Wilmer Flores cried. It was the eighth inning, and the Mets were trailing the Padres by five runs. The non-waiver trade deadline was 36 hours away, and the only organization he’d ever known had agreed to trade him and teammate Zack Wheeler to the Brewers in exchange for two-time All-Star Carlos Gomez. The 23-year-old Flores learned of the reported agreement between innings … but he was left in the game to hit in the seventh inning … and to return to the field to play second base in the top half of the eighth.
In a whirlwind span of 15 to 30 minutes, Flores went from being traded to staying put among friends and teammates; the Mets had backed out of the reportedly agreed-upon trade once talks progressed to medical reviews. Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported that an issue with Gomez’s hip and perhaps some hesitance over Wheeler, who was on the mend from Tommy John surgery at the time, had torpedoed the deal.
Two nights later, with the deadline behind him, Flores pumped his fist as he rounded first base and thumped the Mets logo across his chest as he approached home plate after hitting one of the most emotional walk-off home runs in recent memory. It was the last standing ovation in a day that saw Mets fans rise to their feet to embrace Flores on multiple other occasions. Flores went on to have a fine Mets career, calling Citi Field home up through the 2018 season. He’ll always hold a special place in the hearts of most Mets fans.
The memory of that unusual and emotional scene, however, is only the surface of a much more layered “what if” scenario. If the Mets had gone through with that trade, the ripple effects would’ve radically altered the future of several teams and — in a more roundabout way — perhaps the very fabric of the game.
How so? Let’s examine:
The Mets
Imagine a world where the Mets weren’t issuing statements to the press about their highest-paid position player being injured in a freak wild boar accident. If the Mets had gone through with the Brewers trade, it’s quite possible that Yoenis Cespedes never would’ve played a game for them. The deal bringing Cespedes to Queens was a buzzer-beater just seconds before the deadline — not 48 hours after Flores’ outpouring forever endeared him to the Mets’ fanbase.
Cespedes was an absolute juggernaut for the Amazins down the stretch, fueling their torrid finish to the season with an outstanding .287/.337/.604 with 17 home runs in just 57 regular-season games. Mets fans clamored for the then-Sandy-Alderson-led front office to re-sign the slugger. While he initially looked to be outside their price range, Cespedes didn’t see his market develop the way he’d hoped and ultimately opted for a compromise deal that promised him $75MM over three years but came with opt-outs after years one and two. Following a terrific 2016 season, Cespedes indeed opted out, and the two sides brokered a more concrete four-year, $110MM pact covering the 2017-20 seasons.
But what if the club had acquired Gomez on July 30? Curtis Granderson was productive in right field. Juan Lagares was a world-beating defensive center fielder even if his bat was characteristically flimsy. Michael Cuddyer was still on the roster, and a top prospect named Michael Conforto had made his MLB debut just days earlier, on July 24. With Gomez added to that bunch, would the Mets have gone through with Cespedes trade? You can argue there was still room — put Gomez in center, Cespedes in left and use Lagares off the bench — but the urgency obviously would’ve been lessened and the Mets surely would’ve been more protective of their prospect assets. And without that magical stretch run erased from history and Gomez signed through 2016, the Mets’ motivation to sign Cespedes would’ve likely been wiped out.
Furthermore, with Cespedes then sure to have been traded elsewhere, might the pitcher they traded to Detroit have instead won a Rookie of the Year Award in New York? It’s impossible to say, but dropping Michael Fulmer into the mix of quality Mets arms in place of Wheeler would’ve maintained their enviable stash of arms for a longer time. Fulmer, Jacob deGrom, Matt Harvey (prior to his regression), Noah Syndergaard and Steven Matz is clearly a talented enough group on which to build a contending staff. And the “what ifs” only continue if you stop to wonder what precise course Fulmer’s career would’ve taken a different setting.
The Tigers
Speaking of Fulmer, well, Tigers fans wouldn’t be left to wonder whether the club should’ve traded him prior to all of his injury troubles. Fulmer had a masterful rookie season but has since undergone an ulnar nerve transposition procedure, Tommy John surgery and knee surgery. They could’ve pulled the trigger on a trade for him early in his big league tenure, but doing so would’ve meant trading four-plus years of control over the right-hander. Tigers fans can voice frustration with the benefit of hindsight, but trades of quality, established starters with that much club control remaining are of the utmost rarity.
