Michael Wacha’s time with the Mets didn’t go at all as the team had hoped when signing him to a one-year, $3MM deal last winter, but ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that despite a season of lackluster results, Wacha is “among the most popular” free-agent starters on the market at the moment. The vast majority of clubs in the league are looking to cut back costs, and Wacha’s track record with the Cardinals, age and likely one-year price point all seemingly work in his favor.
The 29-year-old righty appeared in eight games (seven starts) for the Mets in 2020 and was rocked for a 6.52 ERA with an alarming nine long balls served up in that time. That marked a second straight rough season for Wacha, who logged a 4.76 ERA in 2019 and finished out that season with shoulder troubles — a problem that he’d also battled in the past.
Many will look at a pitcher with a 5.15 ERA over his past two seasons/160 frames and wonder why he’d generate interest, although today’s front offices place dwindling levels of stock in the game’s conventional and more rudimentary means of evaluating performance. Olney notes that an uptick in velocity has contributed to the interest. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, who also suggests interest in Wacha is strong, writes that increased usage of his cutter has piqued the interest of teams around the league (15.5 percent in 2019; 27.1 percent in 2020, per Statcast).
Those seemingly encouraging trends should be accompanied by some caveats, though. Wacha’s velocity jump wasn’t particularly substantial, as he averaged 93 mph on his four-seamer in 2019, per Statcast, and 93.6 mph in 2020. That 93.6 mph mark still falls well shy of the 95.1 mph Wacha averaged in 2017 (his peak velocity season) and the 94.8 mph he averaged in 2015 (arguably the best season of his career). His increased cutter usage came at the expense of a curveball which was a woefully ineffective pitch for him in 2019. However, the cutter was still hit hard by opponents and the curveball was a very effective offering as recently as 2017 (and to a lesser extent in 2018).
None of that is to say that there’s no reason to expect improvement from Wacha moving forward. Last year’s 19.2 K-BB% was the best of his career, and Wacha has never induced swinging-strikes and generated chases outside the strike zone at a higher rate than in 2020. He gave up too much hard contact in the air — hence the nine homers — but the right-hander was among the game’s best at inducing weak contact on the ground (81.9 mph average exit velocity).
Properly evaluating a pitcher is always a tall order — and that’s particularly true when looking at an eight-game sample from a pandemic-shortened season. Wacha won’t turn 30 until next July. That, paired with some of the trend lines he demonstrated in 2020, could land him a decent guarantee from a club seeking a bargain rotation play with some upside. If all goes well for him in ’21, Wacha could hit the market again as a 30-year-old free agent in a much better position than he currently finds himself.
bad bruce
I fail to understand why any team would want him.. Unless there is an opening for BP Pitcher
fred-3
All these GMs want to be the smartest person in the room
solaris602
So what they’re gonna do is drive up his asking price which will defeat the purpose of everyone chasing a perceived bargain.
Appalachian_Outlaw
If you put him in a big ballpark where some of those HRs turn into long flyouts, maybe they’re thinking decent arm on the back of a rotation at a dirt cheap price point?
Evil_MrM
I don’t believe Citifield plays especially small.
BobSacamano
He’s a competent #4 or 5 ML pitcher on most team’s rosters. A career 4.01 era & fip. I’ll gladly take him on my team for under $3m.
Joggin’George
That’s who he WAS. He’s not been that for quite a while. Career stats mean little for evaluation of a declining or broken player.
Jean Matrac
Cosmodeus:
And stats for a couple years when a pitcher struggled with injury issues don’t mean he’s declining or broken either. At his age, his declining or breaking would not be the norm for most pitchers. Were he several years older I’d have more faith in that description.
Joggin’George
So how many chances does he get before we’re allowed to make a judgement? Turning into a pumpkin for over two years due to injury also is not the “norm”, something is going wrong. (I’m not saying he’s not worth a look on a minor league deal, which is all he’ll probably get. It’s just- whoever signs him should prepare themselves for disappointment).
Jean Matrac
Cosmodeus:
I guess as long as there are some encouraging numbers he will continue to get chances. I think the issue is physical injury, or injuries, and the questions are: has he recovered? or, is this a chronic issue?
Normally, I’d agree that he is due a minor league deal. But there is such a shortage of SPs that teams are looking under rocks. If you’re a team desperate for SPs, you might just offer a major league deal, ideally with performance incentives. A major league deal this season might be a mistake, but it would not surprise me at all.
