With the deadline in the rearview mirror, we’ll look back at each NL East team’s trade activity over the past month.
Atlanta Braves
- Acquired cash considerations from Padres for 1B Yonder Alonso
- Acquired LHP Tommy Milone from Orioles for two players to be named later
Miami Marlins
- Acquired RHP James Hoyt from Indians for cash considerations
- Acquired RHP Jesús Tinoco from Rockies for RHP Chad Smith
- Acquired a player to be named later (reportedly OF Griffin Conine) from Blue Jays for INF/OF Jonathan Villar
- Acquired OF Starling Marte from Diamondbacks for LHP Caleb Smith, RHP Humberto Mejia and a player to be named later (reportedly LHP Julio Frias)
New York Mets
- Acquired cash considerations from Pirates for RHP Tyler Bashlor
- Acquired OF Billy Hamilton from Giants for RHP Jordan Humphreys
- Acquired RHP Ariel Jurado from Rangers for a player to be named later and cash considerations
- Acquired RHP Miguel Castro from Orioles for LHP Kevin Smith and a player to be named later or cash considerations
- Acquired C Robinson Chirinos from Rangers for a player to be named later
- Acquired INF Todd Frazier from Rangers for a player to be named later
Philadelphia Phillies
- Acquired a player to be named later from Rays for RHP Edgar García
- Acquired RHP David Hale from Yankees for RHP Addison Russ
- Acquired RHP Heath Hembree and RHP Brandon Workman from Red Sox for RHP Nick Pivetta and RHP Connor Seabold
- Acquired a player to be named later and cash considerations from Pirates for LHP Austin Davis
- Acquired RHP David Phelps from Brewers for three players to be named later (reportedly RHP Brandon Ramey, RHP Israel Puello and RHP Juan Geraldo)
Washington Nationals
- None
The Human Rain Delay
You have to wonder is the cash considerations for Yonder Alonso was more money or less than JP Anthropaulus had in his pockets at the time
Marvels MAGA Man
Recap: WTF BRAVES and NATIONALS, Philly still spending stupid money on trade acquisitions, and everybody else was all over the place.
AtlSoxFan
Nationals need some kind of pass on this one.
Their gameday revenue is zero.
Their MASN revenue is basically zero with angelos messing around with payments.
Revenue sharing was suspended for 2020.
Basically every dollar of operating cost is coming out of ownership pockets and loans, and, rich as owners are, they don’t keep hundreds of millions in liquidity on hand, nor is a pandemic the time to liquidate assets.
Be thankful the nats didn’t become sellers.
AtlSoxFan
Braves also need a limited free pass.
They have no gate revenues.
They owe debt service on the bonds for the new stadium.
They may still owe some money on infrastructure for the battery development, and, all the retail and restaurants probably either paid no or reduced rents plus near nothing in royalties on sales due to covid. That’s another loss in revenue stream.
It will be interesting to see what their financial disclosures for this year end up being, but, I expect there needs to be some level of understanding on not taking on extra salary or overpaying extra prospects to have other teams include cash.
bravesfan
AA already said finances weren’t a reason for this horrid trade deadline for the Braves. I don’t really believe him, but until financials are released, we have to believe him :/
UGA_Steve
I am probably in the few, but I am glad the Braves didn’t send prospects off for one month rentals or borderline improvements.
Some of the nonsense we were hearing rumors about that were horrible
– Going after old man Seager and moving Riley in another deal?
– Trading one of Waters, Pache, or Langeliers in a package for Lance Lynn?
– Trading for Minor? Been there, done that, wouldn’t waste a top 30 prospect.
Realistically, the Braves only real need was starting pitching. We could use a #2 or #3 guy, but that meant Clevinger .. or possibly Lynn. Lynn was basically made unobtainable by Texas with them asking for packages including one or more top 10 prospects (closer to the Clevinger deal than the Minor deal). Clevinger was a great get by the Padres, who were able to move below average MLB guys and a few blocked prospects. I am not certain how the Braves could have overcome that offer without including some players Braves fans should be wanting to hold onto (our top prospects are generally not blocked for the next 7-8 years like the ones SD moved).
I would rather the Braves stand pat and not sacrifice the future if there was no clear path to make them front runners. I don’t think they would be favorites over LA even with Clevinger and Lynn both. Maybe, but it would be close. So why blow up your rebuild?
