Isan Diaz opted out of the 2020 season at the start of August, but will now be rejoining the Marlins for the stretch run. Craig Mish of SportsGrid reports that both the league and the players union have each agreed to let Diaz return. News broke yesterday that Diaz was exploring reinstatement, and Marlins president of baseball operations Michael Hill told reporters that Diaz was already at the team’s alternate training complex in Jupiter, Florida.
Diaz played in two games for Miami at the start of the season before deciding to step away, saying “This has been a decision that I have discussed with my family, and I feel it’s the best one for me and my overall well-being” in a statement released on Instagram. Diaz will surely soon reveal the reasons behind his change of heart, though on the surface, it is completely understandable why he would have chosen to not play (given that the Marlins were embroiled in a team-wide coronavirus outbreak in late July/early August) and why he would be eager to come back, given that the club’s health situation seems to be back on track.
Diaz will naturally need some time to ramp up before he is ready to return to action, though his presence was likely a factor in Miami’s decision to trade Jonathan Villar to the Blue Jays yesterday. While the former top prospect hasn’t shown much (.560 career OPS) over 210 Major League plate appearances, Diaz will provide added second base depth and a left-handed platoon partner for Jon Berti, who is slated to handle second base with Villar gone. Utilityman Berti has a .244/.341/.308 slash line over 91 PA this season.
A second-round pick for the Diamondbacks in the 2014 draft, Diaz was part of the prospect package acquired from the Brewers in January 2018 in exchange for Christian Yelich. Diaz crushed Triple-A pitching in 2019, hitting .305/.395/.578 slash line and 26 homers in 435 PA before being called up to the majors.
That’s not right. You opt out you cannot play and it already passed the “deadline”
Why?
Regardless how you feel about covid the MLB has protocols in place. This risks the Marlins season.
Who knows what hes been doing, where he’s been, and such. He could test negative, be preasymptomatic, and they get an outbreak again.
Again, whether you think covid is serious or covid isn’t as bad as people say, marlins get a new case their season is sunk cause of MLBs rules.
I do think it’s serious. It killed four people I know in three weeks this spring.. But you don’t think they have isolation protocols before a guy can rejoin the team?
Hows that any different from literally any other player? They aren’t in a bubble, they all go home and have the ability to do anything they want. Diaz is no more at risk of spreading it than any other guy on their 28 man.
Preasymptomatic… So doesn’t have it?
Ooof, I doubt it killed anyone. It contributed to the deaths of four sick people. That’s serious, but it’s going players are healthy and young, and it will kill zero players.
Ye no, that’s not how it works. If those people wouldn’t have died if they hadn’t caught Covid, then Covid is the cause of that. Covid has killed younger people before, and one of the cases was a 20yo guy that didn’t evn knew yet that had a linfoma. So ye this virus is dangerous af for that reason, normally it will only be deadly for older people or people with some other diseases but you may have something weakening your immune system that you may not even know about. Besides believe me 19 or 91 you don’t want to get this, this is like 3 flews at once and even young people can end up with permanent damage in the organs.
Ye no, that’s not how it works. If those people wouldn’t have died if they hadn’t caught Covid, then Covid is the cause of that. Covid has killed younger people before, and one of the cases was a 20yo guy that didn’t evn knew yet that had a linfoma. So ye this virus is dangerous af for that reason, normally it will only be deadly for older people or people with some other diseases but you may have something weakening your immune system that you may not even know about. Besides believe me 19 or 91 you don’t want to get this, this is like 3 flews at once and even young people can end up with permanent damage in the organs.
This sounds like you’re believing what you want to believe. I know several people who had to be hospitalized, too. We’re closing in on 200,000 deaths, but sure, go ahead and explain away every single one of them because you don’t feel like believing a pandemic is serious enough to cancel sports or whatever.
I disagree ADP. Tyler Skaggs is dead because he mixed alcohol with fentanyl. So alcohol killed him? It was the lesser of the two conditions. With VERY few exceptions, Covid is always the lesser of the conditions.
You need two underlying conditions to be at reasonable risk. Most people know if they are at risk or not.
The problem with this virus is healthy people are vectors. Healthy people get other people killed. The same thing is true with baseball as it is with society, how do we keep it going without putting at risk people in jeopardy?
For political reasons, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of balance regarding this virus. We never seem to ask the right questions. It’s all about politics.
How’s about them Angels, Halo11Fan?
Exactly.
When someone with cancer gets hit by a bus, everyone who isn’t a sheeple knows it was the cancer that killed them and the bus just happened to come along at that moment.
Pure coincidence.
The bus killed him. If a healthy person gets hit by a bus, he’s dead too.
But that kind of dishonesty is why we have so much trouble addressing this issue.
There are very solid reports on deaths from influenza last year that you could research in 3 seconds. Flu deaths were 34,200 last year. Compared to 190,000 from COVID and we still have four months to keep adding to this total.
So COVID is already 5.8 times deadlier than the flu. If in all likelihood COVID reaches 300,000 deaths before the end of the year, that will make it 8.7 times more lethal.
