2020 salary terms still need to be hammered out. But what about what’s owed to players beyond that point? The near-term economic picture remains questionable at best. That’ll make teams all the more cautious with guaranteed future salaries.
Every organization has some amount of future cash committed to players, all of it done before the coronavirus pandemic swept the globe. There are several different ways to look at salaries; for instance, for purposes of calculating the luxury tax, the average annual value is the touchstone, with up-front bonuses spread over the life of the deal. For this exercise, we’ll focus on actual cash outlays that still have yet to be paid.
We’ll run through every team, with a big assist from the Cot’s Baseball Contracts database. Next up is the Angels:
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I can’t believe that nobody’s caught onto it yet.
that you changed your name?
Bingo! You win a prize of imaginary applause.
Can’t wait until you become known as 64yearoldbaseballfan.
Happy Birthday, kid! Wish there was some live baseball for you.
Hmm, I’ll aim for 100yearoldbaseballfanatic.
Happy Birthday!!!
Thanks, bro!
didn’t you used to be 13?
Everyone who lives to be 14 used to be 13.
Well unless your birthday is on a leap day
Yup.
Happy Birthday kid mine is also today but I’m 24:(
Hey, maybe 10 years from now I can relate xD
Pujols is only one more year. It’s no longer a big deal. He has maybe 500 ABs left in his career.
Rendon was a little front loaded. What a bummer for the Angels. They lose one of his “cheap” years.
That would be backloaded.
But yes, this year he’s at 26mil, 28 next then 38 the remainder I believe.
LOL. Thanks. Of course.
Yeah, but they miss out on paying Pujols and Upton. This year is favorable for them overall.
They’re losing a prime year of Trout, Rendon, and Otani. Plus maybe one of the final productive years of Upton’s career. Not paying Pujols his money isn’t really worth losing all of that, there isn’t really that much money left on his deal in the grand scheme anyway.
Actually the Angels are one of the teams benefiting a lot with no season. That’s a whole year of big contracts they don’t have to payout. The Dodgers are making out too. Not having to pay Price, Betts and Kershaw. What other teams have big contracts they don’t have to pay? Oh, how about the Chris Davis contract? SCORE
I don’t work for the Dodgers’ front office, but I would bet they really *did* want to pay Betts, Kershaw, and Price to play, since they don’t have Betts after 2020, and Kershaw and Price will be another year older in 2021–the mid-30s are rarely kind to starting pitchers.
When you’re hitting, 2/4 is outstanding. When it comes to big contracts, 2/4 can set you back a few years. And this current view doesn’t even include past mistakes such as Josh Hamilton and CJ Wilson…
I don’t think CJ Wilson was much of a mistake.
1) He made the all star team with the Angels.
2) The first three seasons he pitched 590 innings and had and had a .614 winning pct.
3) He had 98 starts in those three seasons.
He got hurt in year four and didn’t pitch in year five. But as far as mistakes go, that’s a very small one.
he got hurt in racing and bought a mazda dealership while on dl.
Thank you Halo11 !!!
I have NEVER understood the hated for Cj from Angel fans
Like you said if ONLY the Angels could overpay a guy who pitched 590 inns in the first 3 years.
I think the issue with Wilson was he seemed as though he didn’t care whether he played or not. He was distracted with racing and it made people mad even though he was injured. He seemed apathetic towards baseball while the Angels had huge money tied up in him for no performance.
If your test is visible fire in the player, you must have hated Garret Anderson.
Wait… Vlad Guerrero is the only Angel in the Hall of Fame?
Nolan Ryan should rightfully have gone in as an Angel , but Guerrero should maybe have gone in as a ‘spo, so I guess things balance out
It’s his decision to be in the hall of fame as a ranger.
He should not have had that decision. It wasn’t close.
Ryan had a 40 WAR with the Angels, 25 WAR with the Astros, 15 WAR with the Ranges.
It’s because of players like Ryan that they removed the choice from players. If it’s reasonable, they’ll get a choice. Ryan’s choice was not reasonable.
He did it to parlay a job after baseball. He should be in as an Angel.
Eh, I’m a little torn on that. In some ways, I agree with you- this being a great case in point. On the flip side, there are times when teams and player split… Less than amicably. In that event, is it fair to force a guy to wear a cap he doesn’t want to? I don’t know, there’s no real easy answer.
Maddux does not have a team on his cap. I’m OK with Ryan not having a team on his cap.
