7:24pm: Betts’ contract includes a massive $65MM signing bonus, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (via Twitter). The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal adds that the contract contains $115MM in deferrals, and the salaries are backloaded such that Betts will be paid $17.5MM in 2021 and 2022. There are no opt-outs in the deal, which does not come with a no-trade clause, per Rosenthal.
4:01pm: Mookie Betts is a Dodger for the long haul. The team announced this afternoon that Betts has signed a 12-year extension through the 2032 season. It’ll reportedly guarantee him a whopping $365MM in new money on top of this year’s $27MM salary (which has been prorated to $10MM due to the shortened 2020 season). Betts is represented by the VC Sports Group.
The contract represents the largest amount of new money ever promised to a Major League player on an extension or free-agent signing, topping Mike Trout’s previous highwater mark of $360MM (over a shorter 10-year term). Trout was already signed at two years and $66.5MM, so his total of 12 years and $426.5MM tops Betts’ 13-year, $392MM figure, but the $365MM new-money benchmark is a notable record nevertheless.
The Betts extension, somewhat remarkably, marks the first time that the Dodgers have guaranteed in excess of $100MM to a player under president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman. Though the team is known for its enormous — at times seemingly limitless — spending capacity, the Friedman regime has worked diligently to shed some prior undesirable commitments and creatively limbo underneath the luxury-tax bar. Doing so paved the way for the Dodgers to issue a historic contract to a premium talent.
After missing out on a free-agent pursuit of Gerrit Cole this winter, the team shifted its focus to acquiring Betts, who came to L.A. alongside David Price in a blockbuster trade that sent Alex Verdugo, Jeter Downs and Connor Wong to Boston. There was plenty of talk about the team’s hope for extending Betts, but he’d been outspoken about his desire to test the open market. Paired with the economic uncertainty stemming from this year’s unprecedented revenue losses, there was real reason to wonder whether a deal would get done.
Perhaps that economic turmoil made Betts more amenable to taking a deal now rather than testing the market, or perhaps he was simply willing all along to sign if a team exceeded Trout’s new-money guarantee. His exact thinking likely won’t ever be fully known, but the end result is that Betts now appears poised to spend the remainder of an already excellent career in Dodger blue.
Still just 27 years of age, Betts has produced at star-caliber levels since a 52-game MLB debut back in 2014. A career .301/.379/.519 hitter, Betts is already a four-time All-Star, a three-time Silver Slugger winner, a former American League MVP and batting champion, and a four-time Gold Glove winner. He’s clubbed 139 home runs and swiped 126 bases in 794 Major League games, showing off an impressive blend of power and speed, and his 13.5 percent walk rate over the past two seasons is nearly the same as his paltry 14.5 percent strikeout rate. Add in that Betts is regarded as an otherworldly defender — he’s third among all players in Defensive Runs Saved since 2015, regardless of position — and it’s easy to see why Betts is regarded among the game’s elite players.
The Dodgers already boasted at least one of those elite talents: reigning NL MVP Cody Bellinger. Betts and Bellinger will pair to form what could be baseball’s best one-two punch for at least the next four seasons, as Bellinger is controlled through at least the 2023 season. Out-of-nowhere slugger Max Muncy is also inked through the ’23 campaign on a highly reasonable three-year, $26MM pact, so that trio should continue thriving in the heart of the order for the foreseeable future. The hope is that rising young talents like infielder Gavin Lux and catcher Will Smith will add to that long-term core. Looking shorter-term, the Dodgers are stacked with above-average contributors, including Corey Seager (controlled through 2021), Justin Turner (through 2020), Chris Taylor (through 2021) and Enrique Hernandez (through 2020).
From a payroll and luxury-tax standpoint, the Dodgers can afford to both sign Betts and still pursue a megadeal with Bellinger, should they see fit. Betts’ contract comes with a $30.4MM annual luxury hit (or $30.1MM, if they roll it into the current deal), which is sizable but still only represents about a seventh of next year’s $210MM luxury cap. (That number could well rise in 2021 CBA negotiations, too.) Los Angeles already has more than $152MM in luxury commitments on the 2021 books, including this new deal for Betts, but that number plummets to $73MM in 2022. Betts is the only Dodger on a guaranteed deal for the 2023 season (although Bellinger, Walker Buehler and Julio Urias will all be arbitration-eligible).
With today’s agreement, Betts, Bellinger and Buehler look like the long-term faces of the Dodgers franchise, though the club has boundless young talent, a knack for high-profile trades and as previously noted, plenty of money to spend even with Betts pulling in more than $30MM on an annual basis. The Dodgers have won seven straight NL West titles, and the Betts deal is a strong step toward continuing that trend. That, of course, won’t be enough to satisfy Betts, though. As the star put it during today’s introductory press conference: “I’m here to win some rings.”
WEEI’s Lou Merloni reported earlier today that Betts was closing in on an extension worth more than $300MM. ESPN’s Jeff Passan reported the agreement and the terms just prior to the team’s announcement (Twitter thread).
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Dodgers Bet Bigly on Betts
Francys01
I am not a fan of those long term contracts, but good for him.
ChapmansVacuum
Yeah dude is getting paid at age 39 in ’32. Good for the next 4-5 years at least though.
oldleftylong
Yep, look over to Cabrera @ 36 years. A shell of the HOF to be. Mookie after 35 gets 4-5 years of payday for, … likely, ….
thatt12
Isn’t Bobby Bonilla still getting paid?
dugmet
Pennies
mfm420
for another 15 years or so.
pasha2k
If that.
pasha2k
He suffered when JD wasn’t in lineup. He’s smart signing in case he is lousy outta the gate. He gets loads of picky injuries n his hitting suffers. I’m sure he’ll be happy, n I hope he lives up to contract, cuz if he didn’t in Boston he’d hear bout it, not so in LA.
dperez1
Yeah he’s not a lying dog-faced pony soldier that’s for sure.
looiebelongsinthehall
In fairness, the pandemic changed the equation. That said, I’m content as a Sox fan with the return as the current rules forced them to make decisions. There was simply no way they were going to continue paying the heaviest tax and loss of draft picks. Now they can try to lock up Devers AND try to get pitching if such becomes available. Had they even got under the taxes this year but then signed Mookie, I believe they would have become hamstrung again. If they are not in contention in August, JDM is gone. Too bad because he’s the one I now would try to extend. I still don’t see him getting a huge deal even with the NL having a DH this year but give him three more years. He leads in the cage by example. My issue with the DH next year is MLB needs to save it for negotiations with the MLBPA after 21.
SFBay314
If they cannot win a 60 game season, they team won’t win anything. Giants fan here, but these guys couldn’t be more stacked. Glad we got Farhan 🙂
vtadave
It’s not about winning the season. It’s about performing in the playoffs. They’ll easily make the playoffs of course, but the playoffs can be a crap shoot if one team gets hot and another does not.
chris08
The Dodgers should worry about their playoff prospects because their ace can never seem to get it together in the big moments. If I was a betting man, I’d take my chances with Gerrit Cole or even Masahiro Tanaka in the playoffs over Kershaw.
juanpursuit
Kershaw isn’t their ace
chris08
Have it your way. I like the odds of Cole over Buehler and Tanaka over Kershaw. The Yankees have generally had their way with Price over the years, but it only helps that he is also sitting out.
looiebelongsinthehall
To celebrate a “championship” in 2020 is stupid. This year is really about getting through October to get the broadcasting revenue that “playoffs” bring.
dperez1
Yeah because a 60 game season makes a difference. How many playoff teams now? A mediocre team can win it all if they get hot at the right time. Just ask the 2016 Giants team.
