If and when the baseball season resumes in 2020, it’s expected to do so with the oft-debated universal DH implemented. With than in mind, we’re running through each NL team’s DH options . Today, we’re looking at the innovative Milwaukee Brewers, who’ve demonstrated their willingness to get creative with personnel under manager Craig Counsell.
Counsell’s club looks pretty well-positioned to adapt to the rule change, though it seems like they won’t need to rely on just a single player to handle the DH duties; rather, they’ve got a host of capable players at their disposal, and should be able to adjust their lineup on a matchup basis.
The first name that comes to mind for Milwaukee is Ryan Braun. With the addition of Avisail Garcia, Braun has likely been pushed out of a regular role in the outfield. And with Justin Smoak on the roster, he probably won’t see too much time at first base, either—though a platoon is possible. So it make sense that Braun should get first dibs on DH at-bats in Milwaukee, and it’s a timely development for him given his fall down the defensive spectrum. He’s still a solid hitter (.849 OPS last year), but the rise of Christian Yelich and acquisition of Garcia has rendered him somewhat marginal in the Brewers’ plans.
Keston Hiura, who’s encountered concerns about his defense in his brief career, would be a fine DH on days where he needs a rest from the field. But the new rule shouldn’t impeach on his role as the everyday second baseman; despite the defensive concerns, it would probably be unwise to abandon hope for him as a passable defender so early in his career—especially if the universal DH doesn’t wind up a permanent change.
Jedd Gyorko is maybe the next-best option after Braun, though he frankly doesn’t offer much that Braun can’t do himself. Both he and Braun are righties, which isn’t a bad thing, but both perform considerably better against left-handed pitchers. Logan Morrison was brought aboard on a minor league deal, so he lurks as a possible lefty DH candidate. But the fact of the matter is that Morrison is more than two years removed from reliable production, failing to muster even a .700 OPS in either of the previous two seasons. Still, depending on the maximum roster allowance this year, Morrison might be worth rostering in a pinch.
Otherwise, Omar Narvaez is noted for his reputation as one of the stronger offensive catchers in baseball, but he lacks the defensive chops to make him a top-flight catcher. On days when Manny Piña suits up behind the dish, it might not hurt to give Narvaez, a lefty hitter, some run in the DH role. He tallied an .813 OPS last year, which is right about on par with the other Brewers we’ve mentioned, so Counsell could still enjoy Narvaez’s offensive output without sacrificing anything on the defensive end. Narvaez should get plenty of looks against right-handed pitching, which makes up for some of the aforementioned overlap between Braun’s and Gyorko’s skillsets.
In addition, the Brewers have a host of versatile infield options that can rotate in and out of the lineup. Between Gyorko, Brock Holt, Eric Sogard, and Luis Urias, the Brewers accumulated a number of utility-type players in the winter. Those acquisitions might seem a bit redundant, but they should combine to offer much-appreciated versatility. In a vacuum, none of those names are particularly ideal candidates to fill the DH role, but their availability will allow Counsell to optimize his defensive alignment while maintaining his offensive firepower. Neither Gyorko nor Sogard owns a particularly robust defensive track record, so look for them to assume DH duties as needed.
All things considered, the Brewers look to be in good shape should MLB move forward with the universal DH, and they could get creative with the way they deploy their catchers and infielders. Ryan Braun will get his fair share of at-bats as probably the best bench bat on the roster, but others like Jedd Gyorko, Eric Sogard, Omar Narvaez, and even Keston Hiura could get a crack. If anyone falters, the Brewers will have a wealth of alternatives to whom they can turn.
This post is the latest in an ongoing series on MLBTR in which we examine every National League team’s designated hitter options. Previously, we looked at the Cardinals, Reds, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Nationals, and Braves.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
This headline could go for any other team as well.
Iknowmorebaseball
Yup, especially funny here on this article is the fact that they don’t realize that Ryan Braun sucks
Javia
At one time Ryan Braun was in the middle of the discussion for the best player in baseball. He is still a quality hitter. He does not suck.
DarkSide830
still a quality PED user
ohyeadam
Braun really needs to give his MVP to Matt Kemp. kemp had a monster season that year and earned the award.
scottn59c
“PEDs Could Revitalize Former NL MVP”
Strike Four
Yeah, like he is still using. Come on, get over these dumb anti-player sentiments. They add nothing to any argument.
lambeau gang
Yeah, Braun’s clutch GS in St. Louis to push them into the postseason really sucked.