It’s just like Reggie Jackson would’ve gone in as an Athletic instead of a Yankee if he didn’t get to choose.
Doesn’t their future payroll always feature that?
Rendon making more than Trout in any year is a joke. He’s a fine player, but seriously, not close to Trout. Fortunately for the Angels, they have only one more year of Pujols’ terrible deal and two more on Upton’s. After this year, they’ll be able to spend a little more freely and hopefully make smarter decisions. I’m not an Angels fan, but it’d be a shame for the best player of this generation to only get to the playoffs once.
pujols deal brought in extra $1 bil in tv money. that allowed rendon to be signed.
People forget that. As a business move, the Pujols signing was a great move. As a baseball move, it stunk.
Baseball is a business.
As a Rangers fan, we all know pitching wins!!! Texas has had serious offensive over the years but very little pitching!! Looks like the Halos are in the same position!!!
Tell that to the 92 and 93 Blue Jays.
Run Differential wins typically wins. It’s hard to have run differential if you can’t pitch.
Juan Guzman was an All-Star in 1992 and was in the hunt for the Cy Young until he went on the DL. They also traded for perennial All-Star David Cone. Having Jack Morris and Jimmy Key didn’t hurt either. 1992 Blue Jays bullpen was deep.
1993, Pat Hentgen made the All-Star team. Still had Guzman. Had Dave Stewart, Al Leiter and Todd Stottlemyre (no slouches). Still had a deep bullpen. Any one of them is an ace on your Angels. No, Ohtani is not an ace until he can actually start and finish a season.
If it wasn’t for the stupidity of Arte Moreno, John Mozeliak would have been fired years ago. Damn you Arte!
Unfortunately DiPoto set the Angels back a decade. I’m sure he wasn’t the only one in on some of the big garbage deals (Hamilton, Wilson), but he did destroy the farm. He took them from one of the top systems to literally the worst. They are still trying to build a respectable system.
signing baldoquin for $8 million bonus set us far back also.
You’re on fire today.
That Upton deal is just devastating so far.
We committed all that money to an older mediocre outfielder and look at how the corner outfield market has turned the last few years. Eppler has made terrible terrible terrible calculations.
Upton had a freak injury last year.
His OPS+ with the Angels was 136 and 121. His deal only kills the Angels if the freak injury affects his play.
and dipoto not reading market trends and adding 1 more year and more money to the deal.
That I didn’t understand. Adding time on the Upton deal made no sense.
I know “Dipoto” was a brain cramp when you meant “Eppler” and no edit tool exists on this site.
But I will argue that Eppler’s deal was smart at the time, and had we played a full season 2020 that would have been borne out. Upton was on fire when he arrived to the Angels after the trade, and was under contract for about $22M a season through 2021. Because of the opt-out he could have left, but Eppler’s deal kept Upton and restructured his salaries to *lower them* for 2018-2020, and added 1 more year (2022) for $28M.
That restructuring helped to get Trout signed to his extension, since it allowed for a bump in his salary immediately, and showed him the Angels were spending for the offense in the lineup.
2019 was horrible for Upton due to the toe injury which clearly threw off his lower body at the plate when he finally did return to action. But he did post 1 WAR just in the few weeks with the team in 2017 post-trade, and 3.6 WAR in 2018. A healed (no pun intended) Upton in 2020 could easily been in 2018 form (he doesn’t turn 32 until August)—we don’t know now if there will be a 2020…
Halo11 – Upton is a mediocre career hitter and lazy defender. His career BA is .266. His 2 pre-injury years with the Angels he hit .245 and .257 – again very mediocre. I’ve never seen the hype match the performance. If you compare Calhoun’s highlight video with Upton, Calhoun is leaving his feet for impossible catches, showing off his cannon arm, etc. Upton’s highlight videos include a bunch of catches he made at the wall and a couple homers…that’s it. I just don’t see it.
That’s just my opinion.
Prov, it’s everyone’s opinion outside of Orange County.
I hope so Bill. I think the contract has been a waste of money.
check his war numbers. he has been a very valuable player when not injured.
Vizion – I’m not a stat expert, but WAR is subjective. The three entities that calculate it each use a different method. There is no objective formula for WAR so it’s based at least partially on speculation. It’s not recognized by MLB as an official stat.
war is good at determining overall value of a player. it is not perfect but better than determining valu of a player based on batting average alone.
