The Braves have decided to designate righty Mike Foltynewicz for assignment, manager Brian Snitker told reporters including MLB.com’s Mark Bowman (via Twitter). He’ll be replaced by reliever Chad Sobotka on the active roster.
This certainly rates as an early-season stunner. The 28-year-old Foltynewicz has had his ups and downs in Atlanta, to be sure. He was an All-Star just two seasons ago before experiencing enough difficulty last year that the Braves demoted him to the minors in late June. However, Foltynewicz rebounded when the Braves recalled him in early August, and they’re now committed to paying him a pro-rated portion of his $6,425,000 salary this season — unless another team makes a claim — and will be giving up another season of arbitration control.
Foltynewicz certainly didn’t look himself in his season debut today, coughing up six earned runs and three long balls while lasting just 3 1/3 innings in a blowout loss to the Rays. More importantly, he demonstrated a collapse in velocity that has been a concern during the pre-season ramp up.
“His stuff hasn’t been there,” Snitker told David O’Brien of The Athletic and other reporters in regards to Foltynewicz, who has averaged better than 95 mph on his fastball since he debuted with the Astros in 2014 but is now struggling to hit 90.
It seems as if the Braves have simply seen enough to determine that Folty won’t find another gear in 2020. No doubt the club will now count upon another team to take over the salary obligations — if not also to kick in something of value in return. Despite his current issues, Foltynewicz’s age and track record of production suggest any number of teams could take a chance on him. To this point, he has thrown 682 2/3 innings of matching 4.27 ERA/FIP ball with 8.6 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 at baseball’s highest level.
Atlanta, meanwhile, continues to deal with unexpected changes in its rotation. Perhaps in an ideal situation, Foltynewicz would have made up one-fifth of the back-to-back NL East champions’ starting staff alongside Mike Soroka, Max Fried, Cole Hamels and Felix Hernandez. Now, though, the only ones standing are Soroka and Fried – before the Foltynewicz DFA, Hamels went on the 45-day injured list because of a triceps issue and Hernandez opted out of the campaign as a result of coronavirus concerns.
Without Folty, Hamels and Hernandez, the Braves are down to Sean Newcomb and Kyle Wright as complements to Soroka and Fried. And while the likes of Jhoulys Chacin and Josh Tomlin carry plenty of experience as starters, Snitker said the Braves could use an opener instead of a traditional rotation option for the time being.
PapiElf
The Red Sox or Marlins are two teams who absolutely need to claim him.
Francys01
The Braves released him in an impulse. They needed to wait and see how he performs in the second start. He should remain in the same division, but with the Phillies. Vince Velazquez should be added to the bullpen and Foltynewicz in the rotation. Velazquez cannot pitch against the Marlins. I remembered last season, with a lead of 8 or 10 runs he blew the lead and yesterday with a four run lead he wasn’t able to pitch well. Foltynewicz could be a good pickup for the Phillies.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
I’m sure the Braves would love that so they could tee off on him, instead of seeing their teammate get tee-off on.
bravesiowafan
His velocity was way down
brown trout fisherman
Agree vince is better in spirts, would be great claim for the phils
Briffle2
It’s not an impulse. As a Braves fan, the guy has had issues his entire time with the Braves. He might have the worst body language of a pitcher I’ve ever seen, so I can’t imagine what it’s like trying to coach him. Now he’s lost 5+ MPH off his fastball. He’ll be 29 in a few months, enough is enough with this guy.
Appalachian_Outlaw
I’m a Braves fan, too- and I very much feel it’s an impulse. It was his first game in a jacked up season. How can that be anything but impulsive? Why isn’t the question being asked: why was his fastball down that much? That’s a significant drop for a guy that young.
Francys01
Bridle- His ERA was under 3.00 in the second half of the season last year. He just need to find the right pitching coach. He had a terrific year in 2018 with an ERA of 2.85.
Briffle2
There has to be more to this than just this start. I don’t really recall any impulses like this recently by the Braves. I wouldn’t be surprised if something comes out about an incident in the club house with Folty or him not reacting well to something with the coaches.