Joggin’George
Yea you’re right. I’m overstating my position a bit. Certainly a non contending team desperate for a backend starter could be a fit, although I still think he’ll wear out his welcome. I just think that if you expect to win, and you need pitching to do that, he’s not a fit.
larry48
I believe if he goes to Dodgers they could fix him.
MasterCal
Yeah but the Dodgers already have 6 starters so he’d be a long reliever for them
mrgreenjeans
Agree. Who cares move for any team.
Tim_Buck-Two
Wacha was going to be the next great thing, the shoulder injury happened and he was never quite the same. Its a shame he never got back to where he was cause he was very domanat when he was right. A huge part of why the Cardinals made it to the world series in 2013 Carlos Beltran was as well
tribepride17
It’s all about the price. They feel he can be solid and had on the cheap. Might not be true seeing as how his demand is high.
hammertime510
Oakland A’s!
mike127
He’s probably generating interest BECAUSE he had a down year, not despite it. There’s a good chance that money will be sparse for these type players and the leverage of a bad season will fit right into the owner’s realm. Find players coming off down years that will be bargains to what could have been.
DarkSide830
hasnt had a good healthy season since 2015 at this point. pass.
Jumping Jack Gash
It’s not a decision that you get to make.
andrewgauldin
Did you miss his 2017 or 2018?
DarkSide830
he was okay in 2017 and missed half of 2018. 2017 was his best full season since 2015 and it was okay at best.
BobSacamano
Besides 2020, he is a very average pitcher. ANY team would take his 2017-19 stats for a backend starter. Especially if his salary is under $3m. Yes, he had an awful 2020. Yes, like 85% of SP so he has a history of injuries. For crying out loud, look at Pomeranz, Gausman, Bundy, Sanchez, Lynn, Gibson, Marco Gonzalez. Do you see the state of major league pitching? Is there warning signs?? Yes. But, he’s not going to be making Jordan Zimmerman $. He’s a back end competent starting pitcher, making back end money. Some teams would feel comfortable with a $20m 2 year Quintana some feel more comfortable w/ a 1 year < $3m on Wacha
DarkSide830
4.13 ERA is fine for a backend starter but you dont know if you are getting 2017, 2018, or 2020 Wacha when you get him. you want consistency in the backend, not uncertainty. Wacha was significantly worse then most of those starters you mentioned last year and has greater injury issues and inconsistency from year to year. Pomeranz was moved to the pen, Sanchez (assume you mean Aaron? gotta specify) might be too at this point, and Gonzales and Bundy havent gotten to free agency so you cant use them as a pricepoint and Lynn is just flat out better. the only comp is Gibson and that was just a flat out terrible signing from when the pen hit paper.
BobSacamano
Do you know what you’re getting out of (Lord knows) how much for Bauer?? Do you honestly believe the 90% of the league is realistically looking at Bauer or the Wacha types? Especially after 2020 COVID ridden season, & so much 2021 uncertainty.
BobSacamano
Yes, that is my point. The pitchers I’ve listed all at one time in their careers had a bad season. But, all have been given a ML contract following that bad season. Anyone (other than LAD or NYY) will be interested in Wacha types, anticipating an uncertain season. That is the current state the market is in right now. IMO, you’re naive if you think most teams are interested in the elite multiple year $30m pitchers more so than the <$5m 1 year types.
DGHalos714
Hope the Halos are open to a year or two contract with an option. For his age and history of success I feel he has more upside or ceiling. Especially change of scenery and going to a team with low expectations can help…
Joggin’George
Thing is, he was just given an opportunity like that with the Mets and he failed miserably… at some point you gotta judge a guy on what he is rather than what you hope he can be. But it can’t hurt to sign him to a minor league deal I guess.
GoLandCrabs
No. Angels need to stop with the Matt Harvey, Julio Tehran, Trevor Cahill projects. They need to go after real impact pitching.
gson
In order to acquire impact pitching..
1. A team’s player personnel department needs to be able to define what that is.. when watching other teams’ pitchers and prospects pitch. Stop looking at the radar gun or his FB page.. and look for what a guy does on the hill with the pill.. Presence, command, control.. spin rates, in situ results !.. Teams like Tampa and Cleveland are very good at what they do for good reasons.
2. If # 1 can’t be done without fail.. then trade with teams that know how to evaluate and acquire what ML pitcher will become… Don’t try to fleece them.. be fair..