Also, I found the salty Cubs fan…
DarkSide830
can we stop with this? the point of the series is to highlight teams better equipped then others for the DH, as some clearly are.
mack22 2
Who died and made you the boss?
oldmansteve
Fans the flames, then tries to call for peace. Can’t play both sides man.
Strike Four
Can you stop acting like you run this site first? LOL
Spike Hyzer
Not the teams in the bottom half of the NL for hitting.
At least half the teams have below average hitting all around and no players of nearly Braun’s caliber to plug into the DH and suddenly make them a much better hitting team. At best, the bottom teams can hope to break even with the other DHs, but even that is highly unlikely.
smrtbusnisman04a
New topic: Pittsburgh Pirates wouldn’t be helped by universal DH because their hitters suck!! They might still use pitchers lol
Ashtem
Josh ring a Bell
Binnington50
Obviously his point is that the Pirates don’t have much hitting beyond the starting eight, and probably even including some of the starting eight. Josh Bell is in the starting eight. Shame you weren’t able to read between the lines.
smrtbusnisman04a
Bennington 50 is on the nose. Outside of Josh Bell and a few others, the Pirates position players and depth is paper thin
Gwynning's Anal Lover
Paper thin is generous.
Spike Hyzer
I could see the Crew using the DH for Arcia when Woodruff is on the mound.
davidk1979
Mets are the best positioned team in the nl for the dh imo
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Mets are irrelevant. They weren’t better than the Braves and Nats with Syndergaard, and now don’t even have him.
Royalsfan12
Jacob deGrom has entered the chat
Javia
Jacob DeGrom has been the best pitcher in baseball for several years now. He has never been to a WS because he lacks the support around him. That hasn’t changed. In fact, it has gotten worse with Syndergaard down.
Eatdust666
False, he made an appearance in the 2015 World Series, Game 2, to be exact, it didn’t go well, despite starting it off with 4 scoreless innings, he then gave up 4 runs in the 5th inning.
trendysayings
D O M I N I C . S M I T H .
Royalsfan12
I hate to post another negative comment, but BOO!!!!
Ryan Braun sucks!
brewcrewenthusiast
not nearly as bad as the royals. get back in your cellar
mack22 2
As a Dodger fan I can say that s.o.b. Destroyed Matt Kemp chances for a HOF. Braun should go to jail
wild bill tetley
Kemp could have two MVPs and he’d still not be Hall of Fame worthy. Ask Dale Murphy.
scottn59c
Not HOF worthy, yes, but you would concede that Braun screwed him out of an MVP, wouldn’t you?
Iknowmorebaseball
Yeah I agree, the Brewers will benefit for sure from the DH. I see them now taking 4th place in the central
WildRemote
you think they’ll benefit from the DH and drop 2 spots in the central? How’s that work?
Iknowmorebaseball
The other central teams got stronger DH guys. Reds, Cardinals and cubs got stronger than the Brewers in the DH department my friend.
bdpecore
How do you figure the Cubs got better overall? Yes they can finally keep Kyle Schwarber in the line up without having to watch his horrid play in LF but who have they added to their overall roster to make you believe they will play better than last season, Jeremy Jeffress?
Spike Hyzer
Not so much stronger that they would cause the Crew to drop 2 spots.
None of those teams has a DH that will even mean 3 more wins for them than the Crew can attain with their DHs.
hOsEbEeLiOn
Ryon Healy was signed by the Brewers. Shouldn’t be also ba candidate for DH duties?
Spike Hyzer
Yes. And he is swinging the bat and seems recovered enough from hip surgery that if he returned to his 2016 (?) form, he’ll be the biggest steal of FA.
I”m really rooting for him and Logan Morrison and most have forgotten about them.
I feel like both will be better than Smoak and Gyorko.
Tom84
The Brewers are good.
Binnington50
Cardinals fan here. Their lineup is scary. Have they done anything to shore up their pitching this year?
Tom84
Lol idk bro im a Rangers fan, but i know they traded away Davies who was a big part of the rotation.
g4
Brewers are good, pitching still a concern. DH will help them I think — not as much as Reds, Dodgers, Braves, but more than Mets, Cubs, Cards, Phils, Padres.
Same boat as Dbacks, Nats
Spike Hyzer
Davies was not that good and they got a lefty version of him who is probably a little better (profiles better for the park).
Woodruff was better than the raw numbers suggest and looks like a top 10 pitcher in baseball. Houser was on a similar development arc. Lauer a decent #3.