Senioreditor
This season just 5 per league.
dperez1
Try 16 playoff teams. A complete joke.
whynot 2
Same goes for the nationals last year
lowtalker1
They won’t. The year of brown jerseys
pepenas34
I know 7 years in a row is not much., but you should know that the problem has not been in the reg. season.
holecamels35
Honestly question, does anyone even care who wins this season? It’s just a jumbled mess, it will be fun but means very little.
Ezpkns34
If my team wins, then yes it will count, otherwise it totally doesn’t count
whynot 2
It’ll be fun to watch some games, that’s what counts
looiebelongsinthehall
Please no canned fan noise. It was terrible at Citi Field against the Yankees because the timing was off.
whynot 2
It the first time they used it, who knows maybe as time goes by they’ll get better at it. Even some of the players brought up the lack of noise as possible distraction. They are used to hearing noise in pressure situations. After so many years of being exposed to that type of environment they likely conditioned to focusing more the louder the atmosphere gets. Even the fish’s stadium can get a little loud in those types of late inning situations.
Al Hirschen
Sorry New York Mets
phenomenalajs
When was that going to happen? I couldn’t see it especially with the team up for sale. They’ll concentrate on their own talent. They’re fortunate that Alonso and McNeil are pre-arb.
SalaryCapMyth
Hirschen is referring some fan ideas and not from the NYM FO or analysts. Some MLBTR posters were spittballing the idea that when/if Cohen buys the Mets, he would approve acquiring Betts.
johnnydubz
That was a pipe dream and Mookie just stole so much loot. We know he’s washed up like every other Red Sox let go before him.
JerryBird
Betts got more than Trout? Neither is worth that kind of money, no sports player is, just my opinion. With that said, which one would you want of the two? Mike Trout is who I would choose, hands down!
gbs42
More money over more years. Trout’s AAV is higher.
chris redsox69
Trout. I agree. Betts is way to little and will not withstand the long run.
vtadave
Joe Morgan had a .400 OBP and 24 steals at 38. Betts should be ok.
Senioreditor
and played MANY seasons on bad turf.
BigDJohn
Ken Griffey Jr. posted a 102 OPS+ at the age of 38, posted a 97 OPS+ at age 39, and a 30 OPS+ at the age of 40 with 0 steal those last 3 years. Betts should be ok.
VegasSDfan
Betts is not in the Joe Morgan conversation yet
whynot 2
Morgan did that in the 70’s, he wouldn’t be able to compete at that age in the modern game.
fox471 Dave
Actually, the other way around, Vegas. Morgan is not in the Betts conversation yet.
Afk711
In a sport with no salary cap and record revenue (10 billion last year) they are absolutely worth it. Worth is relative to the industry. Dont think about baseball as a 9-5 desk job.
whynot 2
His production is what says he is not with it.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Trout got over 60mil more. It was 425mil over the same years. Something like thst
Dodger Dog
Yes, only sports team owners should be mega rich!
AngelDiceClay
They’re worth if a team is willing to pay it
aneternalenigma
No. Trout got $426.5 million.
ThisIsTheYear
I’m usually in agreement with your perspective that no player is worth that much unless they average 60 HRs a year and are hitting .395 every season, I gotta say that Mike Trout is as close as it gets… Actually I think he’s underpaid for the sheer amount of exposure he helps give to the Angels… but yeah… I wish he didn’t waste his career in a team that can’t build a team around him due to their financial commitment towards him.
terry g
They closed the deal.
joseselmer
365MM before playing a regular season game
James Midway
Guess they won’t be extending Bellinger
thebaseballfanatic
I’m can’t imagine Bellinger in anything but a Dodgers uni.
The Blue Jays’ or Cardinals’ alternate baby blues are the only things that come close.
ThisIsTheYear
What about the Royals?
Ashtem
They have a bunch of contracts coming off the books on 2022 or before
gbs42
The Dodgers can afford both of them, easily.
math
The Dodgers’ 3 biggest non-Betts contracts all come off the books before Bellinger hits FA. A more accurate guess would be that they don’t extend Kershaw or Jansen.
Wyoming Bison Expansion Team
Seager may be the odd man out. He’s a free agent in 2022.
Dodgers still have Price, Muncy, Pollack, plus arb raises and any contracts they add come 2022. He’ll be 28 and with contracts for Buehler, Bellinger, and free agents to replace guys they lose next couple years after 2022 some team could offer Seager more money.
JustCheckingIn
Except they are tremendously well prepared to sign Bellinger too
mrshyguy99
4 of their biigger deals are off the books by 2022. since turner like 35 i dont think he be back if so on a smaller shorter deal, jensen a hit or miss if he back, doubt price will be back and who knows if kershaw will be back or even at that price he is now. so they will have money . to think they wont is crazy. dodgers dont spent big money. first big deal since kershaw
brucenewton
They could. Have to be willing to not be luxury tax compliant. If a long overdue salary cap comes in well…they be fubared.
The Human Rain Delay
Plenty of room for Belli and Buehler long term-
The bigger question marks is how much of a hometown discount will Turner and Shaw give us. It could provide some awkwardness (as early as next year with Turner) but both players will ultimately see what LAD offers in staying at that point-
Seager imo will get more money elsewhere
Joc Jansen Kiki- Nice service
Kelley- Just give us 2 good playoff series please
I dont think you will see many other free agent signings for the next 3-4 years at all. This is going to be an internal group from here on out and I love that
Welcome to the Family MB
chris redsox69
Well as we all know he wanted to test the free agency. So this tells me his word is NO f/n good as a person. I wanted to see him on the open market and see what he was worth. By signing a extension with the team says all. You can’t trust what he says
gbs42
It seems to say he didn’t want to be in Boston any longer than required.
chris08
It tells me pre-covid Mookie did want to test the market but post-covid Mookie saw the writing on the wall that $365M is more than any other team will offer him on the open market, so best take this deal now before the Dodgers realize they can have him for less.
redsoxu571
Yes, because we all know Boston has so much trouble attracting and keeping players, he says sarcastically.
Odds are that Betts fully intended to test the market, and then wisely pivoted in the face of the pandemic, which is not guaranteed to be under control next year. If MLB’s revenues are affected for multiple seasons, Betts could see the market get worse (as happened after the early 2000s spending spree) for some time and have to go short-term while waiting for a market rebound. He probably feels that this blows away whatever else would be out there, so sign on the dotted line and secure one’s lifetime earnings just like that!
4WSsince04
Gbs42 – Agreed!! That is what I kept saying when comments were “just pay him”. He was never ever going to stay. Verdugo, Downs, Wong and $16 million savings was worth one year of Betts and Price!! He wanted out of Boston and the Red Sox got a good return.
kodion
He told the Red Sox that. He kept his word.