Not to mention, most of the really solid contenders did not make moves to speak of at the deadline. It was all the fringe teams. Braves have probably still making the playoffs and with the Dodgers standing pat they haven’t lost ground there.
WouldSettleForWildcard
Despite his status as a Bulldog, I agree with Steve. 😉 NOT parting with Acuña, Albies, Anderson, etc. at previous trade deadlines looks totally brilliant now. One of the young guys we didn’t give up this year may turn out to be worth a lot more than a year or two of a relatively high end starter. Some commenters seem to think the Braves can just go out and get whoever they want or need. If it worked that way, all 30 teams would be stocked with all-stars.
RunDMC
I don’t think they could go out and get whomever they want, but we’re talking about Drew Waters included in a trade for Clev – there’s been questions about Waters. If Pache is our CF of the future, I don’t think we’re getting full value of Waters, whose hit tool is questionable with strikeouts and doesn’t have much power. How is going to be a COF option then? I’m more worried that he’ll go the route of Jordan Schafer, heralded prospect to flame out, getting nothing in return. Clev was controllable for another 2 seasons.
AndyMeyer
What rebuild? The team is coming off of back to back NL East titles. They are rich in talent and prospects yet they do nothing to better their current roster.
You wouldn’t even give a bottom prospect for Mike Minor? Even in his down year, he’s probably better than the slop they’re trotting out there other than Fried.
They trade for Tommy Milone who got blown up by the Phillies
bravesiowafan
Have you focused on waters while he’s been in the minors? He’s been amazing. On top of that him and Pache have been pushing one another to get better you don’t think that won’t improve him when he’s on the big league club when he’s excelled at every level so far? Your logic on waters must be one of some lame espn nobody because waters is considered an elite prospect for a reason.
WouldSettleForWildcard
FWIW, I almost always agree with your comments. You are thoughtful and knowledgeable when you opine, and nothing I said was aimed at you. My frustration is with the number of people whose comments lambast the Braves for “not wanting to win“ or “being only about profit.“ Some people seem to think that the Braves’ lack of moves is indicative of a general lack of will to win, like if they really cared they would just make big deals and bring in great players. It is so much more difficult than that, and that was the gist of my comment.
Lovinmlb
I liked Philly moves. I think they get in. Kinda think Marlin’s will too. If Mets nats braves wanted to contend I think they needed some starting pitching. Even just as ok guy.
AtlSoxFan
Problem with pitching is either it cost an ultra premium, or, wasn’t much better than what teams had.
Most affordable guys (and some premium cost ones) available had a double edged short sample. They were uncharacteristically good, with BABIP showing unsustainable (cite to Lynn and others), or were uncharacteristically bad, and having thrown 30-something IP there’s no way to know what their year really looked to be. Then there’s lots of injuries likely due to lack of slow ST ramp up.
Hard to plunk down lots of prospect capital for another 30 days worth of use this year instead of run what you’ve got and look again in the offseason.
MetsFan22
Mets. Rangers trade was not bad. Mets struggle to hit lefties and they got fraizer who kills lefties.
Orioles trade I liked. Castro Kid is nasty and smith is nothing more than a back end starter at best. Mets were smart bc they realized that stroman and Thor were out and they shouldn’t go all out and waste good prospects but also make the team a little better bc they are only 2.5 games out of a playoffs spot after doing horrible. But I still think they sufferd to much SP injuries this year to make it. Healthy stro and Thor they are easily in 2nd or 1st.
Nats are about to enter long rebuild and waste sotos career
Marlins aren’t a playoff team. The sooner they learn that the better. I hope they don’t get their hopes up.
Phillies will probably finish 2nd or 1st. They got bullpen pieces who aren’t nobody’s now. Now before you brag about it. You were the only team in the division that was mostly healthy this year. It would have been sad if you didn’t make the playoffs. On paper you are probably the still the 4th best team in front of the marlins and behind the Nats.
Braves again don’t make a big move and settle for milone who isn’t good. They’ll be bounce in the first round of the playoffs yet again..
@DaOldDerbyBastard
You’re coming off as a total homer and I’m a Mets fan.
RunDMC
You mean Mets don’t have the best offense the NL East??
VonPurpleHayes
Exactly. I thought the Mets offense was feared throughout the land, and now Todd Frazier is their savior. Come on…
MetsFan22
They do lol…. look at the numbers. He RISP number over a year will even out and the Mets would score more than Braves. Our 7th hitter smith is arguably better than your 4th Ozuna..
