Just-promoted White Sox infielder Nick Madrigal is headed directly to the injured list. He has been diagnosed with a separated shoulder, GM Rick Hahn told reporters including James Fegan of The Athletic (Twitter link).
Fortunately, it sounds as if the prognosis is generally good. Madrigal could return to action by the end of the month, Hahn says. It is still possible he’ll also require surgery after the campaign ends.
The South Siders also reported rather promising news on both Carlos Rodon and Reynaldo Lopez. They’re both dealing with shoulder problems but don’t appear to have structural damage. In each case, a return to the MLB rotation could be several weeks away.
Hahn further weighed in on veteran slugger Edwin Encarnacion. He’s said to be dealing with some SC joint inflammation. It’s a day to day situation at the moment, so it sounds as if the hope is Encarnacion won’t be out for any notable stretch.
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jnoch2008
Whos being brought up from schaumburgh? Maybe a pitcher.
ASapsFables
Rosters are being pared from 30 to 28 prior to Thursday’s game. Madrigal’s placement on the IL will be one. Another cut will also be necessary. Tim Anderson is expected to join the team next week when his own IL stint is up. He’s resumed working out at the White Sox alternate site in Schaumburg.
Jim Tom
Nicky Delmonico got sent to alternative site. So that’s the other move
burrows_ ghost
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Whifff
Karma bit him hard as he was injured while making the first out of the inning at 3rd! But I’m rooting for him to get back ASAP. He seems like a great guy when he isn’t making base running blunders.
ChiSox_Fan
Thrown out at the plate a few games ago too.
Not sure whether Nick’s fault or the coach’s fault who sent him!
champion1701
Damn. I hope nick has a quick recovery. I hate seeing anyone get hurt, especially any of the draftees out of Oregon State. He was so exciting to see during Oregon’s playoff push and win of the college WS.
Idioms for Idiots
Wow, it’s one thing to get bit by the injury bug, but this is like a rock getting thrown at a hornet’s nest and the team getting stung repeatedly from it. It happens, usually not quite like this. Though this happened to the Yankees last year and they still did very well, so the excuse can only go so far (though the Yanks were a far better team than the Sox are). It could be a lot worse, at least they haven’t been riddled with positive COVID-19 results (not yet anyway).
I just wish Madrigal had more games under his belt before this injury occurred. But such is life. I’m not nearly as concerned with EE, as I would like to see Collins get more AB’s. Not that I’m hoping for a serious injury to EE, because I’m not. But I’m not complaining if Collins gets more playing time.
lilojbone
Collins needs more AB if he wants to improve.
Dogbone
A lot less ‘swing and miss’, wouldn’t hurt him either.
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@Dogbone
Ho, ho, that was hilarious!
What’s actually funny is when a troll tries to critique a MLB hitter’s approach, yet if he ever had to face even a Mark Buehrle fastball, he would be reduced to curling in the fetal position and sucking his thumb the rest of the day wanting his mommy.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Not really a valid comeback, 83sox94wino5, In this case, Dogbone is actually right. I know, I’m as shocked as anyone. But the fact remains that in 2018, Collins K’d 158 times in 418 ABs, then the next year 140 times in 387 ABs. That’s a combined 37% K-rate, with most of that action in the minors. Really not that good.
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@hyraxwithaflamethrower
Yes, his K rate history is awful, but you could say almost every prospect (besides Madrigal) needs to cut down on the K rate. Granted the K rates of most (if not all) the other prospects aren’t as profound as Collins, but his K rate alone isn’t a death sentence in MLB.
Yoan’s first season was historical in regards to K’s, and obviously he’s turned out fine. Take it one step further and look at Mike Trout. He had 184 K’s in ’14 (most in MLB) and still won the MVP. If there’s a weakness in Trout’s game, it’s the K’s. But with the numbers Trout puts up every year, you’ll never hear a complaint about his K’s, and rightfully so.
BTW, I’m not comparing Collins in an way to Trout, because he will never come remotely close to Trout at any point of his career (a disclaimer aimed at Dogbone, because I see that troll comment coming a mile away).
The problem with Collins this year is the same one in June/July last year: he plays 1 or 2 games a week. How is he going to develop is he’s riding the bench most of the season? Batting practice will only do so much. He tore it up in the minors after he got sent down last July, and he wasn’t horrible when he came back up in Sept (far better than what he did in June/July). He was playing most of the time in Sept.
This is what I’m referring to when I’d like to see more of him in the lineup. It’s hard to fix his K rate when he rarely plays.
Megatron2005
Not as bad as I initially thought.
king joffrey
The last time I separated my shoulder I did not grab my forearm in pain.
Dogbone
Yep King, just spit on it, and rub it in!!! How bout your last concussion?
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@Dogbone
And the pot calls the kettle black.
whitesoxfan24
He wasn’t grabbing his forearm in pain. He was putting his hand on his forearm to provide support because with a separated shoulder, your arm is basically dangling, causing more pain. This is why slings are used.
ChiSox_Fan
It’s frustrating that neither Nick nor Luis know how to slide safely.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Yolmer we miss ya!
leftyleftylefty
That base running was that high baseball IQ the Sox keep talking about.
ASapsFables
I don’t recall Avisail Garcia making too many smooth plays and perfect throws from CF while he was with the White Sox for 6 seasons. His effort had to be perfect to nail Madrigal on a bang-bang play at 3B. Generally you don’t want to see a runner make the first out at 3B but Madrigal’s call was instinctive and 99.9.% of the time he would have been safe. I’ll take those odds in any MLB scenario, especially early in a ballgame and against the oppositions ace pitcher.
In this era of advanced analytics aggressive base running seems to be on the wane but as a 64-year old fan who remembers much of the White Sox ‘Go-Go era I still love to see it in operation. This includes stealing bases, hit and runs, bunting when necessary with certain hitters and being aggressive on the bases. The White Sox have a young lineup that looks quite capable of mashing the ball but there will be games when small ball is necessitated, especially in colder weather, during the postseason and versus excellent pitchers. Tonight’s 1-0 defeat to the Brewers was an example of such a game with strong pitching on both sides and where many well hit balls to the outfield didn’t fly over the wall.
The White Sox also feature many hitters who can mash and run including Luis Robert, Yoan Moncada and Tim Anderson in addition to a plus running high contact batter in Madrigal. Why not utilize all their skills in order to maximize their offensive output? Nothing drives opposing managers, pitchers and defenses crazy like aggressive base running. I saw enough uninspiring station-to-station boring baseball during the Robin Ventura era. I believe Rick Renteria will do a better job with his more talented roster of hitters. I believe he will mix a proper blend of traditional baseball strategy along with incorporating many of today’s analytic elements. A good start in that endeavor was moving Robert to the leadoff spot when Anderson went on the IL. I hope and expect Robert will remain atop the White Sox order for the foreseeable future and that Madrigal might join him there sooner rather than later.
ChiSox_Fan
Nick was just barely rounding 2B when Avi came up throwing!
No reason to try to get to 3B with 0 outs.
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@leftyleftylefty
Kind of like what happened with Mike Soroka coming off the mound the other day?
Let me get this straight–a player getting a freak injury equates to a low baseball IQ. Gotcha.
Thank you for displaying your high baseball IQ, Skippy.