4:00pm: Molina, DeJong, Sosa, Fernandez, Whitley and Carlos Martinez have all been placed on the injured list, the Cardinals announced. Veteran infielder Brad Miller, meanwhile, has been activated from the IL. Corresponding roster moves will be announced in the coming days, per the club.
The Cardinals also announced that minor league hitting coordinator Russ Steinhorn, who has been working at the team’s alternate training site, will join the Major League coaching staff. Assistant minor league hitting coordinator Joey Hawkins will head to the alternate site in his place.
10:50am: Mainstay Cardinals backstop Yadier Molina announced today that he is among the players that has tested positive for COVID-19. Starting shortstop Paul DeJong is also among the players to test positive.
The team further announced (with the players’ approval) that infielders Edmundo Sosa and Rangel Ravelo and pitchers Junior Fernandez and Kodi Whitley have been infected with the coronavirus. That would appear to leave one additional player unidentified based upon prior indications of seven positive tests.
Each of these players will obviously be sidelined while recovering, which will hopefully occur in short order. They’ll have to test negative twice before being allowed to resume baseball activities with the organization. Depending upon the amount of time that takes, each player could potentially require some training time before rejoining the active roster.
The most important thing here, obviously, is the health of the players involved and those that have potentially come into contact with them. Based upon recent testing results, the team is hopeful that the spread has been limited to these players and the various staff members that have already tested positive.
From a baseball standpoint, it’s obviously a significant blow to the team’s roster. The 38-year-old Molina has long carried a huge burden behind the dish. DeJong is a high-quality younger player. While the other players had lesser roles, they’re all part of the depth picture. And Whitley seemed primed to emerge as a potentially important part of the club’s bullpen.
Andrew Knizner and veteran Matt Wieters will presumably share duties at the catching position. Filling the void at short could prove tricky, particularly with all three infielders departing the roster at the same moment. There’s no clear option in the 60-man player pool. Utility candidate Max Schrock lacks substantial experience at short. Elehuris Montero and Nolan Gorman are young infielders with talent, but they’re still fairly raw and are both limited to third base.
enter Matt Wheaties
He’s Joe Mauer with power!
I love that! Lol
TBT when his nickname was God
He’s actually more like Jeff Mathis with power
I wish they had the most overhyped player HOF, Matt Wieters would be on the first ballot
Wheat Matters
One more team with all players quarantined and the season will probably be suspended for two weeks min.
This undoubtedly proves that masks are more effective than chest protectors at combatting the unseen enemy.
OMG everyone has had COVID19 by now who cares?
Dumbest take of the day
Dom-est take of the day
Is it really yaketymac?
I don’t know what he means by that, but for players, other than missing time, big deal. These Cardinals play in Busch Stadium. Alcohol is more of a health risk to players than Covid.
Do you really fear for the health of these players? I fear for the health of coaches and managers and every person over 60, but not healthy players.
Players pretty much feel the same way, which is why they go out and have fun.
Please don’t argue that x is worse than COVID. That is never a correct justification for the current situation. If anything, it means we should ALSO be looking at whatever variable you are throwing out there and figuring out how to make it safer for the general public as well.
There are potential long-term effects of COVID-19 – to the lungs and/or heart – that should be a concern for anyone who gets this virus.
“Do you really fear for the health of these players? ”
*Glances at Eduardo Rodriguez*
Talk about selecting on the dependent variable.
And E-Rod is your poster boy. He has a minor heart condition and we don’t even know if it existed before the virus. And we don’t even know if this will affect his career. We don’t know if it will subside. What we do know is that it is not a life threatening condition. And it certainly not as career threatening as what happened to Soroka yesterday.
More players will die and have their life shorten by the use of alcohol than this virus and I don’t know anyone who complains about beer in the clubhouse, Busch Stadium or Coors Field.
Again, bringing up alcohol is irrelevant. Resources should absolutely be invested in making sure it is not a problem as well. However, it is not a new pathogen without a known cure or knowledge of long term effects.
Didn’t you read Halo’s comment? He apparently knows that E-Rod does not have a life threatening condition! We already know everything will be fine, because he’s not currently dead!
In terms of perspective it is completely relevant. Players are not going to die. The flu is more dangerous to people south of 40 than this virus.
You’ll never create a 100% risk free environment. Is this environment any more dangerous than the real world? I don’t think so. E-Rod likely didn’t even get this in camp and wasn’t it mandatory baseball testing led to him finding out he had the virus. Without baseball, he might have never known.