Or maybe it is an impulse, led by his game five start and overall disappointing career with the Braves. Maybe the organization just had it with him and decided to make a move to show the rest of the team the urgency of the season. Way too many strikeouts by the Braves.
Briffle2
So he’s been good for 1.5ish out of 6 seasons and lost 5 MPH off his fastball.
WAH1447
Because he pitched just like this against the Marlins last week. His velocity is way down. He pitched poorly last year as well, cost us the NLDS. The guy has had so many chances with the braves and everyone has been patient with him. We have way to much young talent to waste our team watching Folty struggle, it’s a good move the guy has a piss poor attitude and it shows time something goes wrong on the mound. Good move let all this young talent everyone says we have in the minors show itself
fsurules77
He is trash. He lost too much on fastball and is a headcase
DarkSide830
as a Phillies fan i don’t want Folty. VV is bad but Folty is too. not sure if he’s any better and that’s saying something
VonPurpleHayes
I can’t believe a small part of me fell for VV’s dominant spring. I really thought he turned a corner. He just can’t pitch in the bigs.
I agree with you about Folty. VV at least has better velocity. Folty is done. You can’t replace bad with worse.
oldmansteve
To think that an organization DFAs a guy in the middle of a rotation when they already have a lot of pitching injuries on “an impulse” kinda shows how little you know about how front office run. I’m sure it was more than “he had a bad outing” that led to their need to DFA him.
braveshomer
hey Jeff Todd!…have any of you guys tried looking at your App on an Android or specifically a Samsung android? Its terrible!..Love MLB trade rumors and was just curious (yes I know most apps are specifically created for iPhones 1st, just curious)
SalaryCapMyth
@francy. This isn’t a rash move by the Braves. It only seems like it to you because you haven’t been a scout or a pitching coach watch him every day for years evaluating and teaching him. He’s thrown over 600 innings and started 117 games for the Braves.
He just might do well somewhere else but that will probably be because expectations are going to be low and so he won’t have the burden of what some thought was a burgeoning ace.
paddyo furnichuh
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Al Hirschen
Mets need him
VonPurpleHayes
Mets definitely do not need him. He’s worse than all their options right now.
paddyo furnichuh
Red Sox? It’s doubtful that any claim they put would actually happen.
chippahawk
Hes held the Braves down for long enough and after last year’s embarrassment in the playoffs stick a fork in him. He was far from a stopper and you never ever knew what you were going to get out of him on ANY given night, good riddance. And go to anger management young man.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Wow
Slipknot37
Surprised also. It wasnt that long ago he was pitching great. Another team will give him a shot.
ajrodz1335
Rays killed him
braveshomer
everyone has killed him smh!
juanpursuit
Nats will take him
gdjohnson
Every team should take him.
Sts4255
Dodgers will get him
Logan10braves
That was fast….the game ended like 15 minutes ago.
coupofthecentury
Wow
bobtillman
That didn’t take long.
flabbit
Angels
jleblang
Astros
Bill M
Marlins will gobble him up
jawinks
Give Bryse Wilson the starting job
txtgab
Honestly if I was them I would have waited until the Phillies and marlins test results came back. Small to reasonable chance season could get paused.
FrankRoo
How would that change their decision?
They don’t want to pay him so either way they get out of paying him if the season ends or someone takes him. They aren’t going to tender him a contract at the end of the season in any situation unless he magically regains 5-6 mph on his fastball. They are desperate to get something for him after betting his velo would come back. With a short season there’s no time to wait and see if that happens, either he performs right now or forget it.
drtymike0509
I think he means that a pause might mean they could hold the decision and see if he can work through it on his own now/off-season. if paused no pay but he gains time to figure something out. I dont think any team will claim him at that price with a short season and future revenue drops in the forecast along with his rather large velo drop. He may be hurt and trying to tough it out? just a guess after watching today….
FrankRoo
That’s what I said would be they only reason not to. They know they aren’t going to tender him a contract even if the season gets cancelled. By then he may even have less or zero value. Right now a team may taken him and give up a low level player if the braves pay most of his salary.