Unless …where did you hear he said the same to the Dodgers?
echozulu88
That or maybe a global pandemic and sport shutdown risk on top of a massive contract offer might have changed his mind.
Melchez
Someone waves $365 mil at you… you have to rethink that idea. How much more could he have squeezed out of being a free agent? He and his kids are set for life.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
His children were set for life even before this $365M….
Senioreditor
Great grand kids are set now.
gbs42
Every one of his descendants should be set forever unless they’re incredibly foolish.
Daw(e)some
This
JustCheckingIn
Didn’t Boston offer 60M less and 2 years less as well?
Let’s not pretend the offers were identical and Mookie just changed his mind. LA offered more money and more years and beat trout. That’s the real thing that Boston didn’t approach, that would have gotten him thinking imo
AtlSoxFan
Boston offered the same AAV with 2 less years. Without giving boston a chance to offer more years, mookie added an extra roughly 20% aav and two extra years, said it was non negotiable and take it or leave it.
Had mookie not countered with an ultimatum, it’s not unlikely that a similar pact could’ve come together.
What we know is mookie gave the dodgers nearly a 60m discount off what he demanded as non negotiable from the red sox. Case closed.
Good luck, we just have to wait and see if this pushed la over the top… or not.
JustCheckingIn
You’re missing a large part of it, quite conveniently. Boston tried for 3 straight off-seasons to sign him, and each time they came in at or over a 100M gap btwn their offer and Betts counter
There’s no report that says Mookie shut negotiations down. You’re making stuff up. There’s even reports Boston made additional offers. More importantly, Boston started to look into trading him and shifted to Xavier. Did they ever offer 360M? By all accounts, no
He wanted to top Trouts deal of 12/420… it’s the same thing he did here. He topped the new money of trout. Simply put, Boston wanted a discount and Mookie didn’t take it. They shifted to Xavier and traded Mookie. Stop making accusations up to make Mookie sound bad, it’s a bad look. This quote below is EXACTLY what he signed for, from before the Dodger trade even happened
google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/…
The 12-year, $420 offer Betts reportedly seeks is in line with recent major league megadeals: Slightly south of Mike Trout’s 12-year, $430 million behemoth but north of Bryce Harper’s 13-year, $330 million deal.
Boston reportedly was unwilling to shell out that kind of cash for Betts — and may lose the former American League MVP because of it.
TeddyBallgameYazJimEd
The difference between the AAV the RS offered and what he signed for was $153,846, per year, over the first 10 years of the contract. And that was only their initial offer… don’t forget he made a take it or leave it demand of $420, after the 2019 season or he would test the FA market.
He did in fact refuse to negotiate, settled on a $27M 2020 salary…And as such forced the RS to trade him. And actually wound up leaving $ on the table.
brucenewton
LA knew they had to. Severe fan backlash if he walks, after trading some nice pieces to Boston to get him. First 3-4 years should be ok.
JustCheckingIn
He’s 28. The first 6-8 years are likely to be above average seasons at a minimum, baring health issue
From all accounts he keeps himself in tremendous shape. There’s no reason to think he’s going to magically go from a top 5 guy to sucking in 3 years..
4WSsince04
Injuries happen ! I could list 20 players who came no where close to finishing their contract.
TeddyBallgameYazJimEd
That is true and has always been the case.
He turned down an initial offer of $300M/10 years. His demand of a take it or leave it $420M was laughably framed as a counter offer.
He now winds up with $392M/13 for an average of $30,153,846 per year.
So he left the RS over $153,846 per year… for the same comparable first 10 years of his contract.
And that was only because he refused to negotiate with them because he was sure he would get $40M per year somewhere else.
So actually he left money on the table because RS were already at about the same AAV he signed for, and that was before they even negotiated.
Enjoy playing in LA Mookie… a place they show up in the 3rd inning and leave after the 7th.
Where In Out Burger is more important than any sport.
Javia
This will be Mookie Betts only big contract. Whether this was going to be a 10 year or 13 year contract, he will not be getting another huge payday after this one. So this contract likely will be all the money he is going to make for the rest of his life. That makes those extra 3 years and $92 million in the Dodgers offer HUGE! Sure, the AAV is just a little more than he would have gotten from the Sox, but that extra $92 million total guaranteed is big. Unless you or he were betting that he would have still gotten over $92 million as a free agent at age 38?
AtlSoxFan
Ted, it only looks worse when you figure the tax differences between living/working in CA vs MA are greater than the dollar amount.
In the time period you quote, Mookie would’ve taken home/kept more money under the boston deal, PLUS there wasn’t talk of deferrals either.
So, present day value of each deal the LA one would’ve been clearly inferior if viewed in a vacuum.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Was there talk of a $65 mil signing bonus?
You kinda skipped over *that*.
Which is a really Big Deal.
Also: players pay really complicated taxes, man. They pay them to every state they play in. It’s not a one-to-one equation.
Fyi.
JustCheckingIn
You can say what you want about take it or leave it but from that article, Boston kept trying. So I don’t buy it
That article said he wanted to land btwn harpers 13/330 and trouts 12/420… trout 420 is really 10/360 in new money.. or would have included his 2020 salary, as it was before they settled.
He beat trouts number. Boston from all accounts never offered that last 60M. Say all you want about AAV for a certain number of years. Boston was 60M short of what they needed to offer.
The real truth is Boston tried for 3 years to under pay him. From what we know, LAD offered him exactly what was reported he wanted 5 months ago, and he signed. Boston Didn’t! It’s Boston’s fault dude for trying to nickel and dime him for years
stansfield123
Your math is silly. Your logic is silly. Your post is silly. Oh, and your team is silly.
JustCheckingIn
That’s your big come back? The dodgers are…. silly?
Yeah after 7 division titles in a row, a 106 win season… they added the best available player in the game for no one who will be as good as Mookie, then extended said player. Silly! Burn!!
What about my math is wrong? I said very clearly, if I’m incorrect, correct me. But adding in his 2020 salary+ new contract, then looking at what Boston offered pre-2020 when he was with them….. why is that faulty, exactly?
Or should I say, silly?
Melchez
So, did the Dodgers win this years “World Series on Paper” award? Yankee fans were chanting “28! 28! 28!” I guess because they were going for 28 years in a row as the “World Series on Paper” winner.
fox471 Dave
Lot of angry Red Sox fans here.
fox471 Dave
Chris red sox 69 is a bit of an idiot, is he not?
RedSox67
Any reply from a post starting with fox says all about what you are. Get a life
You stupid moron. Don’t like what I say say so. Start calling me name. Well you open the door there. Idiot indeed you are
davidk1979
Damn was hoping the Mets new owners would sign him
DocBB
That’s way below what I thought he would get. $30M a year is still way less than Trout makes $37M. I thought Betts would get $35M a year. Not a good sign for free agents next year.
DarkSide830
cant believe that just happened in the span of a few hours
thebaseballfanatic
Evidently Betts enjoys being on a perennial contender… something Boston isn’t going to be for a while.
chris redsox69
Every team with good money to spend will go on a roller coaster ride Who knows when one is going up or down. Dodgers right now have awesome money to spend ,and who knows mookie could be just the piece of chemistry to put them on top. But to say Boston isn’t going anywhere’s for awhile will be like me saying the Will tank like all the other seasons. Good team but no heart.
olmtiant
Maybe, but you have seen 4 Championships from Boston in your short baseball life (ok 3) as many or more than all teams…. One thing to contend, another to win it all!!!!