MetsFan22
They still have the best hitters in the NL east and its not really close 1-9
AndyMeyer
“They still have the best hitters in the NL East and it’s not really close 1-9”
The Phillies and Braves are 3rd and 7th respectively in runs scored per game. The Metropolitans are a mediocre 20th in MLB.
How do they have the best hitters again??
MarlinsFanBase
MetsFan22 is the biggest Mets homer on this site. We love humoring him. Nothing the Mets do is wrong. In his eyes they are the greatest team in MLB history with the worst luck.
He makes statements that remind me of two moments in comedy as follows:
From “The Forty Year Old Virgin” when the character Jay says to Andy, “I think you’re a good-looking cat…I don’t think anybody knows it…and I don’t think anybody can see it…”
or
From “The Boondocks” when Riley says to Thug-nificient, “You’re like a musical genius, like Ray Charles, but without the ability to play piano…or the ability to sing or compose music…”
There’s some way these quotes can be combined to fit what MetsFan22 thinks about the Mets.
MetsFan22
It’s been 40 games……
tidybowlman
@AndyMeyer: The Mets lead ALL of MLB in OBP this year, even with Alonso and McNeil having down seasons. So technically, he’s right..
the Mets have the best hitting team in MLB.
They don’t have the best offense though, because they don’t hit with RISP.
It’s actually really odd.
VonPurpleHayes
The Phillies are in 3rd and played less games. Also had MetsFan been talking about OBP specifically, I’d agree, but hitting with RISP is something the Mets are terrible at.
VonPurpleHayes
in 3rd in OBP i mean.
Joggin’George
The bad in RISP thing is really more a matter of bad luck. It’s not a skill that the whole team just forgot to do this year. But they have been terrible at it.
kodiak920
He always does.
Joggin’George
A decent back end starter who can go 5 plus innings is much more valuable than a reliever. I kind of hate this trade.
VonPurpleHayes
Also the comment about the Phillies being completely healthy is ridiculous. Why do you think the bullpen was bad? I won’t even count Robertson and Seranthony who were out at the beginning of the year. Let’s talk about this year. Hector Neris, Tommy Hunter, Ranger Suarez, Jose Alvarez, Reggie McLain all spent time on the injured list. Scott Kingery was out with covid, and is still experiencing lingering effects of that. Jay Bruce has quad issues as always. Outfielders Adam Haseley and Roman Quinn also missed some time.
Now I know the Braves and Mets had a ton of injuries, but it’s ridiculous to ignore the Phillies injuries, especially to the bullpen. I get that you’re a Met fan, but please don’t spread false information.
Do you know why the Braves won the division in 2019? Depth. The Braves were able to cope with their injuries. When, for example, the Phillies starters went down, the team tanked. The Braves were able to cope with injuries because of their deep bench. 2020 seems to be about depth more than ever. The Braves depth is showing to be a strength again.
MetsFan22
Oh wow the Phillies lost Robertson who isn’t even good anymore bc of how hurt he is. The only good bullpen piece they lose the the ser Anthony. Please don’t compare the injures the Mets and the Phillies have had. The Phillies should be in first. It’s sad they arent
MarlinsFanBase
Is there anything that the Mets ever do wrong and the other 4 NL East teams do right in MetsFairweatherHomerFan22’s eyes?
Yeah that feared Mets lineup needed the great Todd Frazier.
And the Marlins, they are the scrub fighter in the fight against a better fighter, but is not being taken seriously…but showed up to fight…and is winning rounds…while the better fighter is not taking it seriously. How many rounds are the Marlins going to get? It’s going to get later real fast this year.
Did anyone let the Mets know that they have 25 games left and are 5 games under .500? With their remaining schedule, they would have to go 15-10 against that schedule just to finish .500; 16-9 to be above .500.
It involves the following:
7 against the Phillies
4 against the Nats
4 against the O’s
3 against the Rays
3 against the Braves
3 against the Blue Jays
1 against the Yankees
17 of those 25 are against teams that are .500 or better – 10 of which are teams that are playing top notch. The 7 against the .500 team is against the team that swept the Mets in their first 3-game series.
Of the 8 games against losing teams, the O’s are not an easy series. And the Nats still have enough talent to be a problem, especially if they are looking to close the year on a good note.