It’s likely that Cespedes would’ve been moved elsewhere. The Astros, Orioles, Giants and Pirates were among the teams on the hunt for outfield upgrades that trade deadline, and then-Detroit GM Dave Dombrowski was committed to a rare sell-off, evidenced not only by the Cespedes swap but the David Price blockbuster with the Blue Jays. If you want to get truly hypothetical, though, let’s say no Cespedes trade materializes. …Would late owner Mike Ilitch still have moved on from Dombrowski shortly after the trade deadline? Would Dombrowski ever have ended up in Boston?
The Brewers
Sayonara, Josh Hader. In this hypothetical world, you were never a Brewer, because Gomez was traded for Wheeler and Flores. Corey Knebel and Jeremy Jeffress surely could’ve formed a potent back-of-the-pen duo while their peaks overlapped, but the three-headed monster that propelled the team to the 2018 NLCS would never have come to be. Hader would’ve been dominating in Houston or elsewhere, depending on whether the Astros traded him. Could a Wheeler-fronted rotation have made up for his absence?
The ripple effect doesn’t stop there. Also coming to Milwaukee in the Astros swap that did happen were Brett Phillips, Domingo Santana and Adrian Houser. Phillips was flipped for Mike Moustakas in 2018, so without his presence in Milwaukee, who knows whether Moose would’ve been acquired via trade or subsequently re-signed in the winter? Santana’s 30-dinger season in 2017 doesn’t happen, nor do the Brewers eventually trade him for Ben Gamel. Houser, meanwhile, doesn’t show promise of a late-blooming breakout with the ’19 Brewers, for whom he turned in 111 1/3 innings of 3.72 ERA/3.88 FIP ball with 9.5 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 53.4% grounder rate. The Brewers’ 2020 rotation is short another arm in that instance, as Wheeler still would’ve been a free agent, barring an extension.
Of course, the Brew Crew would’ve enjoyed Wheeler’s renaissance since he reemerged from arm troubles. And that brings us to…
The Astros
The craziest part of this entire butterfly effect isn’t that Josh Hader might’ve been closing out games for Houston. In fact, it doesn’t involve Hader or Gomez at all. It’s that the other player traded to the Astros alongside Gomez in exchange for Hader, Phillips, Santana and Houser was none other than right-hander Mike Fiers. Fiers joined the Houston rotation, promptly threw a no-hitter in his fourth outing, made 67 starts for the ’Stros over the next two and a half seasons … and ultimately proved to be the whistleblower who outed a sign-stealing scandal that led to the firing of manager A.J. Hinch and president of baseball operations Jeff Luhnow.
Perhaps the Astros were enamored of Fiers enough that they’d have found a way to acquire him from Milwaukee in a different swap. But it’s eminently plausible that had the Wheeler/Flores/Gomez trade between Milwaukee and New York gone through, we’d still have no firm knowledge of the Astros’ nefarious scheme. True, we might’ve had some inkling of wrongdoing; Jeff Passan, after all, reported for Yahoo back in 2017 that two players told him they believed Houston had banged on a trash can to convey signs. Athletics GM David Forst has acknowledged asking the league to investigate the Astros for improper use of technology. But without the smoking gun that was Fiers’ testimony, the league was either unable or unmotivated to bring the scandal to public light.
Peeling the onion back further — imagine if Hader had become every bit as dominant in Houston as he did in Milwaukee. Would the Astros have ever acquired Roberto Osuna to shut down games? Would since-fired assistant GM Brandon Taubman’s belligerent locker room taunting ever have led to his dismissal? Would the Astros have libeled Sports Illustrated’s Stephanie Apstein, calling her report of Taubman’s actions “misleading and completely irresponsible” before accusing her of attempting to “fabricate a story where one does not exist”?
To be clear: the Astros’ scandals reflect the indefensible choices of many individuals associated with the organization, for which they’re fully responsible collectively and individually. But the counter-factual scenarios do at least suggest that these matters might have occurred and/or been brought to light in quite different ways.
The Red Sox
Depending on the previous Dombrowski question I raised, who knows what state the front office would be in? We do know, definitively, that without the Astros’ sign-stealing scandal coming to light last fall, Alex Cora would not have been fired as the team’s manager. Ron Roenicke would still be his bench coach.
All that brings us back to…
The Mets
Carlos Beltran’s debut as the Mets’ manager would’ve been delayed by the COVID-19 pandemic, but it wouldn’t have been outright wiped out of existence by virtue of his own involvement in the Astros scandal. Luis Rojas would be a quality control coach and not a big league manager.