JustCheckingIn
Helps to cheat too
-both dodger World Series opponents in last 3 years
chris redsox69
One I know of. The second was won as we all know and as stated by MLB. So get along in ur little life and thinking
Stevil
Cheating, dirty baseball…
None of it is good for the game. But LA coming short, regardless of how/why, doesn’t change the fact that they’re a power-house and set for a long time.
TeddyBallgameYazJimEd
Yup those 2013 and 2018 championships were soooo long ago a bad season or 2 is going to be devastating..
chris08
This strikes as a desperation move by the Dodgers. Anxious that they traded away a lot of talent for what will now be a half season of Betts and an opted-out Price, they now double down on the sunk cost with an unwieldy long term extension to ensure he stays a Dodger. No doubt that Mookie is a generational player, but even with his talents it is hard to imagine him getting a similar or better deal from a different team on the open market this Fall amid diminishing revenues. Even more so when considering which suitors could even afford him: Red Sox (traded him away for cap space), Yankees (have three OFs for mid-to-long term plus Frazier), Phillies (tied down by Harper), Angels (tied down by Trout and Rendon contracts), Nats (pretty maxed on payroll already). Betts might be only 26, which makes him different than 2007 A-Rod, but this situation reminds of 2007 A-Rod in that the Yankees convinced themselves of the existence of suitors that didn’t exist.
redsoxu571
Desperation? LA surely hoped to hang on to Betts for the long haul when it made the trade that it did.
By the way, Boston did not “trade him away for cap space”, a completely silly statement. It traded him away because it determined that he was probably gone in a year, and so rather than get one year and nothing more from him it could use him to move money AND get some good young talent. A proven second-year player and a top 100 prospect plus a lot of freed money is a good way to leverage superstar talent that you feel (or know) is leaving soon.
chris08
Yes, completely agree they obtained a great haul, especially considering they jettisoned half of Price’s albatross contract too.. I would have happily made that trade as the Sox GM. But make no mistake: Chaim Bloom probably wouldn’t have sought out Mookie this Fall, for reasons of resetting Boston’s growing penalties from the luxury tax. The overall point of my comment, which you have ignored in your attempt to focus on the exact reason the Sox traded him, was that all the teams that could afford a player like Betts in an average year probably aren’t in need of a RFer at the current juncture, rendering the decision to throw Mookie $365M before this season even starts quite a risk.
Orel Saxhiser
How is striving to get better an act of desperation? All fans should want their team to be that desperate. I’m as big a Verdugo fan as there is, but the Dodgers didn’t trade anyone away who can’t be replaced. Betts is a massive upgrade on Alex, they are deep in catching and middle infield prospects, and also reeled in Graterol and Price. Well-run organization from top to bottom.
chris08
Did you read the first line of my comment and then immediately come to attack me without reading the nuance? They already had Betts locked up for this year, which is important because the Dodgers are WS contenders now. It’s a desperation move because all of the big money teams likely wouldn’t have pursued Betts this offseason, and I expect a lot of free agents to be disappointed by their offers this winter. So why lock him up now when there is not likely to be a bidding war for him? There is a reason Betts chose to abandon his long-held position that he would not sign an extension.
And it will surely feel like this contract was an act of desperation when they’re overpaying him on the back end of this deal.
JustCheckingIn
You’re foolish to think Betts wasn’t going to get paid. His market wasn’t going to suffer. It’s the middle and lower end free agents who’ll see the pinch. To say undoubtedly NYY, NYm, LAA, Hou, Bos or any other number of teams couldn’t have jumped in.. foolish. They aren’t hurting for money as much as they want you to think.
gbs42
Most teams overpay on the back end of long-term deals. But they underpay at the front end, so it generally evens out.
BlueSkies_LA
No matter how you choose to restate it, signing one of the best players in all of baseball can never be rightly called desperation, it’s called signing one of the best players in all of baseball.
FunkYaDodgers
Right? I don’t see a negative to this besides the 13 years. If he delivers though for Los Angeles and the Dodgers, then those last years don’t really matter. Hopefully he can stay healthy through the prime years. Who knows what will happen in 13 years. It’s a Ridiculous amount of money for an athlete but hey I’m not the one signing the paychecks.
TrueBlue44
A Betts in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Chief Two Hands
The bottom line is that the Dodgers can afford a contract like this without being hamstrung financially in the later years, regardless of any physical decline on Betts’ part.
chris08
Not just an issue of money, though it is important (looking at Boston, which is trying to get under the cap, Houston which couldn’t afford to retain their ace, and LAA which also got outbid on Cole when they are very desperate for pitching, and Mets, which can’t afford anything these days).. For example, at which position would Mookie play for NYY? They have a franchise player already in RF, Hicks with 6 years left, and Stanton’s albatross contract.
Look back at 2018-19. Harper was also a youthful free agent sensation, and his market turned out to only be the Phillies.
fox471 Dave
Please see my post above where I identify Chris Red Sox as an idiot. You are welcome.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
So if my math is right, in a regular 162 game season, assuming 4 ABs/game, he’ll make more in one at-bat (about $47k) than most people make in an entire 365-day year.
Afk711
Over 99.9 percent of people can’t have as good of an AB as Mookie Betts
Orel Saxhiser
Shut up and get me my fries.
kodion
After you’re done your fries, don’t forget to sweep under the tables
Lovinmlb
Good for mookie. I wouldn’t pay him that much. Don’t see him being a top 5 player for much longer. 33 to 40 years might be ruff.
mlbnyyfan
Dodgers had no choice but to pay him big bucks. They weren’t going to have him play just 60 games and walk away for nothing.
chris08
I can sympathize with the agony that they likely experienced along the lines with your point, but this is the definition of the sunk cost fallacy.
JustCheckingIn
For the 1000th time. La never got him for the reg season. They got him for October. The change in season length doesn’t mean his most valuable time-playoffs- was diminished .
Melchez
He’s only 27 years old… play RF. He won’t be stealing 30 bases again. He will settle in, play solid defense in right. Hit his 30 homers. Hit .300 with an OBP around .375. He is a solid right handed bat in that heavy left handed lineup.
Lovinmlb
We will see. I think he will be McCutchen 2.0 maybe not fall off as quick or soon. I don’t think he is a top 5 player now. By age 30 I will be surprised if he is top 10 or even 15. Guy had 1 300 million worth season. To me he isn’t quite a 300 Million guy. Especially with the situation in United States. No fans is a huge revenue killer. Hope I am wrong. Just most these contracts don’t work out for the team. Then with a smaller guy and no roids the odds get worse.
gbs42
Those numbers are much better than “solid.”
Appalachian_Outlaw
I get what you’re saying, but I think you cross that bridge when you get there. They have a shot to win a WS or two now. You have to go all-in on that. By the time Betts starts to decline, they’ll likely be rebuilding anyway. LA can easily eat a few years of bad contract, if it comes to that.