I don’t think there is a lot of perspective. Do you?
Doctors say it’s not a life threatening condition.
Do you know when E-Rod got this virus? And if wasn’t a baseball player and was not subjected to mandatory testing, is it possible he would have never been tested? And therefore never tested positive.
But never let data get in the way of your narrative. It may cause you to think.
Oh yeah, they going out partying it up with the babes because they can’t control the corn dog. This lifestyle will get you covid real fast and that is what these selfish irresponsible players are choosing
Do we have to go over your made-up “data” on Covid-testing, or should I leave that on the other thread?
Iknowmorebaseball
I don’t know that to be true, but if I had to guess, I’d say you are right. It seems that there are a lot of people on these threads who have not lived through their 20 yet.
The CDC is saying they are “trying” not to double count. What does that tell you. But lets say it’s not significantly significant.
Three hundred and fifty less deaths yesterday than two months ago in spite of many more positive tests.
Does that suggest anything to you… Anything? It would to most people. What does it suggest to you?
Well, considering that New York State *alone* was seeing 800-1000 deaths/day in April, and they’re now seeing around 10 or less/day, it tells me that the rest of the country is seeing about 600 or so more deaths per day than they were in April.
We are talking about June. Or go back to May if you would like. Death Numbers are not up, but diagnoses are up?
What does that suggest to you? Anything? Or nothing at all?
Fewer deaths amid greater testing leads me to suspect more younger, healthier are getting COVID-19, and a lower percentage of younger people than older people will die, as is the case with many diseases.
What does it suggest to you, Halo?
gbs42
It suggest a few things to me, and that’s one of them.
1) More people with fewer symptoms are getting tested than they were two months ago.
2) Exactly what you said.
3) The more vulnerable are protecting themselves.
4) We are getting better treatments every single day.
Regardless of where we are on this, do you disagree?
That there’s still a problem?
Technically correct.
Of course it’s still a problem. But that’s all you got?
When it comes to this virus, ideology is interfering with people’s brains.
Per Washington Post *https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/*
June 3 US Covid deaths reported (a Wed): 989
June 4: 1163
June 5: 806
July 1 (a Wed): 683
July 2: 699
July 3: 607
July 29 (last Wed): 1401
July 30: 1249
July 31: 1315
It’s not all I got. I just know I’m not going to change your mind. My point is that you shouldn’t argue something bad is worse. Both are bad. Both need to be addressed in order to reduce the negative impacts to health.
1) seems reasonable
3) maybe – we still have a lot of deaths, and I don’t know if the average age is changing.
4) maybe – we’re trying a lot of things, largely with mixed results
Halo is wrong about the numbers, too. See above. There was a dip over the course of June that has since risen again. Halo likes to project that people ignore facts that don’t suit their narrative, because that is his own MO.
Well baseballpun, that is the definition of Halo Effect – the tendency for an impression created in one area to influence opinion in another area.
You just took numbers from Washington Post. That automatically makes you wrong, Pun. The last time the Washington Post was correct on something was, well, we’re still waiting.
Find a better source for nationwide numbers, then. They’re reporting 153,008 Covid deaths nationwide since Feb. 29. That’s right in line with the number of nationwide deaths I’ve seen reported everywhere.
@Halo11Fan:
‘Do you really fear for the health of these players? I fear for the health of coaches and managers and every person over 60, but not healthy players.’
You realize that COVID is very easily transmitted, right? And that if more players have it, the likelihood that the older coaches contract it skyrockets?
You’ve been downplaying COVID for months, to the point where I recognize your username. Stop. Your comments do not help the situation. Please just stop.
First off Pun, you had false narrative in your stats. They are NOT covid deaths. 100% false. They are covid-related deaths. And this difference is HUGE.
The level of co-morbidities in your “covid deaths” is astoundingly high. If you dont truly understand what this means, then maybe you should be a parrot.
CDC reports 154,471 deaths *https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html*
Johns Hopkins reports 156,041 deaths *https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/*
WHO reports 154,226 deaths *https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us*
Readers, you can rely on these sources, or you can trust “clepto.” You have to live with your own decisions.
I don’t dispute those numbers at all. Mine are slightly different, but close enough? I have no doubt the 4th of July weekend killed a lot of people.
So what are you saying?
We have many many more people testing positive, and many more people dying?