Whether the Mets would’ve been better off in the long run with Gomez and Fulmer in the organization as opposed to Wheeler, Flores and Cespedes is debatable. Cespedes was again their best hitter in 2016 when the club secured a Wild Card postseason berth, but they were unable to advance beyond that initial round, falling to the Giants. The subsequent four-year deal has been a disaster. Cespedes has been extremely productive when on the field, but he of course hasn’t been on the field much. He’s played 119 games through the first three seasons of that deal and agreed to have his contract restructured this winter after the surreal wild boar injury.
Wheeler didn’t pitch again until 2017 and wasn’t very good that year. But his 2018-19 seasons were strong, as he posted a combined 3.65 ERA in 377 1/3 innings with a strikeout per frame and a total of roughly eight wins above replacement. The Mets didn’t make the postseason either year, though, and they’re left with a draft pick to show for their decision to hang onto him.
Flores hit .272/.317/.409 after the trade-that-wasn’t, taking another 1275 plate appearances as a Met before signing with the D-backs in free agency in the 2018-19 offseason and then inking a two-year deal with the Giant this past winter.
Adding Gomez in 2015 probably wouldn’t have cost the Mets the division — they won the NL East by seven games — but it’d have made things much closer. He’d already seen his 2013-14 All-Star form begin to fade, and his production worsened following his eventual trade to Houston. In 2016, Gomez played so poorly with the Astros that they simply released him in mid-August. A late surge with the Rangers served to remind that Gomez was still talented, so perhaps had he never gone to Houston in the first place, he could’ve remained a solid bat — but he was never going to hit at Cespedes’ level.
Fulmer, meanwhile, would still be controlled by the Mets through at least 2022 — if not 2023 (depending on when they promoted him). Virtually every prominent Mets starter has had Tommy John surgery in recent years (all of deGrom, Harvey, Wheeler, Matz and now Syndergaard), and it’s likely that Fulmer would’ve still eventually required his own surgery. But the other injuries that have dogged him and the timing of the procedure can’t be known. Marcus Stroman, acquired last July as an advance means of “replacing” Wheeler once it was clear an extension wasn’t happening, might not be a Met. Anthony Kay, traded in that deal, could be projected in the 2020 rotation.
The exact manner in which rosters would’ve been impacted can be speculated upon ad nauseam, but will never be known to any real degree of confidence. It doesn’t seem like the Mets cost themselves any playoff opportunities, but the effects of that near-trade were extremely broad reaching — and it seems certain that without Fiers being traded to Houston, we’d still be lauding the 2017 Astros as the most dominant team in recent history (at least until the shocking news emerged in some other manner).
Photos courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
acarneglia
I remember watching that game and it’s just one of those weird things that you don’t expect to see happen. And it’s always in the worst way that a player finds out.
Royalsfan12
Speaking of which, I think it’d be really interesting if they videotaped players being told they were traded. The only time I’ve seen it was when Scott Kazmir got traded to Houston.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Why would you want that? Some players develop deep emotional connections with their teammmates, team personnel, city, and fans. Imagine you being recorded every time you were fired and interviewed for a new job for others to watch.
nymetsking
Sounds like someone grew up on Faces of Death.
rightyspecialist
Yeah, now he’s the perfect in San Francisco. A match made in heaven with their Birkenstock wearing, too many cats in the house, overly sensitive fan base. #SOFT
hiflew
I don’t know. I remember watching a game between the Tigers and White Sox. CF Austin Jackson was traded mid-game real close to the trade deadline hour and the GM came up and told the manager that he had to be taken out of the game. Everyone knew he was being traded, I think it was the David Price acquisition by Detroit, but the crowd didn’t know that then. The info didn’t come out until several minutes later. They only knew Jackson was gone. The reaction from the crowd at that moment was so appreciative that it was fairly emotional to watch. Even for my stoic self. I have never really liked the Tigers, or any other AL team for that matter, but after seeing the way their fans treated a player that was good, but not great for their team on his way out, you just had to appreciate them.
tnut10
Interesting article. Would love to see one on the Lucroy deal that fell through as well ultimately landing the Brewers Yelich. If these 2 original trades never happen, Brewers team could look WAY different than currently constructed.