But yeah, let’s just go for herd immunity on this one. Good plan, Dr. Halo.
Less than one thousand people have died from Covid only. Those 189,000 all had one or more underlying conditions. The vast majority had three or more.
We know who are vulnerable. Why are so many pretending we don’t?
We need to keep the vulnerable safe. We also need to have a functioning society. Maybe we can’t do both. But we at least better start with some honesty.
If a person in vulnerable health dies of the flu, the cause of death is the flu. That’s how it is reported by the CDC.
If a vulnerable person dies the COVID, it is reported as a COVID death.
Same criteria. Nearly 6 times as deadly from current numbers. Likely to reach nearly 9 times.
Do you work in the front office of the Angels crunching numbers by any chance? That would honestly explain a lot.
Sorry, it’s 6% covid only. Which makes this less dangerous than the typical flu. But 6% is still much greater than the 1,000 I listed.
And where are your sources on this claim?
My info comes directly from the CDC. You know, your own government’s Center for Disease Control?
According to the CDC 9683 died in the United States with only having COVID-19 listed on their death certificate.
People with no underlying conditions are more likely to die of the flu than of Covid. The flu is more dangerous to young people than Covid.
The question is, is there a better way to protect the vulnerable than to lock down our society? For political reasons, we are not asking that question.
Unfortunately, the people who are not vulnerable often won’t wear masks and often wont social distance.
People who directly downplay the deaths of other peoples’ loved ones TO THE PERSON WHO LOST THEM are just the best, truly you are a class act, Halo.
This is a bad faith argument that allows you to not take a deadly and highly contagious virus seriously. I know you’re going to keep choosing to see this the way you want to, but that doesn’t mean that I have to take what you say seriously.
A sect of people ignoring an entire worlds’ worth of evidence and expert medical opinion because they have to pretend he’s wearing clothes is why we have so much trouble addressing this issue.
It’s weird how MLBTraderumors continues to allow this moron to keep posting this crap on every thread that mentions COVID.
Almost like they don’t want to lose his subscription money. Kind of like Facebook, where the spread of misinformation just isn’t their problem.
Maybe for his next hit we will hear about how the government is using vaccinations to control your mind. Never know what this wacky guy is going to spout next!
I wish the league would’ve mentioned that “deadlines” don’t matter at all for whether or not you can opt back in. They must’ve said that in volume 6, chapter 13, 4.09b, in parenthesis, in a clause.
It was a footnote in the fine print. Like Tim Allen found out in The Santa Clause.
I guess MLB is just doing whatever they want. Why have rules? Might as well get rid of the trade deadline too. What a sham of a season. Whatever team wins the championship this year will forever have a asterisk next to it in my opinion. Shameful MLB and players union!
who cares if Diaz came back in?
He’s the one who was foregoing salary and service time to opt out. If he wants back in now and the club wants him—why do you care?
Risks their season.
They already had issues with covid shutting their season down.
You’d think they’d be like, nah we aren’t going to take that chance. Or the MLB would step in and say no, we arent going to let you take that chance.
Regardless what you think of covid, serious or dumb, marlins get a new case, which he could be pre asymptomatic and test negative, its a nail in the coffin PR wise for the Marlins and MLB.
Risks doesn’t outweigh the rewards here.
There are a ton of teams who have added outside talent in the last 24-48 hours. Each of them runs that exact same risk. Teams have to trust that the MLB intake and quarantine process is sufficient at this point in the season.
Outside talent as in guys whove been playing?
Not really the same thing as a guy who the team hasn’t been keeping tabs on, he opted out. and is now coming back.
it would be worse PR to bar him from playing. they have intake protocols in place, they’ll wait until he clears them to add him back to the roster.
My point still stands, they have the intake procedures in place, intake procedures that should minimize the risk of false tests, or delayed results (at least now, of course not at the start). If they cannot trust their own intake procedures, then they shouldn’t be playing at all.
How would saying no and not exposing players be a worse PR than saying yes and players getting covid?
Sure, they have intake protocols. 2 weeks (14 days).
So he’s coming back for 2 weeks worth of the season? He’s coming back for what 10 games?
They want to take that risk go for it. I see it as a risk to the playoffs being delayed if an outbreak happens. They finish with Yankees and Atlanta. Be a nightmare if an outbreak happens last 10 games and throws a wrench into things heading into the playoffs.
The thing is, who is to say John Doe on the Marlins, who has been with the team all year, doesn’t go to a huge family gathering Without telling anyone and catch it there? As far as I know, there is no way to track the players when they are in their home city(correct me if I’m wrong) so the risk of a player getting it and effectively ending the marlins season will ALWAYS be there. You have to trust the players are making the best choices possible to keep themselves and their teammates safe, and trust that intake and regular testing minimizes the risk. We’ve already seen thats not a perfect system (Cleveland) but it is really the best they can do. The same goes for Diaz as it does for every other player
What risks? Risks to the coaching staff? Risk to shutting down the season because of protocols. Haven’t we learned by now the risk to players is almost non-existent?
So what risks?