Or we are having many many more people testing positive, and for the most part the number of people who are dying is relatively the same.
Or because we have many many more people testing positive, the death rate is only the beginning?
At least lets find some common ground so I can understand your position.
I could care less what the number is….I know what is in them. Obviously, you dont, Parrot.
Clepto Troll, was that English?
I’m saying that the virus is spreading. It is not contained. It is continuing to cause death at unacceptably high rates and except for a few pockets (notably New York) that had massive spikes early that have been relatively controlled, the country is not in a substantially better position than it was 3 months ago, and that there’s no reason to believe an MLB season will be safer now than if they had proceeded in April or May, which they theoretically didn’t out of safety concerns.
Pray-tell, knower of all things, what are the numbers that we should be using? Whereforth do they originate? Whoeth provides such divination to the great prophet Clepto?
Yes, every news source is wrong except Fox News and the “We Never Mastered High School Math Digest.
OK, I think we opened up and underestimated the stupidity of the people.
Much like baseball.
I agree with you that it’s not in control. It’s never going to be in control until we have a vaccine. But, I don’t believe we have fallen off a precipice either. And i don’t believe this is dangerous for healthy people under 40, which is part of the problem because those are the people who are spreading this.
All death rates are unacceptable, but it was time to let people make decisions. We now know they are incapable of wearing masks and social distancing, and things have tightened up again. But this isn’t China, our goverment tries to avoid controlling its people and our people were pushing back.
Like baseball, I’m confident this was a wake up call. If you are not, I respect that.
But I blame stupid people. The ones actually doing stupid things.
Butthurt much, Pun?
Got any other misrepresentations of data you would like to share??
I wish MLBTR had held to their initial vow to not allow covid minimizing.
I sometimes wonder how the US could be doing so much worse than the rest of the world at handling this and one only needs to look at the MLBTR comment section to understand why
Halo: do you feel the need to flood and pollute EVERY comment board with your typewriter trash? Serious…you need to comment on every single comment? You get paid by the comment, even if it makes no sense??
don’t forget they are listing anyone that dies w covid in their system as a covid death even if they were on their death bed before contracting it or if they die in a car accident or die from something completely unrelated.
Lies. Tell me where exactly anyone ever said that someone who contracted Covid and died in a car accident was counted as a Covid death?
*https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/about-us-cases-deaths.html*
CDC counts two types of Covid deaths: Confirmed and Probable.
Confirmed “Meets confirmatory laboratory evidence.” which means “Detection of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 ribonucleic acid (SARS-CoV-2 RNA) in a clinical specimen using a molecular amplification detection test”
Probable means “[i]Meets clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; [ii].Meets presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence and [iii] Meets vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19”
Clinical Criteria includes:
“At least two of the following symptoms: fever (measured or subjective), chills, rigors, myalgia, headache, sore throat, new olfactory and taste disorder(s)
OR
At least one of the following symptoms: cough, shortness of breath, or difficulty breathing
OR
Severe respiratory illness with at least one of the following:
Clinical or radiographic evidence of pneumonia, OR
Acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).
AND
No alternative more likely diagnosis”
Epidemiologic Linkage means:
“One or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms:
Close contact** with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19 disease; OR
Close contact** with a person with:
clinically compatible illness AND
linkage to a confirmed case of COVID-19 disease.
Travel to or residence in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2.
Member of a risk cohort as defined by public health authorities during an outbreak.”
Shouldn’t you be off injecting yourself with disinfectant, Clepto?
If it bothers you clepto troll, then I’m happy.
Cheers to that, Halo.
Memory loss as well. They are finding covid survivors with brain damage.
Congratulations Yadi, you were the last one to get Covid.
You cannot be serious Dom
That moment when you cared enough to express how much you don’t care.
Technically this is now a bird-flu. That’s news.
Dom I don’t kno if that’s sarcasm but something that requires the country to stay shut down for months and has cost us losing so many Americans, by its nature is relevant.
This is the attitude towards COVID which is shared by many Americans outing the US at great risk and also depriving us baseball fans of a full baseball season. Childish. Stupid.
Halo fan what is your agenda? It’s like COVID-19 is your brother or something. I’ve never heard of something so ridiculous, sticking up for a virus. Criminals need lawyers, viruses need you! Lol
The rich who are getting richer care a lot about who has covid 19, after all there making the vaccine so the more the marry, hasn’t anyone seen V for Vendetta?