I agree BA is not sufficient for a total evaluation, but I prefer stats that are based on hard numbers. For me, watching Upton play is the best indicator.
No—WAR is objective, since the numbers say what they say.
This is different from a subjective analysis, such as “CJ Wilson stinks because I never saw him look fired up.” It isn’t that your eyeball test is worthless, only that it is colored by your subjective point of view.
Yes, BRef, Fangraphs and BBProspectus do calculate WAR/WARP *slightly* differently, but rarely do you see wild divergence in the scores across a full season. The core data used are common to all.
Hi Geo – “No—WAR is objective, since the numbers say what they say.”
I have no idea what that means. However, unless WAR is based on a formula at it’s foundation, I believe there is subjectivity in the basis used to derive at a number. Let’s agree that whether WAR is subjective or objective is subjective.
The fact that MLB doesn’t recognize it as an official stat partially drives my lack of interest in it also.
J-Up can be streaky, but he’s a really good ball player. The contract wasn’t a mistake, by any means. Team and player just caught a bad break with the injury. It’s unfortunate, but those things can’t be helped.
i agree. maybe getting him hitting disks help him more. i forgot the coach’s name, though.
towny townsend! what a great coach!
Nothing Wrong with the Upton deal. He was hurt last year. The year before he hit 30 home runs and had 85 RBI. He has had a very good player over the last six years. Now if he returns to his normal numbers the next couple of years than it will become an excellent deal. If he has two more injury years than it could be considered a bad deal.
56 players hit 30 hrs last year in the Bigs
Thats not a thing anymore, and certainly not a 25 mill/yr thing
Excellent deal? Hmm
Just look at those four Angels contracts and try to believe that many fans accuse owners of being cheap … truly unbelievable.
angels stopped paying minor leaguers and scouts.
sandman – I give the Yankees three years before the fans start complaining about that horrible Cole deal that will tie them up for years to come. The people who complain that Moreno didn’t pay a billion dollars to snag Cole are the same people who complain when a player falls off his performance and is still owed a lot of money. Some people are never satisfied.
10 years in 12 career playoff abs for Trout….
Maybe some are just satisfied too easily?
For those of us reading on a phone, it would be better to put a summary in the article itself (player, last year of contract, total dollars) so we don’t have to click to open something with unreadable tiny print.
Todays Fun Fact-
If the Angels dont make the postseason again with Upton, Trout will go into 2023 with more yrs played in the bigs (13) than playoff abs (12)
The problem with Justin Upton isnt Justin Upton himself its what his salary doesnt represent in starting pitching- Ofc thats all Arte and sadly this one man holds one more chance to deliver fame to the greatest baseball player who probably ever has existed in Trout. Will he learn to spend on the mound? THeres no help coming from below, Im skeptical
Before the Upton acquisition the Angels struggled to field a decent outfield. Upton was very productive for the 1 1/2 seasons following. The freak injury at the end of 2019 Spring Training cost him all of April and May and part of June. When he came back he struggled to find any rhythm at the plate. I was expecting a good bounce back year from him. Joe Adell is almost ready and will play right field and Marsh is not far behind to play left field or vis versa. This will allow Upton to be a DH when Ohtani isn’t pitching. Of course, the pitching is at best suspect.
So sick of hearing about how trout is the best player ever….. he’s not. Get over it. He is the best there is right now. Nobody can debate that. But to say the greatest ever is ridiculous. Up to this point in his career, Pujols killed his numbers with the stick. KILLED….. i know people don’t like counting stats but they exist, and up until a few years ago war didn’t. You know how phony war is? Some years Arenado is worth just over half the war of mike trout, despite out hitting him in homers, rbi, and hits almost every year dude( I know there’s a Coors effect ) guess them walks trout gets are more valuable than ANY counting stat…. Trout plays a good center but he’s not as good of a defender at his position as Nolan is at his. Coors doesn’t help Nolan field on the road now does it? I know I know but… but it’s center and it’s harder to play….. so I guess we penalize people for some made up stat because they don’t play center. Had trout played anything but center, his war would never touch 9 or 10. Trouts a great player, the best there is. A way better all around player than Pujols was, but he isn’t the same hitter. Know why Albert had 93 rbi at age 80 last year? He hits in the 5 or 6 hole a lot yes, but he hit .294 with risp mike the greatest ever the god trout hit .297. pretty much the same! In Alberts age 27 season he hit .331 with risp. Mike won’t ever hit 300, 30+, and 100 rbi ten years in a row. Sorry to rant like stand up guy, but I have had enough trout goat talk. Your basing it off war too much dude.