If they wait he may be worthless and they’ll non tender him and get nothing.
trendysayings
Marlins have waiver priority, honestly would make their rotation quietly very solid
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Folty would be a downgrade….
Mjm117
8man is right…
At best Folty is SP depth.
GONEcarlo
If you’re the Marlins, why not? Seems like the perfect answer to fill rotation innings so that they don’t have to call up prospects too early.
VonPurpleHayes
Meanwhile in Philadelphia, VV and Nick Pivetta are on their 18th chance.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Braves thought they would have Hamels, King Felix, and at least a decent Folty, and now have none of them.. Veteran leadership is needed on that staff, and I don’t mean someone who is a backend type starter, but rather an ace, if the Braves are to make noise in the postseason.
Look at his 2nd half of 2019, he was awesome. How the hell did he go from that to a bum with a loss of that much velocity?
bravesiowafan
I’m wondering if it’s the elbow he’s had problems with if you watched him today you could tell something was clearly off
Briffle2
Yes, I did see him shaking his arm a couple times in the second or third inning. But he kept pitching and his stuff didn’t really change, who knows with him and his antics on the mound.
SoCalBrave
It’s not just physical, there’s probably something mentally wrong with him also. I hope he gets it together, even if it’s not with us.
DTD_ATL
He should’ve had surgery instead of going the rest and rehab route. That issue along with him being mentally weak leaves him prone to those type of games.
yaketymac
Red Sox on line 1
AtlSoxFan
Marlins get priority due to division alignment, and, doubt they pass him up.
yaketymac
Mask up in Florida, Mike.
Michael Chaney
The Red Sox could still trade for him though if they wanted to jump Miami
mlb1225
“I think my team should claim him”
-fan of any team
Javia
My team wants nothing to do with him and neither do I. Thanks.
The Human Rain Delay
Pass…this guy turned to frosty the snowman when the sun came out last time I saw him on the hill at Chavez
TradeAcuna
OMG OMG OMMG YES YS YES!!!!!!!
Guess I was right all along!
Hopefully, Newcomb either moves back to bullpen or he is gone.
Mrtwotone
Well, I agree with you on the sean Newcomb thing. Dude should be in the pen. He can’t throw strikes when he starts
inkstainedscribe
Could be a wake up call to Newcomb, too. Throw strikes. Get your delivery right. Get your head in the game.
TheDayMILBDied
Unfortunately, for Phillies’ fans like myself, after this weekend’s virus events, we’re very unlikely to see Spencer Howard anytime this summer. I don’t believe management would risk calling him only to have the season called due to the virus say in a week or two. You would burned a entire year of major league service for nothing.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Nice non-sequitur.
metsfan68
He only trails rzepczyenski in scrabble points with 31
pustule bosey
Isn’t scrabble available too? That would be quite the tandem
bravos4evr
Somerhing isn’t right with him. You don’t go from breezing 96 and topping at 98 to 90-91 topping at 92 in one season witbout either major mechanical issues or injury
bravesiowafan
Agreed something was clearly off watching him today wondering if it’s the elbow issues again
driftcat28 2
Every team would be smart to claim him so I doubt he falls far on the waiver wire. But man do I wish the Yankees could nab him
brandons-3
He may have the yips after last year’s game five. Needless to say, his velocity was down and honestly he looked about 25 pounds lighter. I’m betting there’s more to the story.
Needless to say, this is disastrous for the Braves. At this point, they have two guys in their rotation they can depend on and both are in their second full season. They’re starting a rookie tomorrow and Newcomb doesn’t look like he’ll be a starter long term. There’s little in the way of veterans with Felix and Hamels out.
Should’ve kept Julio.
bravos14
Physically he looks awful, much thinner than usual, I expect he’s going through a bad time in his life.
Ducky Buckin Fent
You’re the second person to say he’s lost a bunch of weight.
Huh.
