It had seemed that Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association were largely seeing eye to eye on alterations to their preexisting agreements to account for the coronavirus pandemic. The sides struck a bargain in late March to account for numerous significant matters of concern, including part-season salaries.
[RELATED: MLB Player Contracts In A Shortened Or Canceled Season]
The unity may not be long-lived. With little prospect for hosting games with fans in attendance in the near term, league and union are now embroiled in a battle over the meaning of the deal they worked out less than one month ago.
Recent reporting indicated that MLB does not believe the recent agreement resolves the matter of player salaries in the event of TV-only games. Today, union chief Tony Clark announced that he holds precisely the opposite position, as Ronald Blum of the Associated Press reports.
The league claims the question of salary in a no-attendance season simply hasn’t been decided, pointing to a clause providing that the sides agree to “discuss in good faith the economic feasibility of playing games in the absence of spectators or at appropriate substitute neutral sites.” By this reading, the entire original agreement related only to the resumption of a typical season.
The player side says the agreement provides for a pro rata reduction of salary to match the number of games played, regardless of whether fans are in the stands. Clark tells Blum: “Players recently reached an agreement with Major League Baseball that outlines economic terms for resumption of play, which included significant salary adjustments and a number of other compromises. That negotiation is over.”
It’s not surprising that the sides would’ve found it hard to line up on this particular point. Playing without paying fans was obviously foreseeable, since it made it into the deal. Surely this didn’t sneak up on anyone.
But it’s frankly bizarre to see such a misalignment of expectations regarding an agreement that was only just negotiated. The actual dispute boils down to the question whether new negotiations over “economic feasibility” would involve a full reconsideration of player salaries or, rather, that such feasibility would take place regarding only other matters, with the salary issue already decided. It seems there are oddities in the positions of both sides, based upon what has been aired publicly.
In the framing of deputy commissioner Dan Halem, the original agreement was one in which the sides “agreed that the season would not commence until normal operations — including fans in our home stadiums — were possible.” If not, there’d be a need to negotiate a whole new “framework to resume play without fans.”
It may well be possible — even preferable — to read the agreement as the league suggests. But in that case, why not make it all the more explicit? We haven’t yet seen the full agreement in its finished form, but the elements that have been reported suggest it’s less than crystal clear in its structure. It also seems strange that the sides would’ve focused so much energy solely on the function of a “normal” season when that seemed so unlikely to occur.
At the same time, on the union side, it’s hard to imagine the potential ambiguity wasn’t spotted. If the MLBPA really believed the agreement ensured full salaries (on a game-by-game basis) regardless whether fans were in attendance, why would it have allowed such an “economic feasibility” proviso to inject doubt?
Could it be that both sides agreed to disagree? Perhaps, but if that was actually the mutual understanding, then why overlay contractual uncertainty onto the preexisting, underlying state of affairs? If instead one side or the other has been caught by surprise by the other’s interpretation, that’s equally hard to understand.
Perhaps we’re still just seeing posturing. But there’s no question the league and union still have significant issues to sort through in advance of a potential resumption of play, especially if (as seems exceedingly likely) it’ll occur without spectators.
This was always going to be complicated. Holding contests without fans will require tricky logistics, added costs and risks, and atypical economic calculations. And there’s already an important background consideration here. Remember that talk of the uniform player contract, which provides the commissioner power to “suspend” contracts “during any national emergency during which Major League Baseball is not played”? That’s clear enough in some instances. But it’s less obvious precisely how the contracts would be re-started. And what happens if the emergency declaration is formally lifted, but baseball doesn’t resume play … or does so on a modified basis? It’s hard to read this clause as providing that major economic interferences would mandate adjustments of already guaranteed salaries, particularly if there’s no formal nationwide emergency declaration.
There was already ample potential for interpretive disputes revolving around that language, the entirety of the Basic Agreement, and the broader bargaining relationship in these unusual circumstances. A mutually satisfactory resolution never seemed straightforward. And now, the presence of an intervening, already-disputed agreement may only add to the potential for friction.