Mike Trout is (probably) the best baseball player to ever play! Ill stand by that and I cant stand the Angels
Trouts yr 2 – current MVP finishes
2012- 2nd
13- 2nd
14- First
15- 2nd
16- First
17- 4th
18- 2nd
19- First
Thats insane
The only reason why Trout isnt talked about more is because he refuses to ever turn the spotlight on himself like every other player does these days
God willing he can stay healthy for another 10 years and he will be known as the greatest player ever the day he retires. I dont plan on attending many games in the future but you better believe I will be at that game
I hate that a guy like Arte has so much control over his playoff destiny that will no doubt be the only question mark on his resume by haters like yourself when all is said and done
Dude I just took the war argument apart. War is based off league averages and when Albert first came in the league everyone was juiced and had even better stats. So had he played in today’s game his war would be even higher. Besides war and ops+, there is no trout argument. As for second place finishes maybe you heard of a guy named Barry bonds. Pujols has three 2nd place finishes behind him. So no juicing Barry equals 6 time mvp Albert. And as for trouts mvp’s I already said he’s the best there is, but one year he won with 29 homer’s dude. This isn’t 1909 where you lead the league with 15…. if you don’t hit home runs than you better get 50 steals or 130 runs man. He won that mvp because his level of competition. You can’t make an argument based on level of competition because Pujols had harder competition. Agree with you in one aspect, he has to do it for ten more years. THAN I’ll admit he’s the best ever. I don’t understand how ppl crown people after a few seasons.
You wrote 1,ooo words with no stats, Nice !
Hmm Barry then talking about how balls are juiced right now for Trout….
Yea you got me!
“God willing he can stay healthy for another 10 years and he will be known as the greatest player ever” (The Human Rain Delay 47 mins ago)
Agree with you in one aspect, he has to do it for ten more years. THAN I’ll admit he’s the best ever. (Warisalie 29 mins ago)
So my question “Wheres the beef”?
The beef is you called me a hater when in the very first post i said he was the best player in the game right now. Never said nothing about juiced balls. I made the Barry argument cause you brought up the mvps.
your grasping for straws because you can’t refute the fact Pujols was the better hitter , you had to put words in my mouth about juiced balls to try to make your argument for calling me a hater. Go read what I said, never said trout hits juiced balls. It bothers you ppl had better stats than trout. I said everyone was juiced when Pujols played so the league average hitter had more talent. Go read you moron.
Your rant with War just shows your level of knowledge. As if we didnt already know within your first 2 sentences of citing Rbis as a way Pujols was better than Trout you make it very clear for us soon after-
I never said anything about War
Im guessing your just an old dinosaur who gets upset if Anything today is better than anything from the past. Its obvious you have no clue what your talking about here- Good day
Dude my level of knowledge shows that war is a flawed stat. I’m not some dinosaur who thinks everything was better back then, but if two guys have a .400 on base percent and guy number 1 has 150 hits and 120 walks but guy two has 200 hits and 80 walks. Guy number 2 is more impressive. Not sure why that’s so hard for you guys to understand
Not sure I’m a hater because I said he’s the best there is, you just got burned and you can’t accept it. You had nothing to refute me. And as for arte give him a break he at least spends money. Not many people open the checkbooks like he does( I agree not the most efficiently )
You had to remind me….. thanks! Word series?post season? lol. Right! He won’t ever make it cause he ain’t clutch enough. Like that one time he made the playoffs and didn’t even hit .200 against the royals lol…. hahahahahha. Too funny. (At this point I’m doing it just to get under your skin) I know with a larger sample size he would do just fine I’m just messing with you. A rod didn’t play well in the postseason until 2009. And then he crushed it. So I agree with more chances he will be just fine. Give arte a break tho man. Two good starters and you guys would obviously be deadly.
It aint you guys, I cant stand the Angels
And I totally agree my man!!! Guess what? My initial post was ALL about turning Juptons 25 mill per year into those 2 good starting pitchers!
Yes Angels need 2 more good starters right now so Trout can beef up those 12 career playoff abs.
I dont see Arte going up to 185-195 mill payroll so they cant buy those starters in free agency with Uptons contract. Upton himself isnt a terrible player but that allocation of money is just devastating and thats without even factoring in your DH is clogged, you have Trout forever and your 2 best prospects are OF’ers as well….