The Human Rain Delay
I never understood how they let Anibal walk as well-
Soroka
Teheran
Anibal
Fried
would be a nice 1-4 right now
CNichols
I also feel like there has to be more to the story here because the Braves pulled the plug so quickly.
I completely get that the team has tons more data than us and they have scouts constantly evaluating him, so the Braves are in the best position to know how to handle him. With that in mind though, they knew his velo was way down and that he didn’t look good before this game. It’s weird to me that even with knowing he didn’t have his stuff that they decided to start him. Maybe they just wanted to see how it would play out in a real game, but if they already were iffy enough on him to consider cutting him loose, why not work him out of the bullpen and see if you can build him back up? Rosters are expanded right now, so it’s not like they immediately needed his roster spot for a fresh arm.
The way they DFA’ed him so quickly seems to signal they want him out of the organization ASAP and there is likely other factors at work here.
The immediate DFA tells me they were only concerned about getting him off their roster and
Phattey
Lord please let the brewers get him
WaRPhEagle
Wow. I’ve not been a fan for a while, but somewhat surprised it happened so early this season. I guess we will see more Of our young guns.
Astros2333
Baltimore or Detroit will claim him.
GoLandCrabs
Folty is one of those DFA that everyone wants their team to buy low on.
Appalachian_Outlaw
This feels like a very knee-jerk reaction. It’s the first game, and he probably, like a lot of guys, isn’t ramped up yet. That, or he’s got a health issue.
It’s a bit unfair to this guy that he’s getting that St. Louis game held over his head. The team lost that series as a collective.
daysauce
Theres gotta be something else to it… He had to piss someone off or something
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Getting torched in spring training and blaming a faulty radar gun will do it. He’s mentally weak, and can’t own up to his shortcomings.
leftyleftylefty
Agreed. Probably had a huge hissy fit for the umpteenth time and the Braves are probably over his act.
Briffle2
I know someone will take him right away, but did anyone watch him pitch tonight? He was 89-93, but mostly around 91. If he couldn’t be a successful pitcher averaging 95 and reaching 98, what makes you think he will after losing 5 MPH on his fastball?
He’s not a starter, but I don’t think he has the mentality to be a reliever. Maybe he can be the second guy out in a bullpen game, but he’s got a lot to figure out.
inkstainedscribe
He looked like he was afraid to throw a fastball anywhere near the zone and he wasn’t wild about his breaking stuff, either. It may be physical or mental, but it doesn’t matter now. The team has seen all it need ps to see.
nyyrulesbutimnotbiased
Yanks should grab him so they can trade him. Folty, tauchman, and deivi garcia would be a great 3 player package any team would want.
slowcurve
Many teams ahead of NY in the waiver order. No way he falls to them. Could see Marlins, Orioles, or Rangers going for him.
Javia
Yankee fans are crazy. A waiver wire pickup has ZERO value in any trade. Any team that wants him can go ahead and claim him…before the Yankees ever get the chance. Nobody will trade value for someone they already could have gotten for FREE. Wow.
The Human Rain Delay
Id say they are crazy but man Cashman has pulled some rabbits out behind the ears…… but yea they are crazy as hell….
Sounds like an amatuer fantasy league where you get 3 for 1 trades from owners who just picked the guy up for free 2 days ago….those always made me laugh
Ashtem
Red Sox need to get him
mj-2
Not sure why everyone is jumping on the Folty train. He’s been terrible aside from 1 season. Always been a head case on top of it. He’s had so many chances. It’s not just one game and they dropped him this has been ongoing for awhile now.
Best to cut ties. Time to give Tucker Davidson a shot
Appalachian_Outlaw
Smoltz at one point had some head issues, too, and it turned around well for him. I’m not saying Folty is going into the HoF, but why not ride it out for the rest of this short season to see how he does?
holecamels35
Each start is killing their shot at the world series. Good teams cut bait, bad teams wait it out.
mj-2
Smoltz struggles were when he was 21 at the very beginning of his career.
Not 28 over 5 or 6 years.
