The Brewers are receiving a lot of interest on Josh Hader and Corbin Burnes, MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports (all links to Twitter), though there isn’t any sign that Milwaukee would consider moving either reliever for anything less than a major offer, particularly for Hader. Brett Anderson or David Phelps are perhaps more realistic options to be dealt if the Brewers opt to move an arm. The Yankees and Twins are two of the clubs who have been in touch with the Brew Crew about Hader, but there hasn’t been much indication that talks led anywhere.
Let’s dive into some news and trade buzz from around both the NL and AL Central divisions…
- The Tigers are drawing interest in catcher Austin Romine and left-hander Daniel Norris, The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reports in both a tweet and a longer notes column. The Rays are one team linked to Norris, who has impressed by posting a 2.40 ERA, 7.2 K/9, and 4.00 K/BB rate over 15 innings. The former second-round draft pick has been plagued by injuries throughout his career and missed part of Summer Camp recovering from a positive COVID-19 test, though he has performed well as a multi-inning reliever for the Tigers this year. Romine has also enjoyed a strong season with a .291/.309/.418 slash line over 81 PA, though his trade chip status could have a late wrinkle — the Tigers scratched him from today’s lineup due to right knee soreness.
- Tyler Chatwood left today’s outing due to right elbow discomfort, according to the Cubs. The righty bounced a pitch to the plate in the third inning, with manager David Ross telling ESPN.com’s Jesse Rogers and other reporters that Chatwood initially felt a problem while throwing a breaking ball on the previous pitch. Chatwood was making his second start back from the injured list after missing much of August with a back strain. Elbow problems aren’t good news for any pitcher, though it is particularly concerning in Chatwood’s case since he already has a Tommy John surgery on his record.
- The injury bug also struck on the south side of Chicago, as the White Sox placed left-hander Gio Gonzalez on the 10-day injured list (retroactive to August 27) with a right groin strain. Gonzalez’s first year with the Sox hasn’t been a smooth one, as he has a 5.11 ERA over 24 2/3 innings and a 1.5 HR/9 that is almost twice his 0.8 career average. His most recent outing was, intriguingly, 3 2/3 inning of shutout relief against the Cubs, which could hint at Gonzalez’s role for the White Sox when he returns from the IL.
I read some Milwaukee fanboy reporter said the Jays should trade Pearson for Hader .
Based on the return for relievers thus far, it’d take more than Pearson to get Hader. He would definitely be the prize of the package, but he wouldn’t get Hader straight up.
Hader is like Aroldis Chapman when the Cubs traded Gleyber for him EXCEPT Hader is under control for more years in the future. It’d take a package of at least 3-4 prospects led by a top guy like Pearson.
Pearson is a 60FV Starting picture.
Gleyber was no where near a top 10 overall prospect.
No way in the world a team would trade a 60FV -Top 10 overall pitching prospect + 2-3 other prospects for any reliever.
Plus the writer obviously failed to look at our Bull Pen, he looked at Giles being hurt and said the Jays “NEED” to make that trade.
“Gleyber was no where near a top 10 overall prospect.”
You’re just spouting nonsense. MLB had him 3 and 5 in 17 and 18, baseball America 5 and 6 in 17 and 18, and baseball prospectus 3 in 18. Torres was higher rated than Pearson is now.
Value in the MLB is all about young cheap talent and controllable players, both of which Hader is while being a top 5 closer. He doesn’t come with the fanfare as Chapman or overall body of work, but the value is right about the same. Pearson wouldn’t be enough, especially when you factor in his injury history.
Pearson and a current MLB reliever like Cole or Bass would be enough for Hader. However, the Blue Jays would be nuts to do that. Upon Pearson’s return this year he’s going to the bullpen, and Giles too. The Jays do not need more bullpen help in 2020 and can wait on a Hader deal.
Briffle your rankings above are accurate. However Gleybar was traded to the Yankees in 2016 and at that point he was down in the 20s or 30s or even lower. A very solid prospect but not top 10.
Glayber Torres was traded straight up for Chapman though. The other 3 were throw ins. Adam Warren was used only a handfil of times for the cubs. Castro was the same to the Yankees it was castro for cash. Brennan Ryan was immediately released.
And the castro deal was essentially castro for Ben Zobrist. Since they used that money to sign him.
Don’t be ridiculous. Pearson is an overpay for Hader!
With only a prospect track record, no he’s not
Maybe in a year or two when he’s established himself as the ace he’s shown glimpses of. But straight up it’s been what 6 starts? That’s 20% of a real season. He’s not an established FOR, so he’s gonna be a piece in the deal. A huge piece, but at least 2 other guys will go with him, I’d bet money on it. They may not be major pieces. But Mil is not just gonna put all their eggs of cashing in their best asset for one arm that can blow out at any time. Hader is too valuable, and someone will pay more
Think Edwin Diaz deal, but remember they added Cano to lessen the return. It will be massive in talent
Burnes is no longer a reliever and in fact looks like a potential high upside starter. Hader is great but don’t underestimate Burnes based off last year. I feel like he is even less likely to move than Hader is
I feel like the Yankees have an interest in Austin Romine and Daniel Norris or Matthew Boyd. If the Tigers take back Miguel Andujar, Luis Gil or Michael King. I definitely see a match as far as a trade between the two teams.
I’ve heard a few Yankees fans willing to let the front office accept a BOGO from Applebee’s for Andujar.
The yankees should trade for Lance Lynn. Sanchez, Stanton, Cole, and half a billion dollars should do the trick.