Brixton
Take Hader and Yelich off the Brewers and they’re .500 at best
WildRemote
some may say the same about Lewis brinson and the Marlins
scottn59c
Take top 2 guys off ANY team and you cripple them greaty.
deweybelongsinthehall
If the Astros hadn’t cheated and been so dominant who knows if Cora would have been interviewed by the Sox. I realize the connection was there but it was his “leadership” in 2017 that cemented things.
highandtight
Fun and well thought out article. Mets…Tigers…Brewers….but, wait…there’s more!
Bill
Someone had way too much time on their hands.
dynamite drop in monty
Still more intriguing and thought provoking than anything you’ve produced today.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
misterbill:
With everything going on in the world today, HOW can you take a shot at a piece like this?? Well thought out, well written and something interesting for fans to think about in lieu of games. Gosh, I bet you’re a riot at a party.
DarkSide830
uh, sorry?
claude raymond
Misterbill, just stick to watching tiger king for the 4th time. Reading that long of a story must’ve ruined your busy day
roywhite
We all have too much time on our hands right now!
nymetsking
Don’t we all?
Rangers29
Y’all should do what ifs on if trades didn’t happen. Like what if the Cubs didn’t trade Gleyber for Chapman.
braves25
The Cubs wouldn’t have won the World Series!
Rangers29
Rajai Davis never would’ve hit that home run in game 7 (my favorite moment in recent sports history).
stymeedone
They still lost like they would have without the meaningless HR.
DarkSide830
cant get to the destination without the journey.
Rangers29
Let me ask the commentors this: If the Brewers make this trade, are they winning the National League in 2018 leading to a Red Sox – Brewers 2018 WS?
Rangers29
I’m diving in too deep now, but would the Brewers have gotten Gio Gonzalez in 18′? He was immaculate for them down the stretch, so maybe having Wheeler wouldn’t have helped their playoff chances much…
tedtheodorelogan
Wilmer is having an awesome simulated start to the season. Farhan is a genius.
claude raymond
I haven’t followed. There’re currently more than one simulation going. Are you talking about the baseballreference one?
pmollan
Great read!
DarkSide830
as a Phillies fan ive gotta say thanks to the man. who knows. if we get Wheeler otherwise.
MBDaGod
The dude hasnt thrown a pitch for the Phillies yet.
Metsfan9
You guys completely overpaid Wheeler lol. $118 million for a number 3 starter
DarkSide830
and i wolnt disagree with that as someone who isnt even a big fan of him. but this team really needs SP and beggers cant be choosers.
MoRivera 1999
You’re forgetting what the state of the market was/is. Look at what Cole and Strasburg went for. Well Wheeler was the third best arm on the market. I’d say the Phils did alright. You’re just talking sour grapes because the Mets lost him. Maybe the worst homer on this site.
MoRivera 1999
Sorry Metsfang about that last line. I momentarily mistook you for Metsfan22. HE’s the worst homer, not you.
jd396
You could just, maybe, I don’t know, leave out the smarmy troll bait
Metsfan9
@Mo4ever I see your point but it just doesn’t feel right that Wheeler got paid that much and I’m not 100% sure he will live up to that payroll. Part of my bitterness is also that he had the audacity to rip the Mets after he left
Eatdust666
Teams are desperate for starting pitching lol
papasmurf25
Very interesting and well thought out article
yogineely
This is great! Do more
baji kimran
Sometimes it’s the trade that didn’t happen. After the 1970 season, the Houston Astros tried to work a trade with the Indians that would have sent Bob Watson, Joe Morgan and Jim Wynn to Cleveland with Ray Fosse being the most significant piece coming back to Houston and were turned down. The team this non trade impacts the most is the Cincinnati Reds because Morgan was the MVP of the NL during their two World Series championship years in the 1970’s and the Reds are a much different team without Morgan. The Indians may have been a little better with the aforementioned players coming to Cleveland, but the Indians organization was in disarray those years. Imagine if Cleveland keeps Graig Nettles and Chris Chambliss, leaves Buddy Bell in right field and then add the three players from Houston. That’s a great offense, but still no pitching. Houston eventually did unload Wynn (for Claude Osteen) and Morgan (for Tommy Helms and Lee May) but the return doesn’t equal the talent they gave up.
claude raymond
As a giants fan, where do I start. George Foster to the Reds? Gaylord Perry to Indians for Sam McDowell? There were a few butterfly effects there. Anybody care to add?
talking baseball
This year marks my 58th season rooting for the Giants and the Gaylord Perry trade for Sam McDowell and the Orlando Cepeda trade for Ray Sadiki are the two worst trades in SF history 2nd worst is George Foster to the Reds for ??? I don’t even remember !!
talking baseball
Those trades still tick me off!!!
justanotherposter
So where does one year of Pierzynski for Nathan, Lirano and all time classic name Boof Bonser fit?
claude raymond
Holy crap Just, I forgot about that one. That is easily the worst giants trade. But George Foster for infielder Frank Duffy and some obscure pitcher is a close 2nd. Nathan was a stud after AND before the trade. And Pierzynski was a waste. Team hated him I read
richt
Alex Cora was not employed by the Red Sox in 2015, so what does he have to do with any of this?