I admit I thought Folty had turned the corner in 2018. But the wheels came right back off 2019 and not looking any better in 2020, time to be done with this.
Ducky Buckin Fent
I mean… won’t the Marlins be claiming him?
(I know, I know…)
Man, that’s a pretty significant drop in velocity. I don’t watch much NL ball but – jeeez – I remember this guy as being a pretty good pitcher.
Bravo’s fans: what gives?
Appalachian_Outlaw
I wish I knew. Unless there is much more to this, I’m aggravated by this decision.
Briffle2
He’s a headcase for one. I wonder if he didn’t get his arm and body in shape while there was the stopage. I thought I heard Glavine say on the broadcast that his velocity was down at the beginning of last season as well.
Ducky Buckin Fent
I’ve read a couple comments noting a loss of weight.
I’ve read a few labeling him a “head case”. Guess I’m wondering what you guys mean by that. As a Yankee fan I’ve seen this label applied recently and fairly unjustly more than once; Sonny Gray (All Star in Cincy last year), Dellin Betances (one of the most dominant pitchers I’ve ever seen), & Michael Pineda (ummmm… maybe something there?).
I’m curious what makes you guys say that.
merci
Briffle2
Just watch him pitch and you’ll know what Braves fans see. He acts like a little leaguer when he doesn’t get a close call or misses his mark. He did look skinny and I have a feeling his arm and body isn’t in shape to pitch. I’m guessing there’s more to this than just a bad start or carrying over from game five.
inkstainedscribe
He’s always had inconsistent mechanics. When he can’t find his spots, he almost jumps off the mound trying to Will the ball past the hitter. Wish him well but he needs an overhaul mechanically.
Jon429
The move only feels rash because it’s a shortened season and teams can’t give extra opportunities to pitchers who struggle. Had this been April he would’ve been given a few extra starts, maybe a spell on the IL with a rehab in AAA. They don’t have that luxury this season. They also have at least 5 arms on the bench waiting for a chance in the rotation. As it stood before last night Folty was heading for a non-tender in the offseason unless he could return to his 2018 form.
This at least gives Folty a chance to get picked up by a team where he won’t have enormous pressure to perform and can figure things out. If he can’t figure out why he lost 5mph on his fastball he’s going to have to reinvent himself.
findingnimmo
Every team should be in on him. Instant pickup for the first team eligible to claim him. Especially for the next month or whatever with the extra roster size. If he drops to the Mets that would be a nice pickup to a lot in at five or six for them. Not sure I’m sold on porcello and stroman injury.
TradeAcuna
These people claiming they want their team to acquire him are truly misinformed. Stop watching your MLB Network fake experts. The guy is garbage. Always has, always will.
findingnimmo
Righttttt. Because every pitcher has a season like he did a couple back. That’s very normal.
Briffle2
A talent pitcher without the mental makeup put together one solid season out of six and you don’t think that’s normal? It happens all of the time.
TradeAcuna
Guessing you are a Met fan?
You think Harvey still has anything left?
No.
Neither does Folty. To be fair to Harvey though, he actually did have a legit season or two.
Briffle2
And Harvey’s struggles are tied to him getting hurt multiple times. Folty’s been pretty healthy, no injury excuses for him.
findingnimmo
I’m guessing you are not a mets fan and don’t know the full story with Harvey, refusing coaching help refusing minor league assignment chances to get figured out refusing to pitch from the bullpen. Harvey was the real deal, got hurt, partied wayyyy to hard and refused to bend when it could have saved his career. Now his arm is dead. Totally different story. The braves could have tried to either trade him or stuff him in mop up roles or long man and try to help him figure it out. The guy has a lot of talent. And no, great seasons like that don’t just happen all the time. He has it, just needs to be found again. I think it’s going to be a big mistake letting him go like that. But then again, I’m just a mets fan.
TradeAcuna
and what makes you think Faulty is any different.
Whatever. You probably have a nice tingling sensation right now thinking maybe your Mets will grab him so you are blindly optimistic and just want reassurance.