If Lindblom and Anderson faltered, and I expect Anderson to be a bum, then Peralta and Burnes would finally have a chance to deliver on some of the best stuff in baseball.
I honestly think they have the makings of a young staff of the caliber of the Orioles in the 70s.
It’s the hitting that I think will suck right now. It won’t be as bad as the OOTP simulation on Baseball Reference, but it won’t be great from some players they have doing well (Holt, Gyorko, Smoak, and Garcia and Narvaez have not done it long term and are hard to project as full time starters for the first time really for either). Hiura and Cain would not be hitting a combined .200 at this point and losing ABs.
I love the pitching so much that I bet my roomie that the Crew’s top 5 in innings is the best in all of baseball.
I have no confidence in their ability to score, but they could pitch well enough to be a Yelich or Hiura homer (or Braun!) away from a win most nights.
They didn’t have money this year for off season moves like the previous year, but the staff is starting to mature into one of the best in baseball.
Braun is off the books next year and Cain 2 years after that. You’ll see big off season FA moves in those years and the usual Stearns’ approach in the other off seasons (sign cheap bounce back candidates and see who sticks).
Javia
I think you may be jumping the gun just a bit. Woodruff and Houser are both good, but neither is top 10 in baseball. Probably not top 20 either. I mean, Houser has a total of 127 innings in mlb. And expecting Lauer to be a quality #3 is quite a stretch considering that he was the Padres #4 or #5. I do admire your optimism though.
Spike Hyzer
In the 6 most important categories of peripheral pitching stats, Woodruff rated TOP 3 in baseball in ALL 6 categories. He was top 2 in lowest barrel rates and hard hit balls and his K rate was the best among starters last year.
He throws 98 and has nasty stuff. He’s top 3 against righties.
His only flaw is that he’s EXACTLY league average against lefties (but, his change is improving).
I fully expect him to be the Cy Young winner this year.
What I don’t understand is how the OOTP simulation has Hiura hitting .190 right now.
He actually rated second to Bryce Harper in most peripherals (he had the best barrel and hard hit rates). I fully expect him to win the batting title this year and maybe for years to come (with 35 HRs a year at 2B).
At the end of the year, over his last 8 starts, Houser looked every bit as good as Woodruff last year.
Honestly, if they aren’t both top 10 among starters this year, it would be a huge disappointment.
There’s a reason Stearns didn’t go big in FA (and it’s the same reason Gutenkunst didn’t draft a WR, which I too had as about their 5th most important need, because they lost due to inability to stop the run, not due to any lack in the passing game).
Lauer is improving.. I feel Lindblom will be the 5. Anderson is trash and Burnes or Peralta will take that spot and be as good or better than Woody or Houser (BOTH have shown it with occasional dominant starting performances and we’re all just waiting for the consistency light to click on).
This staff will be as good or better than the 70s Orioles and very soon. They didn’t build that pitching lab for nothing.
bdpecore
I think this Brewers rotation offers more upside than the previous two but still has just as many question marks going into the season. Guys like Houser, Lindblom, B. Anderson, Peralta and Burnes could be solid contributors or non-existent depending on how things pan out.
Spike Hyzer
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Chris Koch
Hi Binnington50. They are taking a leap of faith on Josh Lindblom. Adrian Houser to continue a learning curve sorta in the way Brandon Woodruff had. They bought 1 year of Brett Anderson who does well in the years he isn’t injured. The trade that sent Davies away brought back Eric Lauer who has basically the same repertoire as Davies with a higher velocity, cheaper longer control. He just must never play in Colorado. One of those falters they still have a useful Freddy Peralta who seemed to be showing off an explosive new pitch in Spring Training to assert himself in to the starting rotation. further down the line if Corbin Burnes who has elite spin rates but a HR problem. 7-0 from bullpen in 2018 and a completely lost season in 2019. Much like MiLB pitcher of the year Zach Brown. Ethan Small was a 1st round selection in 2019. in a shortened season he could vault in to a few starts if all these options aren’t working. Brewers as an organization are far more healthy in pitchers than they likely ever have been. It’s the position players in their minors aside from Hiura who’ve been complete busts. Which sorta explains the offseason on a platoon hitting lineup. Let Counsell use his lineup managing skills to wreak havoc on that day’s opposing starting pitcher. The DH kinda takes away this advantage on platoon hitting when the NL would throw a relief pitcher to combat it and Counsell would have immediately pinch hit from the other side, keeping the platoon advantage. One the 3batter minimum couldn’t avoid. Such a sad existence in WI as we had the Bucks and this Brewers season brewing up. Only thing I can get happy on is Nascar and Kyle Larson using the N-word to bring back WI’s own Matt Kenseth.out of retirement. NVM GB drafting Jordan Love and a bunch of reaches to have the worst draft.