VonPurpleHayes
It doesn’t matter. If the Mets finish the season with a losing record, MetsFan will blame the Syndergaard injury and Stroman’s opt out. Even though the Mets lackluster offense and horrendous defense are two huge problems. Those two injuries explain everything. Even though the Marlins lost the majority of their roster to virus-related concerns. Even though the Braves and Nats starting rotation was devastated. Even though the Phillies already-shaky bullpen has been crippled with injury. If Syndergaard and Stroman played this year, the Mets would have won 1000 games.
MarlinsFanBase
Yep, that is exactly what his excuse is. He made it after the first series of the year. I remember jokingly responding that, if he can make that excuse, then I can make the excuse that the Marlins were in first place until Covid hit 2/3rds of the roster.
After all, Syndergaard and Stroman’s careers have shown that they would have no doubt put the Mets over the top, like they’ve done in previous years.
But let’s him keep squawking about the Marlins. If they falter at some point out of playoff position, he can talk about how right he was. If they maintain playoff position, we can see how he entertains us with his excuses…but I’m sure he’ll disappear like he’s done most of the season.
Oh, and if the Marlins somehow win it all this season, we will need to send someone to his house to make sure that they keep him away from bed sheets, rope, stringy things, and all sharp objects.
MetsFan22
It wasn’t just those two. Our whole rotation has missed at least one start……
MetsFan22
I love how none of the marlins prospects are hitting lol. Have fun having 5 more losing season lol
MetsFan22
The Mets would be in first rn with a healthy rotations and that’s not even a debate….. our defense is bad but our rotation has been horrible…. our rotation turns elite If
Degrom
Thor
Degrom
Peterson
Joggin’George
Pretty much every team would be much better right now if none of the things that have gone for them went wrong. Declaring a team the best based on “ifs” and what might have occurred if everything went perfectly seems odd to me. Perhaps relying on the whole three aces thing and expecting them to all stay healthy at the same time isn’t a great plan.
VonPurpleHayes
I always loved your unwavering optimism, but now your comments are ridiculous.
You can’t brush off the Phillies injuries as insignificant. They lost the majority of their bullpen to injury. And that’s not even including Robertson and Seranthony who would most definitely be there two best relievers if they were healthy.
You can’t dismiss the Marlins talent. They continue to win games, including beating the invincible Degrom yesterday. You can’t dismiss the Braves ability to win even without any decent starting pitching.
You can’t say the Mets offense is the best in the division because it isn’t. The Phillies offense for example is definitely better. In 5 less games played than the Mets, the Phillies have scored 17 more runs than the them. The Braves and Nationals also have had more success offensively than the Mets. Alonso and McNeil may not be the players people thought they were. The Mets are also a horrific team defensively.
There are obvious flaws here. Of course having Thor would be nice and I do not claim that injury is not a big deal, but having Thor and Stro does not put this team in 1st. You’re ignoring the other problems. Like most of the NL East, the Mets have huge holes and are not a pitcher away from being great.
MarlinsFanBase
So, @MetsFairweatherHopmerFan22 says “It wasn’t just those two. Our whole rotation has missed at least one start……”
Clearly that is far worse than the Marlins losing 2/3rds of their roster, which consisted of 3/5ths of it’s SPs; 2/3rds of its bullpen; half of the starting lineup; etc. Yep, clearly far worse. It’s also clearly worse than the Braves losing 4 of their 5 SPs. How could the Mets ever get through this!? The Marlins and Braves definitely have been lucky.
@MetsFairweatherHopmerFan22 also says “The Mets would be in first rn with a healthy rotations and that’s not even a debate….. our defense is bad but our rotation has been horrible…. our rotation turns elite If Degrom, Thor, Degrom, Peterson”
Wow, if they can clone deGrom, they would be set. What happened to the great Stroman and the great Matz? Thor? I’m trying to remember when he has ever made a difference other than media hype. Even with 2 deGroms, you would not be in first place. That is not debatable because it’s laughable to think so.
And your defense is indeed horrible. You know the funny thing is you continue to knock the Marlins while failing to see what areas the Marlins are better than the Mets in. Defense without a doubt. Team speed, running and execution of manufacturing style offense. Despite still trying to get players back from covid, getting the most out of the supporting roster (bullpen, bench, and alternate site players), especially the pitchers.