He has been a terrible arm since his debut. I’ve been saying it since day 1. Time and time again he fails when the team needs him.
Hopefully, now he is gone for good.
Newcomb should be next or at least put him back where he belongs – in the bullpen
But this is what the Braves get. Going cheap with Hamels and going after bad pitchers in Felix H. Now they have 3 massive holes to fill. The rotation has been a problem since the rebuild. They didnt address it. Now they feel the regret.
lasershow45
Dallas Braden and Philip Humber would like a word.
Both threw perfect games. Both had losing records. Both were gone quickly.
Happens all the time.
hammer_time24
He may not be the all star he was a few years ago, but he would certainly be better than some of the options my Orioles are going to put out there. Would you really prefer Tommy Milone over Folty?
TradeAcuna
My problem with Faulty is I knew he will never find it because he is not a good pitcher. Never been in his career including the minors.
So basically I was frustrated with the Braves because they felt they didn’t need to address the rotation because they had him and his potential.
Now the Braves rotation has three major holes and unfortunately, their #2 guy isn’t even reliable either.
Time to spend and trade the prospects.
holecamels35
Maybe a knee jerk move but the right move, 60 game season and a World Series favorite can’t afford to be sitting around hoping this guy figures it out while he’s killing the team each start and has no velocity. Whole season will be a small sample size, and it’s scary how many teams have awful pitching staffs. A team with not much to lose needs to pick him up.
urban schocker
Glad to see the Braves make a decision and cut bait, for whatever the reason(s). They need to be honest with themselves about Folty and Newcomb as they need to go or be recast as relievers, or both. Time for players to step up. Nice pick up of Chacin.
Bravesfan2210
100 percent agree. If they want to be better then a first round exit in the playoffs they need to move on from the inconsistencies of Folty and Newcomb and stop holding on to memories of the few shining moments they have had.
Ghost Pepper
First time I’ve noticed no comment from Darkside ; You feeling ok my man?
Mrtwotone
Yeah I know it’s weird. Dude is a mlbtr OG
soxfan1
Red Sox are in a luxury tax reset year and are 5 million under the line so far. Doubt they are willing to take on that salary without the Braves covering some in a trade or sending some salary back to them.
Imghei
Look how dumb thay guy is who thinks acuna is overrated
slowcurve
As a Braves fan who has watched him for years, my gut tells me there’s something going on at home, or he’s battling something the public doesn’t know. He looks thin. His fastball is down 5-6 mph. The Braves know something that we don’t. I wish him well and hope he bounces back with another team.
manos
Aaaaaaand queue the Red Sox claim.
James Midway
He won’t last long on the wire, there will be a lot of teams that would take a flyer on him.
agentx
Not sure how many teams will claim Foltynewicz off waivers, given his 2020 salary.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Another grab from Chaim Bloom?
In all honesty though, I was never sold high on the guy. Had one great season followed by injuries and mediocrity. He needs to be consistent for me to consider him a big game pitcher (that’s why the Braves dropped him).
I’d still take a chance on him considering the position we are in (Red Sox).
agentx
Waiver claim on even Folty’s medium-sized contract would be a bad use of Boston’s space below the tax threshold.
May be worth the Sox taking a look if ATL trades him plus significant cash to Boston or if Folty is released and subsequently available at the league minimum. Maybe.
The Human Rain Delay
This poor guy lost his soul on a warm day in Oct of 2018 NLDS on the mound at Chavez Ravine
I truly think that day has shaped his mentals from then till now
Ive never seen a pitcher so lost in my life as that poor guy did that day
Briffle2
Lol you must not have seen game five against the cardinals last season.
The Human Rain Delay
Minter Gohara Folty already toast
Newcomb/ Touki to the pen already
For some reason they let Anibal/Teheran walk for cheap
One has to wonder about the pitching coaches and descions made in ATl right now
Mrtwotone
They need starting pitchers way more then they need bats
hockeyjohn
It gives one thought about the rest of the Braves pitching prospects. In the short season, Wright and Wilson should get a look to see if they have it, or will also be busts.