DarkSide830
yep maybe im in the no season camp now
baberuth
Greed takes over again for the greedy players
dynamite drop in monty
Union tripping it’s own shoelaces again.
CursedRangers
Yeah, baseball is in a downward spiral. I’m a massive fan, but this is getting tiresome. Astros debacle, ARod announcing he wants to buy the Mets, and the ongoing saga between the players and the owners. The game has all these horrific soap operas going on. Painful to see.
astros2017
Not to mention Cruz in the OF lol
Too soon?
Bill Harford
Millions are jobless right now, and we are supposed to care about millionaires fighting with billionaires?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
This is a site that reports news about baseball. This news item concerns baseball. There is ZERO wording in the article that says or infers that you should cease caring about your family or the world population in general.
Truly, if entertainment news upsets you, it’s likely wise and healthy on your part to remain distant from sites that deal in entertainment news until this horror is over.
oldoak33
Did you read it?
nymetsking
You cared enough to open the app or go to the site. There isn’t much else newsworthy at this point; not sure what else you’d expect.
Jeff Todd
Whether you care or not is up to you, but I’m honestly not sure what’s to be gained by giving up on baseball or its coverage for an indefinite time period. And I say that as someone who has been watching this pandemic with horror since January.
I’m far more concerned with any number of other things above the game of baseball — let alone the way the owners and top players divvy their spoils. But that’s always the case! This wasn’t a perfect world before the coronavirus. And even in the midst of the crisis, we can and should keep looking to when and how we can emerge.
We have also dedicated coverage to the folks associated with the game that aren’t so lucky. Stadium workers, minor-leaguers, etc. In fact, there’ll be another post on non-player team employees later tonight.
giantsphan12
Amen Jeff Todd!
CursedRangers
Jeff, if the season does start, do you have any insights into how the trade deadline will be handled?
Jeff Todd
None whatsoever! That would have to be negotiated out.
brucebochyisthemarlboroman
Well played sir, well played indeed.
SG
LOL
This was all supposed to be gone in the spring?
Guess he didn’t say which spring?
All kidding and sarcasm aside this is devastating.
nucat72
The MLPA should be ashamed of itself. The NBA has already started reducing salaries. I love baseball but this is too much.
Jeff Todd
This is absolutely not an accurate characterization. The MLBPA agreed to take less than one-twentieth the normal salaries in the event of a fully cancelled season. This dispute is over pay in the event the season is played.
The NBA situation is far different:
hoopsrumors.com/2020/04/nba-nbpa-agree-on-deal-to-…
User 4245925809
I believe that is beside the point Jeff. The MLBPA has shown in recent years it is beyond reason and goes for useless, “me only” things, like those specialty cooks inside each clubhouse i’ve mentioned numerous times they bargained for in the last CBA.
This recent breed of players really has no clue regarding reality of normal people and wants everything regardless.
gleybertorres25
That’s the point of a union
steelerbravenation
This isn’t about their clue regarding reality of normal ppl. This is normal ppl having no clue about their reality. At the end of the day these players are entertainers they are not normal ppl. So they shouldn’t be looked at that way.
How much money are the owners loosing because of broadcast rights ???
I have seen countless athletes donating and never hear about what the owners are doing. All you hear about from owners is how they want the season up and running.
Jeff Todd
It’s not beside the point at all. Whatever one’s perspective, it’s never okay to stray from the truth.
I’m not accusing the commenter above of doing so intentionally, but I don’t believe that was a fair factual appraisal of the situation.
nucat72
The MLPA is the worst. If they can’t see the difference in revenues then stay out a couple of seasons!!
giantsphan12
Wow!
giantsphan12
It may not end up being Covid-19 that prevents the resumption of play after all.
bobtillman
Some years ago I was having drinks with an old buddy name of Billy Shakespeare. He said to me, “Ya know, Tillman, the first thing we do is drown all the lawyers”. Man made sense when he talked (when he was sober, anyway).