Keep ignoring the Mets failures and underestimating the rest of the division. It must be fun to live in a delusional world, but make sure to not drink too much of that Mets Kool-Aid. That stuff can be toxic.
Joggin’George
As a Mets fan myself I can certainly confirm that our fans have tended to waaay over-rate Syndergaard. He’s a top of the line pitcher but a lot of fans actually rate him as the best in the game, or at least right behind deGrom but thats ridiculous.
MetsFan22
How many teams have lost their 2-3 for the whole year who are really good not just 2-3 who would be 4-5 in other team. Plus the Mets have lost their ace for 1 game. Their 4-5 for 2 games and maybe more and they are forced two use 2 relievers as starters. One of them being their best reliever … Plus Alonso is having a rough stretch that wouldn’t have lasted the whole year and McNeil is playing hurt while missing a week. They were our two best hitters last year. Cano was hurt for 2 weeks and our starting SS missed games too. Plus the Mets have hit amazing but have hit horrible with men on base. That would have evened out throughout a 162 games season. The Mets have had about the worst luck any team has had. So if you think they are 10-15 just bc they aren’t a good team than you need to re evaluate…
VonPurpleHayes
I never heard so many excuses for a mediocre team. It’s ridiculous.
“The Mets have had about the worst luck any team has had.” This takes the cake. I can no longer take anything you say seriously. The Mets can do no wrong. They’re the best team ever.
The Braves lost pitchers that I’d argue are better than Syndergaard and Stroman. The Braves are in first place. Also Alonso isn’t just having a bad stretch. It’s very common for power hitters to struggle in their sophomore year because pitchers aren’t throwing them strikes anymore. The pitchers also have tape to work with. Hoskins went through the same thing with the Phillies. Alonso will be good again, but this isn’t a slump; it’s him learning how to adjust. So keep making those excuses. The Mets were healthy last year…finished in 3rd. It was just bad luck though. I wonder what it will be next year?
MarlinsFanBase
This is awesome!
Yeah, the Marlins losing 2/3rds of their roster and having to play with scrubs is definitely not as bad as the Mets problems. After all, having to play for a few weeks with scrubs off the trash heap of releases and the waiver wire, and prospects who are not ready, is clearly not as bad as the Mets situation of losing 2 overrated pitchers for the season and deGrom for one whole game. That definitely is far worse than having to play with Pablo Lopez and Eliezer Hernandez as our only two SPs and every other game being a bullpen game of mostly guys that shouldn’t be on an MLB roster, while have 3 guys every night in the lineup that were batting below .200.
Yeah, this is not as bad as the Mets have had it! Heck, it’s not as bad as the Mets Covid incident affected two backup players. That’s far worse than losing 2/3rds of a roster.
To think that most people would look at the Mets situation and feel that they have been seriously lucky compared to their NL East rivals, especially the Braves and Marlins.
I agree. This set of excuses for the Mets loses all credibility from this point forward. Absolute blind, Mets Kool-Aid drinking and Goggles wearing, homer.
And the funniest part is that you’re so blind that you don’t even realize how bad it makes the rest of the Mets roster that is healthy looks.
metvibes
I’ll tell you if they were good moves once I find out who those players to be named later are, considering Waggy the GM.
Oddvark
Nationals have apparently given up their title defense after a terrible start to the short season. Braves lack of activity was disappointing but not entirely surprising. Phillies keep trying, but I don’t think these moves will work any better than their other recent ones. Same could be said for the Mets. And the Marlins just confuse me.
FSogol
Why trade pieces and prospects for a 29 day rental player? The Braves and Nats both did the right thing. Teams are built and congeal together. You can’t just assemble parts and expect everything to work I’m looking at the Phillies and Padres here. There is a certain gasping desperation here, like we spend all this money, something has to work!
VonPurpleHayes
Ummm the Nationals spent a lot of money last year to bring together a championship caliber team. That’s exactly what the Padres and Phillies are trying to do, albeit less successfully. You can’t always get lucky with your farm system.
OofAndYikes
What are you confused about regarding the Marlins? They have a surplus of pitching, LHP Rogers is looking promising and 7 years younger than Smith, Mejia will be a decent reliever at the MLB level, and Julio Frias is a rule 5 eligible prospect who hasn’t pitched above A ball. With Villar, they turned a 14th round pick with a fringe reliever ceiling into a power bat project. They weren’t going to resign Villar for several reasons and it also came out that they were frustrated that he wasn’t buying into the team.