Spike Hyzer
Good comments!
Brown and Small are both trash and will never even be league average MLB pitchers. Seen them both in the minors and they both have to struggle to get lower level players out. They stand no chance in the bigs.
I am equally sad about the Bucks title chances slipping away and hope they can restart the season (and it was almost done, so why bother with the rest of the actual season; maybe just have a week long play in tournament for every team that was in 7-10th place in each conference and start the playoffs).
NASCAR is too idiotic to have any interest in.
The Packers draft will surprise everyone. It will go down as the best draft from 2015-20. They had absolutely no need for WRs, as ESB lost a year in which he would have made a huge leap, and Funchess is at least as good as Lazzard (who is very good indeed). They had plenty of depth and competition at that position and sorely needed help in other places first (stopping the run).. And Kirksey is better than that bum Martinez. DL could have used more help though.
wild bill tetley
But not great.
Spike Hyzer
Though probably the surprise team in all of baseball for the 3rd consecutive year.
People shouldn’t forget that they have by far the best GM in baseball, now have the best sports medicine approach and facilities for development, and have the best field manager in all of baseball.
They’re very, very good, with probably the sneaky best starting staff in the league–Woodruff and Houser should both break out to be top 10 pitchers in baseball this year–and so much depth that the other 3 starters could be the best of the bottom of the rotations in all of baseball. The pen scares me a little right now, but Stearns usually cuts bait quickly and finds better replacements.
The hitting is what I think won’t be good to start–but not as bad as simulations–but the Stearns method seems to work.
pinkerton
Braun is a fool
Astrosaregarbageandsoistheentirecityoghouston
Braun is a filthy filthy cheater. Just like all of the astros.
Brixton
Every team has or had cheaters
DarkSide830
so its not fine to despise the guy? he hits 3 HRs every time he comes to Philly and it annoys the heck out of me.
Spike Hyzer
Actually, as a biologist, I would say it’s moronic to despise him.
The fact of the matter is that pro sports are devastating to the human body.
Steroids should be legal in ALL sports as a means to treat and help repair muscle tissue (but not for growth; in fact, ALL of the testing should be done in the off season and spring training to prevent that).
Medically necessary and legal use of proper drugs should absolutely be legal in all sports.
If I tore a muscle tomorrow, the Doc might prescribe a corticosteroid.
And the Onion wasn’t too far off in its parody article that said Craig Counsell was the best player of his era because he was the only player not on roids.
Appalachian_Outlaw
The Padres finished in last place from ’69-’83, have only ever won 5 division crowns, and two NL pennants. Their last was 20+ years ago. If they’re cheating clearly they’re doing it wrong.
scottn59c
hahaha! Maybe everyone is just cheating more effectively.
Strike Four
Ken Caminiti was on a bunch of ped lists and he played for 2 Padres playoffs teams.
Spike Hyzer
Well, if you’re not good at baseball you’re probably not good at cheating.
I knew a bad card player who was even a worse cheater (got caught every time).
It just makes sense.
mack22 2
Is this how you justify it? “All teams do it”? And of course you have proof of that? Just like Adam Shift right?
Strike Four
The proof is literally all 30 teams having had at least 1 PED suspension.
mack22 2
Bonds too
Phiilies2020
I can see a 50/50 split at DH between Braun and Smoak with Braun playing mostly against lefties and an occasional start in LF as well. Wonder if he can pinch hit, I’d imagine he hasnt done much of it in his career.
Strike Four
Hey look everyone, a post that actually discusses the topic that you all could have made, instead of being hate-filled lunatics spewing worthless bile….
Spike Hyzer
Actually, Braun had his highest game total since 2016 last year with 135 games listed. BUT….
He only started something like 105 of those and the other 30 were PH appearances (several coming off injury, but not all of them, and he performed better as a PH last year than he did as a starter by far, since it was mostly against lefties and he mashed at above his career averages against lefties in those ABs).
GCarbs
I think instead of coming up with these boring headlines for each NL team, you should’ve just done a series like “Brewers options at DH” etc. These headlines are all dumb because they could be any team.
Phiilies2020
Yea kinda agree
richard dangler
Literally no one wants to see a pitcher hit. This is long over due.