But seriously, how could all these Harvard/Yale folks have missed the ambiguity in their “agreement”. Whose running this candy shop anyway????? Granted it’s a unique situation that could not have been reasonably foreseen. But there are intelligent reactions
This wasn’t one of them.
Jeff Todd
Well, that’s the thing: it was foreseen, at the point at which they reached the late-March agreement. It specifically references games without spectators, but in a strangely ambiguous manner.
The sides apparently disagree whether it is ambiguous. I can’t say for sure without seeing the whole written agreement in the flesh (and there’d be a whole lot more to know, beyond that).
But that’s just what is so confounding about this. The issues were complicated enough to begin with. Why would they muddy it further with an agreement like this, which puts a whole new layer of argument over top of what would’ve already been there.
I don’t know, but there must be more to this story that we don’t know. I can’t imagine both sides agreed to disagree in this manner, by sparking an immediate argument over how to interpret this recent emergency agreement.
astros2017
The thing that worries me the most (baseball wise) in all of this isn’t whether or not they get some kind of a season in, I’m fairly confident they will
But if they struggle in this situation to come to an agreement on salaries, that might be a sign the upcoming CBA negotiations will be extremely difficult. And after what our nation is dealing with now, a strike/lockout situation in a couple of years could have extremely negative long term effects on the game
richt
Look at me! I’m an MLBTR writer and I use as many big words as I can!
Jeff Todd
I’m also an attorney, for what it’s worth.
Rex Block
drops mic …
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Dude, just stick with children’s books.
CursedRangers
Seriously? You’re busting the chops of an excellent writer on a FREE website. One that is providing as much relevant content of any site out there – including the Athletic.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
C’mon, man, there were big words…
Darth Alru
I have no reason to say that lockout is not going to happen in December 2021. It will happen, it will not be pleasant and it will be for a long time.
TommySnodgrass
We are living in confusing and frustrating times. When something we love, such as baseball, gets added to this never-ending list of things that are shrouded in confusion, stuck in a frustrating stalemate with no discernible exit, it will only make these times that much harder for us baseball fans.
We all have different opinions and views (We did so before the pandemic as well). Opinions on the continuation of play, opinions on the proper pay for players, views on those players, opinions on the virus and when, where, or whether or not to have a season at all.
This stuff hurts. It’s taken one of the constants of our lives and pushed it to the side. Even in this time of pause for Major League Baseball, any information, any news around the game, can be a slight glimpse of hope for some of us out there.
We as a people disagree. With the internet in our pockets and the ability to say whatever we choose on any platform, disagreeing has kind of, and strangely, become a competitive sport on it’s own; a weird sport with no referees or statistical merit.
But we disagree. A lot. And we always will.
One thing we can always agree on is baseball.
Whether the game continues in the midst of a pandemic, or the long awaited other side of it, I believe that most of us, if not all of us, will be tuning in for the first pitch.
Stay safe.
Iowa Oriole
Not sure I would put a lot of stock in what Manfred’s hatchet man, Halem, has to say about interpreting this agreement.
Jeff Todd
I wouldn’t exactly put stock in what anyone with an interest in a contract says in terms of what the contract actually means. (Except to the extent that such statements may bind the party or provide evidence of intent.) But I don’t think either side is just tossing out idle conjecture, especially in this environment. I’d assume he is stating the position the league intends to defend.
It seems there’s a real disagreement over the meaning of this agreement … or one or both parties are posturing in public about it at an awfully interesting time to be doing that sort of thing. I just cannot get my head around the idea that they were exchanging drafts and negotiating in good faith and then put pen to paper on something where … they had totally opposing viewpoints on what a key aspect of the document actually means.
