Red Sox right-hander Ryan Weber entered camp hoping to win a battle for the fifth and final spot in the rotation, but manager Ron Roenicke has suggested that the 29-year-old now looks like the team’s fourth starter, per the Boston Herald’s Jason Mastrodonato.
Weber inked a minor league deal with the Red Sox in December 2018 and found himself in the big leagues as early as May, when now-former Sox lefty David Price hit the injured list. He spent the rest of the season bouncing between Pawtucket and Boston, ultimately appearing in 18 games and pitching to a 5.08 ERA in 40 2/3 innings. That’s not a particularly appealing number, of course, but Weber’s 4.20 FIP was much more palatable, and there’s reason to think he could be more effective yet.
Among the 436 pitchers who had 100 balls put into play against them in 2019, Weber posted the 17th-lowest hard-hit rate, per Statcast. Weber exhibited good control both in Triple-A and the Majors, and over the course of his pro career, his sinker has generated above-average ground-ball rates each year. The Boston Globe’s Peter Abraham wrote earlier in the month that the Sox were intrigued by the small handful of cutters that Weber threw last season and believe the pitch could develop into a quality offering with more use. To his credit, Weber also has an excellent Triple-A track record, having pitched to a 2.85 ERA in 360 1/3 innings there.
Even if Weber does surface as a serviceable rotation piece, Boston’s collection of starters is shaky following yesterday’s announcement that Chris Sale will miss the 2020 season due to Tommy John surgery. Eduardo Rodriguez turned in the finest season of his career in 2019 and should be a solid leader of the group. But right-hander Nathan Eovaldi hasn’t made more than 21 starts in a season since 2015, and lefty Martin Perez is fresh off a second consecutive sub-par season. The fifth spot in the rotation could go to an opener, although Mastrodonato and other reporters that spoke with Roenicke yesterday noted that he also mentioned lefty Brian Johnson as a possibility.
Sox fans may hope that righty Collin McHugh, signed as a free agent earlier this month, could eventually emerge as an option. However, The Athletic’s Chad Jennings wrote yesterday (subscription required) that McHugh still hasn’t begun a throwing program as he works back from elbow troubles of his own. He’s reportedly been cleared to do so, although workouts for all players are in limbo to some extent, given the suspended state of play. Perhaps by the time the season eventually gets underway, he’ll be built up, but it’s difficult to pencil him in even as a tentative rotation piece for the time being.
The Red Sox’ lineup should still be solid even without Mookie Betts, anchored by a formidable trio of Rafael Devers, Xander Bogaerts and J.D. Martinez. But between Sale’s surgery, the trade of Price and the lack of a steady addition in the offseason, Boston’s starting staff looks like it’ll be a patchwork unit.
badco44
Haha… Sale goes under the knife and the options are few. Do you think?
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
No big deal. We all knew this was a lame duck season. They ran it back again same squad in 2019 and it didn’t work. Now it’s time for reset/tax relief. Gangbusters again next offseason filling holes and spending money.
We could see this happening in the fall and winter and it was confirmed with the trade of mookie and price.
30 Parks
… brutal rotation.
all in the suit that you wear
Somewhere Hector Velazquez is having a good laugh.
DarkSide830
joke’s on him though, they exiled him to Baltimore
DarkSide830
should’ve kepy Velazquez
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Why? Seen enough of him.
DarkSide830
and you havent seen enough of Weber to know he’s worse? boy you’re in for a treat.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
What do you know that the Red Sox don’t? They kept Weber and dumped Velazquez. Why?
chickensgotmyhens
who is that?
VampWeekAtBern
There’s a link in the article followed by a few paragraphs about him. Google is a pretty good resource for finding out more info, too.
hiflew
Now if only the Red Sox rotation had something to do .
pinballwizard1969
Wow that’s one ugly rotation and without an influx of talent to the rotation for the 2021 season it don’t look much better. The offense could take another hit for the 2021 season if J.D. Martinez exercises his opt-out at the end of the 2020 season, whenever that is.
4WSsince04
Doubt JD leaves with the Red Sox due to pay him $19.35 million in 2021 and 2022. He will not get that anywhere else. That is why he is still with the Red Sox.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
If JD has a great year this year he might. I’d say it’s 50-50 still.
nasrd
No way any team pays him that!