3. Repeat step’s one and two.. over and over until there are a dozen guys that can step in and do at least 90 % of what the other guys are doing.. E.G. Shane Bieber was easily at 90 % of what Corey Kluber was doing three years ago.. and is now at the same level or slightly higher….
Too many half assed fixes result in half assed results.. Thoughts?..
DarkSide830
Teheran wasnt a bad signing. him cratering that hard wasnt realistic to expect.
baseballpun
I don’t think that shoulder is ever going to fully recover.
MoRivera 1999
Can anyone describe the method for determining what pitch was thrown is? Is it technology or eyeball? How accurate is it? Just curious.
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Statcast data comes from a combination of video cameras and 3D Doppler radar
MoRivera 1999
Thanks. So is it considered 100% accurate? 95%? 90%?
gson
It’s not just the raw numerical data, although it is relevant.. it’s how the data is evaluated and massaged. What it means.. anyone can recite a spin rate.. or a 50th pitch velocity.. but who can say, from the data, that this pitcher’s 51st pitch will start to show decreased spin rate, at the same velocity, that causes his pitches to go from unhittable to being tracked by a NASA satellite as it leaves the park?..
marcfrombrooklyn
As far as I am aware, we are not at the point that it measures the seams or the grip. It measures speed, rotation, and movement, so it could, I think, confuse a cutter and a slider or a two-seam fastball and a four-seam fastball, assuming something about the grip made one look like the other. I think it has data on arm motion, speed, and release point but I don’t think those factor into determining/deciding how to categorize a particular pitch, though I would imagine that grip and release data would be helpful in parsing fastballs from changeups in pitchers with limited speed differentiation along with a fastball that sometimes dips in speed.
Jean Matrac
The technology should be able to determine a cutter from a slider and a 2-seamer from a four-seamer. As you noted it measures movement. The slider moves more than a cutter, and the two-seam FB more than the four-seam. It doesn’t really matter how the pitcher adjusts his grip to get the effects, it’s the velocity and movement that determines what the pitch is. If the ball moves like a cutter, and the velocity matches, then it’s a cutter. And likewise for every type of pitch.
larry48
The Dodgers have a Computer system with HD cameras and they show the pitcher what an ideal mix they believe would work better. Also, they determine that some pitcher should pitch up with fastballs not down. At the end of a pitcher’s outing, he is given spin rate, amount of break.. Then show the pitcher what works and what doesn’t; They recommend action not dictate. they help ever player to be his best,
thats it fort pitt
Seems like a shift to the bullpen candidate.
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In Wacha’s defense, this season was probably an especially tough one for a veteran SP trying to retool his approach. Obviously that doesn’t mean that he would have necessarily done better in a more normal season (especially given his durability issues), but I’m not surprised that he’s attracting interest given the poor pitching market and some of his peripherals.
oleosmirf
He looked aweseome in ST, summer camp and his first start of the season. Then went all downhill from there, which I suspect was injury related.
Would not surprise me at all if he had a good season.
cwsOverhaul
Solid #7 starter
mookiesboy
if he improves
mrgreenjeans
AAA emergency arm at best
Oddvark
As teams decline options and non-tender more expensive starters, many will be looking for cheap, innings eaters with upside on short-term contracts to fill out their rosters. Wacha fits that bill.
Joggin’George
This one of those, ok let your team pick him up to eat innings and then tell me how it works out, situations. You know who doesn’t have interest in Wacha? Teams he’s been on recently… it’s similar to the Billy Hamilton thing… fans always think they see potential that somehow their team can tap into (yet somehow everyone else has missed) until they actually watch him on their team for a quarter of a season then they despise him and wanna catapult him into the sea. The only bill Wacha fits now is DFA candidate, maaaaybe minor league signing/emergency starter.
Oddvark
When I said “with upside” I didn’t mean that I thought Wacha had some great untapped potential that “my team” was going to unleash and turn him into an ace. Just that he has shown better results in the past and there is at least some possibility that he will perform better than he did last year.
The fact of the matter is that there are not 150 reliable, quality starting pitchers in the MLB, yet all 30 teams are going to have at least 5 starting pitchers on their 40-man rosters. Someone has to fill those roster spots, and Wacha is a reasonable candidate to be one of those pitchers.
Joggin’George
I get what you are saying. It’s what the Mets said before they signed him and he was terrible. It’s what the next team is going to say when they sign him and before they DFA him for being terrible. I may have gone a bit off topic with the Hamilton comparison, but it’s like this: “He was awful in ‘19, but he USED to be good!”… “Ok, ok, he was awful in ‘19 and ‘20, but he used to be good!”…. “Ok, he’s been awful the last three years but…” Basically rinse, repeat. He is what he is.