Possibilities:
a) someone screwed up and whiffed on what was allowed into the document
b) someone is trying to pull one over on someone else with a gotcha (quite possibly tied inextricably with (a) above)
c) they somehow agreed to really tee up this dispute in this manner? but why?
d) they really are just jockeying for public relations reasons, both sides know they ultimately have to negotiate this out with practicalities in mind … in which case I still don’t really understand why they’d have left this ambiguity
66TheNumberOfTheBest
“If the MLBPA really believed the agreement ensured full salaries (on a game-by-game basis) regardless whether fans were in attendance, why would it have allowed such an “economic feasibility” proviso to inject doubt?”
Same reason as usual…Tony Clark is just not good at his job.
Pretty much the only thing he does is complain about the agreements he agrees to…
daniel flores
I have never been a huge fan of the MLBPA. Old Donald did much to hurt the game by protecting cheating players’ rights over the rights of clean players.
BUT! Tony Clark has been a terrible president for the MLBPA. I don’t understand how the players still employ him.
He isn’t just a couple steps behind Fehr, he is a lifetime behind him.
wileycoyote56
Some clubs would have no beef either way, like Miami or Tampa. Not like they get rich on 10,000 fans.
royalsfan77
I think the players are actually right in this situation. All of these plans – Florida, Arizona, Texas, Japan, the moon – are ridiculous on the surface. The fact is the data now indicates that the shut down orders were silly in most parts of the country, and states – even ones fairly hard hit like Colorado – are in a race to re-open. If we’re already seeing that now – and it’s really only been a month since everything was shut down originally – then heavens gracious, we can be playing in real ballparks by late July. This is why the solution is:
80 games
No interleague
40 games against your division (4 x10)
40 games against other teams in your league (4x 10)
If you can ramp it up by July 15th, add two games to the other league games and play 100.
Start no later than August 1. Let 7 teams in from each league, with the top team having a bye. Wild Card rounds are 3 games, division series is 5, LCS 7, world series 7
If a city like New York doesn’t want to have fans or reduce capacity or whatever, fine, but there is zero reason not to play in all but like two of the nation’s ballparks.
sandman12
There are two good reasons: no available treatment for the virus and no vaccine to prevent it.
knuck2
And not enough testing available yet
clrrogers 2
Tony Clark is not a good union head. This seems to be a needless and avoidable confrontation with MLB.
daysauce
Screw the owners. I rather not see any games this year
TheMC
Hey, let’s just get the mediator from Kris Bryant’s grievance to work on this dispute! Then we’ll have a resolution… by 2022.
jorge78
So the fight begins…..
whyhayzee
Jeff,
Thanks for being so responsive on this thread. It’s been driving me crazy to talk about baseball resuming, but I do get where you are coming from. I’m a distance runner and I’ve been training for races that won’t exist. I was getting ready to run a 27 mile trail run in May that likely won’t happen so I reset my sights on a 33 mile trail run in August. I’m still not convinced that will happen either. But I bought new shoes for it to keep the dream alive.
As an actuary and mathematician I’ve been working with mathematical models for over 40 years and I won’t touch this one as far as the return to normal is concerned. With respect to normal, I also sadly believe that we are in fact our worst enemy right now.
The American ideal of putting ourselves first may have done wonders in many of the past crises but not in this one. This one is about doing the right thing for the sake of others, not yourself. My mask keeps someone else from getting sick? I’m wearing it. My staying home helps reduce the deaths of people I don’t even know? I’m staying home.
Anyway, good job reporting and don’t take my rants personally, you’re a good man for putting up with all of us here. All the best, Y – A – Z
Jeff Todd
Thanks. My wife was supposed to be running in a race this week. I’m no racer, but I am an active trail runner and biker … so we are with you! Fortunately, those are some of the activities that are still possible, though keeping distance on narrow trails isn’t easy.