Y’all seriously need to learn to be kind to one another. Your political opinion about the illuminati virus is no reason to be so mean to each other. Don’t you see your letting them win?
If this is your take with 160,000 dead in the US and cases still peaking in a lot of areas, you are literally a monster, dude.
Catchers with covid — the quickest way to spread it throughout the game.
Sounds like a very sad support group name.
Molina’s an older dude. I hope he gets well soon
He’s not that kind of old, just old for baseball.
Jamie Moyer was *that* kind of old.
Fingers crossed for Yadi
ROFL! Good reminder there Jon. I think sometimes we forget that “old” in most sports is really just barely middle aged and maybe not even that for the less than elite world.
Uhhhhhh maybe old for a catcher in 2020s upside down baseball world.
Jim Edmonds had it and recoved and he retired a few years after Yadi was called up in 05 old… I think the fake news the POTUS was referencing in 2016 was those around him and their handling of this illuminati virus so he could become a Monarch. Now that’s fake news… Just ask the Ministry of Magic, they’d tell you he was “the boy who lied”
Well that didn’t last long.
*To* test positive? So they’re planning on getting it?
*Rolls eyes*
Tim or Jeff, don’t you think it’s time to add emoji’s? I mean, how much more satisfying would it have been to use an emoji to express how old, tired and numerous these human spell checkers are? =D
Looks like they edited the headline so it makes a bit more sense now. Although I’m not sure what you think “spell check” is.
Ravelo’s probably wishing he took that KBO job
Kim probably wishes he stayed in Korea.
Get well, Yadi!!
Why is Edman not mentioned as the logical starter at short? He’s played plenty of short in the minors and the entire plan this year was to get him more time at shortstop
Exactly. Edman moves to short and Carp takes third base. Plenty of OFs to choose from for the DH spot until DeJong and and Molina are back.
Was literally about to say the same thing. The defense will take a hit but Lane Thomas is probably better at fielding than Fowler so Fowler DH or Carlson will make his debut.
with Ravelo, Sosa, and DeJong out they probably need to call up a INF or two anyway.
Still doesn’t explain the oversight. The way this is written, the Cardinals are so desperate for a shortstop that they would move one of their minor-league third baseman over there. Which is not at all the case. This completely contradicts the statement “there is not clear option on the 60 man.” There is in fact a clear option in Edman.
Tommy Edman we never heard of him, well we heard he plays everywhere BUT SS and catcher. The last statement is true the first is fake news
The article seemed like it was written by someone from Yahoo. Just generic statements written by someone who clearly doesn’t have in-depth knowledge about the Cardinals team, hence the Edman oversight.
Edman at SS and Carp at 3B. I don’t know how the writer couldn’t at least mention that.
So even with all the Cards have done and with all the precautions, this should show that there is nothing to prevent anyone from getting the virus. So why are we not accepting that fact and going back to life as normal? Herd immunity has been the way of the world up until this virus and we are all stronger for it. Hate if you want but the truth is we have survived much worse without masks and social distancing or lock downs.
If the players choose to play, play. If the coaches and trainers want to opt out, opt out. As bad a look as the Marlins/Philly decision was, they chose to play. Let them play. William Devane.
A) Herd immunity is dangerous and would lead to thousands more deaths as well as full hospitals, which means turning away people who have normal, non-COVID needs, which means even more deaths.
B) We’re nowhere near herd immunity.
C) We have no idea what the long-term effects of having COVID are.
D) Most countries have figured out how to drastically cut down on COVID cases and have gotten relatively back to normal. It’s through shutdowns, mask-wearing, and social distancing. The US is one of few countries who simply cannot get their act together and follow these very simple guidelines, and it’s 100% because of people like you. Here you are advocating for herd immunity and thousands of deaths instead of simple precautions that have been PROVEN to work in other countries. Stop it.
teams that want to win will avoid getting positive results. Covid is basically the new steroids test. Done to appease the public. Just another aspect of the game you have to master.
Does it make you hit the ball further without making your wee wee turn into a wee?
so that’s the current list of known COVID infections in the Cards. Martinez apparently reported a positive test a few days ago.
They should add Kramer Robertson to the 60 man. Can play 2nd and SS so gives some flexibility.
Giddyup.
Yadi went out to bars in st Charles recently. This was avoidable
That’s a new one, haven’t heard that one yet. What bars? Main Street????
Can’t Edman play SS (with Carpenter or Miller at 3B)?