DarkSide830
i do
pinstripes17
more strategy goes into managing in the AL though, since you have to pay closer attention to your pitcher and how he is doing because you will never remove him to pinch hit for him.
jekporkins
More strategy goes into managing the AL than the NL?
BWAHWHAHHAAA….. ah, he… ha…. oh…. man, I needed that….
brewcrewenthusiast
that is the dumbest thing I’ve read on this site. you are literally the only person in the world with that opinion
Swilley2
I wanna watch baseball with strategy
Strike Four
baseball isnt a strategic game – you want to watched a modified game and youre offended by another modification. what an ice cold take.
Spike Hyzer
You are correct. Wonks who like looking at numbers after the game is over have fooled themselves for a century into thinking that baseball has a strategy. As someone who was a 4 year letter winner in HS, I can assure you that the game is played the same way at every level and has NO strategy to speak of.
The ONLY sport left with any strategy is football. Even basketball–though it is still improvisational and free flowing as jazz–has always been about either beating the other team down the courts for a quick and easy shot OR, as is the case today, for a quick 3 pointer (and even the way offenses are structured now, it’s just improv until someone gets a drive or 3 attempt and then try to get the much more available offensive rebs on missed 3s).
Baseball could be managed by the players and it would be done better.
In fact, as I believe you noted before about some lunatic who hates the change to the DH (loved that line about helmets), the game could be dramatically improved to be better in the modern age.
Let’s get the games down to 2 hours, like a nice college hoops game.
It’s super easy. It will also protect the arms of pitchers.
Let’s go to 2 strikes for an out and 3 for a balls for a walk. Once you’ve fouled off 2 pitches the next one is the final strike and you’re out (I hate seeing 12 pitch at bats as much as I hate seeing a pitcher hit). Robo umps for sure would speed up the game (the Brewers have led the league for 3 straight years in bad balls and strikes calls, which shows how much the heads of MLB hate Stearns for thwarting old school baseball strategy). I can’t even count how many times both Woodruff and Houser struck out a batter on 3 consecutive pitches only to see 1 or 2 of them called balls, which forced them into 6 or 8 pitch ABs.
See? And we wouldn’t even have to go down to 7 inning games.
The modern age has changed our brains such that baseball is slow and boring compared to other sports. It’s not more noble because it’s non contact. It’s not really a strategic game.
Why not make it fit the modern age?
mack22 2
Right. Exactly right. This a completely different game
Spike Hyzer
No, it’s really not. You’re an idiot.
Strike Four
richard dangler with the facts
Chisox378
This may be one cham3ge I am ok with.
astros_fan_84
I think Universal DH will be permanent, especially when half the NL fans decide it’s a good idea.
Swilley2
Lame. When will the American League realize the DH is bush league?
mack22 2
Not bush league maybe but certainly not Baseball
astros_fan_84
I don’t understand the purist argument. I prefer for aging sluggers to be able to extend their careers. I also like it that my pitchers are less likely to get hurt.
Strike Four
Also many pitchers bodies usually aren’t adherent to hitting elite level, MLB-quality, best in the world pitching. So many pitchers are all leg, smaller upper bodies. There’s such a small amount of variable that exists that makes bad hitters great ones, so you need the right body type to begin with, and many do not have it. Also, hitting and pitching don’t use the same muscle groups. Only true-athlete types like Ohtani and McKay can do both at an elite level.
Replacing .100 OPS hitters with .750+ OPS hitters will only make NL baseball more watchable. Less annoying manager delays for more pitching changes too. The DH has always been the answer, the NL should have changed in like 1980, not 2020. Oh well, whiners got to beat a dead horse for 40 years, so impressive how much power a certain group of people has over everything, huh 🙂
pinstripes17
the argument for pitchers still hitting is the dumbest thing ever in baseball. It’s 2020, not 1920.
jekporkins
That’s the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard. Just because something is changed doesn’t mean it was changed for the better.
Strike Four
Are you arguing that what has happened in the American League since 1973 has not actually counted?
astros_fan_84
I love how NL enthusiasts pretend the game hasn’t changed. I guess we should go back to four man rotations, players playing 162 games, and bigger ballparks too.
It’s weird how they cling to this one thing and pretend that changing it will ruin the game.
It’s honestly about health. Hitters get to rest and still hit. Pitchers don’t expose themselves to unneeded injury. In an attrition sport like baseball, it’s a massive advantage for AL clubs.
Spike Hyzer
It’s WAY for the better.
I was not a fan of the Crew moving to the NL solely because they lack the DH.