Just like you’re planning for a future race, I think we should all be doing what we can to keep ourselves and our communities active and engaged for the present and future. It’s the same for baseball. I think it’s possible to do that even while respecting the primary importance of public health now and in the future.
whyhayzee
It is a challenge finding trails where you feel safe. I am running solo instead of with my friends. Miss that. I go out first thing along with the dog walkers and it’s pretty safe. Keep on keeping on.
SG
Great advice. I too am a former Boston Marathon runner, over 45 years experience as an Accountant and Enrolled Agent.
All you have said makes good sense and what I’m also concerned about is this article by the IMF:
IMF Warns Of Steepest Recession Since The Great Depression
npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/…
If this proves to be correct we’re going to more to worry about than COVID 19.
NewMexicoLobo
Up until this news I was thinking a season might get done at the spring training sites. Now, not so much. They will not agree on the money.
I understand ownership’s side much more than MLBPA’s on this. If you’re ownership you can’t lose 40 to 45 % of your revenue stream and still pay at the same RATE that you were. Yes, salaries were going to be prorated to the number of games played — if there were fans. But with no fans the payroll amount also has to be reduced from the prorated amount to 40 to 45 % less than said amount.
jd396
Manfred and Clark truly deserve each other.
Simple Simon
No National emergency?
On March 13th,
“NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 201 and 301 of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) and consistent with section 1135 of the Social Security Act (SSA), as amended (42 U.S.C. 1320b-5), do hereby find and proclaim that the COVID-19 outbreak in the United States constitutes a national emergency, beginning March 1, 2020.”
Royalrooter
Too many obstacles to overcome for any kind of a season. The major one is testing. We can’t be giving mlb players tests everyday while our citizenry still aren’t being tested enough. With testing what happens if a player tests positive.? Will they shut down? What if more than one player on a team gets it, is the team done for the year? What about umpires, camera crews, media etc attending these games. Are they being tested? Second obstacle will be logistics. Where they play, quarantine issues, not being able to go home during season etc. Last obstacle is financial. MLB players and owners both have proven to be very greedy over the years and getting them to agree on resumption of play will be a monumental task.
SG
Just yet more insight into why this pandemic will potentially turn into an economic depression.
Rex Block
Sadly, I think we are already in a depression. Certain sectors have not collapsed yet (not going to name them in fear of jinxing things), but if we’re not technically in one, we are certainly on the fast path to it.
Rex Block
This is really pointing the way to no season this year. The contract revenue adjustment from having or not having fans in attendance is a central piece to these negotiations, and to blithely proceed to an agreement without clarity is reckless on someone’s part. It would seem the PU is having buyer’s remorse.
I’m curious what kind of leverage the owners have. If an agreement to resume proceeds with full salaries (based on season length) and no adjustment for fan revenue, can the owners block play? (Would they block play?) In past years they have been able to impose a lockout during CBA strife, preventing players from entering stadiums and team facilities.
But if the Florida / Texas / Arizona plan comes to fruition, using facilities not owned by MLB interests, could the owners sue to stop play? If they did, that would be among the most bizarre spectacles in modern sport.
Patrick OKennedy
If the players agree to tie salaries to revenues for a pro rated, no fans season, will the owners agree to increase the minimum salary and increase the luxury tax threshold at the same rate as revenues increase?
Didn’t think so.
Manfred holds the ultimate final say in this because he can cancel the season and nothing the players could do about it. I am not convinced that teams would actually lose money if they didn’t have fans and concessions, and had to pay pro rated salaries.
daniel flores
Most teams still have debt payments, front office staff, and insurance payments to make. I would imagine that if no season happened, they would all show a loss this year.
Just my own opinion.
nowheretogobutup
I called a no season five weeks ago, its not going to happen, not in July not in August or Sept. I say no play no pay the players. That’s about as simple as it gets. Playing baseball games with no fans is just as crazy. 2021 here we come. I also feel a lost season should not count towards player service time, that’s plain insane. That’s my thoughts and I’m sticking by it.