Briffle2
Soroka is a stud. Fried looks to be a pretty good three or two. Anderson is the 37th ranked prospect. Kyle Wright is the 51st (I’m throwing in all my eggs on this guy, I think he’s figured it out and is going to be good). Wilson and Davidson look to have a lot of potential as well. It’s not like the Braves have had all failures with their pitching.
Gohara, Newcomb, Touki, Folty, these were all guys that the Braves traded for when they were bad. Not every prospect is going to have long solid careers. Minter had one great year and we all know how volatile relievers are. Folty had one great year and some decent stretches mixed in. Newcomb has been good as a starter and a reliever, despite all of his control issues. Gohara obviously was a big failure and Touki looks like he’s headed in that direction.
The Braves made great signings in Dallas Keuchel and Anibal Sanchez, even if they let him walk. The trades for MM, Green, and Martin were all solid moves and I think the Will Smith signing will play out well as well, he should be back soon. Hamels signing is bad for obvious reasons, but Teheran has yet to pitch himself and his career is on the downtrack.
So you can point to some failures, like I said not prospect or move pans out, but it’s pretty clear, overall, the Braves have been making the right moves.
stretch123
Marlins, Red Sox or Orioles
Mrtwotone
wow you think they would give him a shot in the bullpen. they need Tucker Davidson up to start some games. They also need to make a move for a capable starter. Matthew Boyd, Quintana, anybody really
Briffle2
Quintana is hurt dude and Boyd is overrated.
wild bill tetley
This is the year you claim Folty, thanks to expanded rosters. You hope for a dead arm rather than a damaged arm in-need of a procedure. Send him to the training site, see if his fastball builds up and put him in your bullpen. Wouldn’t mind if the Blue Jays took a look.
dvmin98
Do it Preller…do it. We have an open spot on the 40
DarkSide830
one year wonder
fishy2022
Detroit
Bravesfan2210
The Braves have bigger aspirations then being the 3rd or 4th best team in the NL, and they worn get better if they keep sending Folty and Newcomb out there like they have over the past 3-4+ seasons. This seems like an impulsive decision, but I think it was more the last straw. Braves are better off giving Ian Anderson, Tucker Davidson, etc a chance to develop then running Folty and Newcomb our there. This certainly makes this year look not so great, but if they truly want to contend for NL titles and beyond, they have to be aggressive and move on from players that hold them back. The Braves rotation has no chance against dodgers, rays, Yankees, etc.
Newcomb is next.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Newcomb is a pretty solid RP, and I’d keep him in that role. I do agree he has no business starting.
Bravesfan2210
Agreed he belongs pitching in long relief in low pressure situations. 5th or 6th inning. He found a successful role there last year should not have been bumped into starting.
DarkSide830
Newk could pitch a perfect game and Braves fans would still think the guy was garbage. Julio 2.0.
Bravesfan2210
Agreed he belongs pitching in long relief in low pressure situations. 5th or 6th inning. He found a successful role there last year should not have been bumped into starting. Newk had no idea where the ball was going Sunday night. 82 pitches to pitch 3.1 innings is just not good enough if you are trying to be one of baseballs best teams
Bravesfan2210
I don’t understand the comparison. Julio was the epitome of consistency although he didn’t have great stuff, you knew what you were getting. Newcomb although 1 out of 10 games he looks like a stud, he also has a lot of mediocre outings or outings like Sunday where he had ZERO idea where the ball was going.
kodion
Teheran and consistent in the same sentence?
Go look at the game logs if memory is an issue. The one thing Julio is not …is consistent.
Bravesfan2210
Through the past 7 seasons he has thrown at least 170 innings with an ERA mid 3’s to low 4’s. I’m by no means high on Julio, but you had a pretty good idea the type of production you were going to get from him year in and year in. How was he not consistent?
kodion
I didn’t say he’s not useful. And, in your context, he was a useful, consistent, producer.
But he didn’t get there with game performances that mirrored his season numbers. One, or two, excellent outings followed by, occasionally multiple, really poor ones is his norm. Julio doesn’t do average very well, even if HIS averages are, in fact, pretty solid.
