
DarkSide830
yeah. the Pads were in a position where they could afford to deal some good prospects they couldn’t roster all of for a great starter. I think they gave up a lot of good pieces for him, but these were pieces that were expendable given the state of their team.
ERLking
Even with what happened, I’d still do the trade. Injury luck can run both ways… so hoping for two years of the right luck, and mount that skateboard… don’t you dare ride it Sunshine, ;). Lol
tomyo10
I’ve watched Clevinger for years. He will get hurt almost every year. He will give you 5 innings almost every time. But he’ll be around 100 pitches by then. He is not a TOR guy. He’s a good 2-3 if you have a good bullpen. The Indians return can’t be judged until they get a look at the 3 guys who didn’t play this year. If Naylor hits, and Quantrill can be a #3, then the Indians win this trade. Bit SD is playing more for now than the Indians are. But good luck to Sunshine.
ck99
Quantrill was not a #3 for the Pads and didn’t look like he would be soon. I don’t know why one would think he can be a #3 starter for Cleveland either.
tomyo10
The Indians do one thing very well- develop starting pitchers. They’ll do it again with Quantrill. I’m thinking Cookie gets dealt, also
padreforlife
Bingo
DoubleDz921
The Indians organization are masters of pitching prospects, I heard they see something in Quantrill and have been wanting him for a while..
nowheretogobutup
I like this Matt Waldron guy we got as a PTBNL from Cleveland, he looks good.
padreforlife
Clevinger has won 13 games twice in a season that’s it he’s overrated
padreforlife
Preller got burned trading for Long Hair
nowheretogobutup
Way too early to tell, give it two yrs and we’ll see who comes out on top. I’m sure the same will be said when the Indians trade Lindor.
SportsFan0000
Padres over paid for Clevinger…6 guys for what turns out to be 2 players. Clevinger was hurt and no help in playoffs.
Long term the Indians made out on this deal.(32 years + service time for
around 8 years service time?!)
If Clevinger helps Padres win a World Series Title, then that is factored in later.
If Not, then Advantage Indians.