If they’re out of the playoff race next year, which is highly likely, they can sell Marte and probably get a higher return than what they paid. Not really hard to see
MarlinsFanBase
@OofAndYikes
Well stated.
People don’t realize what pitching prospects we have. Caleb Smith was expendable after it was clear that Lopez and Hernandez have improved to hold their spots; Sanchez and Rogers came up and have shown so far that they should stay up; Alcantara is back. There is also that we couldn’t trade Urena because it would be selling at rock bottom. Better to bring him back as part of a 6-man pitching staff to accommodate so many make-up games.
As for Villar, yes it was clear that the Marlins were not happy. Villar is a nice statistical player, but was making all sorts of gaffes and doing his own things. Just in the last couple of weeks, he’s killed a couple of rallies by swinging at borderline pitches on 3-0 and 3-1 counts in situations when pitchers were struggling with the strike-zone. He had a couple of moments when he seemed to half-tail it on steal attempts to get caught easily (one on a delayed steal). Then, I believe the final straw was when he made the last out in that game on a steal he beat out easily, but slid right into the fielder blocking him when he easily could have touched the bag – almost grabbing the fielders foot and pushing it between him and the base. He almost played like he wanted out or is a very dumb player.
MetsFan22
They shouldn’t be buying. They aren’t a good team. They are lucky it’s a 60 game season and they might sneak in. If it was a 162 game they would be the pirates of last year.
jyosuckas
Lost in the article and the comments is the Marlins traded for Mr. Marlin’s son
MarlinsFanBase
So true. To me, that move, while clearly was about moving on from Villar, it also seems to be about grabbing a prospect who, in the very least, can reconcile their relationship with Mr. Marlin after a poor decision to let him go at the beginning of the new ownership. Good move by the Marlins. We needed to reconcile with Conine. Hopefully they can do the same with Andre Dawson and Tony Perez. They should also see about bringing in Mike Lowell and Cliff Floyd. Perhaps Al Leiter too. Build our Marlins culture along with what Jeter and Michael Jordan bring with their knowledge of winning cultures. And give Pat Riley and Dwayne Wade free entrance for life so they can come in with that Heat Culture.
Joggin’George
A big yes on Cliff Floyd. During his time with the Mets his personality and leadership skills were very impressive.
AtlSoxFan
@Anthony Franco – quick edit I also put in the AL east: red sox also owe the phillies a PTBNL for the pivetta/seabold trade (or addtl cash)
dclivejazz
The Mets, Marlins and Phillies all Made some improvements. The Mets and Phillies also unloaded some players that really weren’t helping..
The Nats probably should have been sellers at least to some extent. I wonder if they felt they weren’t being offered enough for pieces they could have traded. There’s a case to be made for standing pat. But I hope it’s not a mirage.
Natsman1
The Nats were not sellers, never were. Aside from The Braves, The NL East is so mediocre + the expanded playoff format = everyone in the East should be buyers.
bravesfan
Right, even the marlins could make it in this division… but as a Braves fans I’ll caution you to say the Braves are not mediocre… it’s kinda crazy that we are in 1st place with only 1 legitimate starter and thank god he’s really good. I mean, we straight up don’t have anything else…. our success has been a lot of luck and thank god for a strong offense. Until we lock down pitching, I’d consider the Braves mediocre at best a touch above
bravesfan
Look, I’ll say it…. Braves just punted the rest of the season. Any baseball fan full well knows are rotation is more than a mess and can not sustain the current success. Much less carry that success in the playoffs, much less win a World Series. The market proved that some options were expensive, but others were very affordable to go grab for this season. I was one of the first to say “can’t mortgage the future, next year is our year”. …. but after years of saying this…. it’s getting old. Us Braves fans spend our hard earned money to watch the Braves, buy merchandise, etc… and every year Mgmt insults is with something like this. Last years bullpen moves were ok, but let’s me honest… those move needed to happen just like more moves needed to happen for our rotation. Very frustrating
braveshomer
I mean its the same crap every year…low end moves, and cheap free agent signings….It’ll be the same next year and the year after as we keep hoping our Farm system will get us out of the 1st round of the playoffs…buckle up! it’s not changing…smh
RunDMC
Yes, very frustrating, but between presumed financial limitations (AtlSoxFan did a great job detailing in another comment) & more sellers than most other years inflating prices, I can only imagine what some of their asks were. You’d think we would come away with more than Milone though after talking about having prospect capital from years of building a rich farm, though we send content on letting that capital depreciate in value. They will definitely be tested.