Lovinmlb
I think it will be more than a few years that are weak. I would of seen what he did this year, see what covid looks like in Dec Jan. If some other team was willing to beat $365 then smile and enjoy the comp pick. Can always spend that $ some where else. Don’t see a need to sign him now. Last season didn’t impress me to pay that much. Would like to see him for 60 games.
The Human Rain Delay
The smile and enjoy the comp pick is just silly
You smile if someone takes Jake Ordoozi and you get a comp
If you lose Mookie your looking for the nearest bottle to drown yourself in
redsoxu571
Betts has been nothing short of terrific almost since he hit the Majors, and was in the process of learning an entire new position at that time. He seems to excel at anything he does; I would bet on him declining gracefully and playing well at an advanced age.
Appalachian_Outlaw
That’s my thought, too. I’m sure as he ages the legs will go a bit. He won’t steal as many bags, and he may be a tick slower on the grass. The guy is a tremendous hitter though, and I’d expect that to continue.
lasershow45
He’s only 27.
Wyoming Bison Expansion Team
12 years? Betts did well to secure his pay day before corona starts messing with teams spending after 2020.
kodion
He did well to get it in before the next CBA negotiation. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was structured “around” that
kodion
Looks like it was …seeing a $65 million signing bonus.
Longboarder
How much guaranteed? I would like to see the fine print. Either way it looks like the Dodgers bought themselves a championship
Wyoming Bison Expansion Team
Pretty sure all of it since MLB deals are fully guaranteed.
Longboarder
I read it again. Fully guaranteed 365,000,000. Dollars and not pesos
chris08
Betts was on their team this year already, so any buying of championships was already completed when they traded top talent for his bat. Dodgers are the clear NL favorite for sure, but don’t count out the Nats and don’t be so sure that come WS time a team like the Yankees can’t knock them out.
Chief Two Hands
The Dodgers did not trade any of their top prospect talent. Not even close, really.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
100% guaranteed. Hope there’s a few opt outs. He’ll want at least 3 or 4
mlbnyyfan
Mets could of easily topped the Dodgers trade offer for Betts. I bet Thor, Conforto, and possibly Rosario gets Betts. If Mets fans wanted Betts then blame your new GM. Should of made Boston an offer they can’t refuse.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
That wouldn’t get Bellinger. Thor having TJS doesn’t help
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Even with Syndergaard’s injury problems, that would have been a horribly risky trade for the Mets.
The Human Rain Delay
You could take away every player not fostered by the Dodgers today and we will still have a better club than 20 teams-
By Fostered id be including Turner Muncy and Taylor who we made to be what they are
Ducky Buckin Fent
Good for the Dodgers, man.
I’m the opposite of a red sox fan. But I’ll freely admit he is a fantastic ballplayer. I’ll have a much easier time rooting for him as a Dodger, serious.
Good for him, as well. He’s: Getting Paid. That was – rightly so! – important to him.
With apologies to flyover land (where I currently reside) I’m excited to see some Yankee, Dodger World Series’. Two very good well run teams with a lot of stars. Wouldn’t be surprised in the least if they are the last two teams standing this Autumn.
P.S. I’d still rather have Aaron Judge.
redsoxu571
You’d rather have a player who isn’t better on a per game basis, is older, and has issues staying healthy? Bold move there, Cotton!
Lovinmlb
Might take judge but only if he could play every game in new york.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Per game basis they are both elite. Unlike whomever is in RF for the red sox.
Let’s just see how the numbers go *this* season. Uh?
I prefer Judge’s game. You may not.
Older by one year. This sounds like grasping at straws, man.
Most of his “issues staying healthy” are due to an HBP, & an anomalous injury due to a hustle play. I.e. overblown.
Also, the “bold move cotton” thing has really been done way too much. I guess I’m challenging your originality, man. It was sorta funny… about 4 years ago.
😉
30 Parks
Good luck, Mookie.
Oh, this crashing app. Frustrating.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Under his one year contract, Betts was getting $27M. Since this is an extension, the 13 year AAV is slightly north of $30.1M. Does that mean the extra $3M is counted (pro-rated) against the luxury tax this year, or will the contract count as $30.4M AAV starting next year?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Next year.
tigerdoc616
Ooofff! That is a lot of money. Happy for him, set for life and so are his grand kids. Who knows how this will work out long term for the Dodgers. Who knows if it will work out in the short term either. But should be fun to watch and find out. If it does not sure there will be plenty of “I told you so’s” out there but this is often what it takes to secure the best of the best.
FunkYaDodgers
Happiest Dodger fan right now. We needed this signing!!! since 2020 been so crap this is some great news
chris08
Don’t understand the point that the Dodgers “needed” this. He was already on your team! You would have assuredly gotten him back had you waited for free agency.
FunkYaDodgers
Yes we needed it because the past few years we have struck out (haha) on free agents. Comparative to the others Friedman was willing to sign (Harper, Machado) Mookie is that piece I think will get us a championship. I mean look at the lineup. Since teams are throwing around hundreds of million, its good they locked up a player that is willing to put in the work and effort. He WAS a rental. Dodgers didn’t have good track record of signing and there’s never any guarantee you will sign a guy like Betts long term.
FunkYaDodgers
Signing rentals**
The Human Rain Delay
I was gonna jump in but you got this Funk !
luckyh
Good for Mookie, but I have no issue with the Sox not going there.
gus911
But but but I thought the owners were losing some much money. How could this be? Things that make you go hmmmm.
angelsfan4life
This will go down as the worst contract in sports history. Considering he will be getting paid that much money to be a singles hitter.
FunkYaDodgers
Hahaha no it won’t dude what
chris08
in sports history, probably not. Ellsbury would probably have something to say about that. But it’s not a good deal, especially when considering that the Dodgers were bidding against themselves (no other big market teams were in need of Betts) and ahead of a free agency that promises to be slow. He would have been expensive either way, but probably could have gotten him for less had they waited. Might have even convinced him to go high AAV, short deal given the pandemic.
lasershow45
Chris Davis as well. Carl Crawford.
Even Stanton’s contract seems worse at first thought.
JustCheckingIn
Go look at his b ref page. And then be quiet
ukpadre
Honestly, it’s likely going to end up being a big burden by the end, but if they can get value on the front end and win a WS then it’ll be worth it for them. And if any team can absorb an albatross contract it’s the Dodgers. However, as a Padre fan I hope they don’t get that WS, but I wouldn’t bet against it.
BlueBleeder
You have to admit, its much better than your Padres Machado deal. The Dodgers can easily swallow this contract if it goes sour.
The Human Rain Delay
Make sure to grab your hate-raid in the fridge and sunscreen before leaving the house today-
Its a hot one out in Socal today
dbacksrs
As a Diamondbacks fan, I hate this.
Vizionaire
allegedly a cheater!
Asfan0780
Have a feeling matt chapman will be a dodger either through trade or free agency down the line. SoCal native, boras client. A’s uncertain stadium situation and inability to sign players long term, and turner pending free agency
olmtiant
Way to go Mookie, good for you!!! Thanks for your great years in Boston!!!
fletch
All that money playing for a team that will always finish second.
beyou02215
Paying him until he’s 39. Crazy. Good for him. Good for the Dodgers right now. Bad for the Dodgers later on.