Even with a monster year
pinballwizard1969
I would disagree with a decent year in 2020 whenever it starts I think there is better than a 50/50 chance he does opt-out.. As a FA in 2021 he should be able to get more than a 2 year deal and over $40M+/ that would have been remaining on his current deal- He’ll just be 33 yrs old for most of the 2021 season a 3 yr $50M deal is not out of the question. I have to think also factoring in his decision will be the state of the Red Sox team in 2021 and as it looks now they don’t look like they are going to be very good in 2021 with or without Martinez.
4WSsince04
Look at what other DHs have been getting. MLB teams historically have not valued the position. JD’s defense is terrible and he is looked as a DH. JD will finish his five years in Boston, unless CBT is totally scrapped.
PiratesFan1981
You want ugly rotation, Pittsburgh Pirates probably has the ugliest rotation in MLB
hammer_time24
Baltimore is on line 1.
oldmansteve
Archer has a history of being good, and his second half was pretty darn good last year. Mitch Keller’s peripheral numbers were excellent and he had a historically unlucky few months in his debut. Given his stuff, spin rates, and prospect pedigree, there’s a lot to be excited for. Musgrove has been a solid pitcher and has room to get better.
The Orioles, Royals, Red Sox, Tigers, and Marlins are worse.
DarkSide830
talking up Archer’s history. lol
nasrd
Archer has been terrible. So tired of hearing excuses for this guy. I thought he was average at best before Bucs gave up 3 solid prospects. 2 have become solid major leaguers.
KingRyan227
Look at Baltimore’s rotation lmao
Blackhawk770
Red Sox praying 2020 season is cancelled.
Occams_hairbrush
Oh it will be.
brandons-3
Not convinced. A lot can change between now and April 2021.
SoCalAngelsFan75
Exactly. There isn’t going to be a season this year. Unless as a society we decide to get back to normal life and willing to sacrifice a bunch of lives just to have sports.
DarkSide830
its not even the end of March dude. the season lasts though September. theres plenty of time to get at least some games done.
4WSsince04
MLB thinks they will play 100 games. I think the only way they do that is with lots of doubleheaders. Realistically they may play 60 to 80 games if that and may need to increase the 26 man roster due to pitchers not being stretched out. The last MLB needs is more injuries to starting pitchers.
hiflew
Is there really any proof that pitchers not being stretched out leads to more injuries? Or is this just someone’s theory that everyone has started taking as dogma? It’s not like there have been fewer pitcher injuries in the past few years. I’m not claiming that there is no correlation at all, but I really think it is a bit overblown. Personally, I believe that pitchers overthrowing in an effort to get a few more MPH is what is leading to more injuries. But I’m no expert, just an opinion.
bobtillman
Where is Big Sexy??????
thorshair
Can we stop acting like there is going to be a season this year
DarkSide830
can we stop acting like there is any chance there wolnt be?
oldmansteve
I would say there is a 50/50 shot of there being a season.
DarkSide830
money talks, and less games tends to be more money per game. less opportunities means more clamouring for seats. sure you can shave part of the season off and not lose huge profits, but the more you remove, the loss grows exponentially. i feel like if there’s even a chance for a few games with fans in the stands, even exposition games, they will happen. again, September is a long way away. after all, its only just the first day of spring.
nasrd
Agree. Partial season better than no baseball at all
extreme113
Thanks a lot DD!
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Amen. Brought a championship to Boston. Love it. Isn’t that the goal? Now the challenge is to do it again. Who doesn’t love a challenge? Especially when sacrifices were made to the farm. I’m sure Bloom loves this uphill battle that separates men from other men 🙂
joeyreo13
Hehehe Going to love it when the Yankees face the Redsoxs this year.
AL34
Who is going to pitch for the Yankees after their number one starter?
MoRivera 1999
Paxton, Tanaka, Happ, Montgomery. German steps in there at #2 or #3 when he gets back and the whole thing looks good. Not as good as it would with Sevy, but still pretty good. I think Happ is a wild card. Is he the Happ of ’18 (ERA+ 157) or ’19 (ERA+ 90)? A lot of people say he was hugely distracted by the upcoming birth of his baby last year. He did pitch phenomenally well after the birth of the baby in August (sub-2.00 ERA in September).
AL34
Tanaka is about 4 seasons of need for TJ Surgery. Good luck with the back surgery on Paxton. It’s tough the first year and I’m a soldier in great shape. Took me 6 months and I was not a pitcher. You do not have enough pitching
Poundsy24
Ryan Weber is basically a DIII ball player that walked on to a decent DI school and lucked his way into a perfect situation for playing time. I reallyyyyy hope he turns some heads even if even I can hit his 88 mph fastball… humble brags, I dabble.