Jean Matrac
Cosmodeus:
But why was he terrible? Injury, or did he just lose it at age 28-29? I don’t know, but I do know teams, especially the more analytical ones know far better than I do.
If his being terrible stems from injury, there’s hope that he can rebound. And if injury were the reason, there’ would also be the fear that the physical issues are chronic.
But whatever it was, or whether he will be worth signing, he isn’t comparable to Billy Hamilton, who has been bad for most of his entire career. Hamilton’s numbers declined every year, where Wacha was decent as recently as 2018. It wasn’t great, and the problem was once again injury.limiting him to 15 starts. But that 121 ERA+ in 2018 would offer more hope that Wacha could contribute way more than anything about Hamilton would.
Joggin’George
I think injuries just took their toll and he lost it younger than normal.
GASoxFan
Look at it like this…
If he’s cheap enough, they’re hoping to find the next daniel bard.
kodiak920
Washington needs help on the back end of their rotation, and the bullpen is always a train wreck, until Rizzo fixes it at the deadline. Maybe he would help.
Bill M
I think there are some better options out there to fit in as 5th starter for a team like the Nats. And I have to assume he’s probably not looking for a reliever contract.
Joggin’George
I think Wacha takes whatever he can get. He’s not in a position to demand a starting job.
VonPurpleHayes
Teams are going to be looking for pitching on a budget, but Wacha does not look all that appealing. He struggled mightily in a very pitcher-friendly park in 2020.
Enrico Pallazzo
Totally forgot this guy existed
Jumping Jack Gash
No you didn’t.
dusty1946
I believe he would be a good risk if he were put in the bullpen.
goldenmisfit
Why does this guy generate so much interest? Cardinals and Mets are the two least analytic teams in all of baseball and do not teach their starters about spin rate. If this guy ends up with the Dodgers, Yankees, Astros or even Boston those numbers would change quickly.
Joggin’George
I don’t think that’s true at all. For example, the Mets are basically obsessed with Lugo’s spin rate.
DarkSide830
its just silly for anyone to throw out claims like this. people act like teams are either 100% in or 100% behind the times on analytics which is just plain false. there is surely some disparity but everyone uses analytics. Wacha has been in the Majors since 2013 and had success early on. whatever’s harmed him recently is probably not a matter of coaching.
brodie-bruce
honestly i just don’t think his shoulder can take a full mlb season of starts. in stl he would be great until the as break then the stress fractures would happen. then he’d come off the il and just didn’t look like he was fully healed.
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The Mets aren’t really less analytically inclined than other teams. Because of deficient ownership, they just haven’t had a sufficient analytics department to use them as effectively as teams that made a larger/quicker investment.
metsie1
Shows how desperate teams are for pitching. He’s done.
its_happening
So he’s asking for Robbie Ray money?
fljay73
Het him signed to a minor league deal or $1mil + incentives & why not see what happens? Low risk/upside signing especially if a team needs SP depth.
Jean Matrac
fljay73:
Well a team could offer that, but I wouldn’t predict success. He will probably get a better offer than that.
Joggin’George
He got 3 million last year and disappointed… why would he get more than one million plus incentives?
Tom1968
Mets should not resign him.but resign porcello
Dorothy_Mantooth
If he can be had for $3M again this year then I completely understand the interest in him from a wide variety of teams. Playoff teams will be interested in adding him as a 6th starter who could also be used as a long man in the bullpen. Also, low budget teams like Pittsburg, KC, Baltimore, etc. will be interested as well. They could offer him a spot in their 5 man rotation and hope that he pitches well enough to flip him at the deadline for prospects. Heck, even a team like Boston would make sense for him at his price point. Worst case, he flames out but at such a small cost, he’s definitely worth the gamble for a lot teams.
Joggin’George
You think he might get MORE than he did last year after a -0.2 WAR season? Better to get your 6th man and BP help from a AAA guy for cheaper, or an actually good reliever for the same price.
Dorothy_Mantooth
No, the same amount he got last year ($3M). If there are a lot of teams interested in him, $3M certainly seems achievable for him. His advanced stats showed some positive signs as well.
tribepride17
He’s a Joe Buck hall of famer. He’s among the all time greats in Buck’s eyes along with Shwarber, Ellsbury, Hosmer and Conforto. He’s a part of all those great dynasties he predicted.