BlueBleeder
In ten years, 30 mil per season will be chump change for the Dodgers.
olmtiant
From Red Sox stand point(I HOPE) Mookie for 300 plus or Benny, Xman, and Devers for same amount in extensions before F.A……
Dorothy_Mantooth
Devers is going to cost a ton to sign to a long term deal.
JustCheckingIn
LETS GOOOOO
Friedman, A round of applause!
No, A standing rounding of applause!
chris08
Lol. Long term contracts have a great track record of success in MLB. A-Rod, Cano, Ellsbury, Hosmer… even after one year the Machado and Harper deals look awful. I look forward to whether you’ll still be applauding come the midpoint of this deal.
JustCheckingIn
Mookie is better than every player you listed
You’re telling me the elite of the elite will be bad because mediocre teams overpaid flawed And historically lazy players. Mookie has one of the best work ethics of anyone on the best team in baseball
What a foolish line of reasoning. One man who’s different in every facet has nothing to do with the other
The_M4N
If you think Mookie is a better player than A-Rod when he signed that deal with the Ranger, your common sense does lapse you.
JustCheckingIn
If you’re talking about arod ranger deal, there’s no way it should be mentioned as one of the worst in history. It was a fantastic deal, rangers just didn’t build around him
Pretty safe to say he’s talking about yankee arod. At which point, I go back to my lazy comment
Lovinmlb
The Harper deal was $ well spent. Just because of the revenue he generates and Philly having lots of empty seats. They couldn’t predict not having fans at games. Other than that you are correct. Most these mega deals are stupid from day one. At least Betts is well under 30. Plenty of prime years left. Don’t like it, but nowhere near the worst ever.
The Human Rain Delay
Arods contract was a steal for the Rangers at the time –
Lol at Cano Ells and hOS
The Human Rain Delay
I obliged !
I literally just did that for you and all the nation
Congrats Common, today we are brothers….all bets off tommorow 😉
Dutch Vander Linde
He’s gonna spend about 7 of those on the DL.
Nobaseball20
Big contract, injuries seems to be the MLB norm. Trout been in a WS?
I know the real object is fans in the stands, beer, souvenirs etc.
It was the same for Babe Ruth, fans in the stands!
Chief Two Hands
Trout’s contract isn’t the reason he hasn’t been in a WS. That is due to the fact that he plays for an organization which apparently has no clue how to construct a competitive roster.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
A little surprised they were able to get him for less than $400m.
Not looking forward to having to face him the next 12.5 years. But FWIW he won’t be elite for all of that and if my beloved Padres had traded for him there’s a good chance he still goes to LA after 2020.
whyhayzee
I like the way this played out. Mookie wasn’t going to be a Red Sox lifer and have a certain path to the Hall of Fame so he now he will be a Dodger for even longer before he makes the trip to Cooperstown. In the meantime, the Red Sox got players and lost Pricey Price in the transaction. Not a perfect solution but maybe the best under the circumstances. Who knows, maybe we’ll see How old is Chapman smiling on the mound while Mookie circles the bases and leaps into the arms of his World Championship celebrating teammates. Or maybe it will be Matt Barnes on the mound, who knows?
JayRyder
$365÷12 – Not a Bad Deal.
They wanted another face of the Franchise. They got one.
-Years are always a concern, but that’s what it Takes. To get these guys. Long term deals that turn out Great in the Beginning. And so so towards the End.
About 10 years down the Road. Betts money won’t matter too much anyway…
AngelDiceClay
The women alone here in SoCal are reason alone to choose LA over Beantown. Have you’ve seen some those women in the stands at Fenway.
Chief Two Hands
Players obviously decline towards the end of big contracts like this but the difference with this contract is that, unlike teams like the Padres signing Machado, or the Phillies signing Harper, the Dodgers can afford it. People who think this will cripple the Dodgers are kidding themselves. I don’t always agree with Friedman’s decisions, but he plans ahead for this kind of thing.
SalaryCapMyth
Is it possible to agree with you and still see this as a bad contract? Yes, it is. As you pointed out, few teams can absorb this contract. If my Braves signed a guy at 10 years, $250 million, they would probably be crippled. Also, I feel better about this because the Dodgers are already a world series calibre team that is looking for that last piece to get over the hump.
The only knock to that is, he has this far been terrible in the playoffs. His .227/.313/.341 isn’t because he had one really bad year in the playoffs. He has been consistently bad in numerous opportunities.
MannyPineappleExpress9
So, does this deal make the Yelich deal look better or worse?
Chief Two Hands
It doesn’t matter because Yelich plays for Milwaukee. Also, it’s not just about the size of the contracts, but about how much those contracts impact the organizations that commit to them.
JustCheckingIn
The real question is how well can the organization build around that contract. Will Mil build a contender around the lower than market deal?
With other point, yelich was handicapped because of his current deal so hard to compare that vs a guy on the precipitous of free agency.
Indianfan
dumb, d, dumb, dumb
jessaumodesto
I’m a huge Dodgers fan, but had no idea we got Mookie Betts!
Ducky Buckin Fent
Wait.
You’re a self acclaimed “huge Dodger fan” but didn’t know they “got” *Mookie Betts*?
I can only assume one of two things:
– you’re actually a very casual (at best) Dodger fan
– somehow the internet is finally working under the rock you call home
I see no other possible explanations, sir.
The Human Rain Delay
Maybe he hit Taco Tuesday too hard an woke up late?
Orel Saxhiser
Mookie’s contract with the Dodgers runs through the 2032 season. After that, the Mets will still owe 69-year-old Bobby Bonilla for three more years.
The Human Rain Delay
Whew boy the haters be out today !!!
The same folks who claim the Dodgers would never ink a 300 mill contract now slide over to the “All big contracts” are bad field…..shocking
To all those who say Belli will leave now….fat chance….
Belli and Buehler will be the next big inks
Seager Joc Jansen are probably gone now long term- I think they already were before this but this solidifies that
We will play the wait out game with Price Pollock Kelley; all gone before Belli/Buehler come off
Kershaw and Turner will now probably have to take home-town discounts or we will sadly probably have to say Bye Bye
The young pitching in the pipes make this whole deal and future Belli/Buehler deals POSSIBLE……Instead of spending 9 mill for a Teherean or 10 on a Porcello they will have players in arb years like Gonzo May Buehler White Miller Santana Urias etc etc to keep that payroll under control
Conclusion- Great Job Fried….Very proud of you today….. Man oh man just watching the 2 first exhibition games Mookie just drives this offence to a NEW DIMENSION !!!!!
Orel Saxhiser
They’ll hang onto Seager, who, coincidentally, is my pre-season pick for NL MVP. Don’t forget how good this guy is when healthy.
Re pitching: yep, while other teams are overpaying for FA starters, the Dodgers will be building from within…and not until the pitcher is absolutely ready. The Dodgers are also deep in catching and middle-infield prospects. The way they develop players, it’s like conveyer belt. Draft player. Develop player. Then put a stamp on him and send him to Los Angeles.