That’s the problem with this thing. No one seems to look at this honestly.
If you’re a team competing against them in the playoffs and AFTER the Trade Deadline, you can’t look externally for help. The Trade Deadline should have coincided with a return deadline, imho.
MAGA man that’s a very dumb argument.
You can get covid if you’re a major leaguer on any of the 30 other teams. Diaz is going to be tested numerous times before he’s allowed back in the clubhouse. It’s no different than some player who was sitting at home and got signed to be in some teams 60 man.
If he’s negative he’s negative. Period. Whatever feelings you have about him “being at home” is irrelevant. A negative test means he’s not bringing in anymore COVID exposure than anyone else who has been w/ the team all year.
You can still have it with negative tests. You can still spread it with negative tests.
I don’t really care what he does. I don’t really care if he has covid or doesn’t have covid.
It wouldn’t be that big of an issue if the Marlins hadn’t already had an outbreak in the clubhouse that saw what 18 players go on the list and them scramble to field a team?
Did people seriously forget that already? Marlins have anymore covid issues you’re looking at playoffs possibly being cancelled.
That would be worse case scenario for MLB. Any other team its whatever. But the Marlins, or even Indians, not a risk I’d be willing to take, especially with playoffs weeks away from when he does return.
Exactly. There are protocols in place for safe return like anything else. Covid is here to stay. It’s not just this season that will be affected, it’s all of them.
Lol I just saw Pre-asymptomatic.
That’s not a thing buddy. That means he has nothing. He could’ve been at the strip club 5 nights a week but if he’s free and clear then he’s not anymore of a risk to your ballclub than Starling Marte coming over from Arizona.
Sorry. Pre-symptomatic. I didnt notice it changed it to Pre asymptomatic.
I never heard of a deadline to opt back in. Can someone inform me?
Other than that, why does anyone care, people complain to complain.
Guess I don’t understand why people are complaining. He chose to opt out because the team was in the middle of an outbreak- 100% reasonable decision. Now that they seem to have it on track and there’s less risk, he’s coming back. All of this seems perfectly reasonable to me. These aren’t normal circumstances whatsoever, so it makes sense that the league and player’s union is being a bit more flexible than normal.
who cares if a guy opts out and then wants back in? its his choice. that said, who even knows if Mimai wants to play Diaz during a playoff push.
I agree, who cares as long as rules aren’t broken. And since the league and union approved, why does anyone care..
However, he will get playing time, Villar just got traded, we need a second basemen. Eddy Alvarez and Jon Berti are nice on the bench but not starters. Diaz getting his feet wet in a playoff race is huge in his development.
Is he good enough to be with the big club? Not a rhetorical question. With the exception of a Pacific League-aided 2019 season he hasn’t hit well enough to deserve to be a major league player.
All the people acting like we shouldn’t complain because it’s the players choice are the same people saying you shouldn’t have a choice in what you do in your personal life (like wear a mask).
Wowzers, really went for a stretch on that one huh
Isn’t it the other way around? Aren’t people who like choice gunna be on the side of choosing whether or not you should wear a mask?
No, because choosing not to wear a mask is choosing to risk *other* people’s wellbeing.
Pangolin.
Looking forward to a good pick in the upcoming draft.
Yeah, it will be nice to see who the Angels draft and then give away for nothing.
Oooof.
I COMPLETELY AGREE. Why on Earth would healthy people not wear a mask. They could very well prevent this from spreading to someone who is at risk.
We should all be trying to slow the spread. That’s just the human thing to do.
And you always wore a mask in regular flu season before COVID, right?
Because you think this is less deadly than the flu. Why would you wear a mask now? I’m confused. Sounds political.
As far as I’m concerned, this is the bottom line, and we’re in total agreement.
Diaz must have learned how to think for himself
This is the same as taking your dog to the vet to get fixed but then realizing you want to breed her to make money on her pups, you made your bed..
Where do people come up with these analogies? It’s not the same at all. Because one decision can’t be reversed(as far as I know), and one obviously can.
It’s like renting a house and then deciding you want to buy one……
I can come up with whatever analogy I want to for the situation. Doesn’t mean it isn’t any less stupid.
Diaz will have to take multiple tests before he’s allowed to come back. Then he’ll be back. You may still be complaining but he’ll be back!
I was going to opt out of commenting but then changed my mind and decided to opt in….felt good
I wonder how many other players who opted out on potential playoff teams will decide to opt back in once it looks like their team will make it in.
I wonder how this will go over with his teammates. I’m sure they’re outwardly happy to have him back but jumping ship when the team was struggling and desperately needing players and now deciding to come back amid a clear postseason push; I can imagine some teammates thinking less of him. Obviously for different reasons, I’ve read that football teams don’t always welcome a player back with open arms after he has been sitting out for contractual reasons.
I was guna have a 3000 calorie supper but man does a salad sound safe.. Screw it all my buddies are eating cheeseburgers, poutine and beers tonight!
For all ya fun haters, some of us still have a sense of humor this day and age. Have a little fun, it’s healthy!
Kakes did the same exact thing albeit much earlier in the season.