VegasSDfan
Weber is a 6th reliever. Good luck with your season, if there is one.
You could upgrade by trading for any of the Padres AAA options, if you have anyone to trade.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
We had mookie available. But you couldn’t afford the asking “price.”
4WSsince04
At least Ryan Weber doesn’t need Tommy John surgery.
AL34
I said it before Sale went down when he had “Pneumonia” that this team was dead on arrival!!
It did not get better with the throwaways that they are sticking in as the number 3,4,5 !
I blame Bloom because he had to have known Sale’s elbow was in danger yet he traded away a number 2 pitcher and a top MVP Player in Betts and did not get a pitcher. Bloom is a Second Rate Baseball City GM whose team was low budget. Boston is a major market baseball ⚾️ city. Going to be a long couple of years.
ellisburks
Yeah cause nobody who worked in small market Tampa Bay and went onto a big market team has had any success…sorry some guy named Andrew Friedman wants to talk to you.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Does Friedman have a World Series ring?
Honestly, he did great with the Rays, but it’s a whole different ballgame when you have a market like the Dodgers or Red Sox.
Pun intended.
DarkSide830
back to back pennants, a perennial 100 team, and insane depth both in the Majors and the Minors is absolutely success. not his fault Roberts cant close the deal and Alex Cora is a snake.
User 4245925809
WS ring? U mean the runner up, smaller ones that do NOT say World Champion???
4WSsince04
The Dodgers look like they will get a ring this year if there is a season.
mikebtt
Red Sox fan here. No expectations for Sox, so I’m routing for the Dodgers. They were cheated (at least once) out of the title. Mookie MVP, Price Cy Young candidate.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Wrong. Going to be ONE long year. You know Red Sox history is to go after free agents and pay up, right? They go for the big guys. Not always right but they go for it. Next winter it’s gangbusters. Fill in some holes, couple All Star guys. Back in the saddle baby.
MoRivera 1999
How much do they have coming off the books after this season, including Price and Betts? How far below the luxury line ($208MM) will they be?
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
I’m thinking they are okay spending and going over the luxury-tax now that they are not a “repeat offender,” where the cost is exponentially atrocious. I don’t think they want to stay at/below 208 in 2021 also.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
But that’s not what you asked. It was a long way of saying I don’t know the answer LOL.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
JD Martinez pretty much said he will test the market for 2021, so there is a good chance he will be gone.
4WSsince04
RS do not need to stay under $208 million next, because of the rest.
mikebtt
J.D. can go. Free up more $ so they can make Mookie a 4 Million. offer. Welcome home Mookie.
madmc44
I think there are 3 or 4 former Tampa Exec’s heading Baseball Operations as I write
Not as many as the great Bill Belichick but getting close.
Occams_hairbrush
McHugh will probably be healthy when the season starts next April.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I just wish the Red Sox front office staff would be honest with us. They keep saying we are going to be competitive and compete in 2020. Whether or not we have Sale, there’s no way we compete. It’s a bridge year, tell it like it is.
AL34
The Red Sox front office has always been dishonest like they were with Pedro and Sale for the last 3 years
DarkSide830
you can take a step back and still compete. i mean, the Marlins always say they’re trying to compete, but rarely ever are. talk is talk. I wouldn’t get riled up over words when the plan is sound.
Doug S.
So it’ll be Erod and the Openers. Sounds like an 80’s wedding cover band…
4WSsince04
The Red Sox have 4 World Series wins since 04, WS reload WS reload WS reload….each team to win had significantly different rosters. Why would there next WS title be any different? Henry and company have been the most successful ownership group this century. No team wins every year and if they did you all would have anything to complain about.
yesgeo
sales was a stupid extension… dd was on dumb drugs when he approved that… fragile pitcher in his 30s .. STUPID IDEA.. those guys need 2 year contracts to balance the risks.. he probably is done as any kind of ACE.. now be a 4th guy in any rotation ..
what is wrong with owners .. are they just stupid people in wrong business ?
yesgeo
woow guys…sales was a stupid extension… dd was on dumb drugs when he approved that… fragile pitcher in his 30s .. STUPID IDEA.. those guys need 2 year contracts to balance the risks.. he probably is done as any kind of ACE.. now be a 4th guy in any rotation ..
what is wrong with owners .. are they just stupid people in wrong business ?
best way for pitching I’d to home grow it .. smart drafts and good minor league coaching