From a Tigers point of view, I would trade Norris and Romine for Gil plus other players/prospects. Andujar certainly is interesting, but he has been too bad to be the centerpiece of such a deal.
Gruß,
BSHH
You would trade a SP who wasn’t good enough to crack the Tigers rotation and a catcher the Yankees would use as a backup for a fringe top-100 prospect ‘plus other players/prospects’? You should make sure to get on the phone to the GMs quickly!
1.
Norris has been a solid starter over the last years, albeit with durability questions. He has been a strong multi-inning reliever this year; the Tigers obviously think he can be utilized more effectively this way. Anyway, his performance is better than any starter except perhaps Turnbull. Norris is under very affordable control for 2021.
2.
At least according to MLB Pipeline, Luis Gil is not a 100ish prospect. His ongoing control issues and the lack of a reliable third pitch decrease his value.
Gruß,
BSHH
Andujar does not fit on the Tigers. Paredes, Candelario, Torkelson and Workman are all 3B/1B depth and there is this guy, Cabrera, at DH. I realize there will be interest in Romine, but would prefer to see him kept while the young pitchers are developing.
Daniel Norris to the Reds along with Archie Bradley?
What is wrong with Hader with all those walks?
Hader back to the Stros’? It would apparently make Pressly good again because he just can’t close games. Only thing is the lack of prospects, and I doubt the Astros want a Hader for Whitley 1 v 1, despite how dominate Hader is.
If the Brewers asked for Whitley straight up for Hader, the Astros would have accepted yesterday. It’ll take a HUGE package to get Hader. Think the Ken Giles trade, but bigger.
LOL at thinking the Astros are the ones hanging up the phone there
The brewers likely started the Dodgers with Lux+ May. That’s the #2 prospect in all of baseball on multiple lists, and a top 25 prospect in the entire game who’s starting in the majors with a fastball at 99 that has 19 inches of movement. On the fastball.
That’s what they’re gonna ask for. And I’d bet they also had Ruiz in there, 22 year old catcher who’s already been in the majors this year. So yeah. 1-1 isn’t happening
Well they could ask but that’s as far as the conversation would go. The folks at baseballtradevalues.com – pretty smart guys – have May’s value equal to Hader’s and Lux’s value greater. If you included Ruiz, the deal would be sending 3X the value to the Brewers. Thank you no.
I think the Brewers would be smart to trade Harder as his value can’t get any higher, but hang on to Burnes, as his best is yet to come.
Absolutely agree a trade i want to see is Smith, and Davis for Anderson and Phelps. Then maybe Arcia to Toronto gives the BREWERS an infield of Smith at first Huira at second Urias at short and Davis at third. Heck I hear that the Brewers are looking at Marte for center i wonder if Ashby could get him. I think you consider Hader trade for a big package. I believe that Williams and Bickford are ready with Knebel to take the late innings.
lol wut? Knebel has an ERA approaching 10 this season and Bickford has never pitched above high A ball. They’re gonna trust the late innings to PHIL BICKFORD?
Also, no way Ashby fetches you Marte. Just yikes dude
Hader to the mets for Dominic Smith 1 for 1.
5 yrs of an emerging everyday player is worth more then 3 yrs of any reliever even Hader
Mets bullpen sucks
MarkoRock68 no
You might believe that. If so, I’m sure there are about 30 GMs that wish you were running the team they wanted to trade with.
Go to bed Marko, clearly you’re sleep deprived
So many experts on this thread, so little time for Monday morning GM’s to do their thing.
Chatwood hurt. Wasn’t his contract 3 years, 36 million? Worst contract ever best to that of Brandon Morrow. I can’t believe after wasting all that money on him the Cubs turn around and give him a minor league deal to steal more money. BTW what happened to morrow anyway.
Morrow was released from his minor league deal, I believe it was during spring training when he hurt himself again.
Chatwood doesn’t even scratch the surface of “worst contracts” in my opinion. Granted, he was awful his first year but pitched effectively last year and was pitching well this season as well.
It is just frustrating with Chatwood. His stuff is filthy. Oh well. Appreciate you letting me know about Morrow
Larnach for Hader seems fair.
That’s very light. Why would the Brewers bother doing that?
The yankees are still desperately trying to acquire “unhittable” bullpen pieces so they can burn through them all and continue to flame out in the playoffs. Meanwhile, teams win championships without bullpens stacked with “unhittable” bullpen pieces. They merely score more runs than the other team. And they don’t try to win every stinking game all year long. But the yankee strategy is the work of a brilliant front office. Um, ok.
yup- lets see how great cash is working for KC for Pittsburgh….
The Yankee infield after 2021 will be Arenado at 3b (he has an opt-out), Lindor at SS (trade plus sign), LeMahieu at 2B, and Voit/Ford/Sanchez at 1B. Andujar, Frazier, and Torres will be dealt.
Why on earth would the Yankees deal Torres? Sure he is having a down year so far but the guy does nothing but hit and is still dirt cheap. Worst case you can have Torres play a super utility role.
As far as being able to land Lindor and Arenado… I don’t see that becoming a reality although I do know Cashman loves Arenado. The Yankees, IMO, are going to have to invest fairly heavily in the pitching market.
I think Lindor ends up staying with the Indians. Cleveland has purged quite a bit of money the past couple years and I think, like the Brewers and Braun, it’s in anticipation of offering Lindor a massive extension.
White Sox should pursue deal for both Phelps and Anderson. It will fill holes, but won’t cost any top prospects, since Anderson is a rental and Phelps has one more year of control.
Chatwood is done for the year…Sounds like Tommy John Surgery for a 2nd time. We need to get a starter today