bravesfan
No doubt. I just can’t imagine that a Bundy or Musgrove would have cost terribly a lot. Walker didn’t cost hardly anything, he would have been an upgrade. A lot of people are zero’d in on the clevinger deal…which was a decent haul for that kind of pitcher. I just don’t think it would have taking anywhere near that for at least 1 or two of the other more reasonable options out there. U nailed it right on the head, we keep letting our assets depreciate to the point that we can’t flip them for a proven player. Allard is sorta an example of that last year. Martin is really good, but allards prospect status was sky high at one point. Could have traded him for more. My fear is the Wrights, Wilson’s, Touki’s of our farm are starting to float into that same boat if not already too far in
RunDMC
Re: Bundy/Musgrove – while GM Ben Cherington was trying to sell everything PIT had, with Musgrove injured in the short-term (currently on IL) and cheap/controllable through 2023 – they weren’t going to sell low on him. Even if ATL believed he was worth some non-Waters prospects, you couldn’t really depend on him this year all that much.
While you’d think LAA would do the smart thing and sell high on Bundy, they need him to contend next season. Considering how little they’re getting from the rest of that rotation (they rank 27 of 30 in starter’s team ERA), I can imagine they weren’t giving him away. Would have loved to see Newcomb sent back to LAA (though obvs not the headliner).
braveshomer
It’ll never truly change until we get an actual owner…Braves will fodder in mid-to-low market payroll with very little incremental increases year after year…all the while being a top 7 market city…Ha! I’m changing my user name to Arthur Blank officially lol
arthur blank_for owner
Ahh this feels better lol
TradeAcuna
People still think the Braves care about winning?
braveshomer
ha good timing…how do you constantly name change so easily?!…im looking to make a change myself lol
VonPurpleHayes
Question for you, who’s the Madison Bumgarner the Braves should have gotten in 2020 and why haven’t you changed your name to reflect this yet?
DarkSide830
Braves – F – Failed too add a study SP or two.
Marlins – C – made solid trades but I dont think they should be buying, especially not players ay a premium like Marte.
Mets – B/C – didnt pay much dor their upgrades but didnt make any big ones that will likely push the needle.
Phillies – A/B – Im probably a bit biased here, but I believe the Phillies upgraded where they needed it and got these upgrades for relatively little overall. (namdely Phelps)
Nationals – C – Probably should have either bought or sold lightly, but did well not to do either too hard.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Braves – A
No knee jerk reaction is needed in this bizrarre, truncated season.. Any team on any given day could win the world series this year. No need to dip into the future for this *asterisk* season.
DarkSide830
except the could have had someone like Minor for basically nothing. no need for a big move, just need somebody to fill that void.
Mjm117
Marlins made solid trades by bringing in much a needed offensive bat but get a C from you (a phillies fan) because you feel they should still be in “rebuild” mode., yeah that makes all the sense in the world. Not to mention the fact that they gave up players that were not part of their future. .
FYI Fish have a better shot at the postseason than Mets, Nats, and Phillies.
Oh and btw that premium player the Marlins should not have traded for just hit the go-ahead HR to win vs the Blue Jays tonight. STUPID MARLINS!
BravesSteelersCle
So I checked rumors no less than 50 times yesterday. I too was very much pushing for us to get Clevinger. I would understand go ing a larger package because of his control. But when I saw what that package would have looked like I was a little ok we didn’t do it. I read a couple places it included Waters, Alex Jackson, Davidson, Dunn and Shewmake plus at least another prospect. That is a lot. Yes I also know we seriously need to go for a big move to make a run in the post season at some point. These end of the career 1 year signings for SP are getting old!!
BravesSteelersCle
As for the Marlins, I knew they would eventually fall out of the race. In fact, I even when they were in first, I was rooting for them to beat the Phillies, Mets and Nationals because I was more worried about them later in season. Let’s just hope our pen can hold up going more innings that our rotation. Not a good recipe for success in the post season.
Papabueno
I’m a huge Nationals fan and I think they should have traded one of their vets on expiring contracts, adding a prospect or two to their weak farm system. There is no chance they make a run this season without Strasburg.