Im not cutting Arte that break, I just cant with what hes made of Trouts first 9 years
Hey man I just want to apologize. Even if you don’t want to accept it, in which case I’ll understand. I shouldn’t have said anything inflammatory about your post. You’re Obviously allowed to have your opinion, it’s a free country brother. I got sidetracked About mike being goat ( which I have my own obvious opinions about ) and in reality we agree on your original comment that the best player in the game needs more postseason opportunities. On a different note though brother, I’m not a geezer. I’m only 32 lol. Have a great night
Homers, RBI, and hits create an illusion of a good player and aren’t 100% accurate modern statistical benchmarks. It’s part of the reason why WAR was created in the first place. wRC+, SIERA, and FIP are other examples of different types of statistical analysis being used today in baseball.
They may be used in today’s game but it doesn’t make them superior stats man, you still have to hit the ball to get hits. I guess a rod hit 696 bombs that meant nothing then right? I guess people who bat three bills every year don’t equate to today’s game either? I just showed you the stats with risp, war doesn’t evaluate clutch, it’s a flawed stat man. Not trying to argue I know it’s your birthday but war isn’t the end all be all.
You should change your user name to Schooled by a 14 year old.
By the way, after first nine seasons which Trout played at least a year younger and did not play a full first season, the rWAR score is Pujols 73.8 to Trout 72.8. That’s pretty even. They’re both future Hall of Famers. Both made eight All-Star teams. Trout had seven Silver Sluggers, Pujols five. Pujols got a Gold Glove award and was more durable. But I like Trout’s chances to surpass Pujols over the next ten seasons.
You can like his chances all you want he has to hit 30 home runs a season for the rest of his life to pass that home run total. Lol. Pujols beats him in almost every statistical category. But don’t let the stats get in your way lol. Matter of fact based off first seven seasons only Pujols, Frank Thomas and ted Williams all had better careers through seven. And if you look at pure counting stats ( I know you can’t ) he’s hit hundreds of more rbis than mike and hundreds of more hits. It’s honestly not close. But don’t let the fact he has a high war because of the position he plays get in your way. Nope. Mikes The best ever right. Add to that some ppl actually win World Series
How did I get schooled? Because your young and believe in a fantasy stat called war that doesn’t even have a singular formula? Lol ok….. it’s clear you never seen Any other good players play. Nobody said trouts garbage, it’s funny how much on his jock you guys are. I said he’s the best in the game right now and it still isn’t good enough for you, I guess if you don’t think he’s the best to ever play the game you just don’t know what your talking about. He’s never gonna pass alberts hits or rbis. Might catch him in home runs but even that’s a stretch, mikes not durable enough in my honest opinion. Best in the game sure, but again, let him play ten more and see where he is at.
It would have been cool to see Albert play CF in his early says. I wonder if he could handle it. How old was he his rookie year? 23? 24?
your right he couldn’t play center, but you shouldn’t punish him for not playing center when the rest of his numbers where as good or better in most cases. I’ll admit he’s not as complete as mike and mike plays the more physically demanding position so it’s harder to stay healthy. I fully get it dude. Pujols played everywhere his first few years if you remember, third, left, first, and was drafted as a short. I’m in no way comparing him to the complete Player that trout is. But when it comes to the stick Albert had him. Everyone’s yelling at me All because I dare to say trouts not the greatest ever. most ppl are too young to know how good big al was. That’s not a shot or a knock on anyone. He hit 130+ rbi his rookie year( still the national league record by a rookie ) while playing all over the field. Frank Thomas and Griffey were phenoms too, people thought they would be the best ever too, ( look up franks first seven )but until you play out your career you can’t say that. That’s all I’m saying fellas. best in the game right now, nobody’s going to dispute that.
He’s probably 50 already dude lol. But that’s what makes him even more impressive. Dudes well into his 40s hitting 93 rbi and .294 with runners in scoring. He’s probably Julio Franco’s brother lol
I might be older than you. My first game at the ballpark I saw Rick Reuschel strike out Hank Aaron in a pinch hitting appearance.
Trout may not be the GOAT yet, but he has the best shot of anyone of approaching that.
Go check out some team totals on Baseball Reference. Start with 48 wins and then add a team’s total WAR for both the position players and pitchers. Then check out the teams actual wins. If that’s off, it’s probably closer to the Pythagorean total. WAR definitely passes the smell test.