Friedman is brilliant. The small market principles he perfected in Tampa Bay work well in a major market. Player development and payroll management. He is a master builder.
The Human Rain Delay
Fried is awesome but that player devel and drafting was here loooonnngggg before he stepped over-
Not being divisive I just feel they NEVER get their fair due in the community-
People laud Hou, yankees, flavor of the month all the time but NOne of them have touched the Dodgers in the past quarter century in development of our own
I think another team will push us out of Seager and Im fine with that.
Stevil
I could easily see Seattle going after Seager. He has hit in a number of pitcher-friendly stadiums and he could hit anywhere 2-6.
I just wonder if Kyle will be around in ’22.
The Human Rain Delay
I cant see Sea wanting to double down on the Seager ride-
I dont see Kyles option being picked up at around 12-13 mill in 22
Cin Atl Sf Tex Det make a lot of sense to me though
SalaryCapMyth
Why do you think Seager is out? Wouldn’t Taylor be his replacement? If that’s the case, the Dodgers are stronger with him. Maybe you are thinking the Dodgers will trade him to build the farm back up a little?
The Human Rain Delay
No I think we will be outbid on him after 2021 – Buehler Belli will be on the front of our minds
Id be open to trading him in the offseason if the we got some great value but I dont think you will get much for 1 yr on Seager so I think the play is just hold and shake hands with him after Cincy offers a 5 yr 90+ mill
JustCheckingIn
Go check out recent Corey seager at bats. He seems to finally be healthy after 2 years and looks like he’s gonna be on that 7 war pace from earlier in his career
The Human Rain Delay
Totally agree he looks fresh but that probably hurts the chances not helps of us re-signing him –
Hes gonna get paid in free agency…We have to pick and chose who now, and I pick Buehler and Belli
JustCheckingIn
Meh. There’s money around. My point is seager looks good. The dodgers would rather he be a weapon for 2 years and then have to decide if they want to re-sign him, than have him be fighting injuries. Of course.
They have 72M or whatever on the books after 2021, hence the backloading of this deal. There’s cash around..
The Human Rain Delay
Yup theres money around but theres also Belli and Buehler around too on arbs………
I get you like Seager but we cant resign everyone
JustCheckingIn
I never said everyone. I simply said their books are clean enough keeping one guy is not going to preclude them from someone else imo. Muncy is cheap next 3 years, Bellinger is under contract for 4 more, JT if he re signs will be heavily reduced rate, or short term
If seager is healthy, which he seems to be, and based on his at bats I’ve seen the past 2 weeks, there’s a decent chance Seager bounces back to his 7 WAR pace of his first two years. You don’t let that guy walk, unless you’re replacing him with a Liriano or Lux really steps into his own, when you plan to Legitimately compete for a title every year. They aren’t afraid of the luxury tax. It’s overblown by people trying to find the negative In keeping one of the best players in baseball on your team
The Human Rain Delay
Yea we shall see-
Hes absolutely locked in right now No doubt, swings a lot quicker and hes attacking the left center gap flawlessly-
Belli looks locked as well
Im sure theres a World where we keep all 3 but if its between Buehler Belli or Seager and 1 has to go its an easy call for me- Its going to be a catwalk but a damn fun one at that
pepenas34
Since is an extension does this has any impact on 2020 lux-tax penalty?
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Nope. The 2020 contract remained untouched. Mookie’s luxury tax hit is $30,416,667 every year until his contract is up.
Orel Saxhiser
That’s an important point. This is excellent payroll management by Friedman. Betts’ raise is less than $3.5 million.
Pageup
Love Betts. But his best years are behind him. Another big payday for a player hoping they’re going to repeat the years they’ve already had. Pujols got paid after a HOF 11 year career in St Louis. Mookie will be good for 4 years. Okay for 4 years. Bad for 4 years.
Orel Saxhiser
Pujols was already 31.
Lanidrac
…and he turned 32 before he played a game for the Angels.
Still, it’s almost always a mistake to pay a guy top dollar into his late 30’s no matter how good he is at the beginning of the deal.
Perksy
Way too much. They will regret this, teams will never learn. He’s 28 for the 2021, season and by the time he hits 35 he’ll be on the downside. They have him locked up until age 40.
Orel Saxhiser
The contract will pay for itself in no time.
DarrenDreifortsContract
As a Dodgers fan I’m happy that he wasn’t just a rental. Especially for just one meaningless season but no player is worth that amount of money and those 10 plus year contracts never work out.
JayKay
Well. Looks like all Betts are off the upcoming FA.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
This model seems like the future. Massive upfront signing bonuses to make a guy filthy rich immediately, then smaller AAV salaries going forward to control the team’s annual budget. Signing one guy for a massive bonus who gives you 10 WAR is like handing out the same money in smaller contracts to a handful of guys who each give you under 2 WAR.
prov356
Good for the Dodgers and for Betts. LA now has Betts, Bellinger, Trout, Rendon, Ohtani, and a bunch of other young talent between the two teams. I’d love to see a freeway World Series.
Koamalu
Betts will make $75 million in 2020. $65 million signing bonus and $10 million prorated salary of the $27 million he was due.
Insane.
Ducky Buckin Fent
It’s good work if you can get it.
JustCheckingIn
Welcome to taking advantage of the luxury tax situation this year….
Ducky Buckin Fent
You’re “common sense” appears to be out to lunch.
First there is no luxury tax in MLB.* Period.
Second it’s (once again) a signing bonus. Period. The exact same as any other signing bonus. Period. Period.
This is – quite simply- business as usual.
Period.
*Technically this is probably “common knowledge” as opposed to “common sense”. But…since we’re slapping folks I’ll stand by it’s inclusion.
Oh. Yeah. Period.
JustCheckingIn
Really?
1. No luxury tax? What exactly do you call the tax most contenders have paid within the last 5 years?
2. You come at my name because I got something incorrect that’s far from common knowledge- it’s something that was changed within the last 5 years. I was thinking a signing bonus was applied to the CBA calc for the year it was paid out. That’s how it was in the early 2010s. Oooohhh you got me on a rule update!
Seems like you were waiting for who knows how many posts for me to make the smallest mistake and jumped. Whatever dude. You’re so impressive!
Can’t say how glad I am to not be you
ChiSoxCity
D@##it!
Bill Skiles
“I’m here to win some rings.” – Mookie my man, welcome home!
With billions to spend, Bellinger is next. What a game, what a team. Having survived the bankrupt McCourt years, a little celebration is nice. Go Dodgers!!
mdunkel
Too bad Dave Roberts is still the Mgr. The Dodgers will win 110 games and in the World Series Kershaw or another starter will be throwing a 1 hitter in 3rd or 4th and someone gets a hit and out comes Mr. Over Manager and yanks him. Then the melt down pen will do its job and melt down and the Dodgers will again be a brides maid.
Lanidrac
To be fair, Kershaw has blown plenty of postseason games before the manager has had a chance to pull him.
Dom2
Knew they would when COVID put the season at risk.
sugoi51
To help pay for Mookie’s contract, the cost to be a cutout fan just went up to 100k.