Steve Adams
No, but he was fired by them in 2019 because of his role in the cheating scandal — which only came to light because of Mike Fiers — who was likely only in Houston because the Gomez/Wheeler/Wilmer trade fell through.
wordonthestreet
Good answer Steve
Vanilla Good
Look up “butterfly effect.” Not the movie.
richt
What kind of word is “might’ve?”
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/mig…
Vanilla Good
A contraction. You’re learning a lot today!
wordonthestreet
It means might have. Got it now?
Spirit79
There’s a great analysis, I am not fond of the butterfly effect on Houston, Josh Hader, and Mike Fiers. As a Met fan my lens was Met-centric but clearly the most important ramifications of the trade as a whole were to do with the rise and dok of the Astros. But as a Met fan I have to say the article underrated the catalytic effect Céspedes has on us. I don’t think we would’ve won the division by even one game, much less seven, if he had not been on our team, this is true for 2016 as well, although Fulmer would gave htkpedvour rotation, without Ces we don’t make it. In addition, if we had had Fulmer, I’m not sure we ‘discover’ Lugo and Gsellman..
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I don’t know if Cespedes can be held up as the only or primary reason the Mets won the division in 2015. You could also look at the small improvements they made to the roster (Uribe, Johnson, Clippard, Reed), getting d’Arnaud and Wright back for the stretch run, and (perhaps most importantly) the Nats failing to get a good grip on the division and imploding in July and August. On the other hand, I do agree that Cespedes had a major (but possibly less quantifiable) psychological impact on the lineup, and he played a big role in getting them to the WC game in 2016.
Good point on Lugo btw. I don’t think it’s set in stone that he would have gotten the window he did if they had somebody like Fulmer to call on with all of the SP injuries in 2016.
HalosHeavenJJ
Cool stuff. I like it.
The Houston part is very interesting. I think ultimately that story comes out somehow, there were just too many people involved to keep it a secret forever.
And I definitely think they still acquire Osuna. That trade was all about getting a talented player whose price was low because nobody with morals would touch him. As long as Roberto beats his ex girlfriend and becomes available for the right price, Houston still grabs him.
brucenewton
The Mets dodged a bullet with that one.
Moneyballer
Yes and No. Wheeler literally returned almost nothing? I mean did they even get a comp pick for him? I still don’t understand why they held onto him. They had to know.
jd396
“Imagine a world where the Mets weren’t issuing statements to the press about their highest-paid position player being injured in a freak wild boar accident.”
I’m going to wager that is the first time that sentence has ever been uttered.
RogerDorn24
Very interesting, although if Mike Fiers hadn’t blown the whistle, someone else surely would have upon leaving the Astros.
its_happening
Maybe, maybe not. We’d be debating whether or not cheating goes on in baseball of that nature. One half will say yes and the other will say, “you have no proof”. What we do (or should) know about baseball is someone, somewhere is trying to gain an edge. It has been the case since baseball was invented. This will continue until the very last baseball game is played on this earth.
dynamite drop in monty
Perhaps that game has already been played.
its_happening
A new game is starting.
not alkaline
The Tigers traded Austin Jackson in the middle of a game. They brought him backinto the dugout after he took the field. It was odd and sad.
Moneyballer
This was the beginning of his rapid descent into nothingness.
JerryBird
Flores cried and then went free agent. Never bought into the crying thing.
metsfan68
I was at the game. Colon gave up 6 runs and couldn’t get out of the 3rd.also the game where duda hit 3 solo homers for mets only runs….this thing buzzed around the stadium..im arguing with ppl saying ,hes not traded will you ppl stop. If he was traded he wouldn’t be on the field…turned out to be an idiot reporter jumped the gun and let it out before it was even signed off…flores got a standing ovation when they thought it was his last at bat.. he was so messed up that reuben tejada pinch hit for him in the 9th
Moneyballer
In conclusion: the mets were never going to come out on top either way!