I will say this: Give me a guy who puts up those career numbers on a day-to-day basis (rather than seasonally like JT) …in other words, just be good most of the time …he’d be a mainstay in my rotation
Bravesfan2210
Agreed he was a useful consistent producer. I am not suggesting he was above average. I just think him and Newcomb are not at all comparable, as I stated earlier. I guess my overall point is I’m glad we moved on from Folty to be honest, and I think we need to move on from Newcomb (as a starter).
angt222
Could be an option for HOU’s rotation now that JV is out.
king beas
Ian Anderson getting called up now?
Questionable_Source
What are the rules regarding injured players? To me, it seems like he was hurt, didn’t tell the team, and now it’s too late to do anything about it, so they’re letting him go. Tommy John now and he’d miss most or all of next season and then he’s a free agent.
Fred McGriff
The guy that should never have started Game 5 in the NLCS, it should have been Keuchel..
Questionable_Source
Folty pitched great in game 2. Keuchel pitched game 4. I think they were trying to get cute. They were set up to have Soroka pitch game 1 of the LCS, after piching game 3 in the Cardinals series.
Appalachian_Outlaw
I feel like the issue with Folty is so many fans started to view him as an ace after 2018, and he was being held to that standard. He flashes that potential at times. Marty Reed called him one of the most talented pitchers he had ever been around, outside of Kershaw.
He’s a mid-rotation arm who can occasionally pitch like an ace, though. I don’t say that as a slight, either. Good teams need those. That’s why it frustrates me that the Braves gave up on him.
They may have younger, cheaper options coming. There would have been no harm in giving him 3 starts, though. If the fastball doesn’t return, you IL him. Someone would have given ponied up something for him. As it stands, they gave up on a talent, and severely undercut their leverage in a trade.
wild bill tetley
Sounds like AJ Burnett.
Fred McGriff
The Braves will be fortunate if they make the play-offs, but it’s not going to happen with this rotation. Snitker is going to have to use the bullpen a whole lot more, and that’s the way to go in a 60 game shootout.
99 Captain Judge
Folty is definitely worth taking a flier on. Especially if he can gain that velocity back with his fastball. Someone will claim him, & try to figure him out
Simple Simon
Especially IF!
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
He just pitched the other day.
Ronk325
Folty has too much talent to just give up on like that. He’ll be a good pickup for whoever gets him
Dorothy_Mantooth
If he only lost 1-2 mph off his fastball then it would be worth the risk, but losing 5-6 mph is a major concern for a 29 year old pitcher. Reminds me of what happened to Chris Sale before he ultimately went under the knife. While the Red Sox desperately need pitching, they should probably stay away from Folty; he’s clearly damaged goods.
BabyBraves2.0
As a Braves fan,
It kinda pisses me off the disrespect shown to this man, that hours ago was a part of this team and everyone loved him.
It’s hypocritical to hours later say good riddance.
I always liked Folty and still do. It’s unfortunate what happened.
And I wish him the best of luck wherever life takes him next.
DrDan75
I’m not a Braves fan, so his departure means little to me from a fan’s perspective. It is probably a good move for the Braves though. Cut ties early in the season and move on.
TradeAcuna
Given we currently have people supporting the backward M.L.B, it is not surprising people can be this stupid. BUT cmon, people here are upset Faulty is gone? Do these people even watch the Braves without their rose colored glasses on? It’s like they are forced to support every player blindly. These are the same ppl who were probably upset Teheran is gone too.
And you wonder why the Braves have been terrible in big games.
Teheran is gone. Check
Faulty is gone. Check.
Newcomb is next (hopefully).
toastyroasty
I predict that the Braves will live to regret this decision. At least most of them
rickytrommer
I think he was cycling on a steroid-like substance. He’s not on it right now and his performance is suffering. Without any sign of an injury, you don’t just lose 5 mph on your fastball at the age of 29, unless he has a dead arm and the velocity comes back within a week or two.
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