Dorothy_Mantooth
I’m really surprised that Mookie agreed to $115M of the contract being deferred. Since he signed in LA, he’s paying the highest taxes of anywhere in the country (except maybe San Francisco), so I would have thought he’d want all the money over the life of the contract so he could invest and grow it.
I wonder how long the deferred salary runs for? By agreeing to the signing bonus and the deferrals, this will help LA lower their CBT annual hit vs. a straight up contract, but he will count against the CBT even after the contract expires. I just hope he can stay healthy through the majority of the contract. I’m sure LA will be insuring it too in case he gets a severe injury that causes him to miss full seasons. We already miss him here in Boston! Good luck Mookie & congratulations!
YankeesBleacherCreature
He’s getting $65M of his contract upfront free of CA tax. He can easily invest that money to offset any possible losses due to the $110M in deferrment. The signing bonus is still counted towards AAV for the duration of his contract.
Lanidrac
Does it really matter to him if his descendants get to inherit a few extra million or not?
kreckert
1) Good for Betts, the players should get what they can when they can because they are not the ones driving the market.
2) The fact that a team is willing to hand out this kind of money during the McSeason, and considering that it seems likely there there are going to be at least some restrictions on fan attendance next season, and beyond that we’re looking at a labor war, shows that all the crying the owners did about money in March and April and May was just so much garbage. The sport is highly profitable and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. No player should ever believe a single word that comes out of the mouth of any owner again. Period.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Well, the lynchpin of your argument was ending your post with “period”.
Golly. That sure sold me.
Period.
(blinkblink)
SalaryCapMyth
Period. That’s what you decided to respond too. Krecks post had real baseball topics that you could have agreed, disagreed, expanded on a point or just said nothing by ACTUALLY posting nothing. Instead you posted irrelevant drivel intended to be combative which is equivalent to nothing.
Ducky Buckin Fent
My post is equally valid as; Generic Anti-Owner Comment.
Plus mine was fun for everyone.
Period.
😉
JustCheckingIn
How much everyone wanna bet he liked his own post so it looked like someone agreed with him? hahaha
wild bill tetley
Not sure. After reading your comment I clicked the like button. Still haven’t read what he wrote.
Javia
Maybe he would have gotten the $420 million total value he demanded 3 years ago instead of the $365 total value he got now if there was no Covid-19. Maybe Mookie’s contract would not have had $110 million deferred and $65 million upfront if there was no Covid-19. I don’t think his contract is anything close to the hard proof that you are trying to make it out to be kreckert.
@”The players are not the ones driving the market”…Then who is? If it was up to the owners they would play the biggest stars $100,000 per year. If it was entirely up to the players every one of them would be making $1 billion per year. The market itself works these things out.
Rangers29
I’m very late to this thread, but nevertheless… This extension got me wondering, what is free agency going to be like this off-season. I guess this makes Springer the “premier” guy, which I guess makes teams like the Rangers, a lot less likely to get him. (He will be snatched up by the Mets, Red Sox, or Astros now) Also, will this extension let Springer get more money in free agency or less? My though would be more because, like I said, he is the “premier” player in free agency now. Earlier this week I imagined a Springer deal would be around 5 years 120 million, but now I could see him pushing 5 for 145-150. Lots to think about.
GreenWood Porter
He got $21M this season to avoid arbitration, so $24M/year sounds like a favorable deal for the team. I doubt they will give Correa a long-term deal with his inability to stay healthy, hopefully they can find a way to keep Springer after locking up both Altuve and Bregman.
CNichols
I think it helps Springer and Realmuto because they’re the premier bats that will hit the market now. The problem isn’t at the top of the market, its the rest of the FA market that is going to feel the lack of fans this year and the uncertainty of the current situation.
bxcrunner
Seems like an understandable structure. $65m plus $35m first two years salary is $100m. Leaves $265m for 10 years, $26.5 per year. $115 deferred means $11.5 deferred annually, so $15m per season now. More later.
of9376
Millie is great but This is absurd. 10+ year contracts never workout. Many teams have learned this lesson the hard way.
George Ruth
You really expect Mookie to be here for more than 1/2 of this contract
Lanidrac
It depends heavily on the player’s age. The first Alex Rodriguez deal was easily worth it (before it was extended), and the Machado and Harper deals have a decent chance of working out.
However, paying a guy top dollar until he’s 39 is almost always a mistake, especially when you’re stupid enough to backload the deal.
GreenWood Porter
I’ll still take George Springer over Mookie Betts, he won’t cost the team anything close to $365M to stay in Houston.
George Ruth
Well with this contract it will stop any top notch free agents from coming to the Dodgers for a while because the Dodger would have to dump salary to bring in another top notch player.
Lanidrac
They actually backloaded it?! Did they learn nothing from the Albert Pujols deal?!
jleve618
Backloaded so that if production and team performance trails off at the end they can pay a team to take him away and lighten the load.
JustCheckingIn
It’s backloaded and deferred. We don’t know exact structure yet, but they’ll be paying only a portion of his actual salary the year of age 37,38,39.. then rest later on. They aren’t going to be the angels, where the salary of an aged Betts will restrict them from signing a pitcher or anyone else. The dodgers are too smart for that to happen, to be blunt
ukpadre
Backloading actually saves them money as the current dollar value will be less in 10-12 years time due to inflation, etc. So it effectively evens out the contract over the full term.
rmullig2
When Mookie is inducted in Cooperstown he will be wearing a Dodger hat.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Unless they win a championship while he’s there I wouldn’t be so sure
JustCheckingIn
I don’t buy the idea that they are going to trade Mookie in the short term of this deal. I believe they think he will age well and he’ll be here at least 7+ years of the deal.
With that thought, any records Betts breaks likely happen in Dodger blue, especially if he retires here, as I think is plausible. He’s at such a high level, I don’t expect him to crater suddenly. He’s not just a speed guy, no matter what some like to imply here…. all that said, I don’t think it’s just a championship that decides something like that, assuming Mookie keeps a Cooperstown worthy pace. Very well could be he would place 12 of 18 years in LA…
JustCheckingIn
Something else to factor in with Boston vs LA negotiation talk. Boston negotiated with Betts from all accounts pre-27M agreement.
Therefore, unless It was reported otherwise, their 10/300 offer likely included 2020. So the dodgers really ended up at 13/392 vs 10/300 from Boston. It’s a very large gap in offers…
Gigorilla
Complete waste of money. Albert #2.
Stats inflated from Fenway. When his speed slows down in 2-3 years, this will rank up there with the Machado/Harper foolish deals. What a joke.
minhunglei
I am not sure if the Yankees shared the same mentality when they signed Ellsbury…
Good luck to the Dodgers!
JustCheckingIn
Ellsbury wishes he was ever as good as Mookie is, on either side of the ball
I’ll take a 300/370/500+ slash with the best RF defense in the game for age 28-39, and bet he’ll be worth the deal. Ellsbury was 25 points of OPS+ behind Mookie in their Boston time. It’s really not a legitimate comparison
ukpadre
Kind of puts a wrinkle in the owners’ whole “we’re too poor to pay anyone because of COVID” schtick. Lying cockroaches.
denistaylor
In about 7 years, he will be a full-time professional bowler.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Honestly, I’m a happy Sox fan. We saved money, got something back for him and kept him out of NY.