I hate seeing pitchers hit and I hate it more when they get injured due to hitting (if Jimmy Nelson hadn’t gotten hurt, the Crew could have 3 of the top 10 pitchers in baseball this year).
Rules change for a reason. Baseball has lost a lot of fans (just saw a baseball episode of Deep Space Nine in which the game was gone and that the last WS was attended by only 300 fans). The game has become so tedious and boring–a perfect fit for the 1900s, when it was actually hard to fill all of one’s free time–that I’d rather pore over stats from a game for an hour than actually watch an hour of baseball.
Robo umps is the first change I’d make (since the Crew have led the league 3 years in a row in ‘bad’ calls by the home plate ump). Then I’d probably go to 3 balls for a walk and 2 strikes for an out. I’d also allow a player only 2 foul balls per at bat (and the only case in which a 3rd strike is required would be if the first 2 strikes were fouls).
That should get games down to a tidy and more marketable 2 hours.
astros_fan_84
I wouldn’t change balls or strikes. But I agree on the problems. I only watch baseball on mlb.tv on delay. I buzz through the game in an hour or so and just want the hitters.
Personally, I would like to see 7 inning games with a runner starting on 2nd base every inning. I’m not saying that would work, but I would like to see it tried.
Spike Hyzer
And I’d hate that. You have to earn your bases.
On that topic and the innings I will remain a purist, but something needs to be done to get EVERY game under 2:15.
As much as I hate a tie, I think extra innings should be abolished.
There has to be a better way of determining a winner than causing serious damage to the players in super lengthy games (which also hurts a team’s momentum and ability to win for several days after the long game).
Unless it’s golf, I prefer a team game to have a clock.
astros_fan_84
I agree about extra innings. Maybe 10 or 11 innings, but no more. It’s not as if fans even want to watch that. If fans know the game will absolutely end in an inning or two, they will stay.
Also, I am completely fine with 7 inning games. I also miss double headers. I think they should have monthly double headers on Saturdays.
Spike Hyzer
I like double headers as well.
It’s probably the only time I’d accept a 7 inning game.
And I like your compromise that games would be a tie after 11 innings are complete. Saves all the stress on bullpens (and some of the worst Brewer games in recent memory have come after those marathon games until 3 a.m.; teams cannot function if the long game is the 2nd game of the series and the travel day game is usually in the early afternoon).
The game has some minor problems they don’t even recognize (mostly relating to marketing and watchability) but none that can’t be fixed easily.
30 Parks
Braun’s excuse upon being busted for PEDs was particularly despicable – guy has no character. Send that MVP over to Kemp’s house, too. I think Braun knows at least one delivery driver.
JayRyder
And Why Would We Care. About revitalizing Ryan Braun ?
brucenewton
I believe Braun said 2020 will be his last. Probable he’s played his last game.
mack22 2
Not the same game, different version of baseball.
Swilley2
Anyone else get the feeling mlbtraderumors has some sort of partnership with mlb to promote the universal DH? Because I do
mack22 2
This and suppression of alternative ideas, right DARKSIDE. This guy had my post removed because we disagreed on the lockdown
homerheins
Ryan Braun will forever be known for that press conference in 2012 and his career never being the same without steroids. There’s being sorry for what you did and then there is getting caught, looking like a fool, ruining a person’s career, and then being sorry you got caught.
Tainted NL MVP
lebowskiachiever
Spot on. I’ve always thought what Braun did was the most despicable thing I’d seen in sports (well, until the Astros) – not just cheating and lying about it, but blaming an innocent man and knowingly allowing him to have his livelihood taken away from him. That 2012 interview in which he stands there during spring training and so self-righteously lies to everyone is absolute peak creepy, amoral public figure. It’s straight out disgusting.
The trouble is, news moves fast these days and everyone needs to “move on” once the new cycle has spun for a few days or weeks at the most. That’s why, whenever names like Braun or Altuve, Bregman, et al, come up it is actually a really important public function to shame them and remind them and the world that we HAVEN’T moved on and never should. Cheating and lying have consequences – good and bad. You took the good, the MVP and WS rings. Now take the bad…forever.
mack22 2
As a Dodger fan I think Braun should go to jail for the rest of his life
scottn59c
Well, you can at least take some cold comfort (reading through this post) and seeing that he definitely received a sentence in the court of public opinion.