I agree with everything you said pretty much dude. My problem is it doesn’t factor in clutch. And it uses on base heavily, which obviously is important. I just feel like it’s flawed because if player x has more hits and less walks than player y but they both have the same on base, in my opinion player x is more impressive and war doesn’t seem to think so. The other issue is it gives the center fielders a higher score( I know it’s harder to play ) and therefore punishes players total war who do not play center. He’s not as good as Nolan on defense, Nolan gets docked because he plays in Coors and doesn’t play center so he gets docked. There’s just no way I’ll ever agree trout is almost twice as valuable as Nolan is. He’s clearly way better but not almost twice as good. Nolan has 6. Something war seasons and trout gets 10s but yet Nolan is the better defender by far at his position. Only guy fielding close or better than Nolan is Chapman at his position. I don’t think mikes top two defensive center fielders. That’s the Krux of my argument. No doubt mike has the best shot but so did Griffey and frank until they got injured and mike already has had injuries so he’s just not there yet. But yes you are correct he’s the best in the game and has the best shot. Sorry for the novel
So I took trouts first year and threw it out since he played a few games and went with first full 8 seasons for each….. stats go as follows…. Pujols has 64 more runs, 234 more hits, 97 more 2b, 39 more hr, 241 more rbi, 582 less strikeouts, .26 higher batting avg, .03 better on base( dead tie ) .04 ops ( dead tie ) .37 more slug %, 382 more total bases, and trout has 151 more steals, 98 more walks, and 9 points better on the ops +. So it’s hard for me to grasp how someone who kills him in the counting stats has a lower war( when factoring only first 8 FULL seasons ). I get it the steals mean a lot, I didn’t previously factor that in as heavily but literally almost everything else Albert puts it to him by a large margin. But when you league adjust for the ops + trout beats him, which proves my point how much better the players league average was when Albert played and everyone was loaded crushing 40 bombs every year. So I get it that it’s close, but it’s hard to look past all them numbers because ONE stat says different( and he plays center )!
I looked it up and your right it’s almost dead on but my only question is why do you say start with 48 wins? Where does the first 48 wins come from?
48 wins is about the average number of wins for a team made up of replacement players based on a winning percentage of around .300 – where the historically worst teams finish.
You have to buy into the defensive adjustment in order to be on board with WAR. A third baseman gets about the same credit as a center fielder. Maybe Pujols could have played third for his first couple of years, but he probably ends up at first soon anyway where his glove work definitely offset the defensive penalty.
A home run is 100% accurate dude, go read what you wrote. That’s wrong. War however isn’t 100% accurate, if it was there wouldn’t be several formulas for it.
I’m not saying that home runs are worthless statistics, but not every home run hitter was a great player. All the names you mentioned have incredibly high career WAR, so aren’t you just taking your argument apart by saying that these players are great regardless of WAR even though they have great WAR? It’s just mildly baffling.
It’s not baffling, your right they were good players regardless. I never said just because you can hit a home run your valuable. Never said that. But what you said was that home runs are not 100% accurate stats, and they are. You actually have to hit the ball to hit a homer. . You have to make contact and not walk to get hits. So they are 100% accurate. You are right though they do not tell the entire picture. No one stat does. My point was they don’t have to walk their way to a high on base to have a high war. All the guys I mentioned had More hits, homers and rbi. The reason mike has a high war is his on base percent(by walking not number of hits) and because he plays center. Pujols hit his way to that high on base and so did a rod. And neither of them struck out as much as mike did. That’s where their on base came from, not purely from walks. ALL are excellent players correct. It doesn’t refute my own argument, they were around before war was even a stat.
In other words the way your argument looks, is that your insinuating I’m not allowed to use a player with a high war to make my argument. And that’s not fair. I never said you can only hit home runs and rbis to be valuable, never said that.
Meant to reply to human rain delay, sorry. But my rationale stands! Lol
The Angels had been searching for a every day left fielder sine, Garrett Anderson. His last season with the Angels, was 2008. They tried Juan Rivera, Vernon Wells, Mark Trumbo, Josh Hamilton, Matt Joyce, JB Shucks, Rafial Ortega, Cameron Maybin. Other than Trumbo, none of those players gave the Angels much production. Upton had an opt out. So adding a year, to keep him, wasn’t as a big of a deal as people want to make it out to be.
Gotta sign Pujols to a new 10 year extension soon, Arte.
Lol and I thought I was trolling
How many of these players end up in the HoF?