Spike Hyzer
If you thought that was despicable, you must never have heard of Ty Cobb and the vast majority of players prior to 1950.
ohyeadam
Lots of catchers and shortstops don’t hit well either. MLB should consider using a DH for those spots too and maybe even a full lineup of DHs.
mack22 2
Exactly right. This isn’t Baseball
Strike Four
Imagine thinking the AL and literally every other professional league in the world “Isn’t Baseball”. Grow up you crybaby. The DH has been around for 50 damn years and you have cried about it the entire time, while all us non-gatekeepers have gotten to enjoy Molitor, Edgar and Papi.
Stop talking about baseball if you hate it so much. Seriously. Go. No one will miss your negative takes.
Spike Hyzer
I have thought of ONE good compromise that might satisfy these gatekeepers:
Force the DH to hit 9th.
That way you can’t stack the line up with a power hitter in the 4 or 5 hole who is the DH.
If you’re replacing your worst hitter in the line up with the DH, you should have to place him in that position in the line up. The game speeds up and scoring increases only slightly (since that spot will not result in as many HRs and Doubles with multiple men on base). Power hitters will also fail a lot in the 9th spot at contact and not get on base to start rallies with the top of the line up. It will be more competitive since they may chip away at leads and get some solo shots, but it won’t get as crazy as if it would by putting them at clean up.
hammer_time24
Come on. SS is actually one of the deeper offensive positions in baseball at the moment.
Spike Hyzer
Or, we could force teams to put the DH in the 9th spot no matter what.
He is replacing your worst hitter and should thus be in the worst spot in the line up, one that won’t maximize his power by having multiple men on base often (I say this mostly because I don’t want to see a big rise in scoring; in fact, I’d like to see pitching become dominant again and scoring to go down in games that end in 2 hours).
ANY rule changes–except for putting men on base to start innings or shortening games to under 9 innings–is acceptable.
Ban extra innings and figure out a better way to determine the outcome (and why is a column of ties so bad?).
Except in the playoffs obviously.
Skeptical
Why only one DH? Why not two or three? Why not a DH for that weak hitting defensive catcher who can’t outrun a glacier? Or a DH for that slick fielding short stop who lacks power and eyes the Mendoza line? Heck, if you want more offense, why not follow football and have two different squads, one for defense and one for offense?
Baseball used to be about the complete player, players with strengths and weaknesses and how you dealt with those. The DH is about strengths, about specialization. It ignores the complexity of the human condition. I agree with former major leaguer Bob Walk, “Ban the DH.”
Strike Four
You talk real big here but are totally okay with pitchers coming in for 1 inning. Hypocrite.
The DH is literally 47 years old. Its almost half a century old and you STILL have not gotten over it. Grow up. It has made AL baseball factually-better than NL baseball. There are less time outs for pitching changes, and less rally-killing double plays from bad baserunning instructions. NL games are unwatchable due to an unprofessional hitter in the lineup. AL games run smoother, are more fun to watch and the NL is at least 45 years too late on this.
In fact, if this really does get rid of people like you, the better!
Appalachian_Outlaw
Ryan Braun is a garbage human being. I hope he hits .127, doesn’t hit a HR, and drives in as few runs as possible. I want to see his career end in an embarrassing fashion.
Strike Four
Way to out yourself as an absolute lunatic.
Provide reasoning or something, jeez!!
George Ruth
There should be absolutely NO Dumb Hitter (DH) in the National League under NO Circumstances & Abner Doubleday is rolling in his grave at the destruction of his game
Strike Four
lmao omg you HAVE to be like 70 years old – dumb hitter? HAHAA you dont even have any reason to hate anymore you are just doing to literally any tiny change like not being forced to watch a non-professional hitter hit in a professional league.
Abner Doubleday? What a joke. Do you hate helmets too???
josuph
The DH argument (pro or con) makes no sense to me. It is couched in the absurdity that having a pitcher hit is both a terrible thing to watch and dangerous for the pitcher. Sports are dangerous for all participants. Suck it up, buttercup. Further, if those arguments mattered, then the same logic would/could apply to any position that generates below average (or way below average) offense. Catchers? Woof. DH #2. But why stop there? Increase the roster size and add DHs for shortstops and centerfielders. Or make it more player specific. Bring Billy Hamilton back and put him in the field, but let someone else hit for him, because watching him hit is… terrible. Hell, while we’re improving the game… I mean, while ‘the game is evolving’, why not have a substitute do everything that a particular player can’t do? Righty pitcher bad against lefties? Let’s have a designated pitcher! From there, there’s no end to the idiocy.
Did you know that the PGA sends officials around to every golf course prior to a tournament to guarantee that it is ‘playable’ for the pros on TV? By ‘playable’, they mean easy, because they are in the ‘entertainment business’. Those officials instruct the course owners to make ‘playability’ changes, or they’ll take their clubs and go elsewhere. MLB should just make the game ‘playable’ for everyone. How entertaining is that?
Failure is the defining feature of baseball, and that is the most fascinating thing about it. The game itself is measured by 27 outs, 27 failures to get on base. Removing the failures of pitchers to hit is an attempt to sanitize that essential aspect of the game in the name of ‘entertainment.’ The saddest part is that people buy into it. They fail to understand the game.
And yet, changing the game in this way has little to no effect on the outcome. There are still 27 outs needed to end the game. And curiously, despite the DH, there is little to no difference in the average PA per game between the two leagues. The AL and NL send the same number of batters to the plate, even though the AL pitchers aren’t hitting. But the AL scores so many more runs!? you say? Yes, it seems that way. but AL ballparks are, in general, built to support more offense, which accounts for much more of the offensive difference, not the competence of the DH.
Change is ‘whatever.’ Neither good nor bad. Just make sure that you understand what you are, or are not, in favor of. It’s not about tradition or evolution. The DH is a misunderstood money grab and the owners are playing everyone.
MannyPineappleExpress9
I didn’t realize Ryan Braun personally attacked so many commentors on here. Or slept with your mothers or whatever
Yeah, it was a disgrace what happened/how he attempted to weasel out of any punishment.
Meanwhile some of you same people defend Bonds because his cheating was exposed “illegally” Sosa and McGuire because their single season HR competition excited you, and the likes of Canseco because he admitted to it years after he was no longer relevant. Were any of them ever even suspended?
You also seem to forget that it was 1 failed test. I’m not privy to the inner workings of MLB banned substance testing, but I’m pretty sure he’s been tested pretty regularly ever since.
Oh, and just so no one accuses me of defending him because I’m a homer…paul Molitor was a known coke fiend in the 80s. A lot of people have him on a pedestal as the best or 2nd best Brewer ever (after Robin Yount) and never mention that. I don’t particularly care for Braun as a person, but as a baseball player, there are plenty who did worse, got away with it and are beloved by the masses.
And who’s to say Matt Kemp wasn’t cheating somehow? His career kinda went south quickly too, didn’t it? But hey, if it’ll get people to stfu, I wish the MVP voters would change history and give Kemp the dang award. Its not like they selected Braun after news of the failed test broke or anything. Where’s the hate for them?
Spike Hyzer
Kemp simply didn’t get caught.
He was trash after that year and wasn’t that great prior.
One good year.
TRK1968
A couple observations from a life-long Brew Crew fan.
1. Braun… was a great player without PEDs, and it was pretty obvious he wasn’t using them for more pop… His body was staring to break down and he was using them to heal faster. That said, he cheated, and in retrospect, didn’t deserve that MVP. The worst thing about it though was his lying about it and accusing lab personnel of tampering with his sample. That was absolutely repugnant and shameful. I have forgiven him (what do you expect, he’s a career Brewer and top 5 or 6 al-time).
2. DH… Personally, I’m against it. I love the strategy in the NL… I love the double switch, and I LOVE pitchers who can mash. That said, this rule would have saved Jimmy Nelson’s career.
Spike Hyzer
That’s not strategy. The double switch is barely a tactic.
Baseball is NOT a game of strategy (nor much of a game of tactics).
This is the greatest myth in sports history.
Half of the best managers in baseball history were in their 60s and 70s and slept through 3/4s of every game.
eddiemathews
Braun is more likely to aggravate his chronic injuries (thumb and back) hitting than he is in the field. I suspect he’ll play about as many games (proportionately) this season (if there is one) as he has the past few years. But as the article states, there are plenty of other options. What y’all don’t realize is that Craigtember will be even more important this year than the past two!
Spike Hyzer
Sure, but he didn’t have any thumb issues last year and every DL trip or day off was back related.
It should make him even better to PH or DH most of the time. I’d love to see him DH 100 times, maybe spell guys at other positions in 25 games, and PH another 40 times.
eddiemathews
I could be wrong, but I thought he had more cryotherapy shots last year. But when you get old all of the seasons run together. This season, probably not so much.
Spike Hyzer
Those are really minor treatments. A guy can play a day or two later.
You can only have a max of 3 per season, and I’m pretty sure he had one before the season began but there were no reports of any others during the year.
He didn’t have long DL stints. In fact, I think they left him on the roster most of the time last year because